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  The Environmental Literacy Council - Abiotic Theory of Oil Formation
The prevailing explanation for the formation of oil and gas deposits is that they are the remains of plant and animal life that died millions of years ago and were compressed by heat and pressure over millions of years.
The abyssal, abiotic theory of oil formation has received more attention in the West recently because of the work of retired Cornell astronomy professor Thomas Gold, who is known for development of several theories that were initially dismissed, but eventually proven true, including the existence of neutron stars.
Gold's theory of oil formation, which he expounded in a book entitled The Deep Hot Biosphere, is that hydrogen and carbon, under high temperatures and pressures found in the mantle during the formation of the Earth, form hydrocarbon molecules which have gradually leaked up to the surface through cracks in rocks.
www.enviroliteracy.org /article.php/1130.html   (890 words)

  
 The 'Abiotic Oil' Controversy
Oil and natural gas typically show a C-12 to C-13 ratio similar to that of the biological materials from which they are assumed to have originated.
However, the assertion that all oil is abiotic requires extraordinary support, because it must overcome abundant evidence, already cited, to tie specific oil accumulations to specific biological origins through a chain of well-understood processes that have been demonstrated, in principle, under laboratory conditions.
Peak oil is itself a maverick idea, and for the past several years I have been promoting a view that the Wall Street Journal recently described as "crackpot." (14) So I feel a bit unaccustomed and even uncomfortable now to be on the side of the scientific "establishment" in arguing against the abiotic oil theorists.
www.rense.com /general58/biot.htm   (2978 words)

  
 sciforums.com - Oil study "fuels" controversy...!!
Unless someone believes that the oil fairy is going to come down and magically refill a trillion barrels worth of lightsweet surface crude on fields that have been depleted for several decades or something equally crazy, then abiotic oil theory isn't a solution.
Abiotic oil theory predicts that oil is a renewable resource, which is demonstrably false, and it predicts that oil reserve wells will refill themselves, which they have shown no trend of doing so upon further inspection.
Abiotic oil does exist, but it is in insignifigantly miniscule, noncommercially viable quantities, and the rate at which is produced hasn't yet been shown to be any faster than biotic oil, which is around 20 million years.
www.sciforums.com /showthread.php?t=45692   (4116 words)

  
 Abiotic Oil: Science or Politics?
The proponents of the abiotic oil theory are often very aggressive in their arguments.
In the "weak" abiotic oil version, it may just be that the amount of carbon that seeps out from the mantle is small enough for the biological cycles to cope and still maintain control over the CO2 concentration.
So, the abiotic oil theory is irrelevant to the debate about peak oil and it would not be worth discussing were it not for its political aspects.
www.fromthewilderness.com /free/ww3/100404_abiotic_oil.shtml   (1424 words)

  
 The Edge of England's Sword: Black Gold
These were that due to the abiotic theory Russian scientists were finding evidence for oil in unlikley places, that there was credible evidence for an abiotic origin for oil and that there was some western interest in the concept.
One of the others did not even address the abiotic theory but a different phenommenon of the chemical alteration of pre-existing oil reservoirs by gases, and the third was a technical piece of chemistry which demonstrated that certain low-end hydrocarbons might be able to be created in temperature and pressure conditions akin to the mantle.
No, oil is abundant, and known reserves of oil are actually increasing every year as a function of improved extraction and exploration technologies.
www.iainmurray.org /MT/archives/000900.html   (951 words)

  
 No Free Lunch, Part 2: If abiotic oil exists, where is it?
While Dr. Gold claimed this oil to have an abiotic origin, others have pointed out that the early drilling used injected oil as a lubricant, and that this is the likely origin of the oily sludge.
And if they had gone to the trouble of extracting the oil from the sludge and refining it, they would have had even less oil, and their expenses would have increased by the cost of extraction and refining.
Eugene Island is one of the darlings of abiotic theorists.
www.fromthewilderness.com /free/ww3/011205_no_free_pt2.shtml   (3987 words)

  
 portland imc - 2005.05.09 - Natural Petroleum: NO Connection With Biological Matter; abiotic oil noted by oil industry
The oil we drill for is just that fraction of total oil that has been trapped by an impervious rock formation, generally in the shape of an inverted cup, that prevents the oil from reaching the surface.
If we accept the abiotic oil theory, that oil is generated from methane deep in the Earth's interior, then the oil accumulations we have found may have taken all 4.5 billion years of Earth's existence to accumulate, instead of the few hundred million years the biotic theory postulates.
Abiotic oil, IMO, is a cornucopian's wet dream; propogated by conspiracy theorists with too much time on their hands and too little active matter in their heads.
portland.indymedia.org /en/2005/05/317075.shtml   (7900 words)

  
 Abiotic Oil: Science or Politics? : Houston Indymedia
Abiotic theory of oil formation is used to dispute peak oil theory.
The author explains that neither a weak nor strong abiotic oil formation method would be logical when dealing with our current rate of petroleum consumption..
Note; Though i disagree with Ruppert's verdict that Gary Webb's death was a suicide, the peak oil theory is still more logical than the abiotic "oil forever" theory that seems to play into the hands of petroleum corporations..
houston.indymedia.org /news/2005/02/37531.php   (1624 words)

  
 abiotic oil debate
It is simply an effect of oil slowly migrating through pore spaces from areas of high pressure to the low-pressure area of the drill hole.
Dave McGowan argues for the abiotic theory, which holds that oil is generated by natural processes in the earth's magma, and he also argues pointedly that the "fossil" theory has never been proven.
Since abiotic petroleum is not disputed and is verifiable, the logical presumption, until proven otherwise, is that all the natural gas and petroleum in commercial use, and in the ground, and in storage tanks, and anywhere else, is abiotic oil and gas.
www.questionsquestions.net /docs04/peakoil1.html   (4852 words)

  
 No Free Lunch, Part 1: A Critique of Thomas Gold's Claims for Abiotic Oil   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
With oil seepage tracked to nearby sedimentary rocks, it is very likely that these stripped away sediments were also oil rich.
Oil migrates in any reservoir up or down, so it is not surprising to find oil in many basement reservoirs.
A: Most oil is transported with water from the source-rock to the reservoir: this is why in the reservoir there is oil over water with generally a water-oil contact being horizontal except when there is a strong dynamic aquifer causing a tilting (such as King Hubbert was the first to mention).
www.copvcia.com /free/ww3/102104_no_free_pt1.shtml   (4730 words)

  
 Abiotic Oil Counterplan   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
High-risk/high-cost AFF plans that change oil consumption or supply are vulnerable to a Counterplan that minimizes risk and utilizes Status Quo mechanisms to arrive at a better outcome.
There is evidence that oil may be generated by abiotic, that is, non-living, materials in the upper mantle of the earth.
If the study shows that Abiotic Oil works, then we publish that information to the private sector, and the world is flooded with new, abundant, inexpensive oil.
www.trainingminds.org /coachvance/a0000285.cfm   (845 words)

  
 Stalin And Abiotic Oil
Analysis of the ancient oil that seems to be coming up from deep below in the Gulf of Mexico suggests that the flow of new oil "is coming from deeper, hotter [sediment] formations" and is not simply a lateral inflow from the old deposits that surround existing oil fields, [Whelan] said.
The authors argued, quite compellingly, that oil is not created from organic compounds at the temperatures and pressures found close to the surface of the earth, but rather is created from inorganic compounds at the extreme temperatures and pressures present only near the core of the earth.
What they were acknowledging, lest anyone misunderstand, is that the oil that we pump out of reservoirs near the surface of the earth, and the oil that is spontaneously and continuously generated deep within the earth, could very well be the same oil.
www.rense.com /general63/staline.htm   (10909 words)

  
 Abiotic Oil
Enter abiotic oil, also called "inorganic oil," the theory that oil is not from dead dinosaurs but from chemical reactions in the Earth's mantle.
Dave McGowan has used the abiotic oil theory to attack the peak oil crowd, suggesting that they're part of a conspiracy to make us think the oil is running out when it's not, perhaps so the oil industry can inflate prices.
As of October 2004, the peak oil writers are finally posting some strong critiques of the abiotic oil position.
ranprieur.com /crash/abiotic.html   (1042 words)

  
 EnergyBulletin.net | The “Abiotic Oil” Controversy | Energy and Peak Oil News
However, in fact universities and oil companies are staffed with thousands of “competent physicists, chemists, chemical engineers and men knowledgeable of thermodynamics” who not only subscribe to the biogenic theory, but use it every day as the basis for successful oil exploration.
J. Kenney has put forward a succinct and persuasive paper arguing for the abiotic theory (5), but there is no prominently published rebuttal piece that systematically discusses or attempts to refute his assertions.
Peak oil is itself a maverick position, and for the past several years I have been promoting a view that the Wall Street Journal recently described as “crackpot.” (14) So I feel a bit unaccustomed and even uncomfortable now to be on the side of the scientific “establishment” in arguing against the abiotic oil theorists.
www.energybulletin.net /2423.html   (3143 words)

  
 The Oil Scenarios: guide to the oil depletion debate
While eventually oil production may be reduced that time is far in the future (30+ years) and by that time alternative energy sources such as solar, wind, fuel cell, and maybe even fusion technology will have been developed.
The second more extreme view results from a view that oil is not limited by the amount of biotic life in the past as oil is, in their view, formed naturally deep in the earth.
Those that speak of never ending oil supplies are generally those that have an optimistic outlook on overall economic growth and don't see resources in general as limiting human population growth.
www.oilscenarios.info /pollyana.htm   (836 words)

  
 Armageddon Online - Is OIL abiotic? fossil fuel? or both?   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
What gets me is, if oil is a non-renewable, non-renewing resource, like Mike Ruppert of FTW states, then it would also "morally justify" *cough, cough* the war in Iraq to sustain our civilation as we know it.
what if, oil was "abiotic", and it was created near the core of the planet, under alot of pressure, rising as it is created from the wastes of churning?
Hehe, well there are some "colorfull" debates on abiotic oil on the PO forums with a bunch of links.
forums.armageddononline.org /showthread.php?t=4236   (569 words)

  
 nwsltr71
Speaking of oil and gas seeps, I was admiring the new, and very cool, National Geographic "Earth at Night" composite satellite photo the other day, and I couldn't help but notice that in addition to the bright white lights of sprawling urban centers, there are also a number of bright red lights visible.
Returning to the oil and gas field map of California, notice that about 2/3 of the way down the state, at the south end of the San Joaquin Valley, lies a large concentration of oil fields.
Bardi then proceeds to 'debunk' the abiotic 'theory' (which was actually proven, once again, by the PNAS study) by claiming that if oil was abiotic in origin, then the planet would be drowning in oil, and the planet is not drowning in oil, so therefore oil cannot be abiotic.
davesweb.cnchost.com /nwsltr71.html   (4464 words)

  
 ABIOTIC OIL EXISTS!!!   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
We have said that there is no evidence that it is produced in useful quantities, and we have stated that abiotic generation of simple hydrocarbons such as methane does not indicate abiotic production of the complex hydrocarbons we refer to as crude oil.
While the abiotic generation of simple hydrocarbons within the Earth has been proven, the production is very minor-especially in comparison with commercial natural gas reserves and the world demand for natural gas.
In spite of this, we are sure some proponents of the abiotic oil hypothesis will ignore the isotopic profile of abiogenic hydrocarbons referred to above.
www.gnn.tv /B04839   (949 words)

  
 Bruce Bartlett on Oil & Abiotic Theory on NRO Financial
The prevailing theory on the origin of oil is the dead-dinosaur hypothesis, which dates back to the 18th century.
Rather, oil originates deep in the Earth’s crust from inorganic material that is part of the planet’s origin.
Among prominent scientists whose work supports the abiotic theory are Jean Whelan of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, Mahlon Kennicutt of Texas A&M University, and J.F Kenny of the Gas Resources Corporation.
www.nationalreview.com /nrof_bartlett/bartlett200406090816.asp   (949 words)

  
 Peak Oil Abiotic Oil
A refutation of abiotic theory from Italian chemistry professor Ugo Bardi
Russia Proves "Peak Oil" Myth is a Zionist Scam
From a rather empassioned proponent of abiotic oil
www.drydipstick.com /peakoil-abiotic-oil.html   (214 words)

  
 bastardsword: Abiotic Oil
Whether abiotic oil be certainty or insanity, the arguments this link presents are of low viscosity.
Unless a geologist was drilling for somekind of malpractice lawsuit instead of oil, he would stop the bit shortly after grinding on the granite.
That means our drilling has been limited to the places where the data shows oil is a good possibility, leaving the vast, vast majority of the crust unprobed.
armor.typepad.com /bastardsword/2005/02/abiotic_oil.html   (696 words)

  
 Peak Oil Hubbert's Peak Dry Dipstick
Bush Vows to Eliminate U.S. Dependence on Oil by 4920
An American branch of the Association for the Study of Peak Oil has been formed to "encourage prudent energy management, constructive community transformation, and cooperative initiatives in an era of depleting petroleum resources"
Absolutely the best site for the latest Peak Oil news.
www.drydipstick.com   (123 words)

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