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  Encyclopedia: Black Numenoreans   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-15)
Two early Black N rean lords are named from the time of the late The Second Age ;: Herumor and Fuinur.
Nevertheless, the Black Numenoreans of Umbar, even after being exiled from their city for 82 years, continued to exercise much influence over the Haradwaith well into The Third Age: in 1015 T.A.,
The Black N rean style of governing was no doubt tyrannical, but may also have involved a tradition of duumviracy, at least in Umbar, who's lords are always paired when mentioned; Herumor/Fuinur for example, and much later Angamaite/Sangahyando.
www.nationmaster.com /encyclopedia/Black-Numenoreans   (694 words)

  
 Encyclopedia of Arda: Black Númenóreans
The only statement dating the emergence of the Black Númenoreans is a rather vague comment from The Lord of the Rings, where they are said to have settled in Middle-earth 'during the years of Sauron's domination' (The Return of the King V 10).
II 1800 is probably the earliest possible date for the Black Númenóreans to have appeared: in the Tale of Years, the entry for that date states, 'The shadow falls on Númenor'.
The Black Númenóreans were not destroyed in the War of the Last Alliance, but after their master's fall, they rapidly diminished and were absorbed into the native peoples of Middle-earth.
www.glyphweb.com /arda/b/blacknumenoreans.html   (403 words)

  
 Black Númenóreans
Umbar was taken by the King of Gondor Eärnil I in 933 T.A., but the Black Númenóreans fled to their subjects in Near Harad, and Umbar was reclaimed.
They still retained many of the ancient characteristics of the Edain, like their cousins the Dúnedain, although since their blood mixed more with lesser Men than that of the Dúnedain the length of their lives had dwindled to that of lesser Men by the end of the Third Age.
The Mouth of Sauron, who provoked the army of King Elessar in front of the Black Gate of the Morannon, was a Black Númenórean.
www.brainyencyclopedia.com /encyclopedia/b/bl/black_numenoreans.html   (451 words)

  
 Dictionary of Meaning www.mauspfeil.net   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-15)
Tolkien's fictional world of Arda, the '''Black Númenóreans''' were originally among the survivors from the mightiest human kingdom that had yet been, Númenor, which was destroyed by Eru in the late Second Age.
In one of his letters, Tolkien wrote that Queen Berúthiel, wife of Gondor's King Tarannon Falastur was a Black Númenórean, from a Black Númenórean realm he describes as "the inland city" somewhere south of Umbar.
Three of the Ringwraiths can be considered among the first and most powerful Black Númenóreans, even though their origin predates Númenor's fall by about 1000 years: they served Sauron, being enslaved to his will, having become so because of their lust for power or knowledge..
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The term “Black Numenorean” (S. “Mornumenedian”) is used to describe Men of Dunedian stock who are descended from the “unfaithful” Numenorean colonist and conquerors who came to Middle-earth during the middle and late Second Age.
Black Numenoreans, therefore, are actually very similar in physical and cultural character to the Dunedain.
Prejudices: Black Numenoreans are biased against nearly every other people, but their prejudices against the Elves and the Dunedain are practically vehement.
www.angelfire.com /rpg/Fae/RPS/MERP/BlackNumenoreans.html   (602 words)

  
 Middle Earth Roleplay UK Official Website   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-15)
These folk became known as the Black Númenóreans and they often led their powerful fleets against the Dúnedain of Gondor, particularly those in the rival port of Pelargir.
The fl ships, or dromonds, of Umbar were on the waters raiding the coast, and the Corsairs of Umbar bacame the terror of the seas.
The Black Númenóreans were not destroyed in the War of the Last Alliance at the end of the Second Age, but after their master's fall they rapidly diminished and were absorbed into the native peoples of Harad.
merpuk.wireplay.co.uk /pages/PRC.htm   (1430 words)

  
 Umbar - Iridis Encyclopedia   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-15)
They became known as the Black Númenóreans, and served Sauron as they had done in the last days of Númenor.
Some of the Black Númenóreans returned to their old city after four centuries of exile, mingling with the new Númenórean blood of the Gondorian exiles.
From 1448 to 1810 Umbar was ruled by the heirs of Castamir, and in 1540 their Haradrim allies killed King Aldamir of Gondor.
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 TolkienWiki: Corsairs
The sight of their fl-sailed dromonds always filled the peoples of Middle-earth with fear, for they held many warriors and were driven by the power of slaves pulling many oars.
Yet in time the kings of Gondor came against them, and in 1050 (TA), the power of the Black Númenóreans was broken forever and Umbar became a fortress in Gondor's realm.
So it was from the fifteenth century until the War of the Ring, that these people were named the Corsairs of Umbar and were always counted among the chief enemies of the Dúnedain of Gondor and Arnor.
www.thetolkienwiki.org /wiki.cgi?Corsairs   (278 words)

  
 Black Numenoreans - Planet-Tolkien.com   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-15)
Black Numenoreans were so called because of their preference to serve Sauron and were actually from Numenor.
I like to think that after Sauron's defeat some of these Black Numenoreans enjoyed life beyond the Shadow and their ancestry and heritage (being similar to Aragorn's) came to the fore and they contributed to the Age of Men.
I seem to recall that the mouth of sauron was a fl numorian and that the people as a whole integrated with (or became) the corsairs.
www.planet-tolkien.com /board/cat/5/thread/2287/0   (1016 words)

  
 Fanatics Plaza: Gondor Kingdom
To three of the Black Númenóreans he gave Rings of Power, these three were numbered among the wraiths called the Nazgûl To two others, who were named Herumor and Fuinur, he gave other powers and they became Lords amongst the Haradrim.
The Black Númenóreans often came north into the lands of Gondor and Arnor to test their strength against that other noble remnant of the Númenórean race, the Elendili, or Elf Friends.
The Black Númenóreans proved to be immensely strong and for more than a thousand years their pillaging was endured.
www.lotrplaza.com /gondor/racesofmen.asp   (549 words)

  
 White Council archive | Black Numenoreans Revisited | Tolkien and the Inklings discussion
So the Black Numenoreans he is talking about being related : to the Mouth were definitely Second Age people whether they were called : Black Numenoreans at the time or not.
They would not have called themselves Black Numenoreans in the Second Age, and though the King's Men are essentially the same people as the Black Numenoreans, they were still KING'S MEN in the last 122 years of the Second Age.
The great cape and land-locked firth of Umbar had been Numenorean land since days of old; but it was a stronghold of the King's Men, who were afterwards called the Black Numenoreans, corrupted by Sauron, and who hated above all the followers of Elendil.
www.sf-fandom.com /xoa/white_council/archive_37/7421.htm   (1136 words)

  
 Umbar   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-15)
They became known as the Black Númenóreans, and served Sauron as they had done in thelast days of Númenor.
From the downfall of Sauron onwards, Umbar remained a realm of the Black Númenóreans, now no longer in the service of Mordor, and they became lords over the Haradrim.Umbar had no kings, but rather was ruled by a duumvirate.
Some of the Black Númenóreans returned to their old city after four centuries ofexile, mingling with the new Númenórean blood of the Gondorian exiles.
www.therfcc.org /umbar-236061.html   (1149 words)

  
 Lindëfirion: History of Umbar
Consuls of Umbar, as the duumvirate was called, claimed to rule "in the King's absence", enshrouding the dark events of the past and even subscribed to a myth that foretold Ar-Pharazôn's triumphant return from the West and reclaim of the throne in some distant future.
The Black Númenóreans did not exchange Classical Adûnaic against an Elvish-influenced Westron either but retained it as a language of lore that might be called "Black Adûnaic".
Black Númenoreans of Umbar acknowledged Gondor's sway, repented and mingled with the conquerors.
www.taivaansusi.net /roolipelit/lindefirion/umbar_history.html   (1933 words)

  
 Men from the East
But basically, Numenoreans were the descendants of the Edain (the Three Houses of Men who first came to the lands west of the Blue Mountains and fought alongside the Elves) They were the The House of Bëor, The House of Haleth, and The House of Hador.
Unfortunately the Numenoreans turned against the Valar (again you have to read the books to know this) It was a combination of their jealousy of why the Elves are immortal and the Men are not and they broke the rule that no Men should go or even attempt to go to Valinor.
Black Númenóreans are more likely to be found among the Haradrim because they settled around the haven of Umbar and in Near-Harad in the Second Age.
www.killermovies.com /forums/archive/index.php/t-22622   (420 words)

  
 [No title]   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-15)
Given this pedigree, the Black Numenoreans faction should have been something special, even if in modern days only a remnant of the once proud nation of Numenor remains.
The Black Numenoreans are just one of the lot, and they're not even the best one.
In fact it could be argued that The Black Numenoreans are the worst faction of the twelve.
fan.theonering.net /morgulrats/cotd/cotd741.html   (769 words)

  
 BSC   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-15)
The Black Númenóreans then aroused the Haradrim to go to battle at their side against the Dúnedain of Gondor.
Not only were the Haradrim and Black Númenóreans defeated, but Gondor now took more land into their subject, which they called then the Harandor, meaning "South Gondor".
In the 19th Century of the Third Age, not only did the Haradrim aid the Black Númenóreans again to retake Umbar, but they kept it in their own possession after it was successfully taken from Gondor.
blackshadowclan.mine.nu /harad.html   (422 words)

  
 Mordor... the Land of Shadow
Chief of all the servants of Sauron, the Witch-king was, in origin, one of the fl Numenoreans who the Dark-lord seduced to his own service by the gift of one of the Nine rings.
Tyrant of the Haradrim; Black Captain of the Corsairs of Umbar; one of the first to fall under the spell of the Ringlord, gained Sauron's favor by bringing Harad under his rule through trickery and hateful tirades against the Numenor.
Guardian of the Morannon (the Black Gate of Mordor) ; Captain of the Teeth of Mordor, the towers that flank that Gate ; said to use a Palantir to spy for Sauron and to communicate with agents such as Saruman.
www.thelandofshadow.com /mordorgate/2darkservants/nazgul/nazgultext1.htm   (2152 words)

  
 WFG Forums > Third Age Gothmog   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-15)
In fact the fl numenorean theory has literary support- in the second age, two of Sauron's most influential cohorts are two fl numenoreans, Herumor and Fuinor, who both became Sauron's puppets in the South.
He is of (Black) Númenorean origin and seems to have been in Sauron's service since the FIRST rebuilding of Barad-dûr (after the drowning of Númenor in SA 3319), he seems to victim of "short-term-memory-loss" since he has forgotten his name...
Black Op Dec 31 2003, 07:02 PM I think Gothmog was a Black Númenórean like MoS, both had the ranks of Lieutenants of their respective places (Minas Morgul and Barad-dûr), and also obviously forgotten both their names (unfortunate side effect for mortals who live too long, plus, Gothmog dosen't sound too Númenórean to me).
www.wildfiregames.com /forum/lofiversion/index.php?t1846.html   (4360 words)

  
 Black Numenoreans - www.ezboard.com
The Black Numenoreans were Numenoreans who came to middle-earth and established their own domians over "lesser Men" Their natural greed and proximity to Sauron made them easy pray
Tolkien mentions the Mouth of Sauron possibly being a Black Numenorean, but he doesn't actually say that he was.
The Black Numenoreans who lived in Middle-earth had travelled there and settled in Harad before the destruction of Numenor, in the time when Sauron was still there as the king's advisor.
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 RingQuest - Who is the Mouth of Sauron?   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-15)
At its head there rode a tall and evil shape, mounted upon a fl horse, if horse it was; for it was huge and hideous, and its face was a frightful mask, more like a skull than a living head, and in the sockets of its eyes and in its nostrils there burned a flame.
The Black Númenóreans were the ones who were deceived by Sauron when he was captured in Númenor.
If the Mouth of Sauron is a fl Númenórean, then he could be one that escaped the destruction of Númenor by going to either Pelargir or Umbar and entering openly into the Service of Sauron in 3320 of the Second Age.
www.ringquest.com /forums/printthread.php?t=7337   (1022 words)

  
 black
The origin of the first fl Numenoreans is in the latter half of the Second Age.
After Sauron's downfall at the beginning of the Third Age, the bloodlines of these numenorean descendants mixed with other peoples, especially the Haradrim over which they had dominion.
During the first millenia of the age, they proved strong enemies of the Dunedain of Gondor, but were permanently scattered when Umbar was taken in TA 933, and when the subsequent siege was broken in TA 1050.
www.lost-realms.org /import/help/black.html   (159 words)

  
 Men
The Edain were the first Men met by Eldar, and the two races were friendly with one another, with the exception of the Black Númenoreans.
Black Númenoreans - The darkened Men who followed Morgoth, and did horrible things in his name.
Corsairs - A remnant of the descendants of the Black Númenoreans who were not on the island when it sank.
lostworldofennor.angelcities.com /Peoples/Men.htm   (1408 words)

  
 The character and non
The Umbareans are Black Númenóreans that are from the city state of Umbar.
Among the men, the Black Númenóreans are most frequently in the leadership positions being the most highly intelligent and skilled.
The Black Numénóreans typically wear medium to heavy plate that is frequently made from superior materials.
users.rcn.com /sdeveau/Barad-wath/races.htm   (2511 words)

  
 LOTRG Forums - Origin and Names of the Nine
The most interesting thought (to me) is that if the 9 were Numenorean in origin, they or their forefathers would have had to be among the Faithful who returned to Middle-earth, so they at least started out as being basically "good" men.
The fl prince went to Barad-dûr during the first week of the second age 1883 and became a pupil of the Lord of the Rings.
The Black Prince was known thereafter as the Witch-King or the Lord of Morgul.
www.lordoftheringsguide.com /forums/printthread.php?t=15091   (5929 words)

  
 Sauron   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-15)
Sauron perceived that he could not win by force, but he still hoped that he could overthrow the Numenoreans by cunning and deceit, so he came down out of Barad-dur and allowed himself to be taken to the island realm of Numenor.
An army from the Black Gate captured the island of Cair Andros in the Anduin and crossed the river into Anorien in northern Gondor.
Sauron was called variously the Dark Lord, the Lord of Mordor, the Lord of the Black Land, the Power of the Black Land, the Lord of Barad-dur, the Lord of the Dark Tower, the Black Master, the Black One, and the Black Hand.
www.tuckborough.net /sauron.html   (7491 words)

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