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	Three Witnesses - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Although all three witnesses later broke with Smith and were excommunicated from the church, Harris and Whitmer continued to testify of their belief in the Book of Mormon.
		A monument to the Three Witnesses at Temple Square in
		Since the publication of the Book of Mormon, many of its readers have found the statement of the Three Witnesses to be a compelling proof of the work's truthfulness.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Three_Witnesses

	The Three and the Eight: Credible Witnesses or Delusional Followers?
		The three witnesses' testimony states that "we beheld and saw the plates, and the engravings thereon." The testimony of the eight witnesses goes even further, to claim that "as many of the leaves as the said Smith has translated we did handle with our hands." Mormons insist that since Mt.
		However, appended to the Book of Mormon are the statements of the three witnesses and the eight witnesses.
		This is complicated by the fact that several of the witnesses claimed to have actually handled the plates, which leads Brodie to suggest that Joseph might have built some kind of makeshift deception.
	www.whichprophets.com /witnesses.htm

	The Three and the Eight: Credible Witnesses or Delusional Followers?
		The three witnesses' testimony states that "we beheld and saw the plates, and the engravings thereon." The testimony of the eight witnesses goes even further, to claim that "as many of the leaves as the said Smith has translated we did handle with our hands." Mormons insist that since Mt.
		However, appended to the Book of Mormon are the statements of the three witnesses and the eight witnesses.
		Joseph silenced the seeress and two of the three witnesses immediately repented, but that they were so easily led astray certainly does not bolster their credibility.
	www.whichprophets.com /witnesses.htm

	The Flight 800 Eyewitness Hearing
		Eight witnesses testified before a five member panel of FIRO representatives at the July 14, 2001 hearing.
		At the FIRO hearing in July 2001, eight witnesses were given the opportunity to compare their observations with the CIA animation.
		The eight witnesses at FIRO's hearing come from varying backgrounds and viewed the crash from different vantage points.
	flight800.org /witness-hearing.htm

	The Testimony of Two or Three Witnesses: We Can Trust the Factuality of the Gospel, by Bob and Gretchen Passantino
		The unrepentant sinning brother must be confronted with witnesses so that the judgment against him is assured to be just: "so that every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses" (v.
		The principle of "the testimony of two or three witnesses" is a principle by which a religion will stand or fall, and Christianity is the only religion that can stand.
		If a malicious witness takes the stand to accuse a man of a crime, the two men involved in the dispute must stand in the presence of the judges who are in office at the time.
	www.answers.org /bible/two_witnesses.html

	Facts on the Book of Mormon Witnesses - Part 1: credibility and relevancy of witnesses to the Book of Mormon
		The Three Witnesses, Oliver Cowdery, Martin Harris and David Whitmer, all initially describe their experience with the angel and the plates as subjective and visionary rather than objective and concrete.
		Some of the witnesses of the Book of Mormon, who handled the plates and conversed with the angels of God, were afterwards left to doubt and to disbelieve that they had ever seen an angel.
		Adding additional witnesses would go against the earlier revelation that there would be three and only three witnesses and that Joseph should not show the gold plates to anyone else (DandC 5:3, 12-14).
	www.irr.org /mit/bomwit1.html

	The Seattle Times: Arts & Entertainment: Three witnesses hold key in case against Blake
		The three witnesses portrayed Blake, 71, as a man who had reached his wit's end in 2001 as he tried to extricate himself from a relationship with a con artist and convicted felon who had given birth to his child.
		The three witnesses say they thought Blake wanted to work with them on screenplays when he contacted them.
		He got one to acknowledge on the witness stand that he was a heavy cocaine user afflicted with paranoid delusions and two of them to say that Blake never directly asked them to kill his wife.
	seattletimes.nwsource.com /html/artsentertainment/2002179467_blake14.html

	Occam's Toothbrush: According to CNN, three witnesses
		According to CNN, three witnesses have described the DC area sniper as an "Olive-skinned man" which gives a little more credibility to the Idea that he may be a "Terrorist" as we've come to use the term.
	occam.blogmosis.com /archives/002035.html

	The law of the two or three witnesses
		The law of the witnesses was given from God with a precise purpose:"refute or confirm a truth, human or divine.
		In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
		At this point it would be very interesting to garble the great doctrines of the different churches, if they have no witnesses in the Bible or just one, surely they will fail the test.
	www.bibleman.net /Two_or_three_witnesses.htm

	SUMMA THEOLOGICA: Does the evidence of two or three witnesses suffice?
		If the witnesses disagree certain principal circumstances which change the substance of the fact, for instance in time, place, or persons, which are chiefly in question, their evidence is of no weight, because if they disagree in such things, each one would seem to be giving distinct evidence and to be speaking of different facts.
		Wherefore, according to the Philosopher (De Coelo i, 1), "we reckon 'all' and 'whole' to consist of three parts." Now we have a triple voucher when two agree with the prosecutor: hence two witnesses are required; or for the sake of greater certitude three, which is the perfect number.
		If, however, the witnesses for the same side disagree, the judge ought to use his own discretion in discerning which side to favor, by considering either the number of witnesses, or their standing, or the favorableness of the suit, or the nature of the business and of the evidence
	www.newadvent.org /summa/307002.htm

	Book of Mormon Witnesses
		Joseph Smith and the Eight Witnesses, by Harold T. (Dale) Kilbourn (1984), illustrates Joseph Smith allowing the eight witnesses to touch the gold plates from which the Book of Mormon was translated.
		The testimonies of the Three and Eight Witnesses balance the supernatural and the natural, the one stressing the angel and heavenly voice, the other the existence of a tangible record on gold plates.
		Contributions of the Three Witnesses to the translation of the Book of Mormon are detailed in Lucy Mack Smith, Biographical Sketches of Joseph Smith the Prophet and His Progenitors for Many Generations (Liverpool, 1853 [reprinted Salt Lake City, 1902 under the title History of the Prophet Joseph by His Mother Lucy Mack Smith]).
	www.lightplanet.com /mormons/basic/bom/witnesses_eom.htm

	Facts on the Book of Mormon Witnesses - Part 2
		The witnesses' testimonies as a whole are presented as objective, solid, and irrefutable, but upon close examination are seen to be subjective, ambiguous and, at times, contradictory.
		According to historical evidence, the Mormon church's customary portrayal of the witnesses as eleven men of rational and critical mindsets, unquestioned honesty and integrity and unwavering commitment to the Mormon church and the Book of Mormon is far from true.
		One of the problems with relying on the Witnesses for the authenticity of Mormonism is the testimony of David Whitmer given later in life.
	www.irr.org /MIT/bomwit2.html

	Eight Killed in Ambon Today
		AMBON, Indonesia (AP) -- Eight people were killed and several others were wounded Wednesday in two clashes between hundreds of Muslims and Christians in the Indonesian province of Maluku, police and witnesses said.
		Witnesses said the violence started when Muslim gangs attacked a Christian neighbourhood in Laha, near Pattimura airport in Maluku's capital of Ambon, about 2,300 kilometres east of Jakarta.
		Military and police forces had to fire warning shots to disperse the battling mobs but no injuries were reported because of the gunfire, said witnesses.
	www.geocities.com /alifuru67/1999/ap0109.htm

	March 2001
		Three thousand churches and one hundred and fifty monasteries were confiscated.
		There is an almost perfect correspondence between the symbolic “month” of the prophet and the historic thirty-three days of the papacy of John Paul I. And these thirty-three days were sufficient to «dismiss» the errors of Popes John and Paul who had preceded him, represented by the name he had taken.
		Having arrived three days earlier at New York Airport, he was arrested as he got off the plane, then incarcerated.
	www.crc-internet.org /mar1.htm

	Three Witnesses for the Baptists - B
		Witness their National Churches, their Popish institution of Priests, and baptizing of Infants, which are infallible Characters, to prove them Harlots like their Mother.
		I shall in the next place discover the original of the Beast which was to act the second part of that Christian Tragedy, begun by the aforesaid Nero, and continued during the ten persecutions (viz.) from the aforesaid Claudius Nero, unto Constantius Magnus, in whose days the aforesaid ten Persecutions had their period.
		That such as have and would lead the Primitive Church of Christ captive may be led themselves into captivity, and that such as have killed them with the Sword, etc. may be killed by the Sword, etc. Rev.
	users.aol.com /libcfl/witnessb.htm

	Three Witnesses What Do You Know For Sure? April 24, 2001 Back to the Bible Radio
		Deuteronomy 19:15 mentions "at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses." Matthew 18:19-20 says, "If two of you shall agree." It goes on to say, "For where two or three are gathered together in My name." You see, the idea is more than one.
		I want to receive Him as my Savior." The remarkable thing here, friend, from 1 John 5 is, God is not giving us one, not two, but three witnesses to the truth about Jesus, who is the Christ, who is the Son of God, who is our Savior.
		We have the witness of the water in that baptismal scene where the Father said, "This is My Son in whom I am well pleased." We have the witness of the blood, thinking in terms of the cross of Calvary, where Jesus died, and He was buried and rose again.
	www.backtothebible.org /radio/today.htm/20244

	Witnesses of the Book of Mormon
		After that God gave other eight witnesses, because eight is the number representing a new cycle, and the new church of Jesus Christ was just doing that: a restoration of the old Church built from Jesus was starting a new beginning.
		Three witnesses according to the Bible are a perfect testimony given to the world.
		Obviously being those people special witnesses of the new church the people against it was scrutinizing their life at the microscope trying to find even some little details to prove their wrong.
	www.bibleman.net /witnesses_of_the_book_of_mormon.htm

	Three Witnesses
		The Three Witnesses of the Book of Mormon where the three privileged men out side of the Prophet Joseph Smith who where allowed to be special witnesses to the facts of the matter concerning the coming forth of the Book of Mormon.
		The Three Witnesses not only saw the angel Moroni and handled the plates and would have heard whatever the angel said to them, but they heard the voice of the Lord commanding them to bear record to their experience.
		The point is, these three witnesses where exposed to much more understanding and knowledge of the matters concerning the Book of Mormon and its coming forth than what is summarized in their single paragraph witness statement contained in the Book of Mormon.
	www.xmission.com /~hunter/three.htm

	The Two Witnesses
		The two witnesses are identified as two olive trees, and two candlesticks, which is similar to the vision described in Zechariah 4.
		This period of three and a half years of famine corresponds to the symbolic 42 months, and the 1260 days mentioned in the prophecy of the two witnesses.
		In the prophecy of the two witnesses, the Spirit and the scriptures have "shut heaven" and caused the cessation of prophetic revelation and other "signs" to the Church.
	www.sentex.net /~tcc/rev11.html

	Seventh Day Adventist Church controversy: The Arrest and Trial of Israel Dammon
		Witnesses at the Dammon trial agreed that for several weeks he had been presiding over meetings at Garland, Exeter, and Atkinson; and that he was teaching and practicing no work, no more salvation for sinners, "holy kissing," footwashing, creeping, and rebaptism.
		Defense witness Joel Doore minimized the volume: "There was not one tenth part of the noise Saturday evening, that there generally is at the meetings I attend." But it was loud enough to astonish the prosecution witnesses.
		The witnesses all agreed on all points of any substance except whether or not Ellen Harmon was referred to as Imitation of Christ, and who was in the bedroom with Dorinda Baker and why.
	www.bible.ca /7-arrest-trial-israel-dammon.htm

	Wired News: Confident MS Scales Back Defense
		The company removed eight witnesses from its list "after reviewing the progress we made so far in our case as well as assessing the states' witnesses and what we believe are shortcomings in the states' case," Microsoft spokesman Jim Desler said Monday.
		Microsoft originally planned to call 28 witnesses in its defense during the penalty hearing.
		The nine states seeking antitrust penalties called 16 witnesses.
	wired-vig.wired.com /news/antitrust/0,1551,52189,00.html

	Chapter I
		Only subject eight described this as “rare.” Some subjects described how it raises their doubts when a witness who had a calm, pleasant and facile demeanor quickly becomes nervous and hesitant or angry and oppositional in response to a seemingly reasonable question.
		Subject seven: Subject seven responded that some witnesses exhibit “sudden shifts” in their behavior that “are precipitated by certain questions asked by the lawyers.” S/he feels that it “tells you something” when a witness who was “perfectly pleasant” becomes “angry and oppositional” after a particular question.
		S/he gave the example of witnesses “Shaking their head no and saying yes.” Subject six felt that this might indicate that the witness is “physically...
	www.jamiecredibilitystudy.com /Dissertation-C.htm

	A Picture History of Kew Gardens, NY - What you think you know about the Kitty Genovese case might not be true.
		In 1964, several months after Kitty's death, he wrote his well known book about the case called Thirty-eight Witnesses.
		Whatever the precise number, merely being "witnesses" does not necessarily mean that the 38 saw, heard or understood what was happening.
		In fact, the way it is worded, Rosenthal's statement would be true even if there had been only 2 eye witnesses.
	www.oldkewgardens.com /kitty_genovese-005.html

	The Testimony of Eight Witnesses
		And this we bear record with words of soberness, that the said Smith has shown unto us, for we have seen and hefted, and know of a surety that the said Smith has got the plates of which we have spoken.
		And we give our names unto the world, to witness unto the world that which we have seen.
		And we lie not, God bearing witness of it.
	www.keepright.net /8witness.htm

	Apocalypse soon - X files - >Eight Good Reasons Why Enoch Must Be One of the Two Witnesses!
		Rev. 11:6, Jude 9 and the three gospel accounts of the transfiguration are primarily used for support of Moses as one of the two witnesses.
		Of course, if Moses is one of the two witnesses, then we find ourselves with an interesting problem.
		With this in mind, let us consider this verse in reference to our "two witnesses".
	www.apocalypsesoon.org /xfile-11.html

	Book of Mormon Witnesses
		The testimonies of the Three and Eight Witnesses balance the supernatural and the natural, the one stressing the angel and heavenly voice, the other the existence of a tangible record on gold plates.
		Contributions of the Three Witnesses to the translation of the Book of Mormon are detailed in Lucy Mack Smith, Biographical Sketches of Joseph Smith the Prophet and His Progenitors for Many Generations (Liverpool, 1853 [reprinted Salt Lake City, 1902 under the title History of the Prophet Joseph by His Mother Lucy Mack Smith]).
		Of the perhaps 200 recorded interviews with the Three Witnesses, a significant percentage stress the spiritual intensity of the witnesses as they described the angel and the plates.
	www.lightplanet.com /mormons/basic/bom/witnesses_eom.htm

	Three Witnesses -- 51-0728 -- Sermon preached by William Branham
		That's three witnesses, John speaking, God speaking for Him, and He speaking for Himself, three witnesses that He was sent of God to fulfill the works of God.
		This Message by Brother William Marrion Branham called Three Witnesses was delivered on Saturday, 28th July 1951 at the National Guard Armory in Erie, Pennsylvania, U.S.A. The tape, number 51-0728, is 1 hour and 47 minutes, and consists of 2 cassettes.
		About three nights of the service, and they sent me back in the back, said, "A little boy got drowned out here, and the father has been in your service; and he will not permit the undertaker to move the little boy until you come and see if that was his son."
	www.nathan.co.za /message.asp?sermonum=63

	Two or Three witnesses
		Jn.5:31-32 Jesus says, "if I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true, there is another ( allos) who bears witness of me, and I know that the witness which he witnesses of me is true." Thus he refers to John the baptizer as a witness to the truth as the next passage explains.
		These and the other passages concerning witnesses would make absolutely no sense if the Father is actually Jesus, making them both one person, then there is only one witness.
		Bernard claims of Jn.8:13 that there were two witnesses to his being the Son of God.
	www.letusreason.org /Onenes17.htm

	The Three Witnesses
		Our text speaks of three witnesses, the Spirit, the water, and the blood: may the Holy Ghost who is our Interpreter, lead us into the full meaning of this very, remarkable passage.
		The Spirit of God bore witness to Christ in the types and prophecies, "Holy men of old spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost;" and Jesus Christ answers to those prophecies as exactly as a well-made key answers to the wards of a lock.
		I say not that he bears such witness everywhere, for there are many that preach in the wisdom of men, and in carnal excellency of speech, and God the Holy Ghost does not work with them, because he hath chosen other instruments.
	www.spurgeon.org /sermons/1187.htm

	CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Stoning in Scripture
		By the mouth of two or three witnesses shall he die who is to be slain....
		The execution of the criminal usually took place outside the city walls, and according to Deuteronomy 17:7, the witnesses in the case were to cast the first stone: "Thou shalt bring forth the man or the woman, who have committed that most wicked thing, to the gates of thy city, and they shall be stoned.
		The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to kill him, and afterwards the hands of the rest of the people".
	www.newadvent.org /cathen/14308a.htm

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