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	Charmides - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Charmides was an Athenian statesman and one of the Thirty Tyrants who ruled Athens following its defeat in the Peloponnesian War.
		Uncle of Plato, Charmides appears in the Platonic dialogue bearing his name, as well as in Xenophon.
		This Charmides was not the same man as the father of the great Athenian sculptor Pheidias, also named Charmides.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Charmides (133 words)

	The Internet Classics Archive \| Charmides, or Temperance by Plato
		Charmides, he replied, is his name; he is my cousin, and the son of my uncle Glaucon: I rather think that you know him too, although he was not grown up at the time of your departure.
		Such, Charmides, I said, is the nature of the charm, which I learned when serving with the army from one of the physicians of the Thracian king Zamolxis, who are to be so skilful that they can even give immortality.
		Very good, Charmides, said Critias; if you do this I shall have a proof of your temperance, that is, if you allow yourself to be charmed by Socrates, and never desert him at all.
	classics.mit.edu /Plato/charmides.html (7049 words)

	Charmides (dialogue) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Charmides repeatedly misses the mark and the two of them never arrive at a satisfactory definition of this important concept, which is usually translated into English as "self-control", "restraint", or "temperance".
		Critias tells Socrates that Charmides is his cousin, son of his uncle Glaucon, and just then Charmides enters the scene and causes huge consternation in the crowd.
		Charmides' suggestion that sophrosne is self-knowledge spurs Socrates to a discussion of the relation between medicine and science.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Charmides_(dialogue) (1186 words)

	20th WCP: Socratic Paideia: How It Works and Why It So Often Fails
		In the Charmides, by contrast, the dramatic setting and content of the dialogue focus attention on the psychotherapeutic rather than the logical structure of the elenchus, and on the question of the "diseases" for which it might be the cure.
		Charmides exhibited such courage, when, after his first definition had been rejected and Socrates challenged him to offer another based on his own experience, the boy "paused and quite courageously (andrikos) investigated it with regard to himself" (160e6), and then articulated his second definition, that moderation was a sense of shame.
		Notwithstanding the fact that Charmides, like so many others, finally rejects him, it is clear that what is at stake in conversation with Socrates is not only the topic of this particular exchange, but the opportunity for other conversations and indeed for the whole rich social relationship of his educational-dialogical circle.
	www.bu.edu /wcp/Papers/Teac/TeacSchm.htm (3985 words)

	Charmides
		Charmides, he replied, is his name ; he is my cousin, and the son of my uncle Glaucon : I rather think that you know him too, although he was not grown up at the time of your departure.
		And he who taught me the cure and the charm at the same time added a special direction : “Let no one,” he said, “persuade you to cure the head, until he has first given you his soul to be cured by the charm.
		But for your sake, Charmides, I am very sorry — that you, having such beauty and such wisdom and temperance of soul, should have no profit or good in life from your wisdom and temperance.
	www.ac-nice.fr /philo/textes/Plato-Works/08-Charmides.htm (7385 words)

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		Charmides passed a sick man. The slaves had set down his litter, and he had stretched out his hands toward the temple and was praying.
		Charmides' eyes danced with joy at the beauty of the firm, round legs and the muscles moving in the shoulders.
		Charmides heard men all about him say: "A beautiful run!" "How easily he steps!" "We shall see him do something in the last heat." "Who is he?" And when the herald announced the name of the winner, the benches buzzed with, "Creon, Creon, son of Menon the Athenian." Four more groups were called and ran.
	www.ibiblio.org /pub/docs/books/gutenberg/9/6/2/9626/old/7bct210.txt (10705 words)

	The Miracle of Sophrosune
		In each case Socrates, in his inimitable and aggravatingly absurd style of argument, rejects their definitions as fallacious or inadequate; he ends the dialogue professing that he has been "utterly defeated," having "failed to discover what that is to which the lawgiver gave this name of 'sophrosune'.
		Charmides is trying to capture this aspect of 'sophrosune' in his first definition, when he defines 'sophrosune' as 'quietness' ['hesuchia'].
		Charmides is trying to capture this aspect in his second definition.
	www.mckenziestudycenter.org /theology/articles/sophro.html (10172 words)

	Trinummus home Plautus (Dramata)
		Charmides inquires after the swindler’s business and learns that he means to deliver letters to both Callicles and Lesbonicus along with 1000 gold coins allegedly from Charmides.
		Charmides, in a humorous exchange with the swindler, tricks him into exposing himself as a fraud since he does not realize he is, in fact, speaking with Charmides.
		Lysiteles encounters Charmides and Callicles, and it is agreed upon that he will marry Charmides's daughter and accept the 1000 gold pieces as her dowry.
	home.att.net /~c.c.major/pla/trinummus.html (800 words)

	SparkNotes: Charmides: Section 1 (153a–157c)
		Socrates, beginning to feel less nervous now, tells Charmides that he received this "charm" from one of the mystical physicians to the king of Thrace (Zalmoxis), physicians he encountered in the army.
		Thus, Edith Hamilton and Huntington Cairns, in their brief preface to the Charmides (in the 1994 Princeton edition of the dialogues), note simply that the argumentation of the dialogue is "inferior" to the Lysis and the Laches, neither of which is itself much good as far as cogent argumentation goes.
		The Charmides recommends such a reading from the outset, with Socrates positioned not only as a lover of wisdom but also as a lover of the arts and the follies of love (the first things he asks about after years in the army are the "state of philosophy" and the beauty of the youths).
	www.sparknotes.com /philosophy/charmides/section1.html (1275 words)

	[No title] (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
		Certainly, I know him, I said, for he was remarkable even then when he was still a child, and I should imagine that by this time he must be almost a young man. You will see, he said, in a moment what progress he has made and what he is like.
		Nay, he replied, I certainly thought him a very wise man. Then I am quite certain that he put forth his definition as a riddle, thinking that no one would know the meaning of the words "doing his own business." I dare say, he replied.
		We are not conspiring, said Charmides, we have conspired already.
	graduate.gradsch.uga.edu /archive/Plato/Charmides.txt (6999 words)

	Bryn Mawr Classical Review 1998.08.16
		This view of Charmides is not unusual, nor is S.'s treatment of Critias as a product of sophistic who "identifies the good with what benefits himself, in the sense of a calculating, narrow egoism" (34).
		While Charmides defers to tradition and refuses to take on the burden of thinking for himself, Critias explicitly rejects the divine origin of traditional values and embraces a "calculating, dominating rationality" (35).
		Indeed, when he contrasts the position of the Charmides with that of the Republic, S. suggests that the latter dialogue, in recognizing something like a science of the good, embraces a certain sort of "epistemic closure" that the Socratic ideal of the Charmides avoids (159, and Appendix B generally).
	ccat.sas.upenn.edu /bmcr/1998/1998-08-16.html (2866 words)

	Two Cancelled Stanzas of "Charmides"
		For the fourth and fifth editions some two or three dozen minor changes were made which were for the most part clearly authorial rephrasings of single lines or substitutions of single words.
		In "Charmides" Wilde pushes Victorian tolerance to the limit by telling the story of a young Greek sailor who stole into Athena's shrine and ravished her image.
		Wilde, rather than proposing the cancellations himself, may have been advised that the two stanzas were too provocative to stand, or Bogue may have insisted on the omissions having come under pressure from a third party or parties.
	www.victorianweb.org /victorian/authors/wilde/alexis1.html (574 words)

	Plato, Dialogues, vol. 1 - Jowett’s Prefaces, Charmides, Lysis, Laches, Protagoras, Euthydemus, Cratylus, ... (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
		Nor in Charmides himself do we find any resemblance to the Charmides of history, except, perhaps, the modest and retiring nature which, according to Xenophon, at one time of his life prevented him from speaking in the Assembly (Mem.
		I took the place which he assigned to me, by the side of Critias the son of Callaeschrus, and when I had saluted him and the rest of the company, I told them the news from the army, and answered their several enquiries.
		Charmides had heard this from Critias, who denies that he said it.
	oll.libertyfund.org /Home3/HTML.php?recordID=0131.01 (14105 words)

	murphy.html.doc (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
		From a formal standpoint, the Charmides is not a dialogue.
		His self-awareness models the dimension of external intentionality that self-knowledge must bring with it if it is not to turn out empty, as it will in Critias’ formulation, “knowledge of knowledge.” We recognize prolepsis when we later reach analepsis.
		When Charmides asks to follow Socrates (176a-c), the “charm” and the seduction topoi remind us of the diegetic intrusion of 155c-e.
	www.apaclassics.org /AnnualMeeting/03mtg/abstracts/murphy.html (494 words)

	Nicholas RYNEARSON
		The main focus is the intersection of the critical reading of poetry with self-knowledge and self-presentation in Socrates’; citation of the lyric poet Cydias in the Charmides.
		What kind of reader is Socrates and how does his reading of Cydias relate to his understanding of his own desire for Charmides and to his first-person narration of the dialogue as a whole?
		This is the approach to Simonides in the Protagoras, for example, and to the ‘wise men and women of old’, poets or prose writers, in the Phaedrus.
	www.apaclassics.org /AnnualMeeting/04mtg/abstracts/rynearson.html (464 words)

	Amazon.com: Charmides: Books: Plato,Thoams G. West,Grace Starry West (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
		The young philosopher Charmides, whose beauty initially overwhelms Socrates, first says that temperance consists of doing things in an orderly and quiet way; when Socrates points out the inadequacy of such a definition, Charmides says that temperance is a form of modesty.
		In the end, no satisfactory definition of temperance is arrived at, although one is left with the impression that temperance has much to do with the knowledge of good and evil.
		Charmides is a rather short dialogue, but I found it to be somewhat hard to follow as it sometimes broke down into wild abstractions.
	www.amazon.com /Charmides-Plato/dp/0872200108 (853 words)

	PLATO - CHARMIDES, OR TEMPERANCE 380 BC - FULL TEXT - IN TWO WEBPAGE PARTS - PART ONE - Translated by Benjamin Jowett ...
		PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: SOCRATES, who is the narrator; CHARMIDES; CHAEREPHON; CRITIAS.
		I think, he said, Socrates, that you are right.
		I have no particular drift, but I wish that you would tell me whether a physician who cures a patient may do good to himself and good to another also?
	evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com /plato_charmides01.htm (3352 words)

	Poetry X » Poetry Archives » Oscar Wilde » "Charmides I"
		He was a Grecian lad, who coming home With pulpy figs and wine from Sicily Stood at his galley’s prow, and let the foam Blow through his crisp brown curls unconsciously, And holding wave and wind in boy’s despite Peered from his dripping seat across the wet and stormy night.
		And the mast shuddered as the gaunt owl flew With mocking hoots after the wrathful Queen, And the old pilot bade the trembling crew Hoist the big sail, and told how he had seen Close to the stern a dim and giant form, And like a dipping swallow the stout ship dashed through the storm.
		And no man dared to speak of Charmides Deeming that he some evil thing had wrought, And when they reached the strait Symplegades They beached their galley on the shore, and sought The toll-gate of the city hastily, And in the market showed their brown and pictured pottery.
	poetry.poetryx.com /poems/8284 (1311 words)

	Plato's dialogues - 1st tetralogy : the Start of the Quest (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
		To make it clear that we are only at the beginning, there is an atmosphere of juvenile freshness in these three dialogues, as there is also in the Alcibiades, though it is less visible there due to the lack of staging indications.
		And in the Charmides, young Charmides shares center stage with his older cousin Critias, whose wisdom is put to a test.
		With the Charmides, we reach that part of the soul where we might find rest and get all the answers to our questions, except that it is too early and we are with the wrong people.
	plato-dialogues.org /tetra_1/tetra_1.htm (3615 words)

	Plato's Charmides
		Charmides, with whom Socrates talks in the kindly spirit of an elder.
		Charmides, he replied, is his name; he is my cousin, and the son of my
		Charmides blushed, and the blush heightened his beauty, for modesty is
	www.ancienttexts.org /library/greek/plato/charmides.html (11499 words)

	SOCRATES: Prudence and Courage by Sanderson Beck
		Those sitting with Critias and Socrates try to make a place for Charmides by pushing at their neighbors, while the ones on each end of the bench are pushed right off, one standing up and the other falling on the ground.
		Charmides sits down between Critias and Socrates, as the others gather around.
		Charmides, this man has a cure for your headache.
	www.san.beck.org /SOC3-Prudence.html (5040 words)

	Charmides Class (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
		The ironies in a dialogue about temperance: 1) Charmides is supposedly temperate, but cannot explain temperance; 2) Charmides and Critias will later play significant roles in the reign of the Thirty Tyrants set up by Sparta to rule Athens after her defeat.
		Critias suggests that temperance rules over the science of good and evil, but Socrates points out that every benefit they have discussed is produced by some particular science like medecine rather than the "science of sciences" that temperance is supposed to be, and there is no benefit to be gotten from temperance (174c-175b)
		Conclusion of the dialogue: none of the characters in the dialogue know what temperance is. Charmides agrees, on Critias's trong recommendation, to be charmed by Socrates every day until he finds out what temperance is (175b-end).
	www.uvm.edu /~jbailly/courses/Socrates/Notes/Charmides.html (699 words)

	Plato, Charmides ToC: The Online Library of Liberty
		You have selected Plato's, Charmides which was published in 387-347 BC Here is some information about the author.
		Very likely Charmides has no need of the charm, and Socrates is a fool who is incapable of reasoning.
		But for your sake, Charmides, I am very sorry—that you, having such beauty and such wisdom and temperance of soul, should have no profit or good in life from your wisdom and temperance.
	oll.libertyfund.org /Home3/HTML-voice.php?recordID=0289 (9612 words)

	Plato - Charmides - Philosophy Index
		Such, Charmides, I said, is the nature of the charm, which I learned when serving with the army from one of the physicians of the Thracian king Zamolxis, who are said to be so skilful that they can even give immortality.
		Please, therefore, to inform me whether you admit the truth of what Critias has been saying;--have you or have you not this quality of temperance?
		Think over all this, and, like a brave youth, tell me--What is temperance?
	www.philosophy-index.com /plato/charmides (7211 words)

	Advanced Strategy Discussion - Spring
		[7:33:05 PM] yeah but a row of solar is just 1 command
		[7:33:14 PM] i dont see where the other 19 are coming from
		[7:36:41 PM] and i get harassed too easily at beginning.
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	Charmides, or Temperance - Adobe Reader PDF eBook - Get eBooks!
		This is a dialogue in which Socrates asks Charmids to explain his conception of the modesty which he possesses.
		The dialogue leads to a confession of ignorance.
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	Harvard University Press: Charmides. Alcibiades 1 & 2. Hipparchus. The Lovers. Theages. Minos. Epinomis by Plato
		Linguistic tests including those of computer science still try to establish the order of his extant philosophical dialogues, written in splendid prose and revealing Socrates' mind fused with Plato's thought.
		In Laches, Charmides, and Lysis, Socrates and others discuss separate ethical conceptions.
		Protagoras, Ion, and Meno discuss whether righteousness can be taught.
	www.hup.harvard.edu /catalog/L201.html (347 words)

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