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  http://www.qando.net/ - Vietnam, Defeatism and Kerry
It could also be argued that the fact that bad news for the current occupant of the office of president is good news for the challenger may give the impression that the challenger is happy with reverses (since they would probably help put him in office) and thus, in a sense, a defeatist.
Defeatism is purposefully stoking doubts about America's capacity and resolve to defeat the enemy when engaged in war.
It is the endemic Vietnam era defeatism of the liberal left coming to the fore again, and John Kerry is their standard bearer.
www.qando.net /details.aspx?Entry=147   (1316 words)

 Revolutionary Defeatism
He regarded revolutionary defeatism as the result of a strategic line-which he was not alone in recommend ing-1he transformation of the imperialist war into civil war'.
The defeat of one's own national army can be an aim only in a single case, that is when we have a capitalist army fighting against a workers' state or marching against a developing revolution.
Defeatism is the class policy of the proletariat, which even during a war sees the main enemy at home, within its particular imperialist country.
www.revolutionary-history.co.uk /backiss/Vol1/No3/RevDeft.html   (7625 words)

 Hal Draper: The Myth of Lenin's "Revolutionary Defeatism" (Intro)   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
Its historical precedent was particularly to be found in the “defeatism” which permeated all classes of Russian society in the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-5, this experience being the reason why the Bolsheviks so readily came to the “defeatist” position in 1914.
In fact, an anti-war position which fell short of avowed defeatism was either “left-centrist” or tinged with pacifism, or, at the very best, it was an “unconscious” defeatism which could not be carried out consistently and fearlessly in action until the “slogan of defeat” itself was embraced.
There were Russian socialists who were for the defeat of Russian tsarism, “their own” government, and by the same token for the victory of Germany, this being the lesser evil for them, since they took their stand not as admirers of Prussian junkerdom but as enemies of tsarism.
www.marxists.org /archive/draper/1953/defeat/intro.htm   (3005 words)

 Defeatism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Elizabeth von Thadden (1890 – 1944), a teacher and an anti-Hitler activist from Morąg, was sentenced to death for defeatism and attempted treason.
Workers would gain more from their own nations' defeats, he argued, if the war could be turned into civil war and then international revolution.
Initially rejected by all but the more radical at the socialist Zimmerwald Conference in 1915, the concept appears to have gained support from more and more socialists, especially in Russia in 1917 after it was forcefully reaffirmed in Lenin's April Theses and Russia's war losses continued.
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Defeatism   (342 words)

 The Manila Times Internet Edition | WORLD > Bush warns against Iraq war ‘defeatism’   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
“Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts.”
Much of the President’s speech focused on the growing chorus of calls for a firm timetable for a US withdrawal, something he has rejected and equated to admitting defeat in the face of a deadly insurgency.
The unrelenting violence “proves that the war is difficult, it does not mean that we are losing,” he said.
www.manilatimes.net /national/2005/dec/20/yehey/world/20051220wor5.html   (246 words)

 The Politics of Defeatism
The logical end of all this is conservative defeat, because it is inevitable that someday Democrats will win an election and they’ll increase government.
Republicans will get back in and declare all of the programs the Democrats created to hot to handle and the end of this will be the subjugation of the American people under European style Socialism while ineptitude in dealing with social issues leads us down the road to Gomorrah.
The first is to delay the moment of national downfall as long as possible by keeping Democrats out of White House as much as possible.
adamsweb.us /defeatism.html   (1207 words)

 Firedoglake - Firedoglake weblog » FDL Late Nite: Democratic Defeatism
This image of "powerlessness" at a time when the Republicans are on the ropes is the biggest problem we face for the fall elections.
They must take action (and I don’t mean boring press conferences and 10 point plans) or it won’t matter a damn if the Republicans are on the ropes — demoralized Democrats are not going to bother with them.
Before we decry the defeatism of our Democratic officials it is best that we avoid it ourselves.
www.firedoglake.com /2006/03/15/fdl-late-nite-democratic-defeatism   (750 words)

 Western World Politics (Old): Revolutionary Defeatism; the key to understanding the far left
As one American writer noted, in the past Marxists used to dedicate almost as much time discussing what they would build in its place, whereas now, modern leftists are concerned simply with tearing it down, confident that a society will be built in its place which is "inevitably" better.
Two concepts are important to understand when discussing revolutionary defeatism, these being "false consciousness" and "useful idiots".
In order to defeat the far left, we need to know him, and without a grasp of the concept of revolutionary defeatism, we do not truly know our enemy; we are just walking in the woods....
westernworldpolitics.blogspot.com /2005/10/revolutionary-defeatism-key-to.html   (2483 words)

 Defeat defeatism in your mind and in the minds of your friends and family. (via CobWeb/3.1 planetlab1.isi.jhu.edu)   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
Defeat defeatism in your mind and in the minds of your friends and family.
When a thought-mistake produces a feeling of defeat or helplessness, it can kill your motivation and determination.
Test your level of defeatism and where you can specifically work on improving it.
www.youmeworks.com.cob-web.org:8888 /defeatdefeatism.html   (1654 words)

 Reject Defeatism . . . Organize!
We should not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
We should not mourn our failure to prevent war as if it means we are on a losing trajectory.
Objective assessment is good but defeatism will reduce our potentials even when the prospects for victory have never been nearer.
www.dissidentvoice.org /Articles2/Shalom-Albert_Organize.htm   (3671 words)

 Scoop: Madan P. Khanal: Nepal - Discourse Of Defeatism?
Two Nepalese intellectuals were at the center of a sordid spectacle in Kathmandu the other day, citing a litany of statistics “proving” that 12 years of multiparty democracy were far beneficial to the kingdom than the previous three decades of palace-led partyless rule.
A gripping perception of sustained marginalization by the palace since October 2002, when King Gyanendra dismissed the last elected government for its failure to hold elections on schedule, may have prompted mainstream politicians to indulge in some creativity.
Defeatism should find no place the mainstream’s discourse.
www.scoop.co.nz /stories/HL0507/S00388.htm   (1684 words)

 Unclaimed Territory - by Glenn Greenwald: Defeatism and attacks on the Commander-in-Chief during a time of war
This is a paragraph of text that could go in the sidebar.
Defeatism and attacks on the Commander-in-Chief during a time of war
Attacks on the Commander-in-Chief and proclamations of American defeat are ubiquitous - among the same group that insisted for the last five years that such attacks are dangerous and wrong and that talk of American defeat helps the terrorists.
glenngreenwald.blogspot.com /2006/08/defeatism-and-attacks-on-commander-in_14.html   (840 words)

Defeatism is "the acceptance of or resignation to defeat."
May the Iraqi example help Americans defeat defeatism in America.
For defeatism is an insidious infection spread by political opportunists and their media allies intent on promoting their own interests.
www.michnews.com /cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/128/6679/printer   (2254 words)

 Opinion: Common Sense: "DEFEATISM" - The Post Chronicle
To them, and the broader capitulationist cabal to which they belong, there shall be no "good news" from the battlefield, every American casualty is regarded as a campaign issue, and only critics of the war have credibility.
It's apparent from last week's acrimonious debate in the House of Representatives and this week's raucous ranting in the Senate that their party's leadership believes that a steady drumbeat of dismal defeatism is the best way to return Democrats to power in the 2006 and 2008 elections.
Whether that's true or not remains to be seen -- but the "surrender now crowd" has unquestionably emboldened our adversaries and disheartened our allies overseas.
www.postchronicle.com /commentary/opinion/article_21224661.shtml   (809 words)

 Blue Crab Boulevard » Blog Archive » No End In Sight
This entry was posted on Sunday, June 18th, 2006 at 9:46 pm and is filed under Media, War.
Instead of playing politics with other people’s lives, instead of dismissing these questions as “defeatism” and “disgusting leftist dribble,” it is time to start demanding answers.
Instead of bashing Democrats and the media for telling the truth about Iraq, it is time to face that truth.
bluecrabboulevard.com /2006/06/18/no-end-in-sight   (675 words)

 Dean's defeatism - Editorials/Op-Ed - The Washington Times, America's Newspaper   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
In that capacity, he has drawn sharp criticism for his remarks about the war.
Dean told a San Antonio radio station earlier this week: "The idea that we're going to win the war in Iraq is an idea which is just plain wrong." Actually, this takes us beyond the absurd and into the realm of the defeatism.
Dean's antiwar sentiment is so strong that for him no degree of victory in Iraq could justify America's commitment; or his partisanship is so rank that he is willing to barter the cause our soldiers died for in exchange for political gain.
www.washtimes.com /op-ed/20051209-090845-5360r.htm   (386 words)

 Victor Davis Hanson on Iraq on National Review Online (via CobWeb/3.1 planetlab1.isi.jhu.edu)   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
Partisanship about the war earlier on established the present sad paradox of election-year politicking: Good news from Iraq is seen as bad news for John Kerry, and vice versa.
These depressing times really are much like the late 1960s, when only a few dared to plead that Hue and Tet were not abject defeats, but rare examples of American courage and skill.
But now as then, the louder voice of defeatism smothers all reason, all perspective, all sense of balance — and so the war is not assessed in terms of five years but rather by the last five hours of ignorant punditry.
www.nationalreview.com.cob-web.org:8888 /hanson/hanson200406040840.asp   (1586 words)

 Larry Kudlow on John Kerry, Iraq, Allawi, and Defeatism on NRO Financial
Larry Kudlow on John Kerry, Iraq, Allawi, and Defeatism on NRO Financial
Defeatism is the hallmark of the Kerry policy, so you won’t hear the candidate mention any of this.
Instead he’ll whine about internationalizing the war, while neglecting to mention that U.N. resolution 1546, which passed in June, endorsed the Iraqi interim government and pledged support for the upcoming elections.
www.nationalreview.com /kudlow/kudlow200409280831.asp   (808 words)

 Out of the mouth of babes ... defeatism | csmonitor.com
The former didn't shock me. There will always be anti-Americanism in Canada, particularly in the Toronto area, our very own blue state.
A recent Decima Research poll of 2,000 Canadians showed that 59 percent agreed that Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan as part of NATO forces "are dying for a cause we cannot win." So Schuyler, Kylie, Tyler, and Megan come by their defeatism honestly.
Each Canadian casualty in Afghanistan is met with days of media coverage, with pundits debating whether we ought to continue fighting "George Bush's war," and whether said war is "unwinnable."
www.csmonitor.com /2006/1016/p09s01-coop.html   (666 words)

 My Way News - Cheney Accuses Democrats of 'Defeatism'
MILWAUKEE (AP) - Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday that Democratic leaders aren't doing enough to fight terrorism and said Americans must "reject any strategy of resignation and defeatism in the face of determined enemies."
Cheney, speaking at a party fundraiser, said Republicans must keep national security on the minds of voters heading into the November midterm election.
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apnews.myway.com /article/20060925/D8KC63O80.html   (422 words)

 VN Boards - Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister: Don't give in to defeatism and panic!
Topic: Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister: Don't give in to defeatism and panic!
Cabbyman apparently doesn't realize that Japan's conservative government has been playing America ever since the end of the war and has by far gotten the better deal out of things.
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Franklin Delano Roosevelt's assurance during the Depression that "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself" was an overstatement.
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www.michnews.com /cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/128/6679   (2424 words)

 GOP.com | Republican National Committee :: Blog Post - A Milestone In The Dem Transition From Strength To Defeatism
Republican National Committee :: Blog Post - A Milestone In The Dem Transition From Strength To Defeatism
A Milestone In The Dem Transition From Strength To Defeatism
However, in the spirit of encouraging a free flow of ideas including supporting and opposing views, the RNC is providing this forum for various opinions to be expressed and debated.
www.gop.com /blog/BlogPost.aspx?BlogPostID=2264   (347 words)

 Halifax Live - Abandon Ship: Ralph Surette Proves He's A Relic Of Defeatism (via CobWeb/3.1 planetlab1.isi.jhu.edu)   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
Halifax Live - Abandon Ship: Ralph Surette Proves He's A Relic Of Defeatism (via CobWeb/3.1 planetlab1.isi.jhu.edu)
The WWF ‘s Foot In Their Mouth Print
The HRM is finally launching a program to address the ever increasing litter problem in this great city of ours.
www.halifaxlive.com.cob-web.org:8888 /content/view/653/32   (825 words)

 COUNTERCOLUMN: With your host, Ali Bubba
How many tank battalions do you think NATO has over there?
Engraved in their collective folk memory of Afghanistan's warrior history are tales of the defeat of the British in 1842 and 1880 along with the defeat of the Russians in the 1980s.
Pardon me if I don't quake in my boots, Mr.
iraqnow.blogspot.com   (6590 words)

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