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	The Forgotten Soldier: Fact or Fiction?
		Guy Sajer's book THE FORGOTTEN SOLDIER is rather notorious in the historical community; the book purports to be the memoirs of an Alsatian who served with the Division for the last years of the Second World War.
		Sajer claims more convincingly that on the eve of the Kursk offensive he was assigned as a replacement to the 5th Company of one of the division's infantry regiments which certainly did exist.
		Sajer recalls in his book that upon receipt of their cuff titles he and his comrades in arms were ordered to sew it onto their left sleeve a patent error since they should have been told to sew it onto their right sleeve.
	members.shaw.ca /grossdeutschland/sajer.htm (8344 words)

	Compare Prices and Read Reviews on Guy Sajer - The Forgotten Soldier. at Epinions.com
		During that time the young Guy Sajer is transformed into a shadow, a wraith, a man who already in every sense of the word has died, other than uttering his last breath.
		Sajer's narrative skillfully encompasses the vastness of the Russian war, while constantly maintaining its focus on the microscopic existence of himself and his fellow comrades.
		Sajer is merciless in his depiction of some of the people who he runs across in his journeys across the East Front.
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	sajer3 (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
		Sajer claims, more convincingly, that on the eve of the Kursk offensive he was assigned as a replacement to the 5th Company of one of the division's infantry regiments, which certainly did exist.(l0) Kennedy fails to mention this in his analysis.
		Sajer recalls in his book hat, upon receipt of their cuff titles, he and his comrades in arms were ordered to sew it onto their left sleeve, a patent error, since they should have been told to sew it onto their right sleeve.
		The surname Sajer is the maiden name of his mother, who had been born in Gotha, Germany.(l8) In an interview in 1969 with his German publisher, Sajer disclosed that his father, a Frenchman from Auvergne in south-central France, had moved his family from Wissembourg in Alsace to Lorient prior to the outbreak of the war.
	www.custermen.net /sajer/sajer3.htm (5215 words)

	Brandenburgers (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
		Sajer and his girl go out to the Tempelhof district for a picnic, and amuse themselves watching the Luftwaffe airbase.
		Sajer’s own little kampfgruppe soon was reduced to only a fraction of its authorized vehicle strength.
		Sajer escaped on one of the last vessels to leave the doomed city.
	members.aol.com /TFGrantel/books/forgotten.html (776 words)

	The Forgotten Soldier Summary
		The Forgotten Soldier is an account of Guy Sajer, half French, half German recruited into the German Army and sent to fight on the Russian Front in the summer of 1942.
		Sajer was one of thousands of recruits brought to the Russian Front to keep the momentum of Hitler's dream of beating the Soviets and obtaining the vast resources, particularly oil fields, that this would bring him.
		In the spring of 1943, Sajer and his friend volunteer for the Gross Deutschland division, a sort of German equivalent of a guards unit, encouraged to do so mainly out of comradeship, but also drawn by the status and better treatment that this elite unit promises.
	www.shvoong.com /books/history/27122-forgotten-soldier (760 words)

	THE FORGOTTEN SOLDIER - Guy Sajer (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
		Sajer is the exemplary soldier of true human endurance as starvation was an incessant worry.
		We feel that Sajer and his friends were nothing more than ordinary people striving to stay alive.
		In fact, Sajer goes on to say that he never really intended to publish the book since it revealed his deepest feelings.
	recit.cadre.qc.ca /~cmontreal/article.php3?id_article=284 (612 words)

	"The Forgotten Soldier" Sajer, Guy - History Forum
		Its greatest advantage is that Sajer did not have a more formal education, which means that the reader is presented with a very crude (and therefore more "authentic") description of the life of the infantrymen in the Eastern Front.
		I came to Guy Sajer's The Forgotten Soldier _clean_, having read none of the criticism as to the accuracy of certain details.
		The details, the conversations, the internal musings of a young man in the middle of the Russian campaign (and of a 30-something narrator/author trying to make sense of it all) are apart of a time and place students of the period should study.
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	article about Guy Sajer's Forgotten Soldier - Armchair General Forums
		Sajer's first training unit is a Luftwaffe unit, specifically the Stuka unit of the famous Hans-Ulrich Rudel, the most decorated pilot in the entire Luftwaffe, whom Sajer mentions by name.
		Sajer says he was in the Chemnitz/Dresden area, three hundred miles to the north, on the other side of Czechoslovakia.
		Sajer says he was in the "17th Battalion" of Grossdeutschland.
	www.armchairgeneral.com /forums/showthread.php?t=37838 (1670 words)

	TIME.com: Up the Down Steppes -- Jan. 25, 1971 -- Page 1
		In the autumn of 1942, Guy Sajer, 16, the French-speaking son of a German mother, cockily double-timed into Russia to help recharge the Third Reich's blitzkrieg on the steppes.
		With a kind of death grip, Sajer holds on to his reader, simultaneously appealing to him for absolution and denying his right to judge.
		Sajer crams the reader into a truck next to a living corpse with his head half blown off.
	www.time.com /time/magazine/article/0,9171,904688,00.html (653 words)

	Amazon.ca: Forgotten Soldier (H): Books: Guy Sajer (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
		It is an unforgettable and inspiring journey towards a man's march towards certain death.
		Guy Sajer wrote an exceptionally powerful book in which he describes all the emotions that goes thru an ordinary soldier's mind during Mankind's darkest hours.
		His writing style is quite simplistic but it is realistic and poignant at the same time.
	www.amazon.ca /Forgotten-Soldier-H-Guy-Sajer/dp/1574882856 (1311 words)

	Forgotten soldier - Guy Sajer .... one word comes to mind Incredible! - Military Photos
		Guy sajer a 17 year old kid whos mother was German and Father was french, lived in in a Alsace area, where it was mostly split of germans and french.
		And since Guy Sajer was speaking from own experience I have no problems with the book really.
		The guy was with 4th ID from Normandy to the end of the war.
	www.militaryphotos.net /forums/showthread.php?t=72218 (1338 words)

	can we flatten them?? - Battlefront.com Discussion Area
		If Sajer could even bring one or two of them up to testify for him I'd be more inclined to believe but, to the best of my knowledge he has failed to bring ANYONE forward who will support his story..
		And as has been pointed out the guy that started the whole "Sajer is a fake trend" has since had his key witness (The GD division historian) retract his statement that Sajer was a fake.
		Sajer himself seems uninterested in trying to defend his book and it seems he is/was unaware of the criticisms of it.
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	Any info on "The Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer"?
		Generally it is a veteran who wrote about his time in the GD division, 43-45, he was low rank soldier (finish war as obergefreiter) so no big strategy, but the soldier each day life.
		Sajer's mother was german and his father (WWI soldier) french, they were back in Alsace after the France's battle 1940, so Guy Sajer was called for military duty as Alsace become a part of the german Reich.
		If you can find the last french edition (edition Gergovie) pick the book even if you don't read french, there is the original drawing who never was published before, and color drawing too.
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	sajer4 (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
		"Sajer, wrote, as many soldiers before him have done, what in literary terms is known as a roman a clef a novel based on real persons and events.
		I believe that Nash has become so emotionally attached to this work that he is unable to objectively separate fact from fiction, to analyze the information and discern what is true and what is not.
		Somehow Nash has broken the code in corresponding with "Sajer." I was unsuccessful, not because I did not try, but I did not approach "Sajer", in the same corroborative manner as did Nash.
	www.custermen.net /sajer/sajer4.htm (1138 words)

	I am Presently reading "Forgotten Soldier" by Guy Sajer - World Affairs Board
		There is aparantly some contraversy over the authenticity of Guy Sajer's "Forgotten Soldier" (see this for some arguments).
		There were a few errors regarding names of places, and there's no way that he could remember all that dialogue, word for word, unless he had a remarkable memory.
		Other than that, the book seems plausible enough to me. As Sajer states, in no way should his book be used as a chronological reference.
	www.worldaffairsboard.com /showthread.php?p=115845 (493 words)

	Review of the Forgotten Soldier Essay \| Student Essays
		Many people question if Guy Sajer, author of The Forgotten Soldier, is an actual person or only a fictitious character.
		He was born as Guy Monminoux in Paris on 13 January 1927.
		After the war Guy returned to France where he became a well known cartoonist, publishing comic books on World War II under the pen name Dimitri.
	www.bookrags.com /essay-2004/12/13/173138/79 (207 words)

	The Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer - WW2inColor Talk
		Sajer was a french-german grunt in the elite Greater Germany Armored division.
		however, there have been claims to the book's authenticity in that the GD rolls indicate that no Guy Sajer existed and certain events/things he said happened in fact didn't.
		also, there are no photos of guy sajer or his comarades.
	www.ww2incolor.com /forum/showthread.php?p=67850 (426 words)

	The Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer Potomac Books - Bar Brews Gift Shop
		However, I would have liked to see a bit of reflection on what motivated Guy Sajer as a soldier.
		Guy Mouminoux is a great writer, he writes like the cartoons he draws.
		He may well have served in the German Army but the author is a year younger than the Sajer character and most likely did not serve in Grossdeutschland based on his errors and his Alsatian heritage.
	www.barbrews.com /r-2/m-Books/b-2376/a-1574882864/Default.aspx (935 words)

	Guy Sajer
		You won't be on all his, You saw where this guy sajer Shannon and Strobik came to see if he'll say that guy sajer.
		She loved to talk, when he was well aware of guy sajer particular scene in pink and nile green for another, you have any sense of justice?
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	Feldgrau.net :: View topic - Forgotten Soldier
		Guy Sajer never existed, and he never was where he said he was.
		He uses and takes Guy Sajer at face value, which is a problem.
		Remember, Guy Sajer, was never older than 19 when these events take place, and to someone that young things might be alittle overwhelming and he might embellish things alittle But, that does not mean he wasn't there.
	www.feldgrau.net /phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=160 (1680 words)

	The Forgotten Soldier
		Sajer replied almost immediately squelching any further speculation about his book's authenticity.
		Although not his real last name (Guy is his real first name), Sajer is his mother's maiden name.
		After reading several letters from Sajer, Spaeter admitted in a letter to me that he now believes that Sajer
	www.deutschesoldaten.com /books/sajer.htm (8343 words)

	History Forum > "The Forgotten Soldier" Sajer, Guy
		Mar 1 2006, 10:32 PM I'm writing a paper on Guy Sajer's "The Forgotten Soldier" the memoirs (contested, to some degree) of a French/German young man on the Eastern Front.
		Mar 1 2006, 10:53 PM Guy Sajer's book is a classic IMO.
		There are a number of others of a similar vein and I'll do a quick check tonight when I get home to retrieve exact titles etc., that deal with individual accounts by German soldiers about the Russian Campaign.
	www.simaqianstudio.com /forum/lofiversion/index.php?t5582.html (588 words)

	Amazon.fr : Forgotten Soldier: Livres en anglais: Guy Sajer (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
		This is the horror of World War II on the Eastern Front, as seen through the eyes of a teenaged German soldier.
		At first an exciting adventure, Guy Sajer's war becomes, as the German invasion falters in the icy vastness of the Ukraine, a simple, desperate struggle for survival against cold, hunger, and above all, the terrifying Soviet artillery.
		As a member of the elite Gross Deutschland division, he fought in all the great battles, from Kursk to Kharkov.
	www.amazon.fr /Forgotten-Soldier-Guy-Sajer/dp/1574882864 (404 words)

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		An international bestseller, this is a German soldier's first-hand account of life on Russian front during the second half of World War II.
		When Guy Sajer joins the infantry full of ideals in the summer of 1942 the German army is enjoying unparalleled success in Russia.
		However, he quickly finds that for the foot soldier the glory of military success hides a much harsher reality of hunger, fatigue and constant deprivation.
	www.orionbooks.co.uk /MP-39070/The-Forgotten-Soldier.htm (235 words)

	FYI New Models Announced - 1911Forum (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
		Guys, I'm new to the forum......I've a Kimber Stainless on order.
		sir guy, thank you for the infos and the time to answer my question, appreciate it
		I also agree with bradvanhorn's post that it would be nice to see Kimber make a run of CDP 5" in 9mm.
	www.1911forum.com /forums/showthread.php?t=116109 (709 words)

	Books, Posters, and Original Items
		Panzer and Infantry in Action by Guy Sajer
		Crossing between Cranz and Koenigsberg by Guy Sajer
		The following 13 photos are reproductions of fl-and-white drawings by Arend and Gotschke, and can be purchased as a complete set ($100) or individually ($9 each), dimensions of these are 11.5"x17" (29.5cm x 42cm), heavy card stock.
	www.blitzmilitaria.com /id17.htm (150 words)

	Ever See a Ruger Convertible with the Top Down ? - THR (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
		Last edited by guy sajer : September 20th, 2004 at 09:47 PM.
		I tried at the time to find the magazine article, but couldn't locate it; I wanted to see what the writer really said.
		I often wonder who is the bigger fool, the guy who writes stuff like that or the guy who tries it.
	thehighroad.org /showthread.php?t=102533 (726 words)

	Forgotten Soldier - PowerBookSearch! (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
		Now it has been handsomely republished as a hardcover containing fifty rare German combat photos of life and death at the Eastern Front.
		Guy Sajer's perspective as a German foot soldier makes The Forgotten Soldier a unique war memoir.
		As a member of the elite Gross Deutschland Division, he fought in all the major battles, from Kursk to Kharkov.
	www.powerbooksearch.com /booksearch1574882856.html (195 words)

	Hi all! Questions...Guy Sajer, books, movie (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
		I read the “The Forgotten Soldier” by Guy Sajer again while on vacation.
		I think it is unfortunate Herr Sajer doesn’t come out and show records and etc. but apparent he enjoys the controversy as WW2 turned him into a pessimistic cynicwhich after reading the book I certainly understand why.
		The guy can really write and the translation is very good because it flows very way and the verbage is wonderful.
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