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  carpocrates   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
Because of this belief, Irenaeus says, they practice all things condemned by the Mosaic law, on the assumption that in order for the spirit to achieve gnosis, the soul ( psyche) had to live through "all" aspects of earthly life, and thus all kinds of vile and horrible things.
Carpocratians are claimed be an early sect of Christianity that has been corrupted by magic and sexual obscenity.
The Carpocratians also claimed to possess the only existing portrait of Jesus, a painting they claimed had been made by Pilate during his lifetime.
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 Wikipedia: Carpocrates
Carpocrates was an early Gnostic sometime the first hundred years A.D. His followers were called Carpocratians.
The most vivid account of Carpocrates and his followers comes from Irenaeus Against Heresies, where his followers were said to believe in transmigration of the soul, i.e.
And unless one proceeds through all of them, he said, and fulfils the will of all demons and angels, he cannot mount to the highest heaven or get by the principalities and authorities.
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 A Dictionary of Christian Biography and Literature to the End of the Sixth Century A.D., with an Account of the ...
Irenaeus counts Carpocratian doctrines and practices as means employed by Satan to discredit the Christian name among the heathen.
With respect to the Carpocratians, the primary authorities are Irenaeus (i.
he emphasizes the Carpocratian doctrine of the unity of the first principle, tells of emanations from that principle of angels and powers, gives a different version of the excellence of Jesus, and says that Carpocrates denied the resurrection of the body.
www.ccel.org /ccel/wace/biodict.Carpocrates.html   (1396 words)

  
 The Doctrine of Carpocrates
Epiphanes demonstrates that the Carpocratians were not entirely like later Gnostic schools, such as the Marcionites, Phibionites and the later Cathars, who despised worldly existence and therefore encouraged homosexuality as a sacred form of sexuality that did not add souls to the enslavement of mankind.
The Carpocratians had disturbingly revealed to the priest that the wisdom of their founder was based on the words of Jesus as preserved in "The Secret Gospel of Mark," a rough draft so to speak, of the final version of the Gospel of Mark contained in the Bible.
Through the close relationship of the Carpocratians and the ‘Companions of Antinous’ (which I suggest) perhaps the Carpocratians of Antinoopolis, who took up the religion of Antinous and fused it with their own system, were also given the same privileges.
www.antinopolis.org /carpocrates.html   (19164 words)

  
 Secret Gospel of Mark
The manuscript was discovered by Morton Smith in 1958 when he, as a graduate student of Columbia University, was cataloguing the manuscript collection of the Mar Saba Monastery south of Jerusalem.
Carpocratians were a Gnostic sect known for their belief in 30 gods, that fornication was no longer wrong and that man was imprisoned in an endless cycle of reincarnation by those evil creator angels.
The teaching of the Carpocratians is derived from this mixture.
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 apolo 48   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
CARPOCRATIANS : Followers of Carpoerates, an Alexandrian philosopher, who flourished during the reign of the Emperor Hadrian (117-138).
The Carpocratians held that everyone has two souls; believed in the transmigration of souls; maintained that the world was created by angels; denied the divinity of Christ, and advocated the practice of immorality as a means of union with God.
The principal purpose of the merger was to link the churches' headquarters organizations and to enable them to speak as one on social and political questions.
www.catholicapologetics.net /apolo_48.htm   (9121 words)

  
 Chapter 7 - Three Gnostic Sects
The Carpocratians were followers of Carpocrates, a Platonic philosopher, who incorporated some of the elements of the Christian religion into his system of philosophy.
In this way all souls are saved," etc. But while Irenæus calls the Carpocratians a heretical sect, and denounces some of their tenets, he had no hard words for their doctrine of man's final destiny.
Charles Bigg.) The Valentinians, Basilidians, Carpocratians, Manichæans, Marcionites and others were Christian Gnostics; but Clement, Origen and the great Alexandrians and their associates were Gnostic Christians.
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 ORMUS and the Grail Chalice: The Deep Things of SATAN.   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
A person might ask, :"Well, if the Carpocratians or the Frankists are so great, then why aren't they the rule and not the exception?" Well, probably, because the herd rules, and the herd is unable to live this way without adjustments to their mother-boards, and perhaps better software installations.
From there we shall go more in-depth on the Carpocratians (there may be a short READINGS segment attached to the present survey), and then proceed in the next segment to the Borborites as defined and described by Epiphanius in his most scandalizing piece of writing.
Basically the principal charge against the Carpocratians, and all the other Gnostic sects, is their disregard for the authority of the Church hierarchy.
www.antiqillum.com /texts/bg/Qadosh/qadosh084.htm   (5279 words)

  
 Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. II
He was the author of the jargon about monads,236 of which see Irenaeus; and from him comes the heresy of those subsequently known as Carpocratians.
The early disappearance of the Christian agapae may probably be attributed to the terrible abuse of the word here referred to, by the licentious Carpocratians.
He refutes the Carpocratians, also, in their slanders against the deacon Nicolas, showing that the Nicolaitans had abused his name and words.
www.godrules.net /library/fathers/anf02s62.htm   (2182 words)

  
 carpocratians   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
The Carpocratians were an early Christian sect who replaced spirit with flesh, indulging in sexual promiscuity within the context of the Christian faith.
Because of this, the Carpocratians could substitute their sexual promiscuity for Chrisitian intimacy within a counterfeit of Christian practice as it existed at the time.
As intimacy is generally not the dominant paradigm of the modern church, Christian singles do not attempt substitute promiscuity within the practices of the church, but offer it as an external addition.
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 The Secret Gospel of Mark   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
You did well in silencing the unspeakable teachings of the Carpocratians, for they are the "Wandering Stars" referred to in the prophecy, who wander from the narrow road of the commandments into the boundless abyss of the carnal and bodily sins.
James Randii, for instance, cites the passage as proof positive that Jesus was a homosexual, claiming this was the 'mystery of the kingdom' that he showed the young man during their night spent together.
Given Clement's revulsion at the sexual practices of the Carpocratians, it would be hard to imagine him turning a blind eye to any justification of such practices that might exist in the Secret Gospel itself.
www.mahatmarandy.com /sacrilege/SecretMark.htm   (7090 words)

  
 GOSPEL OF SOMETHING
He lived in all only seventeen years, and at Same in Cephallenia was honoured as a god.
He was educated by his father in the general education and in Platonism, and he was instructed in the knowledge of the Monad, which is the root-origin of the Carpocratians' heresy.
These, so they say, and certain other enthusiasts for the same wickednesses, gather together for feasts (I would not call their meeting an Agape), men and women together.
ccat.sas.upenn.edu /humm/Courses/NewTest/Resources/clementOnCarpocratians.html   (981 words)

  
 Jesus 8880   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
For these are the wandering stars referred to in the prophecy, who wander from the narrow road of the commandments into a boundless abyss of the carnal and bodily sins.
Thus, in sum, he prearranged matters, neither grudgingly nor incautiously, in my opinion, and dying, he left his composition to the church in Alexandria, where it even yet is most carefully guarded, being read only to those who are being initiated into the great mysteries.
To them, therefore, as I said above, one must never give way, nor, when they put forward their falsifications, should one concede that the secret Gospel is by Mark, but should even deny it on oath.
www.jesus8880.com /chapters/mk10v34x-secret-gospel/mar-saba-letter.htm   (800 words)

  
 Carpocrates and the Carpocratians   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
This is the teaching which Jesus himself gave to his disciples, "privately in a mystery," ordering them to disseminate it among the faithful ("the worthy and believing").
They claimed for themselves the power of ruling the world-builders: magic arts, exorcism, philters and love-potions, dreams and cures were at their command, and like other secret societies they had a special mark of recognition, which they burned with a hot iron on the back of the lobe of the right ear.
He says that Carpocrates had a son, Epiphanes, whose mother was Alexandria of Cephalonia; that this son became an author, died when seventeen years old, and was honored as a god at Same in Cephalonia.
www.ccel.org /s/schaff/encyc/encyc02/htm/iv.vi.cxxxv.htm   (430 words)

  
 More from Mr. Radi and my response to that
You would be real embarrassed if you only knew what they are believing on top of the things that you like about them.
You can read about the Basilidians and Carpocratians in some detail.
Simon of Cyrene not only carried his cross but was also mistakenly crucified, while the invisible Jesus stood by laughing." The question to ask is whether YOU view the Basilidians and the Carpocratians as authoritative.
answering-islam.org /Cross/theories2.html   (943 words)

  
 Secret Gospel of Mark
More specifically, in the letter Clement responds to claims by the Carpocratians (a Christian sub-cult) and resulting questions from "Theodore" (who had been recently debating the Carpocratians), as to whether Mark's Gospel states that Jesus engaged in sexual and homosexual activities.
The Carpocratians, who claimed to possess the "true" version of the Gospel of Mark, cite a much sexier interlude between Jesus and the young linen draped initiate.
But Clement, while admitting that the version of Mark available to the general public is not the true gospel and while admitting that the Carpocratians had indeed stolen a copy of the true gospel assures Theodore that the Carpocratians then added their own distortions and lies.
www.rotten.com /library/religion/bible/historical-construction/new-testament/secret-gospel-of-mark   (1965 words)

  
 Review of Smith's Secret Gospel of Mark by Petersen   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
Although the manuscript contains but a fragment of the original letter, it presents extensive comments about a previously known gnostic group, the Carpocratians, and their use of a previously unknown secret Gospel According to Mark, from which two passages are quoted.
Smith's two volumes, one heavy with intimidatingly brilliant scholarship (Harvard) and one autobiographical and semi-popular (Harper and Row), deal with the discovery, with the authenticity of the fragment and its quotations, and with a radically new picture of Jesus and early Christianity allegedly suggested by this evidence.
The last line preserved in the fragment suggests that what is missing contained a further and more "philosophical" explanation of the historical and textual matters contained in the first part.
www.christianorigins.com /smark-petersen.html   (3336 words)

  
 A Historical Introduction to the New Testament
The Carpocratians liked it because of its emphasis on secret teaching; followers of Basilides apparently used it to show that Simon of Cyrene, not Jesus, was crucified (reading Mark 15:21-4 with severe literalism).
According to a letter of Clement discovered by Morton Smith, the Carpocratians had their own version of the gospel, while the church of Alexandria used not only the ordinary version but also an esoteric document based upon it.
It is obvious that neither Matthew nor Luke regarded the gospel as fully satisfactory, for while they incorporated most of it in their own writings they did not hesitate to improve its style, its arrangement and its theological ideas.
www.religion-online.org /showchapter.asp?title=1116&C=1228   (2306 words)

  
 IIDB - Secret Mark: the state of the question   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
Wouldn’t the far more prudent thing for him to have done was say “Theo, dude, tell the Carpocratians they’re full of crap and what they’re calling the gospel is all hogwash.
According to the letter, Clement’s primary desire is to silence the Carpocratian’s claim that they have “true” Marcan material.
The only way the inclusion of any of the Carpocratian material makes sense is if the author of the letter wanted readers to know what it said.
www.iidb.org /vbb/showthread.php?t=99529   (5231 words)

  
 Facts in Relation to the History of Universalism.
From the time of the death of the apostle John, which happened about A. 100, to the year 150, the history of opinions entertained by Christians respecting the final destiny of the human race, is involved in much obscurity.
But little is known except that the doctrine of the final happiness of all men was held by the different sects of Gnostics, viz., the Basilidians, the Carpocratians, and the Valentinians.
And although these sects were regarded as heretics by the orthodox fathers, and although these fathers "warmly and bitterly attacked their respective systems in general," yet, "it does not appear that they ever selected the particular tenet of the salvation of all souls as obnoxious."
www.auburn.edu /~allenkc/guild3.html   (688 words)

  
 Probert Encyclopaedia: People and Peoples (Carm-Cars)   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
The name originates from politicians of the USA who tried to gain the votes of the Blacks and who carried no more property than might fill a carpet-bag.
The Carpocratians were a sect of Gnostics of the second century, so called from Carpocrates, a prominent teacher of gnosticism.
They maintained that only the soul of Christ went to heaven, that his body would have no resurrection and that the world was made by angels.
www.probertencyclopaedia.com /C30D.HTM   (392 words)

  
 AllRefer.com - Carpocrates (Philosophy, Biography) - Encyclopedia   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
Epiphanes wrote a treatise, On Justice, that advocated communal ownership of property, including women; he died, age 17, at Cephalonia and was long worshiped as a deity there.
The Carpocratians believed that men had formerly been united with the Absolute, had been corrupted, and would, by despising creation, be saved in this life or else later through successive transmigrations.
Jesus, they held, was but one of several wise men who had achieved deliverance.
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 clement secret mark   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
Thus, in sum, he prepared matters, neither grudgingly nor incautiously, in my opinion, and, dying, he left his composition to the church in 1, verso Alexandria, where it even yet is most carefully guarded, being read only to those who are being initiated into the great mysteries.
From this mixture is withdrawn off the teaching of the Carpocratians.
To them, therefore, as I said above, one must never give way ; nor, when they put forward their falsifications, should one concede that the secret Gospel is by Mark, but should even deny it on oath.
www.agapetae.org /secretmark.html   (823 words)

  
 Carpocrates, Alexandria/Egypt, Ancient Christian Church   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
While Clement can be sympathetic to aspects of gnosticism, he "loathed the Gnostics, not least the Carpocratians, for their fatalism and libertinism" (Frend 1984: 372).
Thus the implication of Carpocratian "egalitarianism" could include sexual promiscuity, for it was his son, Epiphanes, who had written the treatise "On Justice," which Clement criticized, precisely for the libertarian notion of sharing wives (Grant 1961b: 40; Carrington 1957: II.68-69).
The boy died at the age of seventeen, so that Clement also knew that he "was adored as a god at Sama in Cephallenia" where a temple had been built (Carrington 1957: II.69).
www.gospelcom.net /dacb/stories/egypt/carpocrates_.html   (1001 words)

  
 Antinomian Antics: Sabotaging the Matrix
To the Carpocratians, Jesus was a model of someone who had achieved total freedom of the soul – and since the source of Jesus’; power lay in His utter contempt for the angels’ created universe, anyone could become greater than Jesus by despising “things below” even more than He had.
[The Carpocratians] have reached such a pitch of madness that they say that it is in their power to do whatever is irreligious and impious, for they say that actions are good and bad only in accordance with human opinion.
Like many other Gnostic Christian groups, the Cainites believed the Earth we inhabit was a sort of cosmic prison or zoo, a labyrinth for the souls of the fallen and the lost ruled over by an incompetent and insane Demiurge.
www.v72.org /esoteric_antinomian.htm   (2667 words)

  
 From gmiller@netcom
Indeed, some of the Carpocrations believed that they were even 'stronger' than Jesus, and still others claimed superiority to his disciples, including Peter and Paul.
Among other things, the Carpocratians also taught the transmigration of souls and a libertine ethic.
The Carpocratians called themselves 'Christians' but their beliefs and actions were very heretical and bizarre.
www.christian-thinktank.com /qreinkr.html   (680 words)

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