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	Earl Doherty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Doherty claims that even the author of the Gospel of Mark, which he dates, later than most New Testament scholars, after 90 AD, probably did not consider his gospel to be a literal work of history, but an allegorical Midrashic composition based on the Old Testament prophecies.
		Doherty has a degree in Ancient History and Classical Languages, and he was introduced to the idea of a mythical origin of Jesus by the work of G.A. Wells (1926—), who has authored a number of books arguing a more moderate form of the "Christ myth" theory.
		Doherty's belief that there was no historical Jesus contrasts with the view of Rationalists, who thought of Jesus as a real person whose story has only survived in oral traditions told in the language of myth.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Earl_Doherty (517 words)

	Earl Doherty's 200 Silences Shouted Down
		Doherty adds that "...Paul is clearly allowing for no distinction in quality or origin between his apostleship and that of Peter" and proceeds to made hash of this point, but the division in missionary sectors was not done by Jesus within his time on earth.
		Doherty dismisses these verses as "a series of visions of the spiritual Christ, a Christ who, as part of the scripture-based gospel about him, is declared to have been raised on the third day." We have shown in several places that this position does not hold water.
		Doherty asks whether Paul could "have found no comfort in the words of Jesus himself, in his blessings on those who hunger and thirst and are persecuted" and expects that he should "call attention to the fact that 'blessing those who curse you' was a direct admonition of Jesus".
	www.tektonics.org /doherty/doherty200.html (15655 words)

	Talk:Earl Doherty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Doherty has a working knowledge of Greek and Latin and a basic knowledge of Hebrew and Syriac.
		He claims that this has allowed him to study the New Testament and various related contemporary sources in their original languages, he further arguing that his approach is based on a historical rather than a theological approach to historic religious texts and is in line with historical revisionism.
		Doherty currently (2003) lives in Canada and continues to take part in scholarly discussions of Jesus historical existence.
	www.wikipedia.org /wiki/Talk:Earl_Doherty (2848 words)

	Taking the "Jesus Puzzle" Apart Piece-By-Piece
		Doherty relies heavily on manuscripts and sources that date in and beyond the 2nd century C.E. in attempt to argue for events that occurred/did not occur in the first century C.E., in general.
		Earl Doherty failed to provide a comparison between the historical documentation for a historical Jesus with the historical documentation for the historicity of other ancient historical figures and events.
		Earl Doherty classifies the Gospels in the genre of midrash instead of ancient biography, and the majority of New Testament scholars today place the Gospels in a sub-genre of ancient biography.
	www.preventingtruthdecay.org /jesuspuzzle2.shtml (586 words)

	Earl Doherty, the Jesus Myth and Second Century Christian Writings
		Doherty sees in the second century a continuation of the first century in terms of diversity, a lack of common doctrine, no centralized authority and a weak concept of apostolic tradition, as well as a range of silence on the reputed founder of Christianity [4].
		Doherty believes that the Gospels were in general circulation among the pagans by the 160s, and so pagans knew what Christians believed about their own origins by that time.
		Doherty notes the "astonishing fact [that] of the five or six major apologists up to the year 180 - after that, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Clement of Alexandria and Origen are all firmly anchored in Gospel tradition - none, with the exception of Justin, introduces an historical Jesus into their defenses of Christianity to the pagan" [16].
	members.optusnet.com.au /gakuseidon/Doherty2ndC_Review.htm (5777 words)

	Earl Doherty - InfoSearchPoint.com (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
		Earl Doherty is the author of The Jesus Puzzle, a work published in 2000 by the Canadian Humanist Association arguing that Jesus never lived, and that he was simply a fictional character made up after Paul died, based on Old Testament prophecy.
		This, Doherty claims, was made possible by the Roman destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD—the New Testament authors backdating his life to 40 years before that date so there wouldn't be any live witnesses left.
		Doherty's belief that there was no historical Jesus contrasts with the view of Rationalists who thought of Jesus as a real person whose story got garbled into a myth.
	www.infosearchpoint.com /display/Earl_Doherty (293 words)

	jesuspuzzle (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
		Earl Doherty argues that Christianity began as a mystical-revelatory religion, very different from the "deviant" sect that won the propaganda war to become the eventual "orthodoxy." The latter gained prominence in the 2nd century and achieved total victory by the 4th.
		As Doherty argues, "Jesus Christ" (which means "The Anointed Savior") was originally a heavenly being, whose atoning death took place at the hands of demonic beings in a supernatural realm halfway between heaven and earth, a sublunar sphere where he assumed a fleshly, quasi-human form.
		Doherty alleges this is a problematic "silence" (though I can't see why Jesus would warrant mention there); he even suggests in a note that the Neronian passage might be an interpolation (very unlikely: if it is a forgery, the forger was a master of Tacitean style).
	www.infidels.org /library/modern/richard_carrier/jesuspuzzle.shtml (11341 words)

	Earl Doherty, the Jesus Myth and Second Century Christian Writings
		I concluded that Doherty's analysis is flawed as he hadn't examined all the literature of the period, and that there is no reason to conclude that the second century apologists didn't believe in a historical Jesus.
		Doherty appears unaware that statements by his "mythicist" apologists that he deems problematic for historicists appear in the "historicist" apologists writings as well.
		Doherty says that "it is not a defense of the sign of the cross", but given that M. Felix has implied "you pagans do it too" and given it positive connotations, I suggest that it is in fact a defense of the sign of the cross.
	members.optusnet.com.au /gakuseidon/Doherty2ndC_Review_Part2.htm (10103 words)

	The Mysterious Case of the Missing Q, The Passantinos discuss the Q documentary hypothesis as used by Earl Doherty in ...
		Doherty’s readers are bound to conclude that Q actually existed and that we must have far more evidence for it than we do for the gospels.
		Authors like Doherty, who claim to be sincere skeptics, should take her example and actually examine the evidence rather than merely parroting assumptions and dogmatic assertions without challenging the results by a careful examination of the documents we possess.
		Doherty is inconsistent in trusting Q, which no one has ever seen, instead of the gospels, for which we have multiple attestations over a continuous period of time.[20] In addition, the Q theory itself is not as impervious to criticism as one would think from reading Doherty.
	www.answers.org /bible/missing_q.html (8866 words)

	Doherty's Use of Hebrews
		Doherty is being very inventive here, but he ignores the well-established meaning of having "flesh" or "flesh and blood." "The phrase flesh and blood is a common expression for human nature.
		Doherty does not spend any time on this scripture, but it is similar to the statement that Jesus became "in all things" like a human being.
		Doherty's claim that Jesus undergoes the "same thing" and is merely a "copy" of what happens to animal sacrifices in the Temple Cult as stated by Hebrew scripture is clearly erroneous.
	www.bede.org.uk /price3.htm (8019 words)

	Amazon.com: The Jesus Puzzle: Did Christianity Begin with a Mythical Christ? Challenging the Existence of an Historical ... (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
		Doherty considers (and refutes) the various attempts people make to prove a historical Jesus, including the infamous forgery in the writings of historian Josephus and the handful of vaguely-phrased epistle passages which, on the surface, have a "human" sound to them, but in fact can apply equally to divine beings.
		Doherty closely examines the lost document of Q and considers the similarities between Jesus and the competing savior gods, such as Attis, Osiris, Dionysos and Mithras.
		Doherty gives verse 4 in his Appendix 5 (page 310) as follows: "Now, if he had been on earth, he (Jesus) would not even have been a priest..." I have 3 different translations of the New Testament and two give this sentence in a similar manner.
	www.amazon.com /exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/096892591X?v=glance (2328 words)

	Earl Doherty. The Jesus Puzzle. A Critique
		Doherty's work in progress - it currently occupies well over 250 pages between its various extensions, and has now apparently been graced with actual publication by a book publisher - comes as something of a surprise.
		In this section we address Doherty's key arguments for Paul's Christ (and those of other epistle-writers) as one who is purely "spiritual" and never walked the earth as a man. These arguments lead in to all of Doherty's others and form the basis for his paradigm.
		Doherty alludes to "our failure to grasp how scripture, as it was interpreted by certain circles in Paul's day, could confer features on the heavenly Christ which we perceive as 'historical'." Whether this failure is our own, and whether Doherty's professed "intelligible explanations" for these issues stand up under scrutiny, remains to be seen.
	www.tektonics.org /doherty/dohertyhub.html (1235 words)

	Doherty and the Apostolic Tradition (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
		Doherty discusses the Pauline evidence in the section following the one on "Apostolic Tradition." Here, I rebut Doherty's argument that Paul's references to having "received" and "passed on" tradition to his churches are speaking solely of a heavenly revelation to Paul.
		Doherty ignores the first part of the passage, which states that no revelation (even from an "angel from heaven") could supplant the tradition already established in the church.
		Accordingly, from Doherty’s own examples as well as from Papias, Luke, and the writings of Paul, we learn that the early Church did have an established tradition that was handed down by those who had witnessed Jesus—and this established tradition set the mark by which new revelation was judged.
	www.bede.org.uk /price4.htm (4376 words)

	Earl Doherty to speak in Los Angeles Sept 11, 2004 - IIDB (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
		Earl Doherty will be speaking to an Atheists United dinner on Saturday, Sept 11, 2004, at Taix Restaurant in Echo Park.
		Doherty will be the featured speaker at the Atheists United Awards Banquet, Sept 11.
		Why don't you write something like "Doherty's case, however, depends critically on the dating of the documents he uses, and that dating is not solid enough to support the claim he is making." Also, a claim of dishonesty is extremely strong -- probable unsupportable.
	www.iidb.org /vbb/showthread.php?t=92838 (1937 words)

	The Jesus Puzzle, by Earl Doherty: a critique by Bernard D. Muller (part 1 of 2)
		In chapter 3, there is a brief section where Doherty comments on the two worlds concept in the Platonic mind: the upper one (above the earth), domain of the spiritual and the invisible, and the lower one, mainly earthly, perishable and unperfected.
		Doherty is "interpreting" out of context (and using favorable -- but misleading -- translation) in order to back up his mythicist case, as he does often.
		So all the main arguments of Doherty for a crucifixion in some demonic lower heaven, as appearing in his section "the descent of the Son" in chapter 10, are unfounded.
	www.geocities.com /b_d_muller/djp1.html (13699 words)

	The Jesus Puzzle, by Earl Doherty: a critique by Bernard D. Muller (part 2 of 2)
		Doherty relates the double identifications: one for James by way of 'Jesus', the other for Jesus through "the one called Christ".
		Earl starts by saying the statement is drawn from scriptures and therefore is not historical.
		Doherty's case is not strong enough to justify telling the historicists that their claim is incredible or refuted."
	www.geocities.com /b_d_muller/djp2.html (7549 words)

	Historical Jesus Theories
		According to Doherty, religious thinking of the time saw the heavens as multi-layered and would understand the descent of a heavenly Christ to be sacrificed in the lower spheres of the heavens before being raised to the right hand of the Father.
		Doherty maintains that the final redaction of Q as well as the Gospel of Thomas derived from this original document and added the "Jesus said" references only at a subsequent stage.
		Doherty sees the author of the Gospel of Mark as one who had been brought up in the "Galilean Tradition" and devised a brilliant bit of religious syncretism in identifying the fictional Q founder with the exalted Pauline Christ in fashioning the passion story whole cloth.
	www.earlychristianwritings.com /theories.html (10340 words)

	Earl Doherty (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
		Earl Doherty is an atheist who believes that there never was a man named Jesus Christ.
		Doherty's Challenging the Verdict attempts to show that there is in fact very little evidence for the Gospels being accurate depictions of history.
		If Doherty was all wet, I'd think that Strobel would be anxious to take Doherty to task.
	www.caseagainstfaith.com /other_stuff/EarlDoherty.htm (327 words)

	Earl Doherty (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
		Doherty critiques Strobel's book, in order "to expose the fallacy, distortion of evidence, and basic misrepresentation inherent in the "case" for Christian orthodoxy as presented by this consortium of reactionary scholarly opinion."
		This is a response to the position of Doherty and others as supporters of the majority opinion on the existence of a Q document as found in the field of professional New Testament scholarship.
		Earl Doherty and the Argument to Ahistoricity by Richard Carrier
	www.infidels.org /library/modern/earl_doherty/index.shtml (184 words)

	Earl Doherty, the Jesus Myth and Second Century Christian Writings (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
		There are a series of statements from Doherty regarding the writings of Christians in the first couple of centuries, but when you try to pin down the case that he is actually arguing, things get frustratingly vague.
		Regardless of whether this was the case, it should not have precluded the apologists from presenting essential elements of the faith picture, especially when they are purporting to do that very thing.
		It may well be that by the time Irenaeus and Tertullian were mounting their high horses in defence of the heresies that beset them all around, circles who still believed in the non-existence of an historical Jesus had virtually died out.
	www.christianorigins.com /2ndcearl.html (14480 words)

	Book Review by Anthony Campbell: The Jesus Puzzle (Earl Doherty)
		Before reading this book I tended to think of theories about the non-existence of Jesus as being roughly on a par with those about the authorship of Shakespeare's plays: food for a little idle speculation but not substantial enough to be worth dwelling on for long.
		It was clear to me that considerable transformation in the original understanding of Jesus must have taken place, but it didn't occur to me to doubt that Paul had had a historical personage in mind when he referred to Christ.
		Whether you agree with him or not, he presents his facts and arguments in terms that can be understood by the layman, yet he does so without sacrificing the detailed evidence which is needed to support his case.
	www.accampbell.uklinux.net /bookreviews/r/doherty.html (850 words)

	VARDIS FISHER: An American and An Atheist Novelist On The History Of Religious Ideas. Part III.
		Earl Doherty will continue in the next issue of American Atheist with a review of the pivotal novel of the TESTAMENT, Jesus Came Again: A Parable, about the figure of Jesus as the root of Christianity and the question of this figure's historical existence.
		In previous installments of this series on Vardis Fisher's eleven-volume work of historical fiction, the TESTAMENT OF MAN, Earl Doherty examined the first five novels dealing with the prehistoric period.
		Earl Doherty is a member of the Humanist Association of Canada, with a degree in History and Classical Languages.
	www.atheists.org /Atheism/fisher3.html (3072 words)

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		Foursquare Foundation -- four of the toughest items Earl fails to deal with adequately
		The Twenty-Pound Gorilla -- a look at the core of Earl's case, the allegedly problematic silence of the NT Epistles
		The Final Harrumph -- comments on Earl's reply to our reply to his Sound of Silence feature
	www.tektonics.org /TK-D.html (541 words)

	Earl Doherty on Vardis Fisher, Part 1 -- Autumn, 2000
		Earl Doherty on Vardis Fisher, Part 1 -- Autumn, 2000
		Earl Doherty will continue in the next issue of American Atheist with reviews of the following three novels of the Testament: Intimations of Eve, Adam and the Serpent, and The Divine Passion.
		And with the awareness of one’s own existence came the fear of non-existence.
	www.atheists.org /Atheism/fisher1.html (2512 words)

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