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	7Q5
		7Q5 is the designation for a parchment fragment discovered in Cave 7 of the Qumran community.
		The assertion is that the previously unidentified 7Q5 is actually a fragment of the Gospel of Mark, chapter 6 verse 52-53.
		It is hard to overstate the significance that a positive identification of 7Q5 as Mark 6:52-53 would have on biblical literary criticism, which may explain the reticence of many to hang so much on such a small thread.
	publicliterature.org /en/wikipedia/7/7q/7q5.html (402 words)

	7Q5 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Among the Dead Sea scrolls, 7Q5 is the designation for a papyrus fragment discovered in Cave 7 of the Qumran community.
		It is hard to overstate the significance that a positive identification of 7Q5 as Mark 6:52-53 would have on biblical literary criticism, which may explain both the motivation to see the Gospel of Mark in the fragment and the reticence of many to hang so much on such a small thread.
		Most significantly in theological terms, according to Christian apologists such an identification would make a strong argument for the assertion that the miraculous, divine, and messianic attributions to Jesus were very early traditions in the Christian church.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/7Q5 (760 words)

	Rezensionen7Q5Buch
		Part of the problem concerns a fourth matter, namely, the necessity for proponents of the identification of 7Q5 with Mark 6:52-53 to justify the absence of epi ten gen so that the surviving and emended letters of 7Q5 can be made to correspond approximately with the gospel text.
		It is clear that the strongest support for identifying 7Q5 with a part of Mark 6 has come from a strand of German NT scholarship which has a markedly historicist tendency, as Enste notes (p.
		After a description of 7Q5, Enste presents a survey of research on the text, takes up the relevance of 7Q5 for dating Mark's Gospel, examines the arguments for and against identifying 7Q5 and Mark 6:52-53, and concludes that 7Q5 = Mark 6:52-53 is not only not proved, but also highly unlikely.
	www.stefan-enste.de /Rezensionen7Q5.htm (1706 words)

	Displaced Fragments
		Anyone familiar with the controversy concerning the identification of fragment 7Q5 is aware of the highly detailed arguments over certain letters that may or may not appear on the papyrus.
		A secondary aim is novel: to attempt to demonstrate that 7Q5 is physically comprised of at least two distinct papyrus scraps; and that a portion of one is partly covered by another.
		I am mainly concerned with those uncertain portions of 7Q5 which are to the right of the large upper hole and extend vertically along the upper three lines of text.
	www.breadofangels.com /7q5/key.html (2655 words)

	7Q5 :: ACI Digital (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		Hasta el 7Q5, todos los papiros neotestamentarios que se conservan eran fragmentos de códice, no de papiro.
		En 1972, por casualidad, dejó caer su atención sobre el 7Q5, que los expertos suponían que podía tratarse del fragmento veterotestamentario de una genealogía, ya que el trozo permitía leer claramente "gene", que se suponía pertenecía a la palabra "egenesen", termino griego para "engendró".
		Sin embargo, uno de los mas duros críticos de O´Callaghan, el recientemente fallecido crítico textual alemán Kurt Aland, había rechazado la identificación del 7Q5 en tres artículos sucesivos, uno de los cuales recurría a una supuesta comprobación por computadora, que fue invalidada por errores de procedimientos detectados rápidamente por expertos en informática.
	www.aciprensa.com /reportajes/7q5.htm (2289 words)

	7Q5 - Ein interessantes Detail
		Line 2 is very important in the discussion whether Qumran papyrus-fragment 7Q5 is part of the gospel of Mark or not.
		To prove the supposed Ny, fragment 7Q5 was examined microscopical in Israel in the year 1992.
		Only the discussion whether 7Q5 is a part of the gospel of Mark made some people question this Iota.
	www.stefan-enste.de /7Q5DetailEngl.htm (384 words)

	APPENDIX B
		The identification of 7Q5 with Mark 6:52-53 should not be rejected on such grounds.
		Once 7Q5 is firmly identified with Mark 6:52-53 then the probability that 7Q4 is to be identified with 1 Tim.
		It seems to me that 7Q5, 4, and 8 may be viewed as relevant to the thesis of this book in the following sense.
	www.revisedstandard.net /text/WNP/ap_b.html (1834 words)

	7Q5
		Among the Dead Sea scrolls, 7Q5 is the designation for a parchment fragment discovered in Cave 7 of the Qumran community.
		Finally, and most significant theologically, it would make a strong argument for the assertion that the miraculous, Divine, and Messianic attributions to Jesus were very early traditions in the Christian church.
		It is licensed under the GNU free documentation license.
	www.ufaqs.com /wiki/en/7q/7Q5.htm (523 words)

	Greek Qumran Fragment 7Q5: Possibilities and Impossibilities
		As an aftermath of the symposium, fragment 7Q5 was analyzed in the forensic laboratory of the Department of Investigations at the Israel National Police in Jerusalem.
		Qumran Fragment 7Q5 and its Significance for New Testament Studies (as in n.8).
		The Qumran Papyrus 7Q5 And Its Significance for New Testament Studies (Exeter-Carlisle 1992) 40-41, n.31.
	members.aol.com /egweimi/7q5.htm (1727 words)

	7Q5: Un papiro revolucionario
		O'Callaghan recordó que la identificación, del 7Q5 entra más en el campo de la papirología -al tratarse de un residuo físico de un papiro que en el de la exégesis bíblica, aunque su identificación tenga repercusiones en ese campo.
		Respecto a la afirmación de que el 7Q5 correspondería al apócrifo llamado `Libro de Henoc', O'Callaghan señala que esta hipótesis "es hoy insostenible papirológica y matemáticamente".
		Aun cuando su trabajo sobre el 7Q5 no es un intento apologético, aún así tiene consecuencias importantes para el anuncio de la fe en nuestro tiempo, sobre todo en lo que se refiere a la historicidad de los Evangelios.
	www.statveritas.com.ar /Varios/7q5-01.htm (4163 words)

	C.A.R.E. Ministries of Winnipeg - The Manuscript Evidence for the New Testament
		The identification of 7Q5 as Markan is being disputed purely on philosophical grounds.
		In 7Q5, the next letter is a "tau." Some critics state that this exchange of "tau" for "delta" is "unparalleled." This is not so.
		Specifically, 7Q5 may be considered to be a fragment of Mark 6:52-53 if only we could account for the phrase "epi ten gen"(onto the land).
	www.carewinnipeg.com /ManuscriptEvidencefortheNT.html (3715 words)

	PTET - 7Q5: Is it 'Mark' and does it matter?
		Its "decorated" style of handwriting suggest a date between 50 BCE and 50 CE It should be made clear from the outset that the identification of 7Q5 with "Mark" appears to have been thoroughly discredited.
		José O’Callaghan, S.J., a Spanish papyrologist, declared that the words on 7Q5 were from the Gospel of St. Mark: 6:52-53.
		Threaded through all of his arguments is his view that a portion of Mark 6:52-53 is among the 18 Greek fragments found in Qumran cave seven.
	ptet.dubar.com /bible-7q5.html (2184 words)

	"7Q5 = Mark 6:52-53" \| Dead Sea Scrolls \| Ancient Revelations
		The first published photograph of 7Q5 was part of the original DJD III edition (cf.
		The fragment in question is called 7Q5 and was found in Cave 7 among the Qumran caves.
		Such spaces were often used by ancient scribes to indicate a new "paragraph" or break in the narrative, and sure enough, Mark 6:53 begins with "And." Furthermore, 7Q5 also preserves the last letter of the last word before this space, an eta.
	www.preteristarchive.com /JewishSources/dead_sea_scrolls/7Q5_mark.html (4713 words)

	7Q5: Cambiar la pregunta- Monografias.com
		Pero si el papiro 7Q5 corresponde realmente a un texto de Marcos tendría que haber sido escrito hacia la década del 50 del primer siglo, pues viene escrito en el llamado estilo ornamentado herodiano que se usó precisamente hasta el año 50.
		La tendencia de muchos estudiosos contrarios a la identificación de O’Callaghan es, después de exponer algunos argumentos que consideran indemostrables, concluir con decir que la discusión está cerrada, como si con la indiferencia pudiesen solucionar un tema que evidentemente se les salió de la mano.
		La reacción negativa frente al 7Q5 como texto de Marcos no es más que el temor a perder lo que se ha construido casi como un dogma de fe.
	www.monografias.com /trabajos21/cambiar-pregunta/cambiar-pregunta.shtml (10743 words)

	Qumran fragment 7Q5.
		A tiny piece of papyrus discovered in Cave 7 of the Qumran site, 7Q5 is thought by some to be a scrap from the gospel of Mark.
		The Qumran Fragment 7Q5 and its Significance for New Testament Studies).
		O'Callaghan and Thiede are not without their responses, of course, but I, for one, am not convinced by their claims that this papyrus fragment comes from the gospel of Mark.
	www.textexcavation.com /qumran7q5.html (330 words)

	bible.org: 7Q5: The Earliest NT Papyrus?
		To sum up: Not only are O’Callaghan and Thiede arguing that 7Q5 is a fragment from Mark’s Gospel, but they are also appealing to Kurt Aland to list this document officially as a NT papyrus: “Future editions of the Greek New Testament will have to include 7Q5.
		Since the fragment 7Q5 was written only on one side, it was doubtless a scroll rather than a codex.
		I would not be so rash as to suggest that 7Q5 is a copy of any of these passages, but just that the identification with Mark 6 is not unparalleled.
	www.bible.org /page.php?page_id=1196 (3982 words)

	Bible Software Review Weblog: Bible Software and Papyrology
		I had been researching O'Callaghan's identification of 7Q5 as part of Mark's Gospel (a hypothesis that was also supported by Carsten Thiede) for almost a year, and was interested in using Bible software in order to work on different identifications.
		Rubén Gómez: Well, my personal feeling after examining the evidence is that 7Q5 does not belong to the Gospel of Mark, but I am not very satisfied (let alone convicted) with many of the other proposed identifications (either Biblical or pseudoepigraphical).
		However, it is not a suitable identification for 7Q5.
	www.bsreview.org /blog/2004/03/bible_software_and_papyrology.html (690 words)

	El papiro 7Q5 fecha alrededor del año 50 después de Cristo. Un papiro revolucionario: 7Q5 Entrevista al p. José ...
		Al lado de la clara identificación del 7Q5, buena parte de los otros intentos de identificación de los papiros griegos de la cueva 7 quedaban algo inseguros.
		Y entonces usted vuelve a asumir el estudio del 7Q5 en profundidad e ingresa a la última etapa que culmina con el libro que publicará en breve...
		Aun cuando su trabajo sobre el 7Q5 no es un intento apologético, aun así tiene consecuencias importantes para el anuncio de la fe en nuestro tiempo, sobre todo en lo que se refiere a la historicidad de los Evangelios.
	www.mscperu.org /biblia/exegesis/blpapiro7Q5.htm (5438 words)

	Re: 7Q5
		A good companion book to Thiede's work is Graham Stanton's _Gospel Truth_, in which Stanton examines Thiede's claims --both with respect to 7Q5 as well as the Magdelan fragment-- and offers overwhelming evidence as to why neither identification can be correct.
		A couple of notes: The identification of 7Q5 (a papyrus fragment containing some 13 or 14 Greek letters) as containing a portion of Mark 6:52-53 was orginally put forward by Jose O'Callaghan in 1974; Thiede is simply one of the most vocal defenders of the conjecture.
		These other identifications are typically viewed as even less likely than that proposed for 7Q5.
	orion.mscc.huji.ac.il /orion/archives/1996a/msg00507.html (402 words)

	EL PAPIRO 7Q5 (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		Solamente si se trata de la N la identificación de 7Q5 como perteneciente a Marcos es posible.
		En abril de 1992 Thiede llevó el papiro 7Q5 al Departamento de Investigaciones de la Sección de Identificación y Ciencia Forense de la policía nacional israelí en Jerusalén.
		Allí se analizó al microscopio y pudieron verse los restos de una línea diagonal que comenzaba en el extremo superior del trazo vertical de la izquierda, con lo que queda confirmado que se trata de la letra nu (N).
	webs.ono.com /usr008/codices2004/qumra3.htm (708 words)

	P. Josè O'Callaghan e il papiro 7Q5 - Politica OnLine Forum
		Cioè, eventualmente si scoprisse un qualunque altro testo suscettibile di supportare una identificazione con 7Q5, questo testo avrà a che vedere con il nostro brano di Marco.
		Nel caso del papiro 7Q5 teniamo un pezzetto di rotolo; il che implica che esso sia anteriore all'anno 80 d.C., che fu quando essi cessarono di essere utilizzati...
		Sebbene il suo lavoro su 7Q5 non abbia un intento apologetico, non di meno esso ha delle conseguenze importanti per l'annuncio delle fede nel nostro tempo, soprattutto per quanto ha a che fare con la storicità dei vangeli.
	www.politicaonline.net /forum/showthread.php?t=34159 (5884 words)

	Fact and Meaning Are Inseparable in Christianity
		One of the strongest critiques of O'Callaghan's identification of 7Q5 as from the Gospel of Mark came from the late Colin J. Hemer, an Anglican expert in exegesis and archaeology.
		Hemer some years ago published an article in the German scholarly journal Zeitschrift fur die neuetestamentliche Wissenschaft in which he argued that 7Q5 could contain a passage written by Thucydides (a Greek historian who lived in Athens in the period from 460 to 400 B.C.).
		He then proceeded to show how the 7Q5 fragment could be read as a text from Thucydides.
	www.catholic.net /RCC/Periodicals/Inside/sep95/gospels4.html (1495 words)

	Re: 7Q5 (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		Regarding 7Q5, if Thiede claims that "he has assigned it to GMark," he is appropriating the work of someone else without attribution.
		In addition to Puech's work cited above, on both of Thiede's claims, articles are said to be underway from Peter J. Parsons and TC Skeat, each of whom is a major figure in papyrology.
		Scholarly assessment of Thiede's work on P. Magdalen 17, but not on 7Q5 so far as I know, is available on the World Wide Web.
	orion.mscc.huji.ac.il /orion/archives/1996a/msg00504.html (355 words)

	Consider Christianity - Text of the New Testament (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		In 1972, the papyrologist Jose O’Callaghan claimed that a small manuscript fragment found in among the Dead Sea Scrolls (called 7Q5) was actually from the Gospel of Mark (Mark 6:52-53), and dating somewhere between A.D. 50 and A.D. 68 when the caves were sealed.
		The case of the identification of 7Q5 with Mark was strengthen recently when the fragment was examine using special equipment.
		(4) Again, as with O’Callaghan’s identification of 7Q5 with Mark, this has caused considerable controversy for the range of dates given for Matthew are from the 40s to 90s with most liberal scholars dating Matthew in the 70s and most conservative scholars dating it in the 60s.
	www.consider.org /library/text.htm (2411 words)

	Catholic.net - Debate sobre los papiros de Qumrán (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		Puech, se centra en subrayar la imposibilidad de explicar la linea 3 de 7Q5 según la lectura de J. O´Callaghan, a saber: [me/n]h kai ti[apera/santej], añadiendo otras razones a las puramente epigráficas o paleográficas aducidas por É.
		Tras la publicación de este libro y la publicación de los tres artículos sobre 7Q5 en Revue Biblique 102 (1995), que venimos citando, J. Fitzmyer llega a afirmar de éstos que “demuelen con éxito la pretensión de J. O´Callaghan”.
		I, pero la evolución de la escritura lo hace posterior a 7Q5, aunque el color del papiro y el de la tinta son idénticos a 7Q5 (pág.142), para terminar rechazando las lecturas propuestas, a saber: 7Q4= Nm 14,23-24 (a); 7Q4: Nm 14,23-24 (b), 7Q4=Job 34,12-15 y 7Q4= Henoc 103,3s.
	es.catholic.net /temacontrovertido/609/1754/articulo.php?id=3529 (5129 words)

	Simón y el papiro 7Q5
		Dado que las cuevas contienen documentos anteriores al año 70, año en que las legiones romanas asolaron el lugar, 7Q5 ha de ser anterior al año 70, luego ha llegado a nosotros una copia de un escrito del Nuevo Testamento que tuvo que ser redactado antes del año 70, lo que no es poco importante.
		O somos objetivos, tanto los Filólogos, como los Historiadores, como los Arqueólogos, o estaremos dando un penoso espectáculo de reino de taifas, donde cada cual vuelve a establecer lo sucedido en la Historia de acuerdo con sus personales apetencias o con las enseñanzas asumidas cuando hizo la Primera Comunión.
		He dicho que si la identificación del padre O´Callaghan, que 7Q5 era Marcos 6,52-53, hubiera sido convicción común del mundo científico, tampoco llegaría a ser prueba a relacionar con Simón.
	www.sofiaoriginals.com /interpolaciones68.htm (1902 words)

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