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  861 Argument
The 861 argument is totally erroneous on a variety of grounds, and Larkin Rose has probably set the truth in taxation movement back about 10 years by promoting it as successfully as he has done.
However the whole basis of the 861 argument is to focus on, and consider the "sources," that allegedly produced your revenue.
So advocates of the 861 argument close their eyes entirely to the fundamental fact that there are no provisions making Americans liable for income taxes regardless of where their revenue comes from.
www.paynoincometax.com /861.htm   (3139 words)

 New 861 Article   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
861 would be expected to show ordinary income as taxable; it does not; that is a start to the evidence.
I continue to affirm that 861 is useful in that it materially evidences the deception, which is what it should be primarily used for.
Taking a stand on 861 is nonessential, so I have no axe to grind for my position; RL and thurstonbell may feel more strongly, considering for example how badly Simkanin was burnt by 861 (unadorned by CtC, and hampered by bad arguments like expatriation).
www.losthorizons.com /_disc2/00000108.htm   (494 words)

 We The People Features - Taxes - GROSS INCOME AND SECTION 861: TAX
The "861 argument" deals with "gross income" from which "taxable income" is derived.
So "income" is qualified to mean "taxable income," which, in turn, depends on what "gross income" is. Incidentally, if one goes to Section 1 of the Code, it says, "There is hereby imposed on the taxable income of..." and it proceeds to identify married individuals, surviving spouses, heads of households, unmarried individuals, estates and trusts.
Those who claim that IRC 861 is not relevant to citizens should explain why officials would go to such great lengths to obfuscate what would otherwise be a relatively little-used part of the Code.
www.givemeliberty.org /features/taxes/section861.htm   (3102 words)

 Meridian 861 Reference Surround Processor
The 861 was the first processor in the world to support Dolby's ProLogic II algorithm which is used for 2-channel movie material.
The 861 is a full-system controller preamp that provides seamless control of up to 12 analogue or digital audio, and up to 12 video sources.
Each 861 is factory fitted with a motherboard, a highly sophisticated power supply and a selection of 800 series cards, the total number of these being dependant on the combination being installed — see the 861 order form for more information.
www.meridian-audio.com /p_861.htm   (1665 words)

 TaxableIncome.Net:  Case #6, Transcript Page 1   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
You raised the argument that Code section 861 says that there’s items of gross income that should not considered to be sourced within the United States, and therefore is not taxable, I think is your basic argument.
Dorfman, and it says here, and she insisted on speaking and telling the judge about the 861 position, and how as a sovereign citizen of California, the federal courts had no jurisdiction, and all sort of...
the 861 position is being advocated by a small but growing number of business-owners and others who call themselves the tax honesty movement, and they say that the government operates the IRS illegally.
www.taxableincome.net /extortion/case6/transcript.html   (4146 words)

 Meridian 861 Version 4 Audio-Video Preamp With Room Correction
Their software is very robust and allows a tech-savvy end user or a dealer to dial in every last detail of your system, from the name of your inputs to the distance of your speakers from your listening position to the type of surround sound that you would most like to hear on your TiVo.
While setting up the Meridian 861 with a PC is a powerful experience, I feel that the average high-end guy doesn’t have as much control over the unit as he would with other high-end preamps, unless he dedicates himself to making himself proficient with the Meridian software.
Most important in endorsing the Meridian 861 as one of the single finest audio-video components in the entire world is the fact that Meridian has kept their promises to their early adopters who bought 861s when they first came out.
www.revolutionhometheater.com /equip/meridian_861/index.shtml   (3034 words)

 TaxableIncome.Net:  Irwin Schiff Fires and Misses   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
In presenting the 861 argument as they do - its advocates reveal that they haven't a clue concerning numerous characteristics of the income tax.
In fact, the regulations under 861 clarify the issue further, by saying that the "items" listed in Section 61 make up "classes of gross income" (26 CFR § 1.861-8(a)(3)), and then saying that those "classes of gross income" are in some cases excluded for federal income tax purposes (26 CFR §§ 1.861-8(b)(1), 1.861-8T(d)(2)(ii)).
And it is ludicrous to see the extent to which 861 advocates go in trying to conjure up such a distinction.
www.taxableincome.net /debate/attempts/schiff.html   (1910 words)

 WhatisTaxed.com - Computer-based Tax Research
Part I (section 861 and following), subchapter N, chapter 1 of the Code, and the regulations thereunder determine the sources of income for purposes of the income tax.
Sections 861, 862, 863(a), and 863(b) are the four provisions applicable in determining taxable income from specific sources.
Specifically, this other section (which is a part of 861) shows us the income of most Americans is not a taxable item of income.
whatistaxed.com /searchResults.htm   (7063 words)

 Straight Dope Message Board - Organize against the IRS, attention Lawyers and CPAs test your knowledge   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
Section 861 determines the geographic source of certain types of income, which, broadly speaking, is only relevant for certain exceptions relating to foriegn taxpayers.
Stating that 861 is used for allocation of certain important sources of income to U.S. ect is fine but using one sentance to erase the meaning of the previous sentance is questionable.
IMO wick's analysis of section 861 is wrong, as is his understanding of how law works.
www.achadwick.com /861/staright%20dope%20chat.htm   (6580 words)

 All A: 1 861 Z: 1 861   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
Treasury Regulations Under Code Section 861 Income from Sources Within the United States 1.
Not surprisingly, 26 USC § 861 is entitled "Income from sources within the United States...
861 shows that the income of United States citizens...
www.davidchuk.com /1_861.html   (261 words)

 800 Brochure: 861 Surround
The 861 provides an unmatched range of options for decoding and processing analogue and digital audio signals.
The 861 is a full-system controller preamp that provides seamless control of up to 12 analogue or digital inputs and up to 12 video sources.
By providing both digital and analogue inputs the 861 can give radically higher sound quality for sources that are originally digital -like CD, LaserDisc, DAB, DVD and DVD-A. In addition to accepting 2-channel audio, the 861 will handle encoded Dolby Digital, DTS or MPEG from sources like DVD, Satellite and LaserDisc (via a demodulator card).
www.meridian-audio.com /m_800_bro_861.htm   (756 words)

 All A: 861 Z: 861   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
A bishop is a piece used in the game of chess which is played on a board of square grids.
This is a forum for the discussion of the 861 Evidence and the Flash Presentation presented on www.
Nothing in sections 861 to 865 of the Code limits the gross...
www.davidchuk.com /861.html   (283 words)

 America's Oddest Tax Dodge - Can Section 861 of the Internal Revenue Code save you from income taxes? By Daniel Gross   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
Larken Rose is one of the primary exponents of the 861 position.
For his part, Larken Rose—who is thoroughly logical—dismisses the all-caps argument, as well as the theories of Irwin Schiff, who argues that there is no law requiring U.S. citizens to pay income taxes.
And 861 followers like Rose have been doing the equivalent of holding a marijuana smoke-in at a public park.
slate.msn.com /id/2086425   (858 words)

 THE FEDERAL INCOME TAX DECEPTION   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
Government lawyers at the Treasury Department, DOJ, White House, and many other federal agencies are desperately trying to prevent the public from seeing the evidence in the law that proves that most Americans (those whose income is derived only from domestic commerce) do NOT owe federal income taxes.
This critical part of the law proves that if an American does not have income derived from engaging in INTERNATIONAL commerce, then their income is NOT TAXED under federal law.
The specific legal language that is critical for the reader to determine WHEN income becomes "gross income" is found deep in the regulations under Section 861.
www.861.info /pgs/MiniCDsummary.htm   (702 words)

 Supervisor of Elections New Phone Numbers
The new system features a single number, 861-8600, through which callers will be guided directly to the person(s) best suited to answer their specific request.
This change is only one part of a county-wide initiative to convert all Sarasota County government offices to the 861 prefix which is reserved for only that purpose.
During the transition, the office has arranged to make sure callers who dial the old office numbers will be forwarded to the appropriate extensions in the new 861 prefix plan.
www.srqelections.com /press_releases/press_release20.htm   (166 words)

Section 861 and its related regulations, along with what the law calls other ‘operative sections,’ spell out exactly when income is taxable.
From the transcript it is apparent that Evans was arguing that federal law, specifically section 861, once properly applied, does not show that he has any liability for income tax.
Every time I brought up the issue of the proper application of Section 861 and Subchapter N (which contains Section 861), the judge would change the subject by asking me what appeared to be argumentative questions.
www.reasons2vote.com /pressrelease10-6-03.html   (896 words)

 Product Review - Meridian 861 Processor
Although it is possible to configure the 861 using the front panel, it’s expected that the consumer will want to do this through their Windows software.
The 861 is able to decode DTS (in all of its flavors) magnificently, from the visceral bass in the launch sequence of "Apollo 13" to the subtle nuances in "Casper".
The 861 is feature rich, easier to set up than its little brother, the 565, and is truly state of the art.
www.hometheaterhifi.com /volume_6_2/meridian861processor.html   (6107 words)

 TaxableIncome.Net:  Taxable Income, Page 1   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
As shown, 26 USC § 861 and following (which make up Part I of Subchapter N of the Code) are very relevant to determining what is considered a "source of income," and Section 861 in particular deals within income from "sources" within the United States.
While the significance of Section 861 and the related regulations may be obvious, the point needs to be thoroughly proven, since most tax professionals concede that Section 861 and its regulations are not about the income of United States citizens living and working exclusively within the United States.
If it did, there would be no need for Section 861 and following, and related regulations, to "determine the sources of income for purposes of the income tax." The following citations show that Section 1.861-8(f)(1) lists the "specific sources" of income subject to the income tax.
www.taxableincome.net /report/taxinc1.html   (3571 words)

 RFC 861 (rfc861) - Telnet Extended Options: List Option
Network Working Group J. Postel Request for Comments: 861 J. Reynolds ISI Obsoletes: NIC 16239 May 1983 TELNET EXTENDED OPTIONS - LIST OPTION This RFC specifies a standard for the ARPA Internet community.
Default WON'T EXOPL, DON'T EXOPL RFC 861 May 1983 Negotiation of options on the "Extended Options List" is not permitted.
RFC 861: I want to know about operating and command and switch of command for telnt by parsa (5/27/2004)
www.faqs.org /rfcs/rfc861.html   (436 words)

 IRS Income Tax Code Section 861 Evidence Presentation   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
Sections 861 and 862 say what count as domestic income and foreign income, respectively, but do not say that ANY income (foreign or domestic) is exempt for ANYONE (American or foreigner).
It goes on: "The rules of sections 861 through 865 have significance solely in determining whether income is considered from sources within the United States or without the United States, which is relevant, for example, in determining whether a U.S. citizen or resident may claim a credit for foreign taxes paid."
The income is not the subject of the tax: it is the basis for determining the amount of the tax." - written by a former legislative draftsman for the Treasury Department.
www.w3f.com /861   (1151 words)

 861   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
Comments on proposed regulations on the allocation of interest expense under Sections 861 and 864(e): July 24, 1991.
burdens associated with the proposed section 861 regulations, relating to the allocation...
Vuodet: 856 857 858 859 860 - 861 - 862 863 864 865 866
www.tietosanakirja.org /861   (321 words)

 Wadia 861 CD Player Home Page   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
The newly designed Wadia 861, Wadia's flagship Compact Disc Player, is startling evidence of the sonic performance and value possible with an integrated CD player.
The Wadia 861 CD Player uses the newest version of our patented DigiMaster filtering system with 24-bit capability.
Multiple circuit boards, software-updateable circuitry, and a rear panel insert allow the Wadia 861 CD Player the flexibility to upgrade with advances in technology.
www.wadia.com /products/861/861_home.htm   (414 words)

 Stereophile: Meridian 861 CD player
Even right out of the box, it's obvious that the Wadia 861 is something special—its heft and finish are beyond the usual high-end standards.
The user's primary interface is the hefty aluminum remote, which controls the standard transport functions and all of the additional operations necessary to use the 861 as a digital preamp, including volume, balance, phase invert, and source selection—the onboard transport or one of four auxiliary digital inputs.
The subpanel is replaceable, allowing the 861 to be upgraded as technology changes.
www.stereophile.com /digitalsourcereviews/540   (795 words)

 PA State Route 861 Ends   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
The Western Terminus of PA 861 is at PA 68 in Rimersburg.
The Eastern Terminus of PA 861 is at PA 66 in New Bethlehem.
This termini is just north of the PA 28 and PA 66 split.
www.state-ends.com /paends/state/861.html   (71 words)

 The 861 evidence can be simplified   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
Instead, they are backed into Step #2: claiming that 861 DOES show your income to be taxable.
Thanks to some sleight-of-hand by government lawyers over the last 80 years, Section 861 by itself gives the impression that ALL domestic income is taxable.
Section 861 "allocates" certain types of income as being domestic income, and Section 862 "allocates" certain types of income as being foreign income.
www.apfn.net /messageboard/6-19-03/discussion.cgi.63.html   (1979 words)

 Re: simple questions/861   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
Please forgive my eyes glazing over whenever I read 861 material because I keep getting the shells confused with those used in the several adjoining games.
This version is incorrect because Americans are taxed, and liability is created, when they assess domestic earnings as "income".
The correct version of 861, or at least the version I came to after pretending I'd mastered the material, is that 861 demonstrates domestic earnings of Americans NEED NOT create tax liability; though it does not demonstrate when they do or do not (which CtC does).
www.losthorizons.com /_disc2/000000a9.htm   (405 words)

 861   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
This book managed to teach me a great deal about my car that I was clueless on before.
I can say that Cisco has raised the bar on the curren...
In the Name of Peace: Collective Statements of United States Catholic Bishops on War and Peace 1919-1980 No. 861
www.freeglossary.com /861   (339 words)

 Dialogue -- Unknown News   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
I don't know squat about "861," but I'm not new to all this.
But the cops don't believe the law, so if you have any integrity you'll make sure as you give your "right to remain silent" argument, that people understand, they're likely to be beaten to bloody pulps.
The main page is all about alleged mistakes in the interpretation of tax laws, as if the law matters to those tyrants, and with nary a whisper about being beaten to bloody pulps.
www.unknownnews.net /040717d-861lw.html   (1224 words)

 Map of 861 N Nellis Blvd Las Vegas, NV by MapQuest
Map of 861 N Nellis Blvd Las Vegas, NV by MapQuest
No representation is made or warranty given as to its content.
MapQuest and its suppliers assume no responsibility for any loss or delay resulting from such use.
www.mapquest.com /maps/map.adp?city=Las+Vegas&state=NV&address=861+N+Nellis+Blvd&country=us&zoom=8   (50 words)

 An Introduction to the 861 Evidence   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
This is the first in a series of messages written especially for people new to the “861 evidence.” The first thing I would ask is that you, the reader, begin by setting aside any preconceived notions you have about what these messages will be about.
But the REGULATIONS which “interpret” Section 861 say that the section is about income from “specific sources,” which (surprise, surprise) are all about INTERNATIONAL matters, including foreigners doing business here, Americans doing business in federal possessions, Americans with foreign income, etc. By now you can probably guess what is NOT on the list: YOUR income.
There is a free Flash presentation about the 861 evidence found on the internet at www.861.info I ask that some time in the next few days, you set aside an hour to WATCH the thing.
861evidence.mayashastra.org /archived-essays/The_861_Evidence.html   (9746 words)

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