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  How are the mighty fallen - Military Photos
None of you westerners will ever get it but dedovschina works and it is there to stay, point.
So think of it as you please but dedovschina is here to stay because it teaches/forcefully turns egocentrical civilian moma-boy disrespectfull and spoiled teenagers itnto teamplayers, it teaches them to share and perform unappealing but necessary duties/tasks for the greater (team's) good.
I'm not quite sure what Dedovschina is (conscription?) but I would agree with you that "egocentrical civilian moma-boy disrespectfull and spoiled teenagers itnto teamplayers, it teaches them to share and perform unappealing but necessary duties/tasks for the greater (team's) good" and that these things are imperative to have if you are in the military.
www.militaryphotos.net /forums/showthread.php?t=49533   (3383 words)

  
 You're in the Army Now | Progressive U
Dedovschina is a period of torture that lasts as long as your army stay, often from Day 1 to demobilization, and does not only include torture, but various forms of slavery, too.
Dedovschina - "grandfathery" - in layman's terms, is a group of career soldiers, mostly of age, who pick on newbies for derision or services.
There's the ever-popular example of a young kid who was drafted and who was forced, by convention of dedovschina, to build a summerhouse for his colonel.
www.progressiveu.org /145015-youre-in-the-army-now   (940 words)

  
 ::: Star Weekend Magazine :::   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-19)
Given that military service in Russia is known for its brutality, there is even a special option for those who want a taste of the truly authentic i.e.
dedovschina (the Russian form of hazing and bullying which drives many servicemen to suicide every year).
The holidays run from one to 10 days and there is a detailed price list of activities, with a basic 10-day "tour of duty" costing around £400.
www.thedailystar.net /magazine/2005/08/02/food.htm   (1054 words)

  
 Russia, Professional Military - CDI RW 15 October 2004
At the root of these attitudes lies the unpopularity of the conflict in Chechnya, viewed by many young Russian men as being beyond the interests and cares of ordinary Russians.
Deeper still, despite the efforts of the security elites to reassure people that barracks and infrastructure will be built and modernized to standards in keeping with professionalizing the army, there are continued concerns over institutionalized bullying or dedovschina within the very culture of the barracks.
Curing this problem requires a wholesale shift in attitudes within Russia' planning staffs, combined with systematic efforts to root out this cancer at the heart of a failing manning system.
www.cdi.org /russia/326-17.cfm   (654 words)

  
 The Moscow News
Because, like I said, he will never have to rack his brains about keeping his first-borns out of the Army, he probably doesn't know or care about the latest Levada poll, which shows that Russians are more afraid of their kids getting beaten to death in the barracks than blasted to pieces in Chechnya.
According to a report by Human Rights Watch, each year about 10 conscripts are killed in hazing incidents (although dedovschina, with its origins in the Gulag system, is something a lot more brutal than initiation rituals), while hundreds of thousands of new arrivals are faced with it each year.
Combine this with our typically Russian "don't know, don't care, I'm not responsible" attitude among officers and military doctors like the ones that were supposed to treat Private Sychev when he developed gangrene from the beatings, and you've got a recipe for national suicide.
english.mn.ru /english/issue.php?2006-4-10   (527 words)

  
 Women Fight to Be Heard In Chechen War Dialogue
The maternal agenda and the idea of protecting grown-up sons may look like a strange "Russian phenomenon" to an outsider, but the movement has become a campaign for human rights, peace and military reform.
Russian mothers have always cried when sending their sons off to the army, because military service meant poor nutrition, chronic hunger, poor health care, serious diseases, beatings and various kinds of humiliation by older soldiers (dedovschina).
Last year several soldiers were officially reported dead of hunger in a military camp on an isolated island in the Far East.
www.isar.org /pubs/ST/Chechwomen44.html   (1075 words)

  
 Video of russian soldiers "breaking in" ceremony. - Page 4 - Military Photos
"Dedovschina" always existed in the Soviet/Russian military ever since Peter the Great times and chances are always will be there, it is part of the equasion.
"Dedovschina" is meant to expose "weak lings" and shape them into soldiers, it simply makes people tougher because no one wants to go in a combat with a momma's boy and a wuss right next to them...
It is very complicated topic and there are arguements for and against it but nevertheless, like I have said before, it is part of the Russian military.
www.militaryphotos.net /forums/showthread.php?t=6562&page=4   (1481 words)

  
 BT Research - Conscription   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-19)
As a result of draft evasion, Russian generals have complained on numerous times that the bulk of the army is made up of drug addicts, imbeciles, and ex-convicts, which in turn has lead to an overall decline of the morale and function of the Russian armed services.
Conscripts often face brutal hazing and bullying upon their entrance into the military, known as dedovschina, some dying as a result.
On the other hand, in some countries (like in Russia) the problems with this issue are extremely dire (see dedovschina).
www.breathittteens.com /research.php?title=Conscription   (11918 words)

  
 Russia: The Wrongs of Passage: Accountability   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-19)
Commanders are therefore often less than eager to thoroughly investigate these incidents, and tend to deny or downplay them.
Indeed, soldiers’ rights’ groups have told Human Rights Watch that in response to numerous complaints of confirmed dedovschina abuses lodged by them, the military procuracy sends letters with a standard formula: “the allegations were not confirmed by the facts.”
He did not specify, however, what kind of crimes the commanders sought to conceal.
hrw.org /reports/2004/russia1004/8.htm   (2893 words)

  
 MojoFlix - Russian Army Training Video
The precise form it takes may vary from one army to another, but its essential features are that it is systematic, continual, status-related, and usually carried out by those who have previously been its victims." This does not mean that all soldiers practice this, and is not the standard for training or disipline.
Russian Army is a shame - and I am a Russian who chose not to serve in it.
These jerks (those who enforce this "dedovschina" style of command) deserve a martial court and many many years in prison...
www.mojoflix.com /Video/Russian-Army-Training.html   (319 words)

  
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He thought many times about turning his submachine gun at the “grandfather” who abused and punched him.
We are shown a major trained in the old school, who tries to battle the system of “dedovschina” (abuse by the “grandfathers”), searches for those guilty of physical abuse and demands that the younger soldiers point out their tormentors.
The soldiers are silent, too cowed to speak up.
www.unobserver.com /printen.php?id=414   (1043 words)

  
 Human Rights House Alternative Military Service law passed by the Russian State Duma
This number declines with each year: 27% eight years ago, and 17% - three years ago.
The main reason for unwillingness to serve in the army - is widespread "non-statutory relations" — the practice of "dedovschina", the violent, sometimes fatal hazing of new junior recruits for the armed services which continued during the year.
This type of mistreatment often resulted in permanent injuries or deaths among servicemen.
www.humanrightshouse.org /dllvis5.asp?id=1621   (366 words)

  
 Russia: A Boot Camp for Tourists - Newsweek: International Editions - MSNBC.com
Palachyov talks as he awaits a new batch of "recruits." "If they want extreme, we'll give them extreme," he says.
"And if they want dedovschina, we can give it to them," adds Vadim Baranov, 28, referring to the Russian Army's ubiquitous system of hazing, where senior soldiers bully the more junior.
Baranov served two tours in Chechnya and teaches hand-to-hand combat to tourists who come for as little as a day or weeks at a time.
www.msnbc.msn.com /id/8767992/site/newsweek   (767 words)

  
 Russian Military Forum
Dedovschina - Lindsay on Nov 16, 2004, 8:43 AM
Re: Dedovschina - Oleg on Nov 16, 2004, 9:46 AM
Re: Dedovschina - Valeri Potapov on Nov 24, 2004, 5:13 PM
www.network54.com /Forum/116312/page-11   (2463 words)

  
  
As this very question was highly politicized, the minorities feared that local authorities might implement legislation in a discriminatory manner.[12]
From 1988, the issue of abuse in the military, known in Russian as dedovschina ("hazing" of younger conscripts by more senior conscripts and officers), gained increasing attention.
In 1990 and 1991 - prior to Latvia’s independence - conscripts from Latvia and other Baltic states had sometimes been singled out for special abuse in the Soviet military.
www.ihf-hr.org /viewbinary/viewhtml.php?doc_id=4853   (2349 words)

  
 Russian Conscription: some less well known facts   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-19)
The representatives of the Union of Soldiers’ Mothers Committees stressed the urgent need for Russia to reform its conscription system with a view to abolishing it, to stop operations of forced conscription, and to radically improve the living conditions in the army.
The authorities should more vigorously address the acute problems of dedovschina (also known as hazing), torture and ill-treatment.
Young soldiers suffer an ordeal in the armed forces: they continuously report on disproportionate punishments, harassments, beatings, ordered by superiors or their fellow mates.
www.freerepublic.com /focus/news/672230/posts   (11886 words)

  
 eXile - Issue #237 - Feis Kontrol!   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-19)
It's a short step from a Lazy Susan at the Chinese restaurant to spinning records, and she's made it.
Man would we love to get dedovschina on this recruit!
And now back to our regular feis kontrol programming.
www.exile.ru /2006-May-05/feis_kontrol.html   (698 words)

  
 languagehat.com: Comment on DEDOVSHCHINA.
Might the stress on the second syllable not be an acceptable alternative?
I remember our class translating a short story called Den' Salabona which dealt with Dedovschina and a native speaker indicating the pronunciation thus.
Fascinating story if difficult to understand because of the heavy use of slang military terms.
www.languagehat.com /mt/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=2451   (2898 words)

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