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 | | In the est Seminar, participants are subjected to tensions, harassment, deliberately foul language, and trauma. |
 | | Erhard goes on to admit in his writings that he finds it difficult to deal with people who have a belief in God. |
 | | Est claims to be non-religious, but upon examination, its concept is totally religious, attempting to replace belief in a personal God who loves and cares for us, with the impersonal, pantheistic, god of Hinduism. |
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