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	Gorgias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Gorgias (Greek: Γοργίας, circa 483-375 BC), Greek sophist, pre-socratic philosopher and rhetorician, was a native of Leontini in Sicily.
		Gorgias is also known for contributing to the diffusion of the Attic dialect as the language of literary prose.
		Gorgias explains that, by nature, the weak are ruled by the strong, and, since the gods are stronger than humans in all respects, Helen should be freed from her undesirable reputation.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Gorgias (2672 words)

	GradeSaver: Gorgias Essay: A Tainted Dialogue
		Plato's deliberate prevarication of Gorgias and his techn is a consequence of his disdain for Sophists; furthermore, this prejudice is manifest in the dialogue.
		Gorgias contends that even if perfect perceptions of reality were humanly possible, communicating these truths via logos would serve to taint their final conveyed form.
		Plato's dialogue the Gorgias calls into question the ethicality of Gorgianic rhetoric and erroneously concludes that rhetoric engenders unfounded conviction and is thus irrational and unethical.
	www.gradesaver.com /classicnotes/titles/gorgias/essay1.html (1300 words)

	20th WCP: The Dramatic Setting of the Gorgias
		Gorgias claims that he can answer all questions and that in fact he has not been asked a new question for many years.
		Gorgias is made to face Socrates directly, and is deprived of the veil of appearance provided by the many witnesses who surround him.
		He intends to find out "who Gorgias is" and what the power of his techne is. While Gorgias' sympathetic audience seems unable to ask him unexpected questions, Socrates' unexpected arrival and his unwillingness to submit to another long display suggest that his questions may indeed surprise Gorgias, find him unprepared and vulnerable.
	www.bu.edu /wcp/Papers/Anci/AnciFuss.htm (3644 words)

	Plato's Gorgias
		Gorgias is made to see the necessity of a further limitation, and he now defines rhetoric as the art of persuading in the law courts, and in the assembly, about the just and unjust.
		Gorgias illustrates the nature of rhetoric by adducing the example of Themistocles, who persuaded the Athenians to build their docks and walls, and of Pericles, whom Socrates himself has heard speaking about the middle wall of the Piraeus.
		Gorgias is compelled to admit that if he did not know them previously he must learn them from his teacher as a part of the art of rhetoric.
	www.ancienttexts.org /library/greek/plato/gorgias.html (21766 words)

	Gorgias (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-20)
		Gorgias (483-376 BC) was a Sophist from Leontini, Sicily who first traveled to Athens in 427 as an ambassador from his city.
		Gorgias employs Zeno of Elea's ideas about multiplicity and motion to support his first premise.
		Many of Gorgias' writings are unrecovered and only excerpts exist in paraphrases such as Plato's dialogue, "Gorgias" and the "Sextus Empiricus."Gorgias was a student of Empedocles, and also used Zeno of Elea's works to support his philosophies.
	personal.ecu.edu /mccartyr/ancient/athens/Gorgias.htm (393 words)

	James Boyd White on Socrates (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-20)
		The true aim of a dialogue that works this way, of the Gorgias among others, is nothing less than the shared reconstitution of self and language.
		The language of the Socratic dialogue is "not an artificial or theoretical language, based upon stipulative definitions that are then combined into propositions connected by the laws of logic, but is instead what might be called a natural or poetic language, in which terms have overlapping and inconsistent meanings, internal complexities and lacunae.
		Accordingly, in establishing this language the dialogue proceeds not by logical progression from premise to conclusion but in an associative fashion, with many reptitions of question, idea, and term, often leaving a subject only to return to it later, perhaps in a surprising way.
	www.wvu.edu /~lawfac/jelkins/fragments/whiteonsocrates.html (1423 words)

	Gorgias, 3-39, due 1-18, 5pm \| Computer Writing and Research Lab
		Gorgias might argue that the good in rhetoric consists merely in the quality (and therefore effectiveness) of persuasion--regardless, and independent of, the end toward which it is used.
		Gorgias stated that oratory is for the greatest good because it conveys power to he that wields it.
		As such Gorgias was right to add a loophole such that if his students do not use their skill of stringing words together, much as a musician strings notes, then it is the student and not his teacher who should be held responsible.
	www.cwrl.utexas.edu /?q=node/535 (3361 words)

	The Internet Classics Archive \| Gorgias by Plato
		O Chaerephon, there are many arts among mankind which are experimental, and have their origin in experience, for experience makes the days of men to proceed according to art, and inexperience according to chance, and different persons in different ways are proficient in different arts, and the best persons in the best arts.
		Now I think, Gorgias, that you have very accurately explained what you conceive to be the art of rhetoric; and you mean to say, if I am not mistaken, that rhetoric is the artificer of persuasion, having this and no other business, and that this is her crown and end.
		Then hear me, Gorgias, for I am quite sure that if there ever was a man who-entered on the discussion of a matter from a pure love of knowing the truth, I am such a one, and I should say the same of you.
	classics.mit.edu /Plato/gorgias.html (8078 words)

	Gorgias - LoveToKnow 1911
		His chief claim to recognition consists in the fact that he transplanted rhetoric to Greece, and contributed to the diffusion of the Attic dialect as the language of literary prose.
		Gorgias is the central figure in the Platonic dialogue Gorgias.
		The genuineness of two rhetorical exercises (The Encomium of Helen and The Defence of Palamedes, edited with Antiphon by F. Blass in the Teubner series, 1881), which have come down under his name, is disputed.
	www.1911encyclopedia.org /Gorgias (221 words)

	Gorgias (dialogue)
		Gorgias refers to the last dialogue that Plato wrote before leaving Athens.
		It features Socrates and Gorgias participating in a microcosm of the sophist-philosopher debate that raged throughout ancient Athens.
		Whereas the sophists were relativists who believed that rhetoric was a useful tool that could exploit the imperfection of human knowledge, Plato and the philosophers proposed the existence of a transcendental, perfect knowledge.
	www.mlahanas.de /Greeks/LX/GorgiasDialogue.html (230 words)

	SparkNotes: Gorgias: General Summary (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-20)
		Gorgias is a detailed study of virtue founded upon an inquiry into the nature of rhetoric, art, power, temperance, justice, and good versus evil.
		As such, the dialogue both maintains independent significance and relates closely to Plato's overarching philosophical project of defining noble and proper human existence.
		Gorgias is the famous orator (for whom this text was named), the questioning of whom serves as catalyst for the debates around which Gorgias centers.
	www.sparknotes.com /philosophy/gorgias/summary.html (793 words)

	Gorgias, by Plato (gorgias) (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-20)
		GORGIAS: That good, Socrates, which is truly the greatest, being that which gives to men freedom in their own persons, and to individuals the power of ruling over others in their several states.
		SOCRATES: Now I think, Gorgias, that you have very accurately explained what you conceive to be the art of rhetoric; and you mean to say, if I am not mistaken, that rhetoric is the artificer of persuasion, having this and no other business, and that this is her crown and end.
		GORGIAS: And you will observe, Socrates, that when a decision has to be given in such matters the rhetoricians are the advisers; they are the men who win their point.
	etext.library.adelaide.edu.au /p/plato/p71g/gorgias.html (16975 words)

	SparkNotes: Gorgias: 447a–453a
		When Gorgias first replies that rhetoric is a science of words, Socrates points out that it is not (for example) a science of words about health.
		Unable to elude vagueness, Gorgias replies that rhetoric focuses on "the greatest and noblest of human affairs" and he immediately meets with opposition in the form of Socrates's claim that many believe their own skills and trade to be the most noble of all practices.
		This lack exemplifies a general problem with rhetoric, a conflict that is itself Socrates's target in his debunking of this practice: it is the skill of oration, rather than the accumulation of knowledge.
	www.sparknotes.com /philosophy/gorgias/section1.html (1035 words)

	Plato, Gorgias ToC: The Online Library of Liberty (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-20)
		The conclusion of the Dialogue is remarkable, (1) for the truly characteristic declaration of Socrates (p.
		Gorgias is made to see the necessity of a further limitation, and he now defines rhetoric as the art of persuading in 454the law courts, and in the assembly, about the just and unjust.
		And in a similar spirit he declares in the Gorgias that the statcly muse of tragedy is a votary of pleasure and not of truth.
	oll.libertyfund.org /Home3/HTML.php?recordID=0408 (20478 words)

	Gorgias (dialogue) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		It features Socrates debating Gorgias, Polus, and Callicles in a microcosm of the sophist-philosopher debate that raged throughout ancient Athens.
		It is in this section that Plato offers one of the most famous critiques of rhetoric, calling it a form of flattery, a "ghost or counterfeit of a part of politics", and compares it to cookery.
		Also noteworthy about the dialogue is that it mentions and quotes Epicharmus of Kos, one of the first comedic poets.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Gorgias_(dialogue) (800 words)

	Tragedy in the Gorgias
		Gorgias doesn't pretend to teach justice, only to give his pupils a means of "looking" just by the tricks of rhetorics.
		Socrates tries to bring them together in dragging Gorgias back in the discussion when he explains his theory of kolakeia (theory is for the logos), without completely letting Polus out (see 465a).
		At that point, Gorgias looks for a complete agreement of the other "parts of his soul", but, three pages later, at 461b, we can see this agreement was faked when Polus jumps in, showing that Gorgias could not keep his thumos under control and "loses his temper".
	plato-dialogues.org /email/950903_1.htm (1191 words)

	GORGIAS:E (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-20)
		Gorgias shows a Socrates dramatically involved in the ‘war and battle’ for the meaningful discourse or communication which is the key activity of human beings in community.
		Not only is Gorgias unable to answer the question of personal substance, he cannot answer the question of intellectual substance either, and give an adequate definition of his practice of rhetoric.
		The structure of the dialogue conveys the gradual corrosion of the substance of society, from the older generation, Gorgias, through the middle generation, Polus, to the younger generation, Callicles.
	www.ucd.ie /philosop/documents/GORGIAS.htm (2823 words)

	Gorgias. Cosmos of the Greek Philosophers
		According to Sextus Empiricus, Gorgias found that existence, or being, must have a beginning, or it would be unlimited and therefore nowhere.
		But if being began in being, it did not begin but already was, and it could not have begun in not-being, because then not-being would have had to be some kind of being.
		Yet, Gorgias' arguments against existence are not easily brushed aside, not even if applied to modern day big bang theory.
	www.stenudd.com /myth/greek/gorgias.htm (185 words)

	GORGIAS
		Cal. Yes, Gorgias, but I must complain of the habitual trifling of Socrates; he is always arguing about little and unworthy questions.
		Let me now remind you of what I was saying to Gorgias and Polus; I was saying, as you will not have forgotten, that there were some processes which aim only at pleasure, and know nothing of a better and worse, and there are other processes which know good and evil.
		I too, Gorgias, should have liked to continue the argument with Callicles, and then I might have given him an "Amphion" in return for his "Zethus"; but since you, Callicles, are unwilling to continue, I hope that you will listen, and interrupt me if I seem to you to be in error.
	www.sacred-texts.com /cla/plato/gorgias.htm (17413 words)

	Plato's Gorgias
		In Plato's Gorgias, Gorgias of Leontini, a famous teacher of rhetoric, has come to Athens to recruit students, promising to teach them how to become leaders in politics and business.
		This dialogue blends comic and serious discussion of the best human life, providing a penetrating examination of ethics, the foundations of knowledge, and the nature of the good.
		The text of each dialogue is presented in a new translation, helping to bring each work to life for students and non-academic audiences.
	www.pdcnet.org /agorapg.html (230 words)

	Gorgias_outline
		The Gorgias does not belong to the earliest period of of Plato's works, that of the so-called 'Socratic dialogues' (such as the Euthyphro, Apology, Crito) which are clearly meant to represent with some accuracy the way in which his teacher Socrates actually conducted his philosophical activity.
		As Zeyl, our translator, says in his introduction, the theme of the dialogue is a choice of lives: the life of the orator/politician vs. that of the philosopher, represented by Socrates, which can also be thought of as the opposition between the pursuit of truth and mere opinion.
		P is unable or unwilling to engage in the right sort of inquiry, into the essence of oratory or what it really is - he can only define it by saying it is the best or most admirable of the crafts.
	userwww.service.emory.edu /~philsks/Gorgias_outline.html (1118 words)

	Plato - Dialogues - 15. Gorgias (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-20)
		[Soc.] And the same, Gorgias, is true of the other arts:-all of them treat of discourse concerning the subjects with which they severally have to do.
		[Soc.] Now I think, Gorgias, that you have very accurately explained what you conceive to be the art of rhetoric; and you mean to say, if I am not mistaken, that rhetoric is the artificer of persuasion, having this and no other business, and that this is her crown and end.
		[Soc.] Then hear me, Gorgias, for I am quite sure that if there ever was a man who-entered on the discussion of a matter from a pure love of knowing the truth, I am such a one, and I should say the same of you.
	www.classicallibrary.org /plato/dialogues/15_Gorgias.htm (16357 words)

	Amazon.com: Gorgias: Books: Plato,Donald J. Zeyl (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-20)
		The struggle which Plato has Socrates recommend to his interlocutors in Gorgias - and to his readers - is the struggle to overcome the temptations of worldly success and to concentrate on genuine morality.
		The famed orator Gorgias is in town, and Socrates is most anxious to have a discussion with him.
		When Gorgias enters the discussion, Socrates treats him very well, as a respectable man with whom he disagrees, and Gorgias for his part is never flustered by Socrates' description of his art as a knack and as a form of pandering.
	www.amazon.com /Gorgias-Plato/dp/0872200175 (1667 words)

	Plato's Gorgias : background (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-20)
		In the dialogue, the sophist Callicles gives a most entertaining performance, as a young man with no morals, who believes that as long as he can get away with it, anything goes.
		Socrates tries to argue him down, and apparently succeeds (after all, Plato wrote the book!) - but we, the readers, know he's cheating.
		He doesn't really have the answer to Callicles' uncompromising amorality, and the dialogue ends with a poetic attempt to defend the unprovable - that physical pleasure does not bring happiness, and that it is better to be on the receiving end of someone else's bad conduct than to behave badly yourself.
	www.users.globalnet.co.uk /~loxias/plato/gorgias.htm (200 words)

	Gorgias Press - Cultures in Dialogue (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-20)
		Cultures in Dialogue returns to print sources by women writers from the East and West.
		1935) actively encouraged dialogues between Turkish and British women at the outset of the twentieth century.
		Despite an impressive legacy, Ellison and her work have almost disappeared from the historical record; the republication of this 1915 work aims to address this neglect.
	www.gorgiaspress.com /bookshop/c-47-cultures-in-dialogue.aspx (912 words)

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