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WW 2 Model Maker-Sam Alderlieste-A Guide to Tracked British 17 Pounders This was the first attempt to get the 17 pounder gun on tracks, but due production delays the A30 was surpassed by the M4 Sherman 17 pdr variants, which ironically was designed as an ‘back-up’ would the A30 fail to meet it’s potential. In march 1941 the 17 Pounder gun, follow up for the 6 Pounder gun, was first put into production. Designed from the start as an high-velocity anti tank gun, during the war the 17 Pounder proved itself to be an outstanding and reliable weapon. www.ww2modelmaker.com /articlepub/SAtrckpdrs.htm

AT Gun: 17 Pounder Mk 1 Stats : AKA: 17 Pounder; 4 crew; Weight: 3.1 tonne; Rate-of-Fire: 20.0RPM; Gun Elevation: -6 to 16° Gun Traverse: 60° www.poeland.com /tanks/c/at17Pdr1.shtml

The battle of Kapyong, April 1951 [Australian War Memorial] For protection of his headquarters Ferguson had a section of medium machine-guns, two 17 pounder anti-tank guns, the Assault Pioneer Platoon and some regimental police. The desperate battle of the 29th Brigade on the Imjin River, together with the action at Kapyong, had depleted the stock of 25 pounder ammunition available forward of the airhead at Seoul. More importantly Ferguson faced the prospect of having to control two battles, one involving the four companies and the other involving his own, immediate headquarters area, located directly beside the main enemy approach route and lightly defended. www.awm.gov.au /encyclopedia/kapyong/doc.htm

Australian Morris CS11/30 2 Pounder Anti-Tank Portee by Mick Bell (Scratchbuilt 1/76) It might be possible to used the radiator from a kit of a Morris truck [Airfix Quad, Bofors Tractor, or Matchbox 17 Pounder Tractor], but I didn’t have one to spare so had to scratch build the radiator from plasticard. These references seemed to cover the truck adequately, next I needed to find out whether there was a model of the 2 Pounder available [I didn’t relish scratch building it] and what might be used as the basis of the truck. The Aussies removed the sides from the Morris’ cargo body and fitted stout timber baulks across the flatbed to mount the 2 Pounder, still on its field carriage. anzacsteel.hobbyvista.com /Military%20Models/morrisporteemb_1.htm

OldGreyEagle posts Pounder, the last two posts have been an Epiphany to me. First off, Outdoor Thinker is a member of the crew which I am delighted to be allowed to be part of. Pounder, You need to do a better job that dismissing OT's thought on LNT as providing a clean place to put expensive gear. Pounder, I am not sure I remember history very well, but didnt Ollie North flat out lie to congress and his assitant Fawn Hall shred documents proving his perjury? www.scouter.com /forums/viewAllPosts.asp?userID=171&p=78

SHERMAN M4 AND M4A3 17 POUNDER IN US SERVICE NEW INFORMATION What if the only available 75mm M4A1's (we know that 76mm T23 turret tanks were excluded as the turret layout precluded the installation of the 17 Pounder gun, within the time-scales and industrial capability available in 1944-45) only had electric traverse and or M34 mantlets. This suggests that the water/glycol bins could be adapted to take the 17 Pounder ammunition, despite its larger size, compared to the 75mm rounds. This letter stated very clearly that 17 Pounder conversions must be on a petrol engined Sherman. freespace.virgin.net /shermanic.firefly/usnew.html

Artillery 17 Pounder towed by Ford #8 gun tractor. Good detail on the operational end of 17 pounder. The close-up shows the image has been contoured to remove the background. www.oldcmp.net /artynew.html

Sprue Brothers Models / www.spruebrothers.com 1:35 ADV Azimut Sherman Firefly 17 Pounder Turret #35101 Sprue Brothers Models / www.spruebrothers.com 1:35 ADV Azimut Sherman Firefly 17 Pounder Turret #35101 1:35 ADV Azimut Sherman Firefly 17 Pounder Turret #35101 spruebrothers.zoovy.com /product/ADV35101

British Tanks of World War II The tank shown has a 6 pounder gun, but eventually a 75 mm gun, then a 17 pounder was used and reliability problems were solved. The British used the 17 pounder in their Firefly version. A Christie suspension provided a good ride and could travel at up to 40 mph, but early models were underarmed with the 2 pounder gun which was eventually replaced by the 6 pounder. members.cox.net /johnahamill/armorbrit.html

Col JB Walton's Official Report Miller, Lieutenants McElroy and Hero, with four 12 pounder Napoleons, to the right of Captain Squires; to the right of Captain Miller, across a ravine and in an orchard in front of General D. Jones' position, were placed the second company, Capt. J. Owen, Galbraith, and Brown, with two 3-inch rifles and two 10-pounder Parrott guns, on the right of the turnpike running through the center of and to the front of the town; the third company, Capt. M. COLONEL : I have the honor to submit the following report of the part taken by the several batteries composing the battalion Washington Artillery under my command in the engagements before Sharpsburg, Md., on September 16 and 17 last: aotw.org /exhibit.php?exhibit_id=110

October 1999 Catfish Reports I went back out Wednesday morning but fished a little closer in, about a half mile out off the time shares (12 feet deep) and caught a 17 pounder and another 8 pounder. I was fishing in 16 feet of water and caught the fish on shrimp as well as an 8 pounder also on shrimp. They are getting a few off of the Redbud Community Pier using mackerel including a 20 pounder. www.catfished.com /octc.html

news.html 01-22-02 Sane defeats Myrtle Beach's 171 pounder via decison. 12-11-01 Sane defeats Carolina Forrest's 171 pounder via pinfall in the 2nd round. 02-18-02~ Sane defeats White Knole's 171 pounder via decision. justinsane.4mg.com /news.html

The Tiger Tank Restoration project - History of Tiger Tanks. Weapons tested included the 6 pounder, 17 pounder and American 75mm, the Sherman gun. The Tiger had been damaged in action before it was subjected to the firing trials and these cracks, on the left, were created by 25 pounder guns firing high explosive. In the summer of 1943 British forces in Tunisia conducted a series of firing trials against a turretless Tiger hull. www.tiger-tank.com /secure/history11.htm

Missing Links Accurate Armour Ordnance QF 17pdr Review The British 17 pounder gun has been acknowledged by the majority of millitary historians as the most effective 17 pdr carriage was not ready for production yet, an expedient method was found to mount the new gun on a 25 officially known as the 17 pdr mk2, or "Pheasant", serving until the standard production mount was available. www.missing-lynx.com /reviews/britain/aa-g01.htm

Northerners abroad He trained Canadian troops to use various weapons common to a light infantry unit – i.e hand grenades, 4.2-inch mortars, Vickers.303 machine guns, rifles, hand pistols as well as the 17 pounder anti-tank gun. He apprenticed to a ships Master of a collier out of North Shields and as a result earned his Master's Certificate in 1811 at the age of 17. Presumably the same Edward who on 31 May 1792 married Ann PYLE. www.northpennineancestors.co.uk /Northerners.htm

September 2000 Catfish Reports Bob Higgins of Limit Out Bait and Tackle in Clearlake Oaks (707-998-1006) reports a few large channel cats being taken with live crawdads near Rattlesnake Island and a few including a 17 pounder caught at the mouth of the Clearlake Oaks Keys with anchovies. The majority of fish have been running from around 8 to 12 pounds with an occasional 16 or 17 pounder. This is going to be a fairly short catfish report as I couldn't get any information from the Clearlake area. www.catfished.com /sep2c.html

Bill Roecker's Southern California and Baja Long Range Fishing Report, December 17, 2003, The Fish Sniffer Online Bill Roecker's Southern California and Baja Long Range Fishing Report, December 17, 2003, The Fish Sniffer Online Markus Medak showed his group of 19 Royal Star anglers a good time at Guadalupe Island on a five-day trip that returned December 13. www.imhooked.com /roecker/scb121703.html

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History Page With the formation of the Citizen's Military Forces in 1948, 6th Anti-Tank Regiment, R.A.A was raised in 6 M.D, equipped with Q.F 17 pounder anti-tank guns. In 1974, the regiment bid farewell to its 25 pounder guns and was re-equipped with the 105 mm M2A2 howitzer. The unit was originally raised as a field artillery unit, equipped with two B.L 12 pounder Howitzer's and two 32 pounder guns on field carriages, but from 1887 it began providing detachments for the guns in the Alexandra and Kangaroo Bluff batteries. www.key.org.au /raaat/history_page.htm

Battlefront.com Discussion Forums: 17 Pounder APDS vs. Panther Glacis If 17 pounder APDS penetrated Panther glacis on half the hits at 700 yards, this may approximate the ballistic limit and the armor quality vs. APDS would be (245/268), or 0.91 when penetration = effective armor resistance. During August of 1944, the U.S. conducted firing tests on 3 captured Panthers using a variety of guns and ammo, including 17 pounder APDS. This analysis suggests that 17 pounder APDS can be modelled with U.S. firing test HVAP slope effects, which exceed CM figures. www.battlefront.com /discuss/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=16;t=014747

Arnhem; The Airborne Battle Online Message Forum: reprint "The use of the 17 pounder A/T tank gun during the Battle of Arnhem", Philip,ABRG at 12/10/2001 09:39 Arnhem; The Airborne Battle Online Message Forum: reprint "The use of the 17 pounder A/T tank gun during the Battle of Arnhem", Philip,ABRG at 12/10/2001 09:39 reprint "The use of the 17 pounder A/T tank gun during the Battle of Arnhem" Written by Philip,ABRG at 10 Dec 2001 09:39:25: f16.parsimony.net /forum28518/messages/1095.htm

ICHTHY.COM - San Francisco Bay Area Fishing Without a doubt one of the shortest, fattest 5 pounders I've ever caught. Looked like a three pounder to me when I caught it. If this fish doesn't look 4 pounds to you, then that's two of us. www.ichthy.com /reports.shtml?photos

NameTraq Last Name: Pounder The 6-0, 171 pounder was selected by the Penguins in the fifth round (136th overall) of the 2002 Entry Draft. The 6-1, 215 pounder was waived by the Packers on June 17, 2003 and was out of football during the 2003 season. They only paid 8 cents less to buy the large value meal (Quarter Pounder with cheese, large fries and large Coke at 1,380 calories) than to buy the Quarter... nametraq.org /Jan04/P/Pounder.shtml

Trail Pounder posts Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 (This message has been edited by Trail Pounder) Stupid would be wasting another second bantering with this troll on the internet. www.scouter.com /forums/viewAllPosts.asp?userID=26270&p=3

Sherman Register - Canada Geoff Winnington-Ball of Maple Leaf Up found some some background information on the M10 17 pdr SP Gun in Korea: Wording on bar above is 'Z CDN MC GP' as far as I can see, and its serial where visible is '89.167' " web.inter.nl.net /users/spoelstra/g104/cdn.htm

Dragon - Sherman Firefly: WW II Amercian Tank with a British Punch At step 17, the detail shows the assembly of the antenna guard and requires some delicate bending and gluing to piece B-15, the antenna base. In instruction step 10, the rear taillight guards are to be assembled using the plastic pieces (H-23 and H-24); however, I elected to use the optional photo etch parts. All I can say is to just use patience here. www.squadron.com /old/firefly/fireflyreview.htm

Buggs Island Team Tournaments Jimmy and Mark’s catch was anchored with the tournament lunker, a 5.88 pounder. Tourney runner-ups were the team of Daryl and Jimmie Foster of Danville, VA. Daryl and Jimmie’s 4 fish totaled 11.94 lbs and included the tournament lunker, a 5.02 pounder. Bud and Richard also had the #2 lunker, a 5.32 pounder, which made their payday worth $210. www.kerrlake.info /fishing/biteams.htm

Heavy Tanks of the British Army in World War II The tank weighed 39 tons, had a top speed of 17 miles (27 kilometres) per hour, and had a range of 90 miles. It was armed with either a 6-pounder or a 75-millimetre gun. It was served by a crew of five and mounted two 7.92-millimetre machine guns in addition to its main gun. www.1stairborne.com /armourheavy.html

Liberation of the Low Countries Fireflies were Shermans in which the very high velocity 17 pounder gun was substituted for the standard Sherman's relatively ineffective 75 mm gun. This kind of tank was 'up-gunned' with a more poweful cannon to make it more of a match for the German 'Panther' and 'Tiger' tanks. Installation also required rearward extension of the turret in the form of a 'box' compartment. www.nt.net /~toby/low.html

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