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	Canter & Siegel -- Facts, Info, and Encyclopedia article (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		Canter & Siegel were both (Migration into a place (especially migration to a country of which you are not a native in order to settle there)) immigration lawyers.
		Canter served as the chairperson of the Central Florida chapter of the American Immigration Lawyers Association in the early (The decade from 1980 to 1989) 1980s and as such was an ex officio member of the AILA's national board of governors.
		Canter was permanently (Click link for more info and facts about disbarred) disbarred from practicing law by the Supreme Court of Tennessee in 1997, partly because of his e-mail advertising campaign, though he had not actually practiced law since 1995.
	www.absoluteastronomy.com /encyclopedia/c/ca/canter_&_siegel.htm (981 words)

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		Canter and Siegel gained astonishing notoriety on the Internet in April by advertising their services as immigration lawyers on every one of thousands of "newsgroups", the electronic noticeboards on the Internet--a technique known as "spamming" (see "A spammer in the networks," 19 November 1994).
		Canter and Siegel seem to regard "geeks" in the way that some people view Filipino maids: plentiful, cheap, easily fired once they've done what you want--and not to be socialised with.
		Canter and Siegel counter that the violent reaction to their message comes from a small elite that has had the Usenet to itself for years, and resents other people using it to make money.
	kumo.swcp.com /synth/text/new_scientist_cantersiegel_review (2705 words)

	Hot Buttered Death: A decade of spam (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		This came from Canter and Siegel, a two person husband and wife law firm from Arizona, advertising their services providing assistance to people who wished to enter the US Green Card lottery.
		Canter and Siegel were mailbombed, and received immense amounts of abuse.
		Laurence Canter and Martha Siegel had been suspended from the Florida bar in 1987 for dishonesty, and in 1988 Canter had resigned permanently from the bar in Florida after being charged with "neglect, misrepresentation, misappropriation of client funds and perjury", and he didn't get many CNN interviews after this became widely known.
	hotbuttereddeath.ubersportingpundit.com /archives/005059.html (442 words)

	The infamous "green card lawyers" (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		Siegel was born in 1948, Canter in 1953, and both are law graduates of St. Mary's University of San Antonio.
		Canter, Siegel, and two other lawyers appeared at Internet Direct offices, threatening to sue for $250,000 unless their account was reinstated.
		Furr says Canter claimed "any form of likeness, or using our name or nickname in any form without our express written permission, which you do not have, is strictly prohibited." In the next email, Canter claimed C&S had been approached by "several large companies" interested in the rights to C&S T-shirts.
	lcs.www.media.mit.edu /people/foner/Essays/Civil-Liberties/Project/green-card-lawyers.html (2669 words)

	Canter_ (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		In the gallop, the gait is like the canter and feels the same, except the three-beat canter changes to a four-beat movement.
		At the full canter (or full gallop) and at the extremely collected canter, the impacts of the two diagonally related legs are sufficiently separated in time to be differentiated.
		Moderate use of this gait by an informed rider may be useful in the athletic training of the horse, but the horse that is still not sufficiently athletically developed to handle the difficult balancing act involved may try to compensate in ways that will be detrimental to its well being and to its training.
	www.condominiumwebsites.com /search.php?title=Canter_&_Siegel (2352 words)

	NY Times Q & A, October 16, 1994 (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		AURENCE A. CANTER and Martha S. Siegel have been the focus of criticism on computer networks since April 12, when they posted an advertisement offering their immigration legal services on thousands of Internet bulletin boards, called Usenet news groups.
		Siegel: I think the same group of people will continue to react that way, but it's important to understand that they are a small group.
		Canter: There were probably somewhere between 20,000 and 25,000 flames that we received but they were not from 20,000 to 25,000 people.
	www.l-ware.com /ny_times_q__a__october_16_1994.htm (694 words)

	Lex Networkia: Understanding the Internet Community (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		Siegel and Canter threatened and screamed about their treatment by Internet communities, claiming on CNN and in newspapers that their rights were violated.
		Siegel and Canter in turn also boasted that their spam made them at least $100,000 in new business, which I hope the Internal Revenue Service checked.
		Siegel and Canter's megaspam proved that Internet communities have their own imaginative means, devices, and ways to protect and defend itself.
	www.firstmonday.org /issues/issue4/valauskas (3164 words)

	BAD ATTITUDES: Add Three Inches to This, Counselor, and Stick It Where the Sun Don’t Shine (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		The mother and father of all spammers were indeed the husband-and-wife team of Martha S. Siegel and Laurence A. Canter, Tucson lawyers, and the tenth anniversary of their loathsome get is almost upon us.
		We all owe the boutique firm of Canter & Siegel a great debt, but unfortunately it is one we cannot repay without risking jail time.
		Counselor Canter has his own website instead, and on it is a page full of links to articles about his past glories.
	badattitudes.com /MT/archives/001029.html (363 words)

	Investor's Business Daily (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		The attacks on lawyers Laurence Canter and Martha Siegel for advertising their services on the Internet were swift and overwhelming.
		In Canter's and Siegel's case, a Norwegian hacker finally erased their message almost entirely from the Internet.
		Even Canter and Siegel say using the Web soon will become the best means of advertising on the Internet, as more people become equipped to log on to the Web.
	www.l-ware.com /investors_business_daily.htm (869 words)

	Fun_People Archive - 8 May - The American Way Raises its Ugly Head
		Cybersell is an spin-out of the law firm of Laurence Canter and Martha Siegel, who are partners of their immigration law firm, Canter and Siegel.
		Canter and Siegel's reticence on the ad-on-the-Internet idea has been fodder for several weeks worth of news and mailing-list discussion.
		Canter and Siegel have been the focus of intense criticism on several computer networks since April 12, when they posted an advertisement offering their legal services on thousands of Usenet bulletin boards, called news groups.
	www.langston.com /Fun_People/1994/1994ALT.html (820 words)

	Imagined Electronic Community (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		Canter and Siegel's text represents the Internet and the groups of people on it as part of nature, and both are seen as operating via certain immutable natural laws [6].
		Canter and Siegel argue that the deficiencies evidenced by natives stem from the fact that the Internet was for so long populated by academics and researchers, who made volunteerism and a "gift economy" the norm [9].
		Canter and Siegel are immigration lawyers from Phoenix who became notorious for spamming advertisements for their services all across the internet in 1993 (this became known as the "green card incident").
	www.firstmonday.org /issues/issue4_9/werry (8543 words)

	Computer underground Digest Sun Jun 18, 1995 Volume 7 : Issue 50 ISSN 1004-042X Editors: J
		She believed Canter and Siegel when they told her it was an honest and legitimate way to reach an audience.
		What she was not told, either by the client or by Canter and Siegel, was that the client received hostile responses, both on e-mail and to the telemarketing service who answered the telephone.
		Canter and Siegel only told her, she said, that there were some people on the Internet who believe that ads don't belong on the net, and that something new can upset some people.
	www.skepticfiles.org /hacker/cud750.htm (7572 words)

	The Battle for Usenet
		The precedent was set: for only the cost of Internet access, Canter and Siegel had advertised their law practice to hundreds of thousands of people.
		The two turned out to have fairly little computer savvy: a Phoenix programmer was hired by Canter & Siegel to write the mass-posting script (then curtly told to get lost), and they left their directories world-readable on their machines, so that anyone on the Internet could look in on them (a very basic unix oversight).
		Martha Siegel used her fifteen minutes of fame to lecture the general public about how the Internet should be regulated--adding insult to injury.
	www.skypoint.com /members/gimonca/usewar.html (2849 words)

	Wall Street Journal - Founding of Cybersell (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		Canter says that the law firm especially hopes to appeal to advertising agencies.
		Canter and Siegel's approach is heresy by the standards of "netiquette" that govern behavior on the quasi-public Internet.
		But Canter and Siegel calls that approach "a fl hole" because those ad-oriented bulletin boards would be "set apart like a pariah," says Ms.
	www.l-ware.com /wsj_cybersell.htm (514 words)

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		In April 1994, the now infamous Arizona husband-and-wife lawyers, Canter and Siegel, violated Internet norms by bombarding almost every Internet bulletin board with their offer to provide legal assistance to aliens in search of a green card.
		Canter and Siegel sparked no greater reaction than the response of Arnt Gulbrandsen in Norway.
		The Norwegian cancelbot that was loosed upon Canter and Siegel is more than just a footnote to their story.
	www.aaas.org /spp/egii/opeds/BASHKIN.HTM (1074 words)

	Canter & Siegel Story
		Their messages, along with a large number of genuinely interested responses to the advertisement, caused the computers at Canter & Siegel's commercial Internet providers to crash under the strain.
		She sees the dispute as part of a wider struggle between the new pro-commercial users of the Internet and the academic community who once dominated the network but are now losing control.
		The reaction against Canter & Siegel is a clear demonstration of what happens if an organisation oversteps the mark.
	www.coin.org.uk /roadshow/presentation/canter.html (4372 words)

	Why Lawyers Have a Bad Name: A Net Legend
		Laurence A Canter and Martha S Siegel have the distinction of being the most detested husband-and-wife team in the history of the Internet.
		Siegel doesn't attribute large negative responses like this to any legitimate reaction from a community that sees itself as being misrepresented.
		Siegel says she's "outraged" these people, "who are vicious and doing illegal acts, are treated very, very gently by the press.
	www.jamesfuqua.com /lawyers/jokes/canter.shtml (2937 words)

	Coalition for Networked Information
		Laurence A. Canter and his partner and wife, Martha Siegel, lawyers in Phoenix, Arizona used a freely available program to post their message to 5,000 or so newsgroups in 90 minutes, without adding a cent to the $30 they pay each month for their Internet connection.
		Canter's Internet provider pulled the plug on his account, netters had flooded his account with some 30,000 letters of protest, crashing the host computer 15 times.
		Canter bravely insisted he had done nothing wrong, he later agreed not to repeat his flame-inspiring feat.
	www.cni.org /projects/advertising/junk.html (1173 words)

	Dan's Opinion #2: Green Cards and Spam
		The husband-and-wife legal team of Laurence Canter and Martha Siegel shocked the net back in 1994 by posting their advertisement for immigration services (related to a U.S. green-card lottery) to 6,000 different newsgroups in blatant violation of the rules against off-topic postings, multiple postings, and (in many newsgroups) against commercial advertising in general.
		All of this shows Canter and Siegel to be slimeballs (in my opinion), but I wouldn't have considered them to be worth making any sort of fuss over, except for the latest insult from Martha Siegel.
		Siegel who could perhaps be counted on to show professional courtesy and overlook her transgressions against the net while throwing the book at all who retaliate against her (via hate e-mail, for instance).
	dan.tobias.name /controversies/archives/opinion2.html (665 words)

	normative.zusammenhaenge.at <- Fälle <- USA < ... (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		Canter also received a one year suspension to be served concurrently with a disbarment.
		Canter was fould guilty of numerous offenses of the Attorneys' Code of Professional Responsibility (Rule 8, Rules of the Supreme Court of Tennessee).
		Canter withheld funds from the paycheck of an employee Sandra Colvis to pay taxes and health insurance premiums, misappropriated funds to his own use and failed to pay them to the proper authorities.
	normative.zusammenhaenge.at /faelle/us/canter-siegel.html (7472 words)

	[No title] (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		Sending out unsolicited advertising such as Canter & Siegel's pitch, however, is still beyond the pale, although there are no binding regulations preventing such conduct.
		Canter & Siegel sent their latest ad Monday night to just about every Internet "news group," electronic bulletin boards on specific subjects ranging from computer programming to child care.
		The law firm of Canter & Siegel is your best lottery choice." Internet Direct, a year-old start-up with only five employees, posted an apology in a few news groups Tuesday, saying the service did not condone the law firm's action.
	www.improb.com /personal/gorin/ethics/cslaw-article.html (618 words)

	Contra the Green Card Lawyers
		If you read Martha Siegel's Viewpoint article last week, you might be asking, "Why should an advertisement cause all this fuss?" Well, the fuss had little to do with the content of the posts.
		The net-abuse FAQ, which discusses, among other things, the measures instituted in the wake of Canter and Siegel and their imitators.
		The Canter and Siegel Report, #1, #2, and #3.
	www.jaedworks.com /shoebox/coleslaw.html (1012 words)

	Spamming lawyer gets disbarred - Computerworld (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		Long before most people knew what unsolicited electronic mail was, long before the media had heard of Sanford Wallace, netizens nearly unanimously despised Canter & Siegel, a pair of lawyers who spammed thousands of Usenet newsgroups with ads promising to secure green cards for unregistered aliens.
		Canter, who has had offices in Tennessee, Arizona and California, is likely face reciprocal disciplinary action in other states, Hunt said, unless he can show precise reasons why this ruling shouldn't extend to those other jurisdictions.
		Canter has been roundly chastised online, on The Internet Blacklist of Internet Advertisers and on the Electronic Frontier Foundation's site, and his activities were the subject of media attention by mainstream media.
	www.computerworld.com /printthis/1997/0,4814,42740,00.html (291 words)

	, Attorney Advertising on the Internet by Jordan Rappaport
		Whether or not Canter & Siegel are to be believed, their actions clearly demonstrate why regulation of attorney advertising over the internet has fast become a hot issue.
		It is also interesting to note that although the on-line, as well as the legal community, did express their disapproval of the Canter and Siegel advertising strategy, Canter and Siegel claim that they received over 20,000 positive responses and that some of them even became clients.
		Whether or not Canter and Siegel are telling the truth is unclear.
	osaka.law.miami.edu /~froomkin/seminar/papers/rappaport.htm (6360 words)

	Electric Dreams #24: The Internet - Netiquette, flames and kill files (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		When, last April, the law firm of Canter and Siegel decided to advertise their services on the Internet, perceiving correctly that it is a large market of fairly intelligent people with a decent purchasing power, the response was typical of the Internet culture.
		Canter and Siegel did not behave in an approved manner - they disobeyed Net law, which is formulated not by committees but by general agreement.
		Canter and Siegel posted their little notice to some 5,000 news groups, violating rule number one of netiquette - don't make off-topic posts.
	dxm.org /dreams/dreams.cgi?number=24 (636 words)

	Spam, spam, wonderful spam (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		After that system crashed more than 15 times, the company terminated Canter and Siegel's account on the grounds that its actions were interfering with the service to its other clients.
		Canter and Siegel divorced in 1996, and Martha Siegel died in 2000.
		In 2002, Lawrence Canter was living in the San Francisco Bay Area, where CNET News.com interviewed him about his seminal role in the origins of spam.
	www.promit.com /services/spam.htm (2664 words)

	The Law of Spam
		Canter & Siegel have claimed that what they did was acceptable, since no laws prohibited their behavior.
		It is not as clear an issue as they would make it seem, considering that Canter & Siegel's advertisement intended to solicit clients and appeared in approximately 140 countries, including some countries that restrict lawyer solicitation.
		On the other hand, a great deal of effort was put into flushing out the true identity of the person who canceled the Scientology posts so that he or she could be reported to whoever provided him or her with Internet access in the hopes of terminating the cancel sender's access.
	www.loundy.com /CDLB/Spam.html (1510 words)

	Canter - canter.html (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		The methods employed by David Canter are similar to those employed by the FBI The main difference is that Canter is continually updating his database of
		Canter is the only horse magazine dedicated exclusively to the horse's role in world history and culture.
		To ask a horse to canter you squeeze gently with your lower legs and once the horse starts to move forward your legs should be relaxed.
	publicwindow.com /pw/canter.html (222 words)

	Amazon.ca: Books: How to Make a Fortune on the Internet (Updated) (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
		I had the unfortunate experience of being on the receiving end of many complaints when Canter and Siegel first burst onto the spamming scene in 1994, so I know a lot about the problems their marketing activities caused.
		Both Canter and Siegel lost their licenses to practice law in Florida after a particularly nasty dispute over some missing client funds.
		Eventually Canter was disbarred in Tennessee for email related misbehavior, and shortly thereafter, their marriage broke up, according to several news accounts.
	www.amazon.ca /exec/obidos/ASIN/0062734660 (704 words)

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