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	The Internet Classics Archive \| Gorgias by Plato
		And our friend Gorgias is one of the best, and the art in which he is a proficient is the noblest.
		Now I think, Gorgias, that you have very accurately explained what you conceive to be the art of rhetoric; and you mean to say, if I am not mistaken, that rhetoric is the artificer of persuasion, having this and no other business, and that this is her crown and end.
		Then hear me, Gorgias, for I am quite sure that if there ever was a man who-entered on the discussion of a matter from a pure love of knowing the truth, I am such a one, and I should say the same of you.
	classics.mit.edu /Plato/gorgias.html (8078 words)

	GradeSaver: Gorgias Essay: A Tainted Dialogue
		Plato's deliberate prevarication of Gorgias and his techn is a consequence of his disdain for Sophists; furthermore, this prejudice is manifest in the dialogue.
		Plato's intent to pervert Gorgianic rhetoric is also evident in his decision to force Gorgias into the background of the dialogue, leaving two pathetically incompetent students to defend themselves (and their mentor's philosophy) against the wiser Socrates (Kastely 33).
		Plato further misrepresents Gorgianic rhetoric by asserting that rhetoric functions solely as flattery and hence is not concerned with the "greatest good." Plato has Gorgias legitimate this falsification by stating that the rhetorician has the ability to persuade a "crowd" more successfully than an expert (McComiskey 25).
	www.gradesaver.com /classicnotes/titles/gorgias/essay1.html (1300 words)

	Gorgias [Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy]
		Gorgias (483-375 B.C.E) Gorgias was a Sicilian philosopher, orator, and rhetorician.
		Gorgias rejects the use of pathos (emotional appeal) in his Defense, with the assertion that "among you, who are the foremost of the Greeks...there is no need to persuade such ones as you with the aid of friends and sorrowful prayers and lamentations" (B11a.33).
		In the dialogue Gorgias, Plato (through his mentor Socrates) expresses his contempt for sophistical rhetoric; all rhetoric is "a phantom of a branch of statesmanship (463d)...a kind of flattery...that is contemptible," because its aim is simply pleasure rather than the welfare of the public.
	www.utm.edu /research/iep/g/gorgias.htm (2325 words)

	Plato on Rhetoric and Poetry (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
		Plato certainly thought that matters of the greatest importance hang in the balance, as is clear from the famous statement that “there is an old quarrel between philosophy and poetry” (Rep.
		Plato has in his sights all of “poetry,” contending that its influence is pervasive and often harmful, and that its premises about nature and the divine are mistaken.
		Gorgias is forced by successive challenges to move from the view that rhetoric is concerned with words to the view that its activity and effectiveness happen only in and through words (unlike the manual arts) to the view that its object is the greatest of human concerns, namely freedom.
	plato.stanford.edu /entries/plato-rhetoric (12966 words)

	Gorgias [Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy]
		Gorgias (483-375 B.C.E) Gorgias was a Sicilian philosopher, orator, and rhetorician.
		Gorgias rejects the use of pathos (emotional appeal) in his Defense, with the assertion that "among you, who are the foremost of the Greeks...there is no need to persuade such ones as you with the aid of friends and sorrowful prayers and lamentations" (B11a.33).
		In the dialogue Gorgias, Plato (through his mentor Socrates) expresses his contempt for sophistical rhetoric; all rhetoric is "a phantom of a branch of statesmanship (463d)...a kind of flattery...that is contemptible," because its aim is simply pleasure rather than the welfare of the public.
	www.iep.utm.edu /g/gorgias.htm (2325 words)

	Gorgias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Gorgias (Greek: Γοργίας, circa 483-375 BC), Greek sophist, pre-socratic philosopher and rhetorician, was a native of Leontini in Sicily.
		Gorgias is also known for contributing to the diffusion of the Attic dialect as the language of literary prose.
		Gorgias explains that, by nature, the weak are ruled by the strong, and, since the gods are stronger than humans in all respects, Helen should be freed from her undesirable reputation.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Gorgias (2684 words)

	Gorgias of Leontini
		Gorgias was from Leontini, a city state on the east coast of Sicily, just north of Syracuse, the putative home of Greek rhetoric.
		Gorgias figures as the senior practitioner of rhetoric whom Socrates opposes in Plato's Gorgias.
		"Gorgias' Encomium to Helen and the Defense of Rhetoric." Rhetorica 1 (1983): 1-16.
	www.wfu.edu /~zulick/300/gorgias/gorgiasfiles.html (802 words)

	Gorgias: Encyclopedia II - Gorgias - Critics
		Plato’s dislike for sophistic doctrines is well known, and it is in his eponymous dialogue that both Gorgias himself as well as his rhetorical beliefs are ridiculed (McComiskey 17).
		In the Gorgias Plato distinguishes between philosophy and rhetoric, characterizing Gorgias as an orator who entertains his audience with his eloquent words and who believes that it is unnecessary to learn the truth about actual matters when one has discovered the art of persuasion (Consigny 36).
		Plato answers Gorgias by reaffirming the Parmenidean ideal that being is the basic substance and reality of which all things are composed, insisting that it is a philosophical dialectic distinct from and superior to rhetoric (Wardy 52).
	www.experiencefestival.com /a/Gorgias_-_Critics/id/1435031 (476 words)

	Gorgias: Encyclopedia II - Gorgias - Introduction
		Gorgias is also known for contributing to the diffusion of the Attic dialect as the language of literary prose.
		Gorgias’ surviving rhetorical works (Encomium of Helen, Defense of Palamedes, On Non-Existence, and Epitaphios) exist in the form of rhetorical exercises that were used to teach his pupils and demonstrate various principles of rhetorical practice (Leitch, et al 29).
		Gorgias argues that speech has a power (dunamis) that is equivalent to that of the gods and as strong as physical force.
	www.experiencefestival.com /a/Gorgias_-_Introduction/id/1435029 (563 words)

	Plato, Gorgias ToC: The Online Library of Liberty (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-18)
		Gorgias is made to see the necessity of a further limitation, and he now defines rhetoric as the art of persuading in 454the law courts, and in the assembly, about the just and unjust.
		Gorgias is compelled to admit that if he did not know them previously he must learn them from his teacher as a part of the art of rhetoric.
		Plato seems to make use of them when he has reached the limits of human knowledge; or, to borrow an expression of his own, when he is standing on the outside of the intellectual world.
	oll.libertyfund.org /Home3/HTML.php?recordID=0408 (20478 words)

	Gorgias (dialogue) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Whereas the sophists were relativists who believed that rhetoric was a useful tool that could exploit the imperfection of human knowledge, Plato and the philosophers proposed the existence of a transcendental, perfect knowledge.
		It is in this section that Plato offers one of the most famous critiques of rhetoric, calling it a form of flattery, a "ghost or counterfeit of a part of politics", and compares it to cookery.
		The purpose of politics being to establish justice and virtue throughout the whole of society, Plato believed that rhetoric, through its creation of falsehoods, was the root of evil in the Athenian state.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Gorgias_(dialogue) (805 words)

	Gorgias: Encyclopedia II - Gorgias - Rhetorical Works
		In their writings, Gorgias and other sophists, “[speculated] about the structure and function of language” as a framework for expressing the implications of action and the ways decisions about such actions were made” (Jarratt 103).
		Gorgias explains that, by nature, the weak are ruled by the strong, and, since the gods are stronger than humans in all respects, Helen should be freed from her undesirable reputation.
		Gorgias explains: “Speech is a powerful master and achieves the most divine feats with the smallest and least evident body.
	www.experiencefestival.com /a/Gorgias_-_Rhetorical_Works/id/1435030 (1727 words)

	20th WCP: The Project of Self-Education in Plato’s Protagoras, Gorgias, and Meno
		Socrates’; conversation with Gorgias, too, focusses on what Gorgias’ techne, rhetoric, is (G 448eff.), and whether it is in fact a techne (see G 462e-466a and 502d, but also the less frequently cited 480c-481b and 503a-b).
		(9) Note Gorgias’ apparently genuine interest in the conversation at 463d-464b, 497b, and 506b, and compare this with Polus’ response to Socrates at 480e and Callicles’ withdrawal from the conversation at 505c, 505d, 506c, 510a, 513e, and 522e.
		The recollection of the Meno is the precisely paired opposite to Callicles’ withdrawal from conversation in the Gorgias; "recollection" merely names the activity of the interlocutor which has, all along, been implied by the nature of Socratic conversation.
	www.bu.edu /wcp/Papers/Anci/AnciTurn.htm (3250 words)

	Plato's Gorgias
		Gorgias is made to see the necessity of a further limitation, and he now defines rhetoric as the art of persuading in the law courts, and in the assembly, about the just and unjust.
		Gorgias is compelled to admit that if he did not know them previously he must learn them from his teacher as a part of the art of rhetoric.
		Plato seems to make use of them when he has reached the limits of human knowledge; or, to borrow an expression of his own, when he is standing on the outside of the intellectual world.
	www.ancienttexts.org /library/greek/plato/gorgias.html (21766 words)

	Gorgias (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-18)
		Gorgias (483-376 BC) was a Sophist from Leontini, Sicily who first traveled to Athens in 427 as an ambassador from his city.
		Gorgias employs Zeno of Elea's ideas about multiplicity and motion to support his first premise.
		Many of Gorgias' writings are unrecovered and only excerpts exist in paraphrases such as Plato's dialogue, "Gorgias" and the "Sextus Empiricus."Gorgias was a student of Empedocles, and also used Zeno of Elea's works to support his philosophies.
	personal.ecu.edu /mccartyr/ancient/athens/Gorgias.htm (393 words)

	Plato V Sophists (or, philosophy v rhetoric)
		Plato’s view: rhet has potential for harm and for good – thus there is a sense of moral responsibility here, and Plato sees this morality as an essential, universal good that must be discovered through language.
		Plato’s main concern with the Sophists is that their rhetoric does not provide an adequate view of justice
		Gorgias answers that it offers a truth that is the greatest good (doxa-again) as well as mastery over others – rhet’s product is persuasion per se.
	www.uwplatt.edu /~ciesield/platovsoph.htm (707 words)

	Plato's Gorgias : background (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-18)
		He doesn't really have the answer to Callicles' uncompromising amorality, and the dialogue ends with a poetic attempt to defend the unprovable - that physical pleasure does not bring happiness, and that it is better to be on the receiving end of someone else's bad conduct than to behave badly yourself.
		This is the Big Question that Plato comes back to in the Republic: is it possible to find a rational, logical proof that the good life is better (ie makes you happier) than a life of self-indulgence, pleasure or crime?
		Plato, I sense, feels that he is right in his intuition that it is better to suffer wrong than do it - but can he prove it?
	www.users.globalnet.co.uk /~loxias/plato/gorgias.htm (200 words)

	SparkNotes: Gorgias: General Summary
		Gorgias is a detailed study of virtue founded upon an inquiry into the nature of rhetoric, art, power, temperance, justice, and good versus evil.
		Gorgias is the famous orator (for whom this text was named), the questioning of whom serves as catalyst for the debates around which Gorgias centers.
		For Plato and his teacher, the chaos of contemporary Greek society (especially in Athens) was based on the failure of most to recognize this fundamental difference.
	www.sparknotes.com /philosophy/gorgias/summary.html (793 words)

	Rhetoric
		Gorgias was Greek sophist and rhetorician, born in Sicily in 483.
		Plato's hostility towards rhetoric may in part be due to the abuses that he witnessed in Athenian public life during the decline of Athens' great experiment with democracy in the 5th century.
		Plato would consistently argue for the superiority of philosophy to rhetoric, since the rhetor's seductive language can often be used to lead men astray.
	www.molloy.edu /sophia/plato/plato_gorgias_nts.htm (1352 words)

	Amazon.com: Gorgias (Oxford World's Classics): Books: Plato,Robin Waterfield (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-18)
		The struggle which Plato has Socrates recommend to his interlocutors in Gorgias - and to his readers - is the struggle to overcome the temptations of worldly success and to concentrate on genuine morality.
		When Gorgias enters the discussion, Socrates treats him very well, as a respectable man with whom he disagrees, and Gorgias for his part is never flustered by Socrates' description of his art as a knack and as a form of pandering.
		Plato's Gorgias is one of the masterpieces not just of the Western, but of any Canon, and Waterfield's translation for Oxford World's Classics adds an informative introduction and many helpful explanatory notes.
	www.amazon.com /Gorgias-Oxford-Worlds-Classics-Plato/dp/0192836307 (1647 words)

	Harvard University Press: Lysis. Symposium. Gorgias by Plato
		Plato, the great philosopher of Athens, was born in 427 BC.
		Much else recorded of his life is uncertain; that he left Athens for a time after Socrates' execution is probable; that later he went to Cyrene, Egypt, and Sicily is possible; that he was wealthy is likely; that he was critical of 'advanced' democracy is obvious.
		Unfinished also is Plato's last work of the twelve books of Laws (Socrates is absent from it), a critical discussion of principles of law which Plato thought the Greeks might accept.
	www.hup.harvard.edu /catalog/L166.html (347 words)

	Gorgias, by Plato (gorgias)
		GORGIAS: That good, Socrates, which is truly the greatest, being that which gives to men freedom in their own persons, and to individuals the power of ruling over others in their several states.
		SOCRATES: Now I think, Gorgias, that you have very accurately explained what you conceive to be the art of rhetoric; and you mean to say, if I am not mistaken, that rhetoric is the artificer of persuasion, having this and no other business, and that this is her crown and end.
		GORGIAS: And you will observe, Socrates, that when a decision has to be given in such matters the rhetoricians are the advisers; they are the men who win their point.
	etext.library.adelaide.edu.au /p/plato/p71g/gorgias.html (16975 words)

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		Cal. Yes, Gorgias, but I must complain of the habitual trifling of Socrates; he is always arguing about little and unworthy questions.
		Let me now remind you of what I was saying to Gorgias and Polus; I was saying, as you will not have forgotten, that there were some processes which aim only at pleasure, and know nothing of a better and worse, and there are other processes which know good and evil.
		I too, Gorgias, should have liked to continue the argument with Callicles, and then I might have given him an "Amphion" in return for his "Zethus"; but since you, Callicles, are unwilling to continue, I hope that you will listen, and interrupt me if I seem to you to be in error.
	eserver.org /philosophy/plato/gorgias.txt (17645 words)

	Plato Gorgias
		Plato’s Gorgias is the newest edition to the Focus Philosophical library, a series of inexpensive modern translations designed to provide contemporary students with access to the world's greatest thinkers.
		The transport of Plato’s thought and the metamorphosing of his language into our idiom is to take his soul, as it were, to a different realm, not of heaven, but where the great thinker may continue to exert his influence upon the living.
		When, however, the connotative range of a word in Greek would not allow for a consistent translation in English without damage to an understanding, we have used a different word, and, where the substitution was of an important word, we have indicated the change in the footnotes.
	www.pullins.com /Books/02433PlatoGorgias.htm (482 words)

	Gorgias. Cosmos of the Greek Philosophers
		According to Sextus Empiricus, Gorgias found that existence, or being, must have a beginning, or it would be unlimited and therefore nowhere.
		But if being began in being, it did not begin but already was, and it could not have begun in not-being, because then not-being would have had to be some kind of being.
		Yet, Gorgias' arguments against existence are not easily brushed aside, not even if applied to modern day big bang theory.
	www.stenudd.com /myth/greek/gorgias.htm (185 words)

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