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	Andreth (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-08-19)
		Andreth was a daughter of Boromir of the House of Bëor, and a sister to Bregor.
		She was born in the 361 year of the First Age.
		Andreth was deeply in love with Aegnor, son of Finarfin.
	www.worldhistory.com /wiki/A/Andreth.htm (245 words)

	Andreth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		In her youth she dwelt in the house of Belemir, where she had learned the lore of the House of Marach from Adanel.
		She had a close friendship with Aegnor's brother Finrod Felagund, who often visited her during the Siege of Angband to converse with her on the matters of Elves and Men.
		One such conversation was written down and later known as "Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth".
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Andreth (195 words)

	TolkienWiki: Andreth
		In her youth, Andreth had dwelt long in Belemir's house and had learned from Adanel much of the lore of the People of Marach besides of her own folk.
		This debate became known as Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth and concerned the fates of the Eruhíni.
		Andreth was also known as Saelind because of her wisdom.
	www.thetolkienwiki.org /wiki.cgi?Andreth (182 words)

	ORCS - Orc Roleplaying Community Site (Resources - Anthologies - Origins of Orcs)
		Andreth tells Finrod that "The darkness that is now confined to the North, but once lay upon all Middle-Earth while you dwelt in your bliss" here she refers to the time between the War of the Gods and the returning of Melkor and the Elves to Middle-Earth from Aman.
		Finrod asks Andreth what it is the Mankind have done long ago in the dark and how they have angered Ìluvatar but she will not tell him but says there is no remembering of it in her folks but there is tales of it among the people of Adanel.
		Furthermore Andreth did in her speaking with Finrod mention or at least incline that the humans were already born while the darkness was still laying over the Earth.
	www.orcs.ca /orcsmain/resourceorigin1.html (2121 words)

	The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum - * Breelanders All: Planning Thread *
		They were calling him names, and said he was stupid…” What Andreth did not say was that, much to her embarrassment, her own son Edmund had gone along with the group who’d been tormenting the boy.
		Andreth navigated her cart down the main street of Bree, carefully skirting the large potholes, and pulled up in front of the Inn.
		Andreth placed her hands on her hips and inwardly groaned as she took in this scene of mounting confusion.
	forum.barrowdowns.com /showthread.php?t=5639 (10688 words)

	The Reading Room \|\| Lord of the Rings Reading and Writing Workshop (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-08-19)
		After sitting and thinking for a few minutes, Andreth heard a soft footfall behind her, and turning around beheld a strong tall man wearing simple hunter's raiment of dark green and brown; but all Andreth noticed at that moment was his long golden hair and bright blue eyes.
		Andreth stood up, her deep brown eyes gazed into his blue ones, and she felt comfortable again, for she knew this was her friend from the hills.
		Andreth soon felt at home, for it was not a solemn meal, but one of joy and laughter, with sweet meats and wine, and delicious fruits, for the Siege of Angband still held strong, and all of Aegnor's family was there feasting that night.
	www.theonering.com /docs/6912.html (2032 words)

	Andreth
		Andreth was a daughter of Boron of the House of Bëor;, and a sister to Boromir.
		In her youth she dwelt in the house of Belemir, where she had leaned the lore of the House of Marach from Adanel.
		She probably died when Morgoth broke the Siege of Angband in Dagor Bragollach (F.A 455).
	www.sciencedaily.com /encyclopedia/andreth (241 words)

	Logs: Chapter 33: Flowers Blue and Yellow
		As Andreth moves closer, he sees that the door, for lack of a better word, is once again a slab of stone.
		Pulling on the slab, Andreth slowly pulls the slab towards him, taking advantage of the angle at which the slab is set into the ground.
		Andreth's fists fly wildly but this undead seems to be more nimble than the ones before.
	birthright.merkava.org /logs/33.html (3348 words)

	Proto-evangelion: the "Old Hope"
		Andreth was a human woman of the House of Bëor, great-great-granddaughter of Bëor the Old and great-aunt of Beren One-Hand (whom Finrod joined in the Quest of the Silmaril), and known as Saelind (Wise Heart).
		Finrod and Andreth's present is Arda Marred, a world tragically diminished and tainted by the evil of Melkor.
		As Finrod and Andreth discuss the origin and meaning of human mortality, an astonished Finrod begins to speculate that healing Arda, "as agents of the magnificence Eru," is the great errand of Men: "to enlarge the Music [through which Arda and all of Eä was first made] and surpass the Vision of the World!"
	www.geocities.com /domachowski/protoevangelion.html (936 words)

	IMDb :: Boards :: Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, The (2002)
		Finrod, King of Nargothrond, and Andreth, a “wise woman” of the house of Beor (and a close relative of the still unborn Beren), have a debate which addresses human mortality, elves’ attitudes towards humans (and why the elves are curiously unsympathetic to human death), and the eventual fate of the two races.
		In fact, Andreth never took a human husband and spent the rest of her life wishing that they had done precisely that, even if she could only spend her youth with Aegnor.
		But surely Finrod realizes that for Andreth it's just not good enough that she has her memories of Aegnor, when she believes it could be possible to actually live with him, even if only for a short while.
	ringnuts2.bravehost.com /fateelfhuman.htm (2880 words)

	Logs: Chapter 6: Joe's Hideout
		Andreth remembers in mid-sentence that he's also not supposed to be polite.
		Andreth follows on her other side, his hand constantly near the dagger on his belt as if he'd be utterly lost without it.
		Andreth grunts, and subtly tries to hustle his friends along.
	birthright.merkava.org /logs/6.html (4652 words)

	Modern Age: The transcendent in Tolkien
		In answer, Andreth expresses her belief that Melkor, a deceiving, fallen member of the Valar--angelic beings created by the supreme being, Iluvatar--must have marred the entire human race, changing its nature and shortening the lives of men and women.
		No, men are not marred but deceived and self-deceiving: they are beings made for immortality--"born to life everlasting," as Andreth puts it--and beloved by their Creator, but fallen into error and evil.
		When Andreth asks how IIuvatar could descend into His creation without destroying it, Finrod answers that it is well within the wisdom and power of IIuvatar to take the form of one of His created beings in order to enter into the world to accomplish His ends.
	www.findarticles.com /p/articles/mi_m0354/is_3_45/ai_n6140124 (1178 words)

	Hopeless Courage, Part III of III -- The Lord Of The Rings -- Hollywood Jesus
		This is the hope kept by some of the elves when contemplating the end of the world and (presumably) the death of their bodies -- that whatever happens, Eru will somehow provide for his children.
		Andreth replies that for the most part, men have no more estel than they do amdir, for they believe that they have been cut off entirely from Eru and that Melkor dominates their fate as the "Lord of the World".
		Yet she acknowledges that there are a few (very few) of her race who cling to estel in an "old hope" that Eru will someday actually enter the world in order to heal the mysterious estrangement between himself and humanity (anticipating the Christ event).
	www.hollywoodjesus.com /lord_of_the_rings_guest_05.htm (2512 words)

	Names of the Edain
		Adanel - A wise woman of the House of Marach who shared her widsom with Andreth.
		Andreth - A mortal woman, the descendant of Beor the Old, who had many philosophical discussions with Finrod in Morgoth's Ring.
		Beor - Founder of the House of Beor.
	www.geocities.com /shireofthehobbits/mathomhouse/edainnames.htm (1042 words)

	Date: 1/14/2004
		This is a fabulous activity that not only helps with Leelo’s trunk strengthen, but is very social.
		The children are sitting on this in groups of three, one particular day it was Leelo, Ellie and Andreth.
		Everyone is giggling and enjoying themselves and Leelo is very interested in Ellie’s and Andreth’s faces; watching them intently.
	shroomhead.blogspot.com /iron_gate_week7.htm (375 words)

	Maggie - Caged
		It was Andreth, the young wife of one of Aragorn's advisors.
		But to Andreth she said, "Then perhaps you will join me on a walk about the gardens?" Andreth nodded and Éowyn rose.
		Andreth was a tall, raven-haired woman who looked very much like the other women of Gondor.
	www.parma-eruseen.net /stories/maggie_caged.html (4510 words)

	The One Ring \| For Online Tolkien Fans \| The Lord of the Rings Source (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-08-19)
		Finrod is the Lord of the Noldor, and Andreth is a mortal woman who, we find out, loved Finrod's brother Aegnor.
		Andreth tells Finrod that among her people it is said that someday Eru will come to Arda and heal it of its marrings.
		Somewhere it is implied (either in a footnote by Tolkien or something Andreth says; I can't remember) that he would have to enter Arda in a physical form, i.e.
	www.theonering.com /comments.cfm?Item_ID=14474&Item_Type=articles (330 words)

	Adanel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		The Wise of the People of Marach were the only Men to preserve the tale of their original sin, when, soon after their awakening, the Men chose to worship Melkor instead of Eru.
		Adanel told this tale (called the Tale of Adanel in Morgoth's Ring) to Andreth of the House of Bëor.
		This page was last modified 22:18, 27 September 2005.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Adanel (139 words)

	Open Scrolls Archive - "Finrod\'s Oath", Chapter 1 (Rated: PG)
		The siege of Angband was nearing its end when I brought the message from Andreth.
		But he was little more than an empty hroa and I knew Andreth's words would be of little comfort.
		One fleeting moment of joy for Andreth to cling to as she waits.
	www.scribeoz.com /fanfic/story.php?no=52 (2379 words)

	D&D 3rd Edition Character Record: Andreth (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-08-19)
		That all changed when one old man proved to be far, far tougher than he looked.
		The monk Brother Oak was impressed with Andreth's spirit, and apparently saw some hope of redeeming the lad, and so he took him under his wing and trained him in the Way of the Oak.
		Grown to adulthood, Andreth headed to the Woolwich hiring fair to seek his fortune, and fell in with a group of fellow adventurers who would become the White Company.
	tharkun.dyndns.org /dnd/andreth.html (347 words)

	Origin of Orcs
		In the tale, "The Debate of Finrod and Andreth", Andreth speaks of the Fall of Men and that they (Men) are not now as they once were.
		Finrod asks Andreth what it is it that Mankind did long ago in the dark and how they angered Ìluvatar, but she will not tell him, saying there is no remembrance of it in her folk but that there are tales of it among the people of Adanel.
		Furthermore Andreth, in her speaking with Finrod, mentions or at least infers that the humans were already born while darkness still lay over the Earth
	www.valarguild.org /varda/Tolkien/encyc/papers/orcsAmillo.htm (2064 words)

	Amazon.com: Books: Morgoth's Ring: The Later Silmarillion, Part One (The History of Middle-Earth, Vol. 10) (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-08-19)
		At this time Tokien sought to redefine the old legends, and wrote of the nature and destiny of Elves, the idea of Elvish rebirth, the origins of the Orcs, and the Fall of Men.
		His meditation of mortality and immortality as represented in the lives of Men and Elves led to another major writing at this time, the "Debate of Finrod and Andreth," which is reproduced here in full.
		The centerpiece, in my mind, is the debate of Finrod and Andreth, which through alternate existing versions and Christopher Tolkien's editorials, we can piece together the REAL origins of the Edain in Tolkien's universe.
	www.amazon.com /exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0395680921?v=glance (1949 words)

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		Again it is needed to look at who said it, it was the Eldar who said so, whereas Bëor said " A darkness lies behind us.".
		Furthermore Andreth do in her speaking with Finrod mention or at least incline that the humans were already born while the darkness was still laying over the Earth.
		The next question is how could Melkor have breed the Orcs from Mankind when he was imprisoned in Aman after the battle and have them ready when he returned from Aman and when the Noldor came, very soon after him, the Orcs had already infested the Earth.
	www.annalsofarda.dk /annals-of-arda/Orcs-index-tables/Origintext.htm (2066 words)

	Much ado about Arwen: Elven Princess (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-08-19)
		Instead he attended to the long war between the Noldor and Morgoth, and he seemed to have forgotten her.
		But in truth he had foreseen that he would soon die, as the Elves accounted such matters, and for that reason he forebore inflicting any greater grief on Andreth.
		The tragedy of their love was that he didn't understand how much she would have preferred to have been his wife if only for a few years, than a lonely woman unsure of what had gone wrong.
	www.suite101.com /article.cfm/tolkien/34740 (2294 words)

	Christopher Tolkien on The Second Prophecy of Mandos and the LQ 2 'corrections'
		Here is the history of the second prophecy as explained by Christopher Tolkien: $17 The language of the Folk of Haleth was not used, for they had perished and would not rise again.
		Nor would their tongue be heard again, unless the prophecy of Andreth the Wise-woman should prove true, that Turin in the Last Battle should return from the Dead, and before he left the Circles of the World for ever should challenge the Great Dragon of Morgoth, Ancalagon the Black, and deal him the death-stroke.
		And the final passage of the QUENTA, concerning the prophecy of the recovery of the Two Trees, ends with the words (IBID.): But of Men in that day the prophecy speaks not, save of Turin only, and him it names among the Gods.
	talkaboutabook.com /group/rec.arts.books.tolkien/messages/265482.html (756 words)

	RingQuest - Túrin and The Second Prophecy of Mandos (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-08-19)
		The language of the Folk of Haleth was not used, for they had perished and would not rise again.
		Nor would their tongue be heard again, unless the prophecy of Andreth the Wise-woman should prove true, that Túrin in the Last Battle should return from the Dead, and before he left the Circles of the World for ever should challenge the Great Dragon of Morgoth, Ancalagon the Black, and deal him the death-stroke.
		So, it seems clear that the Prophecy of Mandos, (at least the part awarded to Andreth), is just a tale made by her, but if the Eldar had no knowledge of the end, how can it be proven to be true.
	www.ringquest.com /forums/showthread.php?t=6958 (1256 words)

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		This "Second Prophecy of Mandos" was not included as part of the published Silmarillion, because it was later rejected as a "myth of Númenórean origin." A full discussion of Tolkien's changing ideas concerning the nature of Arda cannot fit here, of course.
		The book "Morgoth's Ring" (Volume X of The History of Middle-earth) presents the complex history of this matter; the Athrabeth Finrod Ah Andreth, a philosophical and theological dialogue between Finrod and Andreth with extensive authorial commentary, is the most elaborate treatment of this subject.
		I recall in ROTK that when Gandalf and the Captains of Gondor and Rohan are discussing strategy after the Battle of the Pelennor Fields that someone asks Gandalf what will happen to Sauron and the other rings if the One Ring is destroyed.
	greenbooks.theonering.net /questions/files/052803.txt (4318 words)

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