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  Baptism for the dead - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Baptism for the dead is an ordinance performed today in temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for those who have died without having been baptized by one having authority.
Vicarious baptism does not mean that the decedent actually accepts the ordinance performed for him or her or that the deceased becomes a member of the LDS church; it merely means that the decedent may accept the ordinance and the benefits which the Latter-day Saints claim it provides.
Baptism for the Dead A philosophical consideration of paedobaptism and baptism for the dead.
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Baptism_for_the_dead   (2740 words)

  
 What is baptism for the dead?
Answer: In short, it looks like the baptism of the dead was a non-biblical practice of the Corinthian church where a living person was baptized in lieu of a person that passed away, as a means of making a public profession of faith for a person that was already deceased.
The Mormon practice of baptism for the dead is neither scriptural or sensible.
Baptism for the dead is a practice that was common in the pagan religions of Greece and is still practiced today by some cults; but it doesn't change a person's sentence, for that is determined while he lives (Luke 16:26).
www.gotquestions.org /baptism-dead.html   (375 words)

  
 FAQ: Baptism for the Dead
Baptism for the dead (and the whole concept of God's grace being extended to all his children who will accept and follow Christ) is one of my favorite things about the Church and is evidence to me not only that the Church has been restored, but that God is a just and loving God.
Baptism for the dead will be made available by proxy for every person who never had the chance to be baptized after reaching the age of accountability.
Baptism for the Dead: The Coptic Rationale - a scholarly review by Dr. John A. Tvedtnes of the early Christian practice of baptism for the dead, as understood by Coptic Christians.
www.jefflindsay.com /LDSFAQ/FQ_BaptDead.shtml   (7513 words)

  
 The Watchman Expositor: Mormonism's Baptism for the Dead
In every active Mormon Temple proxy baptisms for the dead take place in which living Mormons temporarily assume the names of dead people to perform baptism on their behalf.
Although baptism for the dead is "the most glorious of all subjects belonging to the everlasting gospel," and the Book of Mormon contains the "fullness of the gospel," baptism for the dead cannot be found in the Book of Mormon.
Finally, a vital companion doctrine to baptism for the dead is the practice of genealogy, or tracing one's "roots" to determine the names of dead relatives.
www.watchman.org /lds/cultbapd.htm   (1001 words)

  
 Baptism for The Dead
The premise of baptism for the dead is the absolute necessity of water baptism for forgiveness of sins and eternal life.
Since baptism and circumcision are near equivalents, as signs of the Old and New Covenants, respectively, it follows that one could say in the same sense, “baptism counts for nothing,” except as an outward sign of the inward reality of repentance and faith in Jesus Christ alone.
Baptism for the dead also conflicts with the Book of Mormon teaching that baptism is a covenant for mortal life.
www.inplainsite.org /html/baptism_for_the_dead.html   (5026 words)

  
 Gospel Link
Baptism for the dead is the proxy performance of the ordinance of baptism for one deceased.
The first public affirmation of the ordinance of baptism for the dead in the Church was Joseph Smith´s funeral sermon for Seymour Brunson in Nauvoo in August 1840.
The language of the baptismal prayer is the same as for the living, with the addition of "for and in behalf of" the deceased.
ldsfaq.byu.edu /emmain.asp?number=25   (937 words)

  
 Did Jesus Institute Baptism For The Dead   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
The premise of the article is that if baptism for the dead is truly a Christian rite, it must have an organic, historical connection to the earthly ministry of Jesus and his first century apostles.
For as we shall see, baptism for the dead is linked by the apostle to an errant group within the Corinthian church, whose false teaching the entire fifteenth chapter of 1 Corinthians — including verse 29 aims to correct.
Salvation for the dead is one of the distinctive doctrines of Mormonism that separates it from historic Christianity.
www.helpingmormons.org /dead.htm   (8474 words)

  
 Baptism For The Dead
Baptism for the Dead is a ritual invented by Joseph Smith for the purpose of entering dead people into heaven who did not have the opportunity, or who did not take the opportunity to join the Mormon Church.
As described by Scott, the baptisms were performed in the Mormon temples in a special baptismal font room, “...which held an immense bowl-like metallic font which was supported on the backs of statues of twelve life-sized brass oxen, symbolic of the twelve tribes of Israel.
Baptism of the dead is one of the most ludicrous and disconcerting practices of the Mormon Church.
mormonconspiracy.com /baptism-for-the-dead.html   (586 words)

  
 Baptism for the Dead. Mormon View Refuted
LDS apologists argue that Paul presents baptism for the dead in such a way that it must have been a rite that the church was used to performing.
Baptism is the ritual that portrays this burial..." It is "a symbol of the complete redemptive event" whose reality is paralleled in the death of Christ and which finds its completion in the faith of the believer.
The ceremony was a "second" baptism, but not an effective baptism: Recognizing baptism as a rite that symbolized the transition between death and the spiritual resurrection life, the Corinthians instituted baptism for the dead as a formal procedure that eased the deceased's transition to the afterlife.
www.tektonics.org /mordef/baptdead.html   (7584 words)

  
 Mormon Baptism for the Dead - ReligionFacts
Baptism for the dead by proxy (or "vicarious baptism") is an ordinance practiced by members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and other Mormon denominations.
Baptism for the Dead allows this saving ordinance to be offered to all those who have previously passed on without having heard of the Gospel of Jesus.
If baptism is a required ordinance, as Mormons believe is evidenced by Jesus's own desire to receive it from John the Baptist, then this ordinance becomes a burden for all those who wish to spread the Gospel with all the inhabitants of the earth who have previously passed on to the afterlife.
www.religionfacts.com /mormonism/practices/baptism_for_the_dead.htm   (409 words)

  
 L.D.S. Doctrine Of Baptism For The Dead
Baptism is regarded as essential to salvation (P 128) and those, as the Pharisees and Lawyers (Luke 7:30), who reject baptism are thereby “forfeiting their claim to salvation.” (P. In developing the doctrine of baptism for the dead, Talmage notes that not all have heard and obeyed the gospel.
Also a final inconsistency to be noted in that between the prerequisites of baptism according to L.D.S. doctrine and the vicarious baptism allegedly performed If one lacks faith and repentance, as per their doctrine, his baptism is invalid.
The “proxy baptism,” “vicarious saviour doctrine” of L.D.S., in order to sustain itself, must not only remove such inconsistencies as noted, but it must also show that the whole concept of proxy baptism is taught in the Bible, and that the vicarious baptism interpretation alone is the true interpretation of 1 Cor.
www.caic.org.au /theology/bap-dead.htm   (1186 words)

  
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The Mormon church cites 1 Peter 3:18-20, 4:6, and 1 Corinthians 15:29 as biblical evidence, respectively, for its elaborate doctrine of salvation for the dead and the related practice of vicarious baptism for the dead.
Because in the Mormon view water baptism is essential to gain eternal life, Christ also instituted proxy baptism for the dead as an ordinance of the Christian church.
Mormons are baptized for their dead, non-Mormon ancestors in the belief that they will have the opportunity to accept the gospel in the spirit world, but also need this rite performed on their behalf to seal their salvation.
www.equip.org /free/DM399.htm   (4518 words)

  
 What is baptism for the dead mentioned in 1 Cor. 15:29?
In their practice, individuals go to their local Mormon temple, dress appropriately for a baptism, representatively adopt the name of a person who has died, and then the Mormon is baptized in water for that deceased person.
It is probable that the Corinthians were being influenced by the religious practices found at Eleusis where baptism for the dead was practiced.
This is significant because the Christian church was not practicing baptism for the dead, but the pagans were.
www.carm.org /questions/baptismfordead.htm   (614 words)

  
 Baptizing people for salvtion of the dead
Baptism for the dead is an essential aspect of the fullness of the gospel.
An essential companion doctrine to baptism for the dead is the practice of genealogy, which one traces their “roots” to determine the names of dead relatives in their lineage.
Mormons practice baptism for the dead using 1Cor 15:29 as their biblical justification: “Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead.
www.letusreason.org /LDS5.htm   (4471 words)

  
 Mormonism's Baptism for the Dead
One reason Mormons advance the practice of baptism for the dead is a sense of justice.
It is not necessary to postulate another preaching of the gospel and second chance of repentance in the afterlife, much less the necessity of proxy baptism for the dead, on that basis.
The practice of baptism of the dead, then, must stand or fall based on the direct evidence concerning it, and that is where the Mormon position runs into fatal problems.
www.catholic.com /library/Mormonism_Baptism_for_the_Dead.asp   (2208 words)

  
 Proxy Baptism for the Dead
The New Testament church practiced the ordinance of baptism for the dead, whereby living individuals were baptized on behalf of those who did not have the opportunity to receive this rite in mortality.
If the dead are not raised to life at all, what do they mean by being baptized on their behalf?" Despite the clear implications of Paul's questions in 1 Corinthians 15:29, some commentators deny that Paul is referring to an approved Christian practice of proxy baptism for the dead.
One problem with this interpretation is that it assumes that Paul did not approve of baptism for the dead even though he cited the practice to strengthen faith in the resurrection.
ourworld.cs.com /mikegriffith1/id72.htm   (1198 words)

  
 Mormon Baptism for the Dead
Correction: Baptism for the dead was a pagan practice in ancient Corinth.
All ordinances for the dead had to wait until after Jesus Christ had gained the victory over death, and then to Peter and his brethren the authority to officiate in behalf of the dead was revealed.
Paul has given us the clearest insight in his first epistle to the Corinthian saints wherein he spoke of baptism for the dead, implying that this principle was very well understood.
www.truthandgrace.com /deadbaptism.htm   (558 words)

  
 Baptism for the Dead?   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
A third view is that baptism for the dead means being converted and baptized at the urging of a martyr; to take their place in the church here on earth so to speak.
Furthermore, if the Mormons were right on this point, it would be better to be wrong on baptism for the dead (in good company with the early church), and believe in the One Supreme God like the Bible teaches, then to be right about a lesser point and worship the wrong god.
Since there is no evidence of baptism by proxy by Christians in the Bible or the early church, as far as Paul is concerned, Mormons can be content to be a "they" and Christians are content to be a "we".
www.biblequery.org /OtherBeliefs/Mormonism/BaptismForTheDead.htm   (1449 words)

  
 The Prosblogion: Baptism for the Dead
The biggest difference is that paedobaptists use the term 'baptism' and treat their children as part of the covenant itself rather than simply as benefiting from being part of the more general covenant community.
They believe this because they think baptism is a trust on the parents' part that their child will be saved, will express faith in Christ, and will serve him as Lord.
If they should now baptize all their other kids, it seems by the same reasoning that they should baptize their dead oldest son, in the trust that he is indeed elect and committed himself to Christ during that three-year time.
prosblogion.ektopos.com /archives/2005/06/baptism_for_the.html   (2649 words)

  
 Speaker challenges Mormons over baptism for the dead - (BP)   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
Acknowledging that Mormons use the verse to support baptism for the dead, Wilson nonetheless disputed the Mormon interpretation of the passage.
"The fact that Paul's mention of baptism for the dead is not an endorsement is signaled by the impersonal manner in which he refers to the practitioners.
Wilson said Paul was pointing out the inconsistency of his opponents, who denied the resurrection but engaged in baptism for the dead, which was ironically based on the hope of resurrection.
www.sbcbaptistpress.org /bpnews.asp?ID=4088   (893 words)

  
 1 Corinthians 15:29 & Baptism for the Dead: What Does it Mean?   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
Paul's statement -- whatever it means -- is used as a rhetorical argument favoring the resurrection of the dead, not as an anomalous, incongruous example within the context of a positive affirmation of resurrection.
We have the notion of "baptism of desire" for a person who was not baptized for some reason, but would do so if he could (such as the thief on the cross).
I just mentioned it as a cross-reference to the discussion on "baptism for the dead," because Paul appears to have a verse from Maccabees in mind, where prayer for the dead is explicitly taught (and that shows it was indeed Jewish practice, whatever one thinks of the canonicity of that particular book).
ic.net /~erasmus/RAZ221.HTM   (4276 words)

  
 Baptism For The Dead   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
Whatever the "baptism for the dead" was, Paul was not practicing it.
Paul, in this context, is presenting a series of arguments which show that the dead are indeed raised, the terrible consequences if they are not raised, and the inconsistency of the no-resurrection doctrine.
So in a very real sense, every time one is "buried with Christ in baptism" he is being baptized "with reference to" dying, death, the dead.
fbg-church.org /articles/baptismforthedead.htm   (734 words)

  
 Baptism of the Dead - ChristianAnswers.Net
The weakness of this view is that history does not record any cults that included the baptism for the dead during this time period in Corinth.
The final option, which seems to be the most reasonable, is that the baptism for the dead refers to those who are willing to be identified with Christianity and who suffer the fate of persecution just as those who have lived as examples before them.
The first crucial aspect concerns the word "baptized." One of the meanings of baptism is "identification." When Lydia would dip her fabric in a large jar of purple dye, the fabric would take on the same color as the dye.
www.christiananswers.net /q-eden/edn-r001.html   (1258 words)

  
 Apologetics Press - Baptism for the Dead?
We are baptized for the dead in the sense that we are baptized in water to eliminate the dead man of sin.
Thus Paul was asking why the apostles would subject themselves to the baptism of suffering, in behalf of the spiritually dead people of the world if, in fact, no one has hope of the resurrection.
He brought up the subject of baptism for the dead for one reason: to reaffirm the reality of the resurrection.
www.apologeticspress.org /articles/1799   (783 words)

  
 WATER BAPTISM FOR THE DEAD
Again on the subject of salvation, the Mormons teach and practice water baptism for the dead.
The meaning of 1 Corinthians 15:29 (the verse the Mormons cite in an effort to prove their water baptism for the dead doctrine) has to not only be consistent with all the rest of God's word, but it must also fit the immediate context.
The very next verse in 1 Corinthians 15 says, "And why stand we in jeopardy every day?" In other words it is fruitless to be in jeopardy every day if the dead One of the preceding verse (Christ into Whom we have been baptized) is not to be resurrected.
www.bibletruths.org /cults/MormonismBaptismDead.html   (413 words)

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