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		Both are "blue-laser" based formats, with BluRay holding much more data on a single disc.
		With Sony behind BluRay, the just announced endorsement from Disney, as well as support from 60% of the movie studios, I think that ship has sailed.
		Keep in mind Sony has a hand in the tape backup and storage business, and if they make BluRay players, burners, and media too cheap they could stand to undercut their storage business seriously.
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	Felix On-line (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
		Although he emphasised that “there have been a lot of misinterpretations and misunderstandings” surrounding the new discs, and this timescale is “largely affected by political and financial factors as well as technological factors”, a fact missed out by a large majority of articles covering this technology.
		The BluRay consortium was set up for this very purpose, to establish a universal standard for the BluRay media.
		BluRay can only come out once the companies have made enough money from the sale of DVDs, or they are forced to market their product by the competition, and consequently MODS discs will most likely be able to come on to the market once the companies have milked all they can from BluRay.
	www.felixonline.co.uk /2002-04/article.php?aid=2032 (813 words)

	Digital Television to the Max
		It now appears that neither side has been willing to give up on certain key technical aspects of their respective technologies and as a result there will most likely not be any agreement that would have avoided a ‘format war’.
		Both the HD-DVD and the BluRay high definition optical disc groups were promoting the merits of their format.
		Sony (one the BluRay developers) has recently acquired MGM and this adds to their library of major motion pictures that they could release in HD (Sony Pictures also owns Columbia and TriStar studios).
	www.dtvmax.com /main.htm (12974 words)

	Toshiba says Blu-ray unification talks 'a waste of time' - CD Freaks.com
		I doubt bluray will become a niche product because with bluray burners and 54 gigs of space it will be hard to refuse.
		I like the idea of a burner that can read cd dvd and bluray, I think this is more elegant of a solution for the transition phase, as I do not wish to have 2 players on my home entertainment center.
		BluRay is considerably more prone to damage and has also been forced out the caddy.
	www.cdfreaks.com /news/11816 (3511 words)

	Xbox 360 & Xbox Forums - HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray editorial on dvdreview.com
		If IM not mistaken I was under the impression that hddvd and bluray showed the say quality picture.
		The main difference with hddvd and bluray would be size I thought.
		Only thing I can see that bluray should have an advantage are in shows or movies that are series.
	forum.teamxbox.com /showthread.php?t=325097 (1928 words)

	Reader Comments - Consumers Prefer Blu-ray Disc Over HD DVD - Xbox
		But, I highly doubt the BluRay Association included a list of feature films to be released on HDDVD vs. BluRay, or the predicted price of actual players, and how quickly those players will drop in price.
		BluRay can brag about having more space than HD-DVD, but the difference in capacity is negligible when there's a format like HVD around the corner.
		I did not say BluRay would not be superior, I'm just saying is that what the consumer needs now, or even 3 to 4 years from now.
	news.teamxbox.com /comments/8743/Consumers-Prefer-Bluray-Disc-Over-HD-DVD (10764 words)

	Hardware Analysis - Forum - Blu-ray or HD-DVD?!?!?
		I agree I thik I like the idea of BluRay as well because the capacity will be much larger the PS3s going to use it etc etc....
		BluRay might actually be cheaper, after you have the player and recorder of course.
		What I don't understand is why BluRay doesn't just sit under the operating table for another few months and gets upgraded to UVRay.
	www.hardwareanalysis.com /content/topic/37487 (1745 words)

	Why Blu-Ray is better than HD-DVD. - AVS Forum
		AIUI one BluRay win over HD-DVD is that the BluRay camp have produced a 3 layer sandwich, which allows a single 25Gb BluRay layer and 2 DVD5 layers, to give you a 25Gb BluRay AND a DVD9 DVD on one disc.
		In Japan BluRay is already used as a lossless HD MPEG2 timeshifting recorder, with an internal BS satellite tuner in their BluRay recorders I believe?
		The second generation BluRay devices, which will include players, which is what we are waiting for (with pre-recorded material), will be MPEG4 (and possibly VC-1) compatible as well.
	www.avsforum.com /avs-vb/showthread.php?referrerid=7488553&threadid=511609 (3093 words)

	Toshiba Announces DVD Recordable Discs for 2006
		Sony recently announced that their PlayStation 3 would be based on the BluRay disc technology.
		Following the announcement, Sony said their BluRay discs and recorders could be available as early as the fourth quarter of 2005.
		Many see HD DVD having the edge on BluRay with a less-costly transition for the industry since its disc structure is close to that of current technologies.
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	High Def Forum - Your High Definition Community & High Definition Resource - Blu-Ray "A winner from the start"
		When DVD first came out, it was Sharp and Sony who were the lead players in getting the format off the ground.
		Same goes with this, Sony has already won the Game Console Format, The Computing Format and has half of the film studio format, along with that, they have all these major technology companies behind them, including yet again Sharp, one of the leading companies in the form of DVD players and LCD Displays.
		I would say that my prediction is that Bluray will come out champion but I am 78% sure of this, so there is a margin of error, if HDDVD is not completely wiped out after the first 2 years, then that margin will increase.
	www.highdefforum.com /showthread.php?t=4647 (1076 words)

	Net 4 Now Discussion Forum - Forget Bluray or DVD, how about 250Mb per disc?
		BRITISH scientists have invented a CD-sized disk that can hold 10 times more than a Blu-ray disc.
		BluRay discs, which have five times the capacity of a DVD at 25GB per layer, are expected to be released to the domestic market towards the end of next year.
		All 350 scheduled episodes of "The Simpsons", totalling 8,080 minutes of film, could be stored on the new disc claim physicists at Imperial College, London.
	www.net4nowtforum.co.uk /showthread.php?t=16645 (193 words)

	Doom9's Forum - BluRay to stop piracy (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
		Poor Sony claims that DVD is no longer profitable due to piracy and therefore they need a new format with stronger encryption.
		Sony proposes to launch digital HD content on BluRay discs in 2005/06, using AES encryption (that's going to be a bitch to crack if properly implemented).
		Heck, the DVD forum hasn't even settled on a HD DVD standard yet (they have but some feel the decision will be reversed once a BluRay proponent takes over the DVD forum chair, which is supposed to happen in the 2nd half of 2004).
	forum.doom9.org /showthread.php?s=&threadid=68425 (1940 words)

	MacMischief - a new kind of Mac News site - Apple throws its weight behind BluRay
		Reuters reports that Apple has joined the BluRay forum, alongside other heavyweights such as Dell, Sony, HP, and Disney.
		BluRay is a Sony-developed DVD format that has been battling HD-DVD in an effort to become the standard in next-generation DVD's.
		And here we thought BluRay was a sunglass company.
	www.macmischief.com /article.php?id=224 (198 words)

	Which DVD Recorder? @ The Digital Recorder
		BluRay and HD-DVD are formats that are likely to surface in the US late this year (2005).
		BluRay's major supporters are Sony, Panasonic and Disney.
		Unlike the DVD recorder 'format war' though - which quickly defused itself with multi format devices and compatibility with DVD-Video - the situation between HD-DVD and BluRay is much more akin to the VHS v Betamax 'war' of the 80s.
	www.btinternet.com /~james_lancaster/whichdvd.HTML (8816 words)

	Simpsons swallowed whole by DVD of the future: News
		It would also have applications in enterprise data back-up and distribution.
		Where existing schemes have patterns of pits that reflect the laser as a series of ones and zeros, MODS can encode and detect over 300 variations per pit.
		BluRay discs -- only available in Japan at present, with European products expected in 2005 -- can store up to 25GB per layer and can have two layers.
	www.cnet.com.au /hometheatre/0,39025963,40001582,00.htm (472 words)

	Panasonic Launch BluRay Recorder - AV Forums
		Both BluRay recorders (the Sony and Panasonic models) commercially available now support traditional red laser media (DVDs and CDs) and the new blue laser media (BR-RW).
		The all important Hollywood studios are yet to commit in the HD-DVD versus BluRay war.
		Take BluRay for example: Panasonic have outlined their roadmap that has BluRay recording to be incorporated into the DIGA range - within a matter of a few years all but the most basic DVD recorder will have BluRay recording.
	www.avforums.com /forums/showthread.php?t=138480 (1190 words)

	Department of Justice investigates DVD Bluray group
		THE BLURAY GROUP has become the subject of an inquiry by the Department of Justice (DoJ) over the global standards it promotes.
		While the Bluray consortium is pushing its own standard for video disks, it's in a battle with NEC and Toshiba which are promoting their own high density HD DVD format.
		The report said that HP and Dell are already supporting Bluray, while Microsoft wants the electronics firms to use the Window Media video software.
	www.theinquirer.net /?article=13814 (297 words)

	AnandTech - I'm here to clear confusion up - 100GB BluRay disc (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
		It's a bit worrying with ones' indistinguishableness of the measure of bits per second and bytes per second.
		The rate of buring a BluRay disc is 72 Megabits per second.
		While burning 100GB of BluRay disc would take about 3 hours 10 min with the speed of 72 Mbps ([100 * 1024 * 8 / 72] / [60*60]); It's long, but I don't think many ocasions you would be burning full 100GB discs; so people shouldn't really worry about it.
	forums.anandtech.com /messageview.cfm?catid=27&threadid=1595791 (1128 words)

	Bitnile Bittorrent Share Philosophy - Future DVDs could hold 1TB of data (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
		MODS gains the extra storage space by using much more subtle variations in the way light reflects from the disks.
		Existing laser disks, including DVDs, CDs and the new BluRay system, use disks that have a pattern of pits that reflect laser light, which is read as a series of ones and zeros.
		That would enable each pit to store 10 times as much data as BluRay, which is currently the most advanced optical medium.
	www.bitnile.com /printout877.html (306 words)

	CGTalk - Disney Backs Blu-Ray
		For Disney to give its backing to BluRay, it can't be for technology reasons.
		There must be some backroom wheeling and dealing going on between Disney and Sony to cause this.
		I'm not saying BluRay is a bad format.
	forums.cgsociety.org /printthread.php?t=193323&pp=50 (4211 words)

	Where will HDTV be in 5~10 years.. What's your prediction ? - AVS Forum
		4) Someone puts a BluRay player on a Toshiba SED and everyone notices how much BluRay is superior to HD-DVD and also how SED is vastly superior to any other form of Display.
		Every new Movie is released on Dual Sided Discs: One side is a 50gig BluRay dual layer and the other side is 8.5gig DVD dual layer.
		13) BluRay is 1080P 60 in MPEG2 with very high bit rate and Dolby Digital Plus or DTS ++ for Audio: giving it a "visible" and "audible" edge over Broadcast HD.
	www.avsforum.com /avs-vb/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=556885 (2704 words)

	[H]ard\|Forum - Apple will go with Blu-Ray
		I heard the porn industry is swinging towards bluray also...
		Funny, because I heard that they were going to go with HD-DVD because it's supposed to be cheaper.
		I read the same, and they carry a lot more weight than either Apple or Microsoft, believe it or not, when it comes to what format will be the one of the future.
	www.hardforum.com /printthread.php?t=878356&pp=40 (1689 words)

	8Bit Joystick.com: Post E3 2005 Predictions
		Sony is hoping that their 100% backwards compatibility will keep the millions of PS2 gamers from getting an Xbox 360.
		The BluRay drive will really help the adoption of BluRay disc but I am not sure that movie buffs are ready to buy their existing movies on yet another disk format.
		The BluRay drive will stop piracy of PS3 games since not many people users will have BluRay burners.
	www.8bitjoystick.com /archives/jake_post_e3_2005_predictions.php (567 words)

	AsiaInfo Services: BLURAY DISC COALITION@ HighBeam Research (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
		CHINA, Feb 20, 2003 (SinoCast via COMTEX) -- Some international DVD vendors are starting to upgrade the next generation DVD standard, just after Chinese DVD vendors paid for the patents.
		On February 16, 2003, the Bluray Disc Coalition formed by DVD vendors of Korea, Japan, and Europe decided to upgrade their DVD standard.
		The coalition includes Sony, Panasonic, Hitachi, Pioneer, Sharp, Samsung, LG, and Phillips etc. Toshiba and NEC did not participated.
	www.highbeam.com /library/doc0.asp?docid=1P1:71889624&refid=ink_tptd_np (154 words)

	Best Price: 3-Pack Verbatim 2.4x DVD+R Dual Layer Discs $18 at Amazon.com, Reviews & Discussion (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
		They're obsolete the moment the first HD or Bluray drive ships, and it will not be nearly as hard to find HD or bluray media.
		Both types depend on their media or they are pointless, so both camps will be shipping media like crazy.
		HD and Bluray can't relax and fall back on that.
	www.bensbargains.net /ktalk/1104597787,69531,.shtml (633 words)

	HD-DVD v BluRay Analysis - AV Forums
		While there are lasers developed for reading both DVD and BluRay, they are more complicated due to having to support widely differing NA and this pushes up the expense, and is stated in the article to be fair to the author.
		What he is refering to is the current set-top BluRay recorders, such as the E700, which use dual lasers which pushes up the cost (and significantly the size).
		Crucially it means all five current DVDR formats are now supported by at least one of the BluRay optical heads (DVD-R is the only DVDR format current supported by all three).
	www.avforums.com /forums/showthread.php?t=139511&page=4 (1383 words)

	Goro's Asian Movies and Stuff Blog
		BluRay and HD-DVD is going to be an interesting, if painful, format war for a while.
		Now, furthering my interest in BluRay is that TOHO and TOEI are backing BluRay.
		But, I do notice that DVDs don't necessarily look that great on my 50" DLP and if the BluRay players are (say) $500 or so and the discs are <$30, then there's a good chance I'll bite.
	evilninjax.typepad.com /evil_ninja_xs_asian_movie (4784 words)

	HD-DVD v BluRay Analysis - AV Forums
		Personally I like the fact that dvd blu-ray has the larger capacity of the 2 a 50GB for a dual layer single sided disk, with quad layer 100GB discs in development.
		A mass market will not develop for either of the new formats until major Hollywood studios are convinced that they can protect their content against piracy, according to analysts and industry watchers.
		No mention whether they believe such disk to be commercially viable but, if they are, at 200GB then BluRay should provide more than enough capacity for current HDTV and even UHDTV when that surfaces.
	www.avforums.com /forums/showthread.php?t=139511&page=4 (3059 words)

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