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Topic: Embrace, extend and extinguish


In the News (Wed 3 Dec 08)

  
  Info and facts on 'Embrace and extend'   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
"Embrace, extend and extinguish" (EEE) is a scornful takeoff on this by Microsoft's critics (Anyone who expresses a reasoned judgment of something), used to suggest that the stages of embracing and extending are only prefaces to extinguishing or supplanting existing work with (perhaps inferior) Microsoft alternatives.
Although the behavior is today attributed to Microsoft because of their dominant position in the computing (The branch of engineering science that studies (with the aid of computers) computable processes and structures) world, it has been present all along in both computer and non-computer history.
Extinguish: Through various means, such as driving use of their extended standard through their server products and developer tools, they increase use of the proprietary extensions to the point that competitors who do not follow the Microsoft version of the standard cannot compete.
www.absoluteastronomy.com /encyclopedia/e/em/embrace_and_extend.htm   (1039 words)

  
 Encyclopedia: Embrace, extend and extinguish
"Embrace, extend and extinguish" (EEE) is a scornful takeoff on this by Microsoft's critics, used to suggest that the stages of embracing and extending are only prefaces to extinguishing or supplanting existing work with Microsoft alternatives.
"Embrace, extend, and extinguish" is a strategy based on the network effect, the idea that the value of a product to a potential customer increases as the number of customers who already use that product increases.
Embrace, extend and extinguish (eee for short) is a phrase used to describe a business strategy, in which computer standards are embraced, extended, and extinguished.
www.nationmaster.com /encyclopedia/Embrace,-extend-and-extinguish   (536 words)

  
 Embrace, extend and extinguish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Extinguish: Through various means, such as driving use of their extended standard through their server products and developer tools, they increase use of the proprietary extensions to the point that competitors who do not follow the company version of the standard cannot compete.
Some observers suspect that Microsoft intends to use EEE with the C# programming language, by first getting many users for the ECMA-standard version of the language, which was intentionally designed as a successor to the popular C programming language, then later adding proprietary extensions and removing support for the standards-based version.
First, Microsoft tried to extend it as Managed C++ in Visual C++.NET; however, this attempt was met with a lot of resistance as the managed extensions were poorly implemented and aesthetically unappealing.
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish   (868 words)

  
 Embrace and extend article - Embrace and extend Microsoft Internet W3C IETF ActiveX Halloween documents Linux - ...   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
"Embrace, extend and extinguish" (EEE) is a scornful takeoff on this by Microsoft's critics, used to suggest that the stages of embracing and extending are only prefaces to extinguishing or supplanting existing work, perhaps with less effective standards or work.
Some use EEE to describe Microsoft's perceived strategy toward the Internet and other standards, in particular by those who see such a strategy as unfair competition.
The phrase "embrace, extend and extinguish" should be reserved for the particular strategy outlined above; it would be inaccurate to apply the term to a subject such as Internet Explorer vs. Netscape Navigator.
www.what-means.com /encyclopedia/Embrace_and_extend   (718 words)

  
 Philip Brittan's Blog: Embrace, Extend, Extinguish on the browser?
It seems there is growing evidence that Microsoft may in fact performing a slow embrace, extend, extinguish on the Web browser.
Embrace: When Netscape introduced the first commercial browser, along with the promise that the Web would make the desktop environment irrelevant, Microsoft quickly jumped to develop Internet Explorer and used a wide array of competitive tactics to ensure that IE grabbed overwhelming share of the market and eventually pushed Netscape out of business.
Extend: For a while, Internet Explorer supported all the W3C standards for Web pages, but also added its own additional capabilities that let Web designers do things that the official standards did not support.
weblogs.java.net /pub/wlg/550   (486 words)

  
 Embrace And Extend: Information on Extend   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
A lot of podcasters are not happy with Apple's attempt to embrace and extend the format, and there are problems with Apple's podcast portal changing the podcast information such as genre, and some dodgy feed caching means that its often out of date.
Otherwise, it could be a repeat of embrace and extend - which got Microsoft into a bit of trouble back in the heyday of the browser wars.
If news of Microsoft's plans to embrace (and extend?) RSS caught your attention, check out Todd Bishop's excellent roundup of various analyses and commentaries on just what this means for life as we know it....
embraceandextend.intoextend.com   (1697 words)

  
 The UNIX Forums - Unix pros and cons
The core ideas behind this philosophy are to embrace the standards to the minimum that users will tolerate and the add proprietary extensions to the standards.
The 'embrace, extend, and extinguish' business strategy is brilliant, from a commerical perspective and Microsoft has done very well with this strategy.
UNIX-based and UNIX-like systems, on the other hand, do not have a core strategy of "embrace, extend and extinguish." The core strategy is to interoperate across a wide variety of systems based on a collaborative, open (and often slow) standards process.
www.unix.com /printthread.php?t=296   (2552 words)

  
 Troppo Armadillo: Selfishness and the community, Adam Smith and a couple of miraculous new modes of production
I agree that 'embrace, extent and extinguish' is jargon.
Similarly with your mentions of the "embrace, extend and extinguish" phenomenon and "copyleft".
As for 'embrace, extend and extinguish', I find it too commonly used by knee-jerk Microsoft-bashers in the Open Source community for it to be a neutral term.
troppoarmadillo.ubersportingpundit.com /archives/009157.html   (6631 words)

  
 Metroactive News & Issues | Burst.com
Windows is the octopus that Microsoft executives use to "embrace, extend and extinguish" all other technological life forms that get in its way.
The idea most people were exploring, Lang says, "was to extend TV over the Internet." But he had a different idea.
"'Embrace, extend, extinguish' is a phrase key Microsoft executives use repeatedly to do their business," says Spencer Hosie, Burst's lead attorney on the case.
www.metroactive.com /papers/sonoma/03.16.05/burstdotcom-0511.html   (3896 words)

  
 Search Results: eee - ABCNEWS.com
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Embrace, extend and extinguish" (EEE) is a scornful takeoff on this by Microsoft's critics, used to suggest...
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 Microsoft's Kerberos Shuck and Jive
Microsoft critics have long deplored the company's cavalier attitude toward standards, famously summed up as "embrace, extend and extinguish," a phrase attributed to the current head of the software giant's Windows group, Paul Maritz, during the ongoing Microsoft antitrust trial.
The implication is that Microsoft embraces standards that ensure basic interoperability on the Internet but adds proprietary extensions to those standards that make rival systems less interoperable - with the intent of extinguishing competition.
That interoperability does not, however, extend to the authorization process (the system that decides if a particular user has access to resources on the network), which is the part Microsoft addressed in that carefully guarded undefined field.
www.thestandard.com /article/0,1902,14996,00.html   (535 words)

  
 Orange Crate - The Mysteryman's Chronicles   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
Embrace, extend and extinguish is their philosophy, and they have just now embraced the committee who will soon find out what a calamity they have allowed.
Microsoft will undoubtedly use its key position as chair to extend their reach within the ABA and recommendations that favor their ongoing perhaps even on the select antitrust committee itself.
If they do face an impasse, they will simply block the efforts of that committee and keep any recommendations from issuing forth that would negatively impact their monopoly position.
www.orangecrate.com /article.php?op=Print&sid=615   (656 words)

  
 developerWorks : Blogs : Bob Sutor   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
With XML so effectively extending the basics of HTML and HTTP, the Internet is now poised to become the universal platform of computation and communications.
What it does is guarantee that people who embrace these technologies cannot deny others the same rights of access, implementation, and deployment that were granted to them when they first embraced.
Interestingly, the anarchy licensed protocols at that time entered a new kind of demilitarized zone, where every attempt to "embrace, extend, and extinguish" vital Internet protocols were met with an ever growing and massive public derision the Internet itself hosted.
www-128.ibm.com /developerworks/blogs/dw_blog_comments.jspa?blog=384&entry=84048   (2091 words)

  
 Embrace and extend   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
The three stages of the EEE strategy appear to be unfolding as follows: Embrace: Microsoft publicly announces that they are going to support a standard.
Therefore, in the subject Java programming language Java vs. Microsoft.NET.NET, EEE would not strictly apply, either, because.NET is marketed under the Microsoft brand name.
First, Microsoft tried to extend it as Managed-C-Plus-Plus Managed C++ in Visual C++.NET, however, this attempt was met with a lot of resistance as the managed extensions were poorly implemented and aesthetically unappealing.
read-and-go.hopto.org /Microsoft/Embrace-and-extend.html   (1030 words)

  
 Ralph Nader/In the Public Interest   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
Just as Microsoft used its Windows monopoly to threaten the competition, so it is using its Office franchise to scare off competitors and dominate new Internet markets.
Its preferred strategy is the notorious "embrace, extend, and extinguish" gambit: embrace the new Internet authoring tools as part of the dominant Office software suite; extend control of the new market by introducing proprietary standards that are incompatible with competitors'; extinguish competing software through manipulative licensing and bundling deals with OEMs.
The court should require Microsoft to separate Microsoft Office from Windows, and the new owner of Office should be required to port the entire platform to multiple non-Windows operating systems.
www.sfbg.com /nader/100.html   (744 words)

  
 Intel exec: MS wanted to 'extend, embrace and extinguish' competition | Tech News on ZDNet
In the long run, he said, Microsoft (Nasdaq:MSFT) hopes to "embrace, extend and extinguish" competition by substituting the company's proprietary software for the public-domain, open technologies that have driven the frenetic growth of the Internet.
His assertions were part of testimony during Day 12 of the historic antitrust trial under way against the world's most valuable company.
McGeady, who is appearing as a government witness, also told the court that Intel shot its multimedia program "in the head" after Microsoft threatened to drop support for its microprocessors.
news.zdnet.com /2100-9595_22-512681.html   (1032 words)

  
 Power Plays: The Phenomenon of Vendor Lock-in - OSNews.com
Netscape extended on the agreed-upon standards for HTML, adding scores of new tags, and popularizing the use of tools like Javascript to make web pages more interactive, but, in doing so, totally undermined the standards, and forced other browser makers to play catch-up.
The consumer is better off in many ways, as most observers would admit that Linux has achieved a level of widespread acceptance, utility, and, yes, even uniformity, than Unix had in its many years of existence, pre-Linux.
And, though being free (Gratis) was a major factor in its popularity, it's cost in relationship to the generally-very-expensive proprietary Unix hardware-software solutions it replaced places it firmly in the Embrace, Extend, Extinguish pantheon, since undercutting a competitor's price is one of the time-honored tactics of this practice.
www.osnews.com /story.php?news_id=11029&page=2   (814 words)

  
 Microsoft keeps its open source enemies close - ZDNet UK Insight
The company supports extending software patents in the EU, and unapologetically defends its right to use software patents as a weapon in the US.
In releasing Windows communications protocols to competitors, as required by last year's European Commission antitrust ruling, Microsoft attached licensing conditions that block open source projects like Samba from using the protocols effectively.
In the mean time, few believe Microsoft will be able to find a way to co-opt or extinguish open source.
insight.zdnet.co.uk /0,39020415,39206463-4,00.htm   (834 words)

  
 license-discuss@opensource.org: 3297: Re: namespace protection compatible with the OSD?   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
Derived Works The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original software.
However, since any derivative works of a strong copylefted license must also be open source, it is difficult to impossible for an unscrupulous person to use software under a strong copyleft license to do an "embrace, extend, and extinguish" strategy.
I personally am not all that bothered about obfuscated interfaces, *provided* that open source programmers are legally permitted to reverse-engineer them.
www.crynwr.com /cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi/3/3297   (391 words)

  
 Microsoft on trial: Intel exec a 'prima donna' with a grudge - Printer friendly - ZDNet UK News   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
Are you just trying to embarrass him?" Holley also introduced e-mail correspondence between McGeady and Netscape's Clark in an attempt to show that he had been fraternising with Microsoft's archenemy.
Earlier this week, McGeady testified that he heard Microsoft executive Paul Maritz declare at a September 1995 meeting that his company's goal was to "embrace, extend and extinguish" the opposition.
The attorney called into question McGeady's claims that Microsoft executives had threatened to cut off Netscape's air supply and "embrace, extend, extinguish" Internet technology, saying that those phrases failed to show up in McGeady's handwritten notes.
www.zdnet.co.uk /print?TYPE=story&AT=2069886-39020396t-10000003c   (828 words)

  
 [MLUG] RMS   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-07)
Switching to Linux on the desktop would be a huge hassle, and risky.
OK, now I get it - the GPL stops Microsoft from using its EEE approach with anything distributed under the GPL.
That is why Microsoft bigwigs *hate* the GPL and make frequent nasty comments about it.
mlug.missouri.edu /pipermail/members/2005-March/007656.html   (322 words)

  
 DDJ>Embrace, Extend, Extinguish: Three Strikes And You're Out
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish: Three Strikes And You're Out
Based on work done more than 20 years ago, Kerberos is well known, understood, and generally considered a solid system.
In the spirit of its strategy to "embrace, extend, and extinguish" open standards, however, Microsoft extended Kerberos with undocumented proprietary features in an effort to prevent interoperability -- one of Kerberos's strong suites.
www.ddj.com /documents/s=882/ddj0008q/0008q.htm   (765 words)

  
 Mono culture
However, it appears that they view the recent court of appeals decision as "The gloves are off!!!" While I don't think anyone can know that they are going to pull the embrace and extend trick with SOAP/C#/.NET, there is certainly no reason to think they couldn't.
As soon as.NET is an integral part of the Windows application landscape (essential to using Office, say), it becomes easy for Microsoft to extend it to the proprietary things that make life hard for non-Windows users.
Microsoft adopted it, ran with it, embraced and extended it, re-implemented it to over-wire compatibility level, made it possible to run over SMB (as an authenticated transport - you can do that with DCE/RPC, it's very cool).
www.advogato.org /article/301.html   (3721 words)

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