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  French Army uniforms used during WW1
As a result, when the brave French Infantry met the German machine guns in the opening of the war, the results was slaughter: in the first five months of war France lost some 300.000 men killed and another 600.000 wounded, captured or missing.
The rifle used by the Infantry in 1914 is often referred to as the 'Lebel', the correct title being 'Rifle 86 modified 93'; it weighed, fully loaded, 4.41 kg.
The Mle TN gasmask and its anti-gas goggles was carried in a special canister, of metal painted grey-blue, and a flattened oval section.
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 CALL OF CTHULHU
The French 75mm M1897 was sold extensively around the world in large numbers and would probably the most common weapon encountered.
This gun is commonly known as the "French 75", it stands out as the first "modern" artillery piece and it caused a revolution in artillery design creating the so called QF or quick firing gun.
It was the first artillery piece to combine a recoil system and "fixed" ammunition (one piece like a rifle cartiridge in place of seperate shell and powder charge) this increased its rate of fire by almost 3 times over that of its contemporaries.
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 RiflesMannlicher
Basically similar to the rifles of the Dutch colonial army, with the following differences: the handguard is retained by the rear sight on the one end and by the barrel band on the other end, shorter finger grooves on the stock and provision for the cleaning rod.
This rifle is a bit unusual as it has steel buttplate (most of the Indonesian short rifles have the Enfield Jungle Carbine style rubber pad on the buttplate), and bayonet lug located on the flash suppressor (rather than on the nosecap).
The rifle was rebarreled with the new, shorter one in 7.5 mm caliber (Balle 1929 C).
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 Fusil d'Infanterie Mle.1886 dit "Lebel"
The rifleman was forced to frequently to clean the rifle in order to remove this residue which was known to be highly corrosive due to the hygroscopic properties of the powder.
As with other European Armies at that time, French Tactics was that that the rifle was to be used as a single loader with the rounds in the tubular magazine being held for reserve situations when large amounts of firepower was called for.
These particular rifles were issued on a piecemeal basis, usually one per section of a regiment and to soldiers who showed excellent marksmanship.
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 A Brief History of Enfield Rifles   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
Rifles fitted with the new bolt are designated the Mk I* E, the Mk I* R, and the Mk I* W. By April 1917, the manufacture of 1.2 million P-14 rifles for the British was nearing completion.
Rifles with the fine adjustment backsight became known as the Mk I W (F) and Mk I* W (F), the “F” indicating “fine adjustment.” In April 1918, a scope-sighted model was approved.
The “T-Model” rifles were issued as a kit, consisting of the rifle itself, a leather sling, a No. 32 scope, a scope carrying case, a carrying chest for the rifle and scope.
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 The WWII Fighter Gun Debate: What preceded
As a safeguard, the French had developed wedge-shaped steel deflectors that were fitted to the propeller to protect it, but the results were not encouraging.
Therefore, the first shots in air warfare were fired with pistols and rifles, very unsuitable weapons for this kind of combat, but readily available to the crews, who often came from infantry or cavalry units.
By February 1915 the French had installed about 50 machineguns on their aircraft: Not very much, but enough to force the German aircraft to a hasty retreat whenever they appeared over the battlefield.
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 The Ultimate Lee-Enfield Dog Breeds Information Guide and Reference   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
The Lee-Enfield rifle was derived from the earlier Lee-Metford, a physically similar fl powder rifle which combined James Paris Lee's rear-locking bolt system with a barrel featuring rifling designed by William Ellis Metford.
Replacing this with a new square-shaped rifling system designed at Enfield solved the problem, and the Lee-Enfield was born.
Despite a rubber butt-pad, the.303 round produced too much recoil for the lightweight rifle to be a complete success, and it was never popular with the troops- partly because of the fierce recoil, and partly because of an alleged "Wandering Zero".
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 From   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
It may be of interest to you that I once owned a Berthier rifle Mle 16 with a three-round magazine.
Apart from the magazine it had the distinctive characteristics of a Mle 16, the inscription on the receiver and a handguard.
The advertisement was illustrated with a photograph showing a Berthier rifle with a three round magazine, no hand guard, and a straight bolt handle, presumably a regular Mle.
www.gunboards.com /sites/mrj2003/France/FrenchM16.htm   (486 words)

  
 Historic Firearm of the Month, June 2000
Indeed, France had developed an autoloading rifle development program prior to the turn of the 20th century that was expansive in both the scope of resources allocated and the number of designs actually conceived and produced.
Many in the French military establishment expressed regret that many promising autoloading rifle projects had been discontinued in 1913 based on the premise that a nation simply did not begin a massive rearmament program when war was imminent.
The rifles were assembled at MAS (one hundred rifles were assembled at MAC), and then supplied to the government for issue to the troops in the field.
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 Divisional Machine Guns
Machine gun companies that were attached to infantry battalions designated as division or brigade reserve for a particular mission were usually placed under direct command of their respective brigade commanders, to fill gaps of fire and to protect the brigade flanks.
Since the usual plan of maneuver of an infantry battalion called for three of its four rifle companies to be used as the attacking force, with the fourth company serving as a reserve, the machine gun company commander would usually place one of his three machine gun platoons in support of each maneuver company.
When they employed their guns in that fashion, the machine gun officers often ran into opposition from the rifle company commanders, who preferred to have the guns farther forward, fearing that their infantrymen would be at risk of stray low rounds as they advanced under the overhead machine gun fire.
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 The Great War Association - World War One Reenacting Page
The WWI French military hat, the Képi is made out of horizon blue wool with a rounded brim, the Mle.
The complex shape of the Adrian Helmet was inspired by the protective helmet worn by French firemen of the day; it consisted of a skull, a two-part brim and an applied raised crest, with a pressed metal badge on the front, which resembled a "flaming bomb" with the letters "RF" (République Française) in the center).
The ARS was issued from November 1917 and was a copy of the German "Lederschutzmaske" (gasmask) which featured a filter cartridge that could be changed easily, it being attached simply by screwing it in to the front of the face mask.
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 Historic Firearms Gallery   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
The rifle's one Model 1896 part is its rear sight, which was upgraded to said pattern in June, 1896 to compensate for an ammunition change introduced by the Frankford Arsenal in August 1895.
Manufactured in 1959, this rifle (serial number JO384XX) is marked with the letters "she" indicating manufacture by the Czech Arms Factory in Uhersky Brod, and a pair of crossed swords (the Czechoslovakian military acceptance mark).
This rifle has all-matching numbers; the serial number on the dust cover is electro-pencilled because this part was hardened, and any stamped numbers would have had to be added before the heat treatment.
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 The Military Rifle Journal
This site is not just the electronic version of The Military Rifle Journal; it is rather a reference for on going research projects and a repository for those articles from The Military Rifle Journal that contain useful information such as book reviews and book updates/corrections.
The article section covers such topics as the history of various military rifles, new rifle acquisitions, shooting, restoring, reloading, museums featuring military rifles, etc. All of the articles are written by subscribers and much of the information is not available elsewhere.
If you have questions about a particular rifle that you can identify, it would be appreciated if you would send your questions directly to the person who is willing to answer questions on that particular rifle.
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 Heavy Machine Guns of World War 1
The 8mm Hotchkiss Mle 1914 was the basic French heavy machine gun during the Great War, and it was also used by the American Forces in 1917-18.
In 1918 an official statement was made in the British Parliament that "the present Madsen gun is considered by many the most wonderful machine-gun of its kind ever invented" and that it was admittedly superior in many respects to the Lewis and the Hotchkiss.
The other one was a smaller, lighter, portable model, that was employed both as a mobile Light MG, and as a weapon in a number of British Tanks, among others the Mk IV and the Whippet.
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 Uniforms & Equipment Needed
The complex shape of the Adrian Helmet was inspired by the protective helmet worn by French firemen of the day; it consisted of a skull, a two-part brim and an applied raised crest, with a pressed metal badge on the front, which
The Mle 1914/15 Capotes were distributed to Metropolitan Infantry Regiments in 1917 only after they had exhausted the stocks of the simplified version of the Mle.1914/15 called the "Poiret," a single row button greatcoat used as in interim.
The theoretical ammunition issue for the poilu carrying the Lebel Rifle was four packets of eight rounds in each of the front pouches, three packets in the rear pouch and an extra four packets that was carried in either the pack or in the pockets of the overcoat, making a total of 120 rounds.
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 5mm Magnum Ammo, 5mm Magnum Ammo information   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
The unquestioned leader in magnum air rifles is the RWS Model...
The modification done to those 5mm Rimfire Magnum rifles is simply a way to keep the rifles in action.
I had never worked with a 6.5mm rifle and because it is an...
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 THR - Weapons of the Trenches   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
Most of these rifles were based on modifications made by Col. Betherier, who modified the design to use the Mannlicher system.
The French also fielded, in limited numbers, two semi-auto rifles, the Mles 1917 and 1918, but the 1918 appeared just a little too late to see active duty.
The problem with the Canadian Ross rifle was inability to handle the mud of the trenches, the possibility of improper re-assembly, and a problem with the locking system.
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 Spanish Vehicle and Ordnance Notes
FT-17M and FT-17C: The French Renault FT-17 tank was one of the most widely exported tanks in the period between World Wars I and II and saw more use in that period than any other armoured vehicle.
Their common feature was the use of an 8mm Hotchkiss machine gun mounted in a revolving turret on the top of the truck along with the secondary armament provided by up to 6-16 rifles with viewports mostly to the sides.
Canon de 155 C mle 17 S: This gun was inherited by both sides from vestiges of the Regular army and saw much use in early battles.
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 Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums - French WWII Military Rifle Question (MAS 36?)
I really don't know but the French had just converted many of their rifles and carbines to including 1890's 1892's etc...
It is so screwed up as the French seemed to have modified even the modifications and then modified them again.
Mostly used during the Rif war but the 1917 model equipped French snipers and the others were spread among all units and given to the sharpshooters.
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 FirearmsID.com- An Introduction to Forensic Firearm Identification
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 Suggestions for French and Italian Equipment for Future Reference - FileFront Gaming Forums
BTW making fun of the French should not be considered racist; it should be considered a patriotic way of dissing cowards who would not help America in Iraq.
Hell 3/4 of American soldiers were armed with pattern 1917 rifles instead of the standard springfields.
The French in 1940 fought hard but they were simply overwhelmed by superior tactics and better employment of armor.
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 Hello! - www.ezboard.com   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
As far as I know the only military straight pulls are the 1895 Lee, the two Mannlicher actions, the two Ross actions and the three Schmidt-Rubin actions plus the French Mle 1918 which was issued with the gas system disabled making it essentially a straight pull also.
My current collections includes a Chilean 1886 Mannlicher in 11 m/m, a Winchester-Lee sporting rifle by Sheard of Tacoma, an M95 stutzen in 8x50R marked Wn98, three Mk.2 Rosses, two L.C. and one not, a Mk.3 Ross DP, a 1911 rifle (1917) and a K31.
It has been well said regarding service rifles that the British made a military one, the Germans a target one and the Austrians a hunting rifle.
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 SecurityArms Firearms Photo Index
British Army Individual Weapon AKA SA80 Assault rifle
HK G36 Rifle with 3.5X Scope (Import Version)
M76 Yugoslavian Sniper Rifle 7.92 x 57 (8mm Mauser)
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 Collecting and Shooting the Military Surplus Rifle (2006) - Surplusrifle.com   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
With 25 sets of targets and 20 shooters, the Guns of August match had a pretty good turn out considering only very specific rifles were allowed.
There were 4 Central, 8 Neutral and 13 Allied target sets, all shot at 100 yards.
I always had an interest in history especially "The Great War" and when I turned 18, I started collecting and shooting the different rifles used in both World Wars.
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 British Hand Grenade No.34, WWI - Inert-Ord.Net   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
The No.34 Hand Grenade was developed to counter the introduction of the German Model 1917 Eierhandgranate.
The British explored a number of ideas for this small fragmentation grenade with maximum throwing range, developing a total of five Marks of this type.
Japanese Type 99 Rifle or Hand Grenade (WWII)
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 Antique Guns: Message Board Area   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
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