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  Dravidian languages - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Dravidian family of languages includes approximately 26 languages that are mainly spoken in southern India and Sri Lanka, as well as certain areas in Pakistan, Nepal, and eastern and central India.
The origins of the Dravidian languages, as well as their subsequent development and the period of their differentiation, are unclear, and the situation is not helped by the lack of comparative linguistic research into the Dravidian languages.
Dravidian languages are also characterized by a three-way distinction between dental, alveolar, and retroflex places of articulation as well as large numbers of liquids.
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 Dravidian languages   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
The existence of the Dravidian language family was first suggested in 1816 by Alexandar Campbell in his Grammar of the Teloogoo Language, in which he and Francis W. Ellis argued that Tamil and Telugu were descended from a common, non-Indo-European ancestor.
Words in Dravidian languages have the property where by reversing the consonants and applying a well defined set of transformations of the vowels, another word with a similar meaning is obtained.
Some people claim a relationship between Dravidian and the Indo-European language family: either that both descended from a common ancestor, or that Dravidian is the common ancestor of Indo-European languages.
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 Dravidian languages   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
The Dravidian family of languages includes approximately 75 languages that are mainly spoken in southern India and Sri Lanka.
The Dravidian language family was first described in 1816 by Francis Ellis[?], a British civil servant who recognized the relationship between the four literary languages as well as Tulu, Kodagu and Malto.
Phonetically, Dravidian languages are notably characterized by a three-way distinction between dental[?], alveolar, and retroflex[?] places of articulation.
www.websign.sk /dr/Dravidian_languages.html   (260 words)

  
 Elamo-Dravidian languages -- Facts, Info, and Encyclopedia article   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
In addition to Elamite and the Dravidian languages, some speculate that the extinct language or languages of the (additional info and facts about Indus Valley Civilization) Indus Valley Civilization, also known as the Harappan Civilization, may be part of the Elamo-Dravidian language family.
According to McAlpin, 20% of Dravidian and Elamite vocabulary are (A word is cognate with another if both derive from the same word in an ancestral language) cognates; a further 12% are probable cognates.
Elamite and Dravidian possess similar second-person (A function word that is used in place of a noun or noun phrase) pronouns and parallel (additional info and facts about case ending) case endings.
www.absoluteastronomy.com /encyclopedia/e/el/elamo-dravidian_languages1.htm   (436 words)

  
 nostratic   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
The term is difficult to pin down, however, as proponents have not agreed on the set of families to include.
Indo-European, Dravidian, Mongolian, South Caucasian, Tungusic, Turkic, Uralic, and perhaps Afro-Asiatic.
Dravidian: Tamil paral 'pebble, seed, stone of fruit'; Malyalam paral 'grit, coarse grain, gravel, cowry shell'; Kota parl 'pebble, one grain (of any grain)'; Kannada paral, paral 'pebble, stone' Kodagu para 'pebble'; Tulu parelu 'grain of sand, grit, gravel, grain of corn, etc.; castor seed'; Kolami Parca 'gravel'.
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 Dravidian India
Our savant notes, "The fact that several Dravidian dialects, such as Brahui, Villi [Bhilli], and Santal, are found stranded in the midst of other tongues in Baluchistan, Rajaputana and Central India testifies to te once universal diffusion of the Dravidians in India." (Iyengar 1925, p.21) Little wonder that he named his work "Dravidian India".
It is therefore contended that the bronze and iron age culture of Adichanallur is that of the early Dravidians.
But once their race had been blended with the Dravidian, the mixed stock which resulted from the union, found itself possessed of the means of putting thoughts into visible concrete form.
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 5.4. LINGUISTIC ARGUMENTS   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
Sergent suggests that the Dravidians formed a pre-Harappan population in Sindh and Gujarat, and that they were overwhelmed and assimilated, not by the invading Aryans, but by the mature-Harappan population.
Note that earlier outspoken fans of Dravidian culture didn’t mind describing the Dravidians as immigrants: unlike the Aryans, they were bringers rather than destroyers of civilization, but they were immigrants nonetheless.
For all Sergent’s details about Dravidian snake-worship, which fits in well with the classical picture of snake-worship as an “aboriginal” or at least non-Aryan element in Hinduism, it is interesting to note that he (Genèse de l’Inde, p.482, n.607) deviates from the mainstream in his etymology of nAga, “snake”.
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 Kids Be Safe : Article 'Dravidian'   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
Dravidian may refer to: The Dravidian languages including the Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam, and Kannada languages spoken especially in southern India and northern Sri Lanka.
Certain historians have interpreted that Rama was an Aryan and Ravana was a Dravidian.
Moreover, some linguistic experts and historians justified that Ramayana was written by Aryans to humiliate Dravidians; they explained that the Dravidians are depicted as Monkeys and Rakshasha.
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 IS INDUS VALLEY THE CRADLE OR CATACOMB OF THE DRAVIDIAN CIVILIZATION   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
As Dr.Mathivanan had too proven that the Indus script is Dravidian, there is no necessity to question the collective wisdom of all these scholars, yet there are schools of thought, which want to deny the Dravidian roots of the Indus Valley civilization.
But by this time the Dravidian origin of the language and culture was forgotten, not merely due to the lapse of time, but also apparently as an outcome of cultural elimination.
Instead the cradle of the Dravidian civilization is in Kumari kandam, otherwise called as Lemurian continent and Gondwana land.
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at Pirak, 1700 BCE), and with Dravidian immigration.
Dravidian immigration The observations about the early linguistic evidence from Sindh, made above, indicate that speakers of Dravidian were not a primary factor in the population of the Indus civilization, even of Sindh, and that they were immigrating into the Panjab only in middle Rgvedic times.
Dravidian In the new IA speaking, culturally Vedic "eastern territories" of the Gangetic plains some Drav.
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 Aryan Invasion Theroy and Politics: The Case of David Duke   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
A reliable chronology of the emergence of writing in northwestern India would be helpful to decide the matter, but that is what is lacking, unless you plump for the archaeological conceit of assuming that the oldest datable inscription discovered also happens to be the oldest one to have existed.
It over-confidently assumes that the structure of the language (agglutinative in the case of Dravidian, as opposed to flexive in the case of Indo-European) can be deduced from the series of signs available on the Indus seals.
All that is required is that the Harappan script was adopted and adapted by some of the satellite populations in the vicinity of the metropolitan area.
koenraadelst.bharatvani.org /articles/aid/vedicharrapans.html   (7271 words)

  
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Dravidians are the darker-skinned Indians living in South India.
The Dravidians were responsible for the Indus Valley Civilisation about 5000 years ago, while the Elamo-Dravidians that remained in the Middle East became Elamites and had their own Elamite Empire in the Middle East at around the same time.
In fact, the Sumerians, Elamites and Dravidians all existed at around the same time 5000 years ago and used to have regular contact with each other, as they may have all had similar ancestry.
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 3.4. EXCHANGES WITH OTHER LANGUAGE FAMILIES   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
As for the alleged Dravidian substratum influence on Indo-Aryan phonetics, viz.
Also, a Dravidian origin of the retroflexes would not prove the Aryan invasion, merely that the interaction of Dravidian and Indo-Aryan happened later than the latter’s separation from its IE sister branches.
Among the highest estimates is the 5% to 9% of Dravidian loans in Vedic Sanskrit proposed by F.B.J. Kuiper: Aryans in the Rigveda, Rodopi, Amsterdam 1991.
www.bharatvani.org /books/ait/ch34.htm   (6342 words)

  
 Encyclopedia: Elamo-Dravidian language family   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
Most languages are known to belong to language families (families hereforth).
Elamite is an extinct language, which was spoken in the ancient Elamite Empire.
McAlpin (1975) identified several similarities between Elamite and Dravidian.
www.nationmaster.com /encyclopedia/Elamo_Dravidian-language-family   (746 words)

  
 Learn more about Historical linguistics in the online encyclopedia.   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
Dravidian was probably spoken in the Indus Valley Civilization.
Today its descendants are mostly spoken in South India.
The connection between Elamite and Dravidian is extremely hypothetical, and Elamite has generally been considered to be unrelated to any other known language.
www.onlineencyclopedia.org /h/hi/historical_linguistics.html   (1132 words)

  
 Irankicks Football Talk - very interessting historical link
They were, however, related to the Dravidians and are now classified in the Elamo-Dravidian group.
However, it is not certain were the Dravidians originated in Iran or India, but two things are known.
One, the Dravidians are not indigenous to southern India.
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 Straight Dope Staff Report: How come we can't decipher Indus script?
Today most Dravidian speakers live in Sri Lanka and southern India, 800 miles or more from the Indus valley where the bulk of the Indus inscriptions have been found.
Further evidence that Dravidian or related languages were once spoken in the general area comes from Linear Elamite inscriptions, found in the ruins of the ancient city of Susa in southwestern Iran.
A significant percentage of words in Linear Elamite appear to be of Dravidian origin, which could mean it is descended from a hypothetical Elamo-Dravidian ancestor language, or just that it borrowed a lot of words from a Dravidian language spoken nearby.
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 Who were the Elamites ?
It is not "their" findings, it is a claim by David McAlpin, and if you knew anything about either Elamite or Dravidian studies, you would know that.
The very first, a priori, suspicion about McAlpin's work is that he finds a Dravidian etymology for _every_ Elamite word, and that's simply not credible.
No connection between the Elamite language and the Dravidian languages has been demonstrated.
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 Relationship between Dravidian and Sumerian languages ?
Austro-Asiatics have been later invaded by Dravidians (3000 BC), Indoeuropeans (2000 BC) etc. (cf http://home.att.net/~lvhayes/Langling/langpg4.htm) Diakonoff has compared Sumerian with a Munda language from India ("External Connections of the Sumerian Language," Mother Tongue III:54-62, 1997).
And thats relevant to the question, since I =was asking both about Dravidian and Sumerian and any relationship =known.
You are not able to propose which language is related to Sumerian or Elamite or Dravidian...
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 Eelavar Networks: History Net   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
Is Indus valley the cradle or catacomb of the Dravidian civilization?
The greatness of the Indus Valley Civilization and various clues that it provides to discover the first civilization on earth needs to be evaluated in the context of changing needs of our times, wherein claims and counter claims or even doctored claims are made to establish the Dravidian or the otherwise content of that civilization.
In India Sir John Marshall deserves the credit to be the first scholar to suggest that the language of the Indus Valley civilization was Dravidian.
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 Middle East Open Encyclopedia: Elamo-Dravidian   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
This is an extract from The Middle East Open Encyclopedia, made possible through the Wikimedia Foundation.
Retroflex consonants, which exist in Vedic Sanskrit and Dravidian but do not exist in Iranian or European languages could suggest a Dravidian substratum or adstratum in Vedic Sanskrit.
2.2 Dravidian and Indo-European hypotheses on the language of the Harappan script
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 Evolution of Human Languages
Tim Usher (Rosetta Project) presented the current state of the Indo-Pacific database, which has yet to be integrated into the general EHL framework.
George Starostin (EHL Project) discussed his work on comparative Khoisan and gave a talk about the position of the extinct Elam language in relation to Dravidian, Eurasiatic and Afroasiatic.
Evidence was presented in favor of Elamo-Afroasiatic affinity as opposed to traditionally postulated Elamo-Dravidian relationship.
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The appears to be close relationship between Dravidian, Manding (an African language) and the Sumerian languages.
There is full correspondence between Dravidian, Manding and Sumerian lexical items in the initial consonants d, l,m,n,t, and s.
However, one word is not enough (although there exist other arguments to point to a "Dravidian" hypothesis), we don't know too much on Dravidian in ancient times (even the Elamo-Dravidian hypothesis is just that, a hypothesis --although McAlpin's work is quite interesting), and we are still at the beginning: lack of enough evidence.
oi.uchicago.edu /OI/ANE/ANE-DIGEST/V03/v03.n140   (4983 words)

  
 is it true that Iran is the Land of the Aryans? - Stormfront White Nationalist Community   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
But it makes sense, current research suggests that the Dravidians had a much wider distribution.
Their languages were related to ancient Elamite (southwest Iran), thus we speak of an Elamo-Dravidian family of languages, which itself suggests, a band of related language spanning the entire lenght of southern Iran, into India.
Brahui, a language classified as Dravidian, and spoken in southern Pakistan is actually intermediate between Elamite and Dravidian.
www.stormfront.org /forum/showthread.php?t=87147&page=3&pp=10   (1475 words)

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