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	Comma Johanneum
		The Comma also appears about the time the Germanic tribes were overrunning the empire, namely the Visigoths and the Vandals, who were also Arians, and who were also overrunning Spain and North Africa where the Comma first appears.
		If he knew of the Comma this is very unusual in light of his normally strong theological emphasis on the relationship between the Father, the Word and the Spirit.
		An apparent quotation of the Comma but the verses are switched, the word "flesh" appears in the place of the word "Spirit" and the three are placed "in Christ Jesus." Priscillian was executed as a Manichean heretic.
	www.angelfire.com /space/thegospeltruth/trinity/verses/CommaJohanneum.html (7114 words)

	The Comma Johanneum Again - Pros Apologian
		Someone was asking for information on the topic as a lady in a Bible study had "freaked out" to discover the variant.
		Even citing such manuscripts without even attempting to make an argument that they have any connection to the ancient text at all is embarrassing.
		If Holland had wished to be taken seriously in such a statement, he would have to at least note the ancient nature of the textual data used by the Critical Text and then tried, somehow, to explain how these texts are at all relevant in light of these facts.
	www.aomin.org /index.php?itemid=1275 (957 words)

	COMMA JOHANNEUM : Encyclopedia Entry
		The Comma Johanneum is a comma, or short clause, present in most translations of the First Epistle of John published from 1522 until the latter part of the nineteenth century, owing to the widespread use of the third edition of the Textus Receptus (TR) as the sole source for translation.
		The central figure in the sixteenth-century history of the Comma Johanneum is Desiderius Erasmus, a theologian and humanist whose writings prefigured and inspired Martin Luther.
		Three decades later, on 2 June 1927, Pope Pius XI decreed that the Comma Johanneum was open to dispute.
	bibleocean.com /OmniDefinition/Comma_Johanneum (2344 words)

	bible.org: The Comma Johanneum and Cyprian
		This would, of course, be significant, for Cyprian lived in the third century; he would effectively be the earliest known writer to quote the Comma Johanneum.
		Thus, that Cyprian interpreted 1 John 5:7-8 to refer to the Trinity is likely; but that he saw the Trinitarian formula in the text is rather unlikely.
		Further, one of the great historical problems of regarding the Comma as authentic is how it escaped all Greek witnesses for a millennium and a half.
	www.bible.org /page.php?page_id=1185 (675 words)

	Defending the Faith with a Broken Sword – Part 3 : ChristianCourier.com
		The disputed portion of 1 John 5:7 is known as the Comma Johanneum.
		The Comma Johanneum is quoted by none of the Greek Fathers, who had they been aware of it, surely would have employed it in their debates with the anti-trinitarians of the post-apostolic age.
		The passage is absent from the manuscripts of all the ancient versions into which the Greek had been translated, e.g., Syriac, Coptic, Ethiopic, Arabic, and the Old Latin, and the Vulgate (in their early forms).
	www.christiancourier.com /archives/brokenSword_3.htm (1597 words)

	Comma Usage (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-26)
		Serial comma - The serial comma (also known as the Oxford comma or Harvard comma) is the comma used immediately before a grammatical conjunction (nearly always and or or) that precedes the last item in a list of three or more items.
		Comma Johanneum - The Comma Johanneum is a comma, or short clause, present in most translations of the First Epistle of John published from 1522 until the latter part of the nineteenth century, owing to the widespread use of the third edition of the Textus Receptus (TR) as the sole...
		Holdrian comma - The Holdrian comma, also called Holder's comma, and sometimes the Arabian comma, is a small musical interval of 22.6415 cents, equal to one step of 53 equal temperament, or \sqrt[53]{2}.
	graphicscard.vvvvvv3.com /commausage.html (424 words)

	Comma Johanneum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		The Comma Johanneum is a comma, or short clause, present in most translations of the First Epistle of John published from 1522 until the latter part of the nineteenth century, owing to the widespread use of the third edition of the Textus Receptus (TR) as the sole source for translation.
		The central figure in the sixteenth-century history of the Comma Johanneum is Desiderius Erasmus, a theologian and humanist whose writings prefigured and inspired Martin Luther.
		Three decades later, on 2 June 1927, Pope Pius XI decreed that the Comma Johanneum was open to dispute.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Comma_Johanneum (2374 words)

	THE TEXTUAL PROBLEM IN 1 JOHN 5:7-8
		The Trinitarian formula (known as the Comma Johanneum) made its way into the third edition of Erasmus’ Greek NT (1522) because of pressure from the Catholic Church.
		Modern advocates of the Textus Receptus and KJV generally argue for the inclusion of the Comma Johanneum on the basis of heretical motivation by scribes who did not include it.
		Unfortunately, for many, the Comma and other similar passages have become such emotional baggage that is dragged around whenever the Bible is read that a knee-jerk reaction and ad hominem argumentation becomes the first and only way that they can process this issue.
	www.kjvonly.org /other/wallace_text_prob.htm (1072 words)

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		But be that as it may, it is important to note that this is completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand: the Johannean Comma is not included in the Syrian/Byzantine --or any other-- text.
		When Erasmus was :preparing a critical Greek text in 1516 he omitted the addition, since :it wasn't in any Greek texts available to him, even the relatively :late ones he had available.
		Now this is not to argue that the Comma has any place in the Greek manuscript tradition or that the manuscript was not made to order for this purpose; only that this particular detail in its history may have acquired a bit of extraneous folklore.
	geneva.rutgers.edu /src/faq/comma.txt (2807 words)

	Revelations 22:18-19 and the Comma Johanneum: Oops! - My SPIP site (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-26)
		None of the Greek Fathers made use of the Comma, and the Comma is absent from the earliest texts that the Greek had been translated into; in fact, the earliest known instance of the Comma is in a 4th century piece entitled
		In 1927, Pope Pius XI officially declared that the Comma was open for dispute [“Comma Johanneum”].
		In either case, the Comma was the work of human hands and not the work of God; as such, everyone involved in the process should have come under the condemnation espoused in Revelations had 22:18-19 applied to the entire Bible.
	www.fstdt.com /weekly/article.php?id_article=171 (1072 words)

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		It is interesting to note that one of the earliest allusions to the Johannine Comma in church history is promulgated in connection to the thematic statement made by the Lord in John 10:30.
		For example, if the Comma is omitted, verse 6 and verse 8 are thrown together, "which gives a very bald, awkward, and meaningless repetition of the Spirit's witness twice in immediate succession."[20]Furthermore, the omission causes the concluding phrase of verse 8 (and these three agree in one) to contain an unintelligible reference.
		The Comma, however, was not attacked by the Arians and the Catholic bishops (302 of them) were exiled to different parts of Africa, exposed to the insults of their enemies, and carefully deprived of all temporal and spiritual comforts of life.
	www.jesus-is-savior.com /Bible/1john57-exegesis.htm (12806 words)

	Johannine Comma - The PuritanBoard (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-26)
		Certainly, the objection to the Comma cannot be on the grounds of false doctrine.
		If the Comma is allowed on "textual grounds" (whatever they are!) then to be consistent we should allow all the additions in the Old Latin, and Codex Bezae, and thus finish up with a very different text from even the Majority (Byzantine) Text.
		That the Comma is found in the margin of some Greek texts may be the result of an editor actually correcting the copy by writing in the full text.
	www.soluschristus.com /showthread.php?p=214054 (4923 words)

	The Johannine Comma - TheologyWeb Campus
		The Comma proves the doctrine of the Holy Trinity — that "There are three persons in the Godhead: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one God, the same in substance, equal in power and glory" (Westminster Shorter Catechism, Q 6).
		Of the 8 Greek manuscripts with the comma, 4 have it in the margin, 4 have it in the text.
		I see the Johannine Comma issue as a perfect example of a passage which is left out, because it appears in the text of only 4 manuscripts, as well as the margins of 4 others.
	www.theologyweb.com /campus/showthread.php?t=7305 (3500 words)

	wallace
		This would, of course, be significant, for Cyprian lived in the third century; he would effectively be the earliest known writer to quote the Comma Johanneum.
		Further, one of the great historical problems of regarding the Comma as authentic is how it escaped all Greek witnesses for a millennium and a half.
		The Comma is in fact found in some of the Armenian manuscripts.
	home.carolina.rr.com /theshuecrew/wallace.html (2347 words)

	The Johannine Comma-- Dr. Khoo (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-26)
		He wrote, "Erasmus promised that he would insert the Comma Johanneum, as it is called, in future editions if a single Greek manuscript could be found that contained the passage.
		It has been suggested that the Johannine Comma did not come from the apostle John himself but from an unknown person who invented and inserted it into 1 John 5 so that Christianity would have a clear Trinitarian proof text.
		There is nothing in the Johannine Comma that goes against the fundamentals of the Christian faith.
	www.blessedquietness.com /journal/resource/johanninecommakhoo.htm (875 words)

	"And These Three Are One" A Case For the Authenticity of 1 John 5:7-8
		The Comma is also structurally important with reference to verse 9.I John 5:7 describes the witness of God; I John 5:8 describes the witness of men."If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater" (5:9).Without the Comma, 5:9 has no antecedent and consequently, makes no sense.
		In the realm of rhetorical criticism, the Johannine Comma seems to conform to the Apostle John's literary style.As far as tone is concerned, "there reigns throughout the Epistle a firm and manly tone, the perfect opposite of all effeminate and sentimental enthusiasm" (e.g.
		Therefore, to deny the authenticity of the Johannine Comma is in a sense to deny Baptist heritage.
	www.ovrlnd.com /Bible/casefor1john57.html (5852 words)

	Does a Clear, Biblical Proof Text Exist for the Doctrine of the Trinity? (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-26)
		The Comma proves the doctrine of the Holy Trinity that "There are three persons in the Godhead: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one God, the same in substance, equal in power and glory"
		Comma Johanneum, as it is called, in future editions if a single Greek manuscript could be found that contained the passage.
		It has been suggested that the Johannine Comma did not come from the apostle John himself but from an unknown person who invented and inserted it into I John 5 so that Christianity would have a clear Trinitarian proof text.
	www.fundamentalbiblechurch.org /Foundation/fbcdoesa.htm (1037 words)

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		The manuscripts cited indicate the lateness of the Comma and suggest that its source was Latin.
		What is found as the possible origin of the Comma, or at least one of the first uses of it, is in Priscillian's work, Liber apologeticus.
		In other words, it is not impossible that the Johannine Comma was one of those few true readings of the Latin Vulgate not occurring in the traditional text but incorporated into the Textus Receptus under the guiding providence of God.
	library.sebts.edu /smadden/Cross/comma.htm (2464 words)

	Comma - The real meaning from Timesharetalk wikipedia (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-26)
		Comma - The real meaning from Timesharetalk wikipedia
		Comma (character), a special sequence in line coding.
		This disambiguation page lists articles associated with the same title.
	www.timesharetalk.co.uk /wiki.asp?k=Comma (79 words)

	Appendix 5
		And there are three that bear witness in earth”), the infamous Comma Johanneum, has been known in the English-speaking world through the King James translation.
		He argued that he did not put in the Comma because he found no Greek MSS that included it.
		The insertion within 1 John 5:7-8 was omitted completely by the British Committee in the Revised Version of 1881-1885, and by the American Committee in the American Standard Version of 1901.
	www.geocities.com /fdocc3/appendix5.htm (4757 words)

	Johannine comma - Theopedia (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-26)
		The Johannine comma, as it is called, is a sequence of extra words in 1 John 5:7-8 which appear in some early printed Greek texts (notably those of Erasmus), later versions of the Latin Vulgate, and in the King James Version of the Bible.
		"Erasmus promised that he would insert the Comma Johanneum, as it is called, in future editions if a single Greek manuscript could be found that contained the passage.
		In A History of the Debate over 1 John 5:7,8, Michael Maynard records that H.J. de Jonge, the Dean of the Faculty of Theology at Rijksuniversiteit (Leiden, Netherlands), a recognized specialist in Erasmian studies, refuted the myth of a promise in 1980, stating that Metzger's view on Erasmus' promise "has no foundation in Erasmus' work.
	theopedia.com /Johannine_comma (830 words)

	BIBLE STUDY MANUALS: 1 JOHN 5:1-8
		They are often called 'The Johannine Comma' and they became part of the KJV when they were adopted by the translators of the first edition of 1611.
		Erasmus had been criticized because his first and second editions did not contain the famous “heavenly witnesses” passage of 1 John 5:7b–8a (Comma Johanneum), which was in manuscripts of the Vulgate.
		De Jonge suggests that Erasmus included the Comma Johanneum because he did not want his reputation ruined over a minor detail in the Greek text that might prevent his Latin translation from receiving wide distribution.
	www.biblestudymanuals.net /1jn5v8.htm (3074 words)

	1 John 5:7
		The Trinitarian formula (known as the Comma Johanneum) made its way into the third edition of Erasmus' Greek NT because of pressure from the Catholic Church.
		Further, these advocates argue theologically from the position of divine preservation: since this verse is in the TR, it must be original.
		Thus, the Comma Johanneum has been a battleground for English-speaking Christians more than for others." This is the footnote accompanying 1 John 5:7 in the NET Bible.
	www.godglorified.com /1_john_57.htm (2879 words)

	» ‘Misquoting Jesus’ in the Washington Post
		It is a cornerstone of Christian theology, and this is the only place where it is spelled out in the entire Bible — but it appears to have been added to the text centuries later, by an unknown scribe.
		The text in question is 1 John 5:7, the so-called Comma Johanneum (a.k.a.
		My well meaning friend was blown away because he had relied so heavily on this text.
	www.dennyburk.com /?p=234 (680 words)

	Bibliography of Textual Criticism "E"
		In his third edition (1522) Erasmus inserted the so-called Comma Johanneum in 1 John 5:7, not because he believed it to be authentic, but in order to "take away the handle for calumniating him which had been afforded by his honestly following his MSS.
		For a full discussion of the pressure Erasmus was under to insert the Comma against his better judgment see H.J. de Jonge, 'Erasmus and the Comma Johanneum,' Ephemerides Theologicae Lovanienses 56 [1980], pp.
		The fourth edition of 1527 gave a generally improved text, in which Erasmus adopted many readings of the Complutensian Polyglot (see Stunica 1522) for the book of Revelation, and also included a third column giving the traditional text of the Vulgate beside his own Latin version.
	www.bible-researcher.com /bib-e.html (2884 words)

	ø 2006 » July >> Bible Study at Church Hopping ø
		But for a little while it was the inerrant Word of God plus a little bit from one of us.
		The Comma Johanneum can be found mainly in the New King James and plain old King James Bibles.
		Most other modern translations leave the bold part out because oddly enough it is not found in most Greek manuscripts.
	www.churchhopping.com /2006/07 (560 words)

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