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  Argument - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
doublespeak argument, the use of misleading or irrelevant reasoning by one side during a debate
Argumentation theory, the science and theory of civil debates
Argumentative, an type of evidentiary objection to a question for a witness during a trial
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 Doublespeak argument - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A Doublespeak argument is the name given to an argument, or debate, where one or more sides seems to be using reasonings that are not the real reasonings for that side.
For example, some consider the fair use argument (where one should be allowed to copy software or music for personal use) in debates for and against file sharing programs to be a doublespeak argument.
Those who call this argument doublespeak feel that the real issue is that the single product financial service company feels threatened by companies which have merged to monopolize the financial services industry.
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Doublespeak_argument   (331 words)

  
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Argumentation, by contrast, is associated with Aristotle's dialectic reasoning, and aims "at modifying an existing state of affairs." It "presupposes a meeting of minds," and it presupposes choice, agency and power on the part of the reader / listener.
To be successful, of course, argumentation requires an acceptance that one is speaking with contingent, as opposed to absolute authority, that one is speaking to an audience of people who also have contingent authority and freedom of action.
Teaching materials are, for the most part, arguments, and should plead, suggest, inveigle, make a case ­ but all too often, their structure and voice are of demonstrations.
www.stthomasu.ca /inkshed/jamie.htm   (2392 words)

  
 Logical Fallacy: Straw Man
In a Straw Man argument, the arguer argues to a conclusion that denies the "straw man" he has set up, but misses the target.
So, the fallacy is not simply the argument, but the entire situation of the argument occurring in such a context.
As the "straw man" metaphor suggests, the counterfeit position attacked in a Straw Man argument is typically weaker than the opponent's actual position, just as a straw man is easier to defeat than a flesh-and-blood one.
www.fallacyfiles.org /strawman.html   (793 words)

  
 Fools' Gold (Arguements Against Gold Standard and Bankers)   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
The argument here is that money is a function of culture, not culture is a function of money although selective facts may make it appear so.
A plausible argument can be made that if banks were required to maintain an invariable level of gold reserves, it would limit how much money they could create.
(The argument that it may have forced the U. to stay out of the war had the reserve requirement been maintained is irrelevant; the U. participated in the war.) Reserve requirements were lowered, and the war was financed with debt-money created by banks.
www.freerepublic.com /focus/news/674984/posts   (10072 words)

  
 Hadley Arkes on John Kerry, Mitt Romney, and Gay Marriage on National Review Online
Behind closed doors, the Republican leadership, including several chairmen and supposed conservative stalwarts, have reportedly expressed their resentment that they should be made to vote on an issue so vexing, so quick to release poisons into the political air.
The undoing of that straddle, or the unraveling of his argument, would be fine political theater in itself.
For the argument has been made, even more tellingly, that the Fourteenth Amendment was designed for the sake of protecting fl people, newly delivered from slavery.
www.nationalreview.com /comment/arkes200407131127.asp   (1999 words)

  
 PsychNews 2(3)
Doublespeak is used to achieve political goals, e.g.
Reason is necessary for Chalmer's argument to be valid, according to Searle.
Searle's argument is used to remove responsibility where it belongs.
userpage.fu-berlin.de /~expert/psychnews/2_3/pni2_3_4a.htm   (3509 words)

  
 Fools' Gold
A pseudo-legal argument is sometimes advanced by advocates of gold money that a debt cannot be paid with another debt.
A common argument for gold money that accompanies the pseudo-legal sophistry is that gold has "intrinsic value," another semantic deception.
The first central bank of the U. was charted in 1791, and the Coinage Act of 1792 which limited coinage to the haphazard appearance of gold and silver owners at the mint forced seekers of money to use bank credit or debt financing.
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 HOPE - Environmental Glossary by David J. Dilworth
This is an evasive argument tactic commonly used by people who don't have facts or reason on their side.
Doublespeak used by Rancho San Carlos developers in 1996 to disguise a giant Golf Course, which takes water from essential habitat for frogs facing extinction; Mark Twain's celebrated California red-legged frogs.
When caught, they use doublespeak to argue "fl is really white", "war is actually peace" or "Toxic Sludge (clearcutting, pesticides, extinction etc.) is good for you.
www.1hope.org /glossary.htm   (7708 words)

  
 Critical Thinking Practice Exam 2   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
Question #23: An argument where the conclusion restates a point made in the premises or clearly assumed by the premises.
Question #26: A fallacy where a claim or argument is rejected because of some fact about the author or source of the claim or argument.
Question #31: A term with two different meanings is used in an argument and in the context, it is difficult to decide which meaning is intended.
www.santarosa.edu /~dpeterso/permanenthtml/test2answers.htm   (1817 words)

  
 test2sol.html   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
Common problems included failing to notice the conclusion of the argument and 'reading in' to the argument ideas or claims that were not made.
Here we have an argument that attempts to persuade us that 'things aren't going to plan', which is doublespeak (or a euphemism) for 'the U.S. is taking casualties' (or similar.) There was some weaseling in the phrase 'may be seeing indications that'.
This is a causal argument, attributing the rising cost of health care to doctor's wage increases.
www.ualberta.ca /~stephens/logic/T2sol.html   (2192 words)

  
 The Flag of the World » Blog Archive » Rossi v. Gregoire: Precedent for a Rossi court win
The only argument that I can see that Democrats can make against this is that it’s not clear that Gregoire gained any votes from the irregularities–this is notably different than the argument currently being made by Democratic officials, that it’s not clear that the irregularities were enough to alter the election.
Their argument is that a rate of say.02% is quite normal.
I need to research to give a complete argument about the “not their residence” people, but I believe these voters will be considered illegal like the felons.
www.timothygoddard.com /blog/index.php?p=816   (13225 words)

  
 The doublespeak of Vedic science (Part XII of XII)   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
These arguments have been obligingly supplied by the secular, academic critics of modern science and the Enlightenment.
The leading trend in sociology of science in the last couple of decades has been to deny that modern science is a distinctive body of knowledge, which has succeeded in attaining higher standards of objectivity and reliability than other, pre-modern, magical-religious ways of understanding nature.
On the strength of the argument that all "ethno-sciences" are equal, and that modern science has no greater claim to objectivity, Nandy has argued that modern science is the myth of the imperialist west, and astrology is the myth of the weak, who are the victims of the west.
www.hvk.org /articles/0601/102.html   (1168 words)

  
 Errors in Reasoning   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
often people will attempt to bolster an argument with references to experts or famous people these appeals are valid when the person quoted or referred to is an expert in the area being discussed they are not valid, however, when the individuals have no expertise on the issue
Doublespeak is language that appears to be legitimate but is actually used purposefully to distort meaning.
The military is infamous for using such language to avoid unpleasant associations, such as: “radiation enhancement device” for neutron bomb and “incontinent ordnance” for civilian targets.
www.du.edu /~kstevens/aandrerrors.htm   (1518 words)

  
 Lutz   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
Lutz's 1989 Doublespeak book was required reading back in my undergraduate rhetorical theory class; I have used it more than once for classes I have taught, and I'm told it is widely used in other forums as well.
The term "doublespeak" was coined as an amalgam of two Orwellian expressions, doublethink and newspeak.
Though the sole point of language is to communicate and clarify, doublespeak miscommunicates and obfuscates.
personal.bgsu.edu /~pcesari/722project.html   (315 words)

  
 The actual definition of "Jewspeak" - Stormfront White Nationalist Community   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
Should they fail, in spite of their flagrant usage of fallacies of logic, they acted as if they could not understand the counter arguments and bolted away to another field of discussion.
If your adversary felt forced to give in to your argument, on account of the observers present, and if you then thought that at last you had gained ground, a surprise was in store for you on the following day.
Never give the Jewspeaker the illusion that he/she is winning the argument since they're more than likely lacking any facts to support their argument.
www.stormfront.org /forum/showthread.php?t=207566   (1202 words)

  
 Comments for: Battlefield Earth Sucks - ja.zz
He is not using "shrink doublespeak", he is using widely used terms to describe fallacious reasoning.
If you took a class on logic (which it is clear you haven't) you would study all sorts of interesting things such as this.
To criticize your argument as being logically flawed in no way involves physchology.
www.shacknews.com /ja.zz?id=186219   (380 words)

  
 CSU VP arrested for tabling   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
I admit to not having in-depth knowledge of some of these thinkers, but I believe I have a decent grasp and I'm sure you're well aware that most of these theories are somewhat lacking.
When someone violently prevents his opponent from being heard, refuses to obey university rules that were imposed as a consequence and then has the temerity to complain that his own free speech rights are being infringed, he is engaging in hypocrisy of the most egregious variety.
I think JimL is being far too kind when he calls your argument "doublespeak".
thelink.concordia.ca /comments.pl?sid=1252&cid=1207   (406 words)

  
 Doublespeak's parallel universe   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
The argument between Iraq and North Korea is this: Why are we going to war with Iraq (who doesn't have proof of WMD to others' content) when North Korea does have WMD?
If I recall correctly, the Democrat argument then was that the didn't go to Rwanda because they didn't have the resources there to do anything about it, but they could go to Kosovo and do something about that.
The argument to not do something here because we won't do something there, and there is just like here (or worse), is so seductive that it causes instant analysis paralysis.
www.freerepublic.com /focus/news/828512/posts   (682 words)

  
 mlah.redpin.com
and since this was an argument over there, i thought it would be polite to at least give her a link and some tracky love.
unwittingly, i think, some have tried to change the topic from doublespeak to whether or not socialized medicine is cheaper than non-socialized medicine.
so i'm going to expose a few of the most obvious doublespeak arguments the liberal left uses when they tal about specific issues.
www.mlah.us   (3754 words)

  
 Language   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
In The Argument Culture, she examines the pervasive adversarial systems that make public discourse into one long, bloody fight.
Her second chapter is entitled: "Both Sides Come Out Fighting: The Argument Culture and the Press."
Our language encourages us to talk about the world in terms of polarities, or opposites, and not in terms of a stream of alternatives.
www.accesswave.ca /~bwark/Book_Reviews/language.htm   (375 words)

  
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The author talks about "…the praise/blame axis: that is, the tendency for terms of praise and blame to be liable to slippage and thus to mean their opposites or their negative counterparts on one or another evaluative axis separating good qualities from bad." (p.
No writing or argument comes to us in a vacuum, but always appears in a context, that is, among a company of writings or arguments that the writer and reader will each assume to be in the mind and memory of the other.
Greek terms are all thoroughly explained throughout the argument and all are transliterated in order to be available to those who have not struggled through Greek 101 in Seminary.
www.bts.edu /trobisch/BookReviews/PhilBookReviews.htm   (11679 words)

  
 Pejmanesque: UNIVERSITY OF ORWELLIAN DOUBLESPEAK
The Angry Clam is justifiably outraged about the latest shenanigans of his university.
If this really is the best argument that can be made against conservatism, the authors of such arguments parody themselves far more effectively than they parody the conservative ideology.
There are far more effective and direct arguments so I doubt this would be their "best".
www.pejmanesque.com /archives/003656.html   (205 words)

  
 Talking Points Memo: by Joshua Micah Marshall: November 02, 2003 - November 08, 2003 Archives   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
Yet, as I said in The Hill on Wednesday, their argument is really just a “crafty verbal dodge — sort of like ‘I didn’t accuse you of eating the cake.
Part of the administration’s effort to float the imminent threat argument was based on redefining what such a threat would mean in the face of terrorism and inadequate intelligence information.
I made my argument about the bogusness of the “we never said it was an imminent threat” argument in my last column in The Hill.
www.talkingpointsmemo.com /archives/week_2003_11_02.php   (7108 words)

  
 Zagnoli McEvoy Foley LLC - - Articles and White Papers - What Jurors Really Want   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
When you do this, you're telling me you really don't want me to raise my hand and tell you what I think.
It sounds like "doublespeak" to me and I don't like it.
If I hear doublespeak when I listen to a politician I lose interest in the politician and the message.
www.zmf.com /articles/art_whatjurorswant.php   (1349 words)

  
 Avoiding an India-Pakistan Nuclear Confrontation
India on the other hand argues that since it faced nuclear threats from Pakistan, as well as from China, it must have the ability to deter both of them.
Implications for Pakistan of the two-front argument are two-fold.
However, as the Soviet build-up to meet the perceived threats from east and south affected the West; the Triad, if developed, would create certain effects in Pakistan.
www.pugwash.org /reports/rc/sa/march2003/pakistan2003-durrani.htm   (1529 words)

  
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Since radicalism is essentially a forceful argument, this approach to writing is especially relevant.
Our readings will explore the use of language to enforce institutional power, in the law, in government, and in business.
11, Causal Arguments 16 First Draft of Second Paper Due 21 Topic: Doublespeak Reading: Lutz, 27-83 QUIZ 3 23 Topic: Doublespeak Reading: Lutz, 115-149 28 Topic: Doublespeak Reading: Lutz, 151-217 30 Meet in Lab EA, Chap.
www.msu.edu /course/atl/130/larabee/spring2004.doc   (675 words)

  
 I Don't Think That Word Means What You Think It Means: Archive Entry From Brad DeLong's Webjournal   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
This is precisely my argument against lefties who, I admit, definitely have noble goals.
Taking someone's argument, stripping it of it's actual premises, substituting one's own premises about the way the world works and then mocking the resulting non-sequitur isn't translation, it's intellectual dishonesty.
There is no contradiction between Matt saying "The neocons are right at a certain level of abstraction" and Brad saying "The neocons don't mean what they say." Obviously, Matt's statement is referring to the neocons' *arguments*, not their secret hidden desires.
www.j-bradford-delong.net /movable_type/2004_archives/001312.html   (5888 words)

  
 More Zionist Israeli Doublespeak : SF Indymedia   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
As usual, the Zionists, who amazingly even say the word "Zionist" is degrading (!), are masters of confusion and doublespeak.
Obviously not every argument against the war in Iraq can be described as
political and public discourse who appear to do so, the arguments of
sf.indymedia.org /mail.php?id=1582214   (536 words)

  
 WR 122 English Composition Main Page   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
3 The Structure of Argument 53-83 / Essay #2 Assignment given
Ch 8 The Language of Argument: Style 205-25
Ch 8 The Language of Argument: Style 205-25 / Revision Assignment given
spot.pcc.edu /~mmcdowel/wr122spr02/wr122mainspr02.html   (153 words)

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