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	Science Fair Projects - Heribert Illig
		Heribert Illig (born 1947 in Vohenstrauß, Germany) is a German historian and the leading proponent of the so-called "phantom time hypothesis" which asserts that the Dark Ages did not exist and that the approximately 300 years between 614 and 911 are an invention.
		The basis of Illig's claims is the paucity of archaeological evidence that can be securely dated to this period; perceived inadequacies of radiometric and dendrochronological methods of dating this period, and the over-reliance of medieval historians on written sources.
		One consequence of Illig's hypothesis is that Charlemagne never existed but is a fictional character.
	www.all-science-fair-projects.com /science_fair_projects_encyclopedia/Heribert_Illig (377 words)

	Heribert Illig - Wikipedia
		Heribert Illig (* 1947 in Vohenstrauß in Bayern) ist ein bekannter deutscher Chronologiekritiker.
		Illig studierte Germanist und und promovierte mit einer Arbeit über Egon Friedell; in weiteren Büchern hat Illig Friedells Werk teils ediert, teils kommentiert.
		Gemeinsam mit Gunnar Heinsohn arbeitete Illig ebenso zur Geschichte es alten Ägypten, für das sie eine Kürzung von 2000 Jahren vorschlagen.
	de.wikipedia.org /wiki/Heribert_Illig (293 words)

	philjohn.com - essays: illig the magician
		Illig is a great troublemaker, he is great in that he can stir up some discussions which indeed should be taking place - because they point to a vacuum in traditional historiography.
		Illig has become aggressive, he desperately wants to become a player in the scientific and academic communities; but that you don't get when you start insulting people, for no concrete reason.
		Illig has time and again demonstrated that he is not interested in civil discussions of his theses, he behaves like a caged animal.
	www.philjohn.com /papers/pjkd_h04.html (4295 words)

	philjohn.com - essays: illig's invented history
		Heribert Illig, a German arts historian, claims to have discovered the ultimate forgery: The invention of more than a quarter millennium in the Middle Ages, somewhere between 700 and 1000 AD.
		Illig's first book presenting his thesis[1] thus mainly deals with deconstructing, or rather, destructing this icon, not quite unconvincingly, however, failing to present the grander scheme, the larger and global scope.
		Illig cannot be truthfully accused of just being interested in the money and publicity he may get from writing such books.
	www.philjohn.com /papers/pjkd_h02.html (4510 words)

	CALENdeRsign
		Or does Illig mean to suggest here that by "time forgery" he never had meant what is understood by me and others, namely the invention of a time period that actually did not exist, but rather was the filling of a very secure occurring period of time with the falsified recording of history.
		Illig points therefore again to the leap days that were usual in the old Roman calendar to fix the day of the vernal equinox in the time of Augustus and Caesar in relation to the Gregorian reform.
		Heribert Illig, with his attack on the recording of history about Charles the Great (Charlemagne), has looked out too far out of the window and falsely maintained that Charlemagne's time itself did not take place.
	www.calendersign.com /en/cs_astrophoby.php (1553 words)

	Jan Beaufort: 30 questions about chronology
		Illig has found a number of fundamental arguments in the written history, in archaeology and in the history of architecture of the early middle-ages.
		Illig has presented several plausible motivations [see question 22] for the Western empire and for Byzantium, were he sees the origin of the expanded Chronology [see question 19] However, Illig's proposals could not end the dispute about the possible motivation.
		Heribert Illig (2003): Rückweisung der bislang gewichtigsten Kritik an der Phantomzeitthese.
	www.korthweb.de /PhZT/FAQ_E.html (12286 words)

	Heribert Illig - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Illig's hypothesis requires a widespread collaboration involving not only the Occident, but also the Byzantine Empire and the Islamic world, in order to fabricate all the synchronisms provided by the sources.
		Illig gives no credible motivation for the supposed fabrications, even assuming that they had been feasible.
		Illig's claims regarding the Gregorian Error assumed that Pope Gregory XIII's calculation of the inaccuracy in the Julian calendar, in 1582, was based on the time since the adoption of the Julian calendar, in 46 BC.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Heribert_Illig (565 words)

	Amazon.de: Bayern und die Phantomzeit: Bücher: Heribert Illig,Gerhard Anwander (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-10)
		Da ihre Entstehung damit nicht nur mitten in Herrn Illigs Phantomzeit fällt, sondern sie obendrein auch noch direkt auf Karl den Großen zurück geführt werden kann, mußte der Kanal von Herrn Illig zwangsläufig in eine andere Epoche datiert werden, zumal die Existenz der heute noch sichtbaren ruinösen Überreste des Kanals schlechterdings nicht zu leugnen ist.
		Dabei legt Herr Illig allerdings den Forschungsstand der 60er Jahre zugrunde, denn diese Zahlen wurden seinerzeit von Hans Hubert Hofmann errechnet, der aber - wie wir heute wissen - falsche Ausgangsdaten zu Grunde legte.
		Illig und Anwander haben hier mit enormen Fleiss und Energie ein Buch geschaffen, das wahrscheinlich zu einem Standardwerk werden wird.
	www.amazon.de /exec/obidos/ASIN/3928852213 (1630 words)

	Einleitung (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-10)
		Heribert Illig kuriert die Chronologie" (Seite L 31), am 26.9.1997 folgte in der Zeit (S. 64) ein Artikel von Richard Herzinger, der die Motive untersuchte, die hinter derartigen Thesen stecken.
		Der letztgenannte Artikel ist eine bemerkenswert unkritische Rezension eines neuen Buches von Uwe Topper, der ebenfalls in den "Zeitensprüngen" schreibt.
		Heribert Illig, Karl der Fiktive, genannt Karl der Große.
	home.snafu.de /tilmann.chladek/Seiten/Mittelalter.html (898 words)

	Scribd - The Phantom Time Hypothesis (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-10)
		For instance, a man named Heribert Illig (pictured), one of the leading proponents of the theory, believes that Charlemagne was a fictional character.
		But by Heribert Illig's math, the 1,627 years which had passed since the Julian calendar started should have accrued a thirteen-day discrepancy… a ten-day error would have only taken 1,257 years.
		So Illig and his group went hunting for other gaps in history, and found a few… for example, a gap of building in Constantinople (558 AD - 908 AD) and a gap in the doctrine of faith, especially the gap in the evolution of theory and meaning of purgatory (600 AD until ca.
	beta.scribd.com /word/view/115 (716 words)

	Catastrophism -> Heribert Illig's Paper from the Toronto Converence (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-10)
		If it were just Illig making that sort of statement it would be one thing but when you get Gunnar Heinsohn taking the same position you have to assume there's probably something there.
		He noted that the vikings might come in and steal all the silver and gold, all the women, all the glass and mirrors, but that they wouldn't steal the toilets and the fireplaces and the ashes in the fireplaces, and that stuff just isn't there.
		If Illig has neglected to check on the monogram then he may have erred in some of his conclusions.
	designeduniverse.com /christian_catastrophism/index.php?act=findpost&pid=147 (735 words)

	Amazon.de: Wer hat an der Uhr gedreht?: Bücher: Heribert Illig (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-10)
		Heribert Illig kennt sich bestens aus, hüpft durch die Zeiten, jongliert mit den Jahrhunderten, dass man bald aufgibt mitzurechnen und mitzudenken; er hat ziemlich sicher recht.
		Illig schreibt für Historiker und für Leute, die sich in Geschichte ziemlich gut auskennen.
		Illigs Grundthese ist, wie in seinem Bestseller "Das erfundene Mittelalter" noch deutlicher wird, dass zum Fühen Mittelalter 297 Jahre "erfunden", aber nie gelebt wurden.
	www.amazon.de /Wer-hat-gedreht-Heribert-Illig/dp/3548750648 (1748 words)

	Phantom time hypothesis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Phantom time hypothesis is a theory developed by Heribert Illig which suggests that the Early Middle Ages (614–911 AD) never occurred, meaning that all artifacts attributed to this time period are from other times and that all historical figures from this time period are outright fabrications.
		The theory also stems from the belief that during the introduction of the Gregorian calendar in Europe (1582 AD), while compensating for a ten day discrepancy in the old Julian calendar, many dates were falsely (or ineptly) recalculated as the new system created a thirteen day discrepancy.
		Heribert Illig, with Franz Löhner: Der Bau der Cheopspyramide, Mantis 1998, ISBN 3-928852-17-5
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Phantom_time_hypothesis (847 words)

	Forgeries of the Middle Ages - History Forum
		However if we accept that this emperor was the greatest invention inserted into the fake 300 year period (Illig 1994), then it becomes possible to accept the anachronisms of this palace-church and to place its creation quite accurately in time, within the framework of the Roman architectural evolution.
		All contradictions then are dispersed, if the construction of the building is placed into the second half of the XI century, near the immediate time of the construction of the dome of Speyer.
		Heribert Illig, Hat Karl der Grosse je gelebt?
	www.simaqianstudio.com /forum/index.php?showtopic=5480 (3329 words)

	Forget about the year 2000, we still live in 1703
		According to the thesis of Heribert Illig 297 years of fictious history have been inserted.
		If Heribert Illig's thesis is right, there must not be a single serious finding from that period of time.
		What stroke Illig was that hardly no of more than 1000 building mentioned in documents could actually be found.
	www.lelarge.de /wamse.html (1002 words)

	The New Chronology: The Dark Ages Didn't Exist - Uwe Topper, Heribert Illig (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-10)
		Illig already presented the research results Muscovites of the Fomenko institute to 1995 in its "time jumps".
		By rejecting the numerical data (heaths) of the Varro approximately, he arrived with his new method at a at the beginning of the yearly counting: The first year of Adam was appropriate 4173 v.
		They provide interesting arguments that these dark ages with their distinct lack of documents, graves and buildings were made up a few hundred years later, when the modern A.D. year-numbering scheme was introduced, and that Karl the Great (Charlemagne) is a character of fiction.
	www.egodeath.com /newchronology.htm (5671 words)

	RE: intellectual history
		He may be wrong, but if being wrong were a crime most people would have prison records.
		Illig's books are argued from evidence and he presents his ideas in accordance with generally accepted academic principles.
		The accuracy of AD dating (which affects the accuracy of BCE dating) is a complex problem.
	www.new-tradition.org /forum/showthread.aspx?m=99157 (602 words)

	Dr. Heribert Illig 2000 in Köln (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-10)
		Ich kann Herrn Illig nicht zustimmen, wenn er sagt, "Argumente interessierten Schütte an diesem Abend nicht", die hätten mich schon interessiert, aber es gab keine Gegenargumente seinerseits gegen meine Äußerungen zu seinem Throntext.
		Wie sagte sinngemäß Herr Illig an dem denkwürdigen Abend: Ein Massenmörder ("Sachsenschlächter") kann nicht das Vorbild Europas sein, schon deswegen kann er nicht existiert haben.
		Illig ist ein klassisches Beispiel, wie man griffige Superthesen geradezu perfekt vermarktet.
	home.snafu.de /tilmann.chladek/Seiten/Brief_Schuette.html (1719 words)

	History News Network
		When you are finished with the comments for this entry, close the window to return to "Why Historians Have a Responsibility to Condemn the Jailing of David Irving ".
		by Paul Noonan on February 21, 2006 at 6:11 PM Heribert Illig is an amateur German historian who for the past ten years or so has written several books propounding a cranky notion that the history of the Early Middle Ages was forged later in the Middle Ages.
		Illig has apparantly spawned several followers who have expanded on this theory.
	hnn.us /readcomment.php?id=80364&bheaders=1 (391 words)

	The 'Past-as-Hoax' Hoax (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-10)
		Conspiracy fantasies about this have been thriving since the early 1990s, when a German self-promoter, Heribert Illig, began to publish on the subject.
		I know less about this particular argument at first hand, but it seems that Gary Kasparov has published a sort of synthesis of these two types of argument—to judge from discussions which periodically arise on Usenet groups soc.genealogy.medieval and soc.history.medieval.
		Based on a perusal of a couple of Illig's books, and some of the stuff that floats around the Internet, it seems that such medieval chronological hoax theories boil down to something like this (in the mind of Heribert Illig or someone who buys his junk):
	home.earthlink.net /~nathanieltaylor/leaves/past-as-hoax.htm (397 words)

	Gunnar Heinsohn, Heribert Illig: Wann lebten die Pharaonen? - Rezension
		Gunnar Heinsohn und Heribert Illig korrigieren den Kalender der alten Ägypter
		Gunnar Heinsohn und Heribert Illig greifen in ihrem hochinteressanten Buch Wann lebten die Pharaonen?
		Von den ägyptologischen Instituten des deutschen Sprachraums reagierte nur ein einziges auf die grundstürzenden Thesen von Heinsohn und Illig.
	www.cpw-online.de /rezensionen/heinsohn-illig.htm (289 words)

	Buchkritik -- Heribert Illig -- Das erfundene Mittelalter
		Jahrhundert eine Fiktion darstellen, scheint auf den ersten Blick ungeheuerlich.
		Rückendeckung bekommt Illig auch von verschiedenen Forschern, die sich mit diesem Thema beschäftigt haben.
		Mögen Illigs Thesen nun zutreffen oder nicht, es bleibt eine spannende Lektüre.
	www.inkultura-online.de /illig.htm (196 words)

	Dr. Heribert Illig: Kitalált középkor - A történelem legnagyobb időhamisítása (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-10)
		Heribert Illig: Kitalált középkor - A történelem legnagyobb időhamisítása
		Merthogy Illig úr rendkívül alapos munkával bizonyítja be: kik, hogyan, hol és mikor követték el minden idők legnagyobb történelemhamisítását.
		Heribert Illig: Wer hat an der Uhr gedreht?
	www.kitalaltkozepkor.hu /heribertillig_kitalaltkozepkor.html (8913 words)

	Damn Interesting » The Phantom Time Hypothesis
		Illig, and those who subscribe to his theory, point out that carbon dating only indicates the approximate age of the item, not its calendar year.
		I don't buy it based on the evidence Illig uses, but I don't completely discount the possibility that a few extra years have been slipped into the calendar at some point.
		They weren't trying to correct for driftage since the Julian Calendar started being used; they were trying to correct for driftage since the rules for determining the date of Easter were created.
	www.damninteresting.com /?p=164 (10820 words)

	Das erfundene Mittelalter (Illig, Heribert) - günstige Shops bei dooyoo.de
		Die Behauptung, dass 3 Jahrhunderte im Nachhinein in die Geschichte hineingefälscht wurden und in Wirklichkeit Karl der Grosse niemals existierte, versucht der Autor in seinem Buch anhand verschiedener Fakten zu beweisen.
		Ob man Illig dabei Glauben schenken muss oder nicht, dass sollte jeder Leser selbst entscheiden.
		Preisvergleich starten zu Das erfundene Mittelalter (Illig, Heribert)
	www.dooyoo.de /belletristik/das-erfundene-mittelalter-illig-heribert (250 words)

	Fantomzeit - Dunkelheit oder Leere im frühen Mittelalter? » Artikel aus den ZS
		von Heribert Illig, mit einem Beitrag Jürgen v.
		Aktuelles zur Frühmittelalterdebatte und mehr von Heribert Illig
		Es gab einmal eine Gruppe von Skeptikern, die sich zusammenschloss, um Aussagen zu prüfen, die ihr zu vage oder zu ungesichert schien.
	www.fantomzeit.de /?cat=4 (1179 words)

	mental_floss magazine - Where Knowledge Junkies Get Their Fix
		The theory in question is Niemitz’s Phantom Time Hypothesis, which holds that the Early Middle Ages (614-911) are a complete fabrication, never happened, and it’s now actually the year 1709.
		A German systems analyst named Heribert Illig has of late become the theory’s most vocal champion.
		Though his claims that Charlemagne was a fictional construct don’t seem to be helping his cause, he did discover some interesting “gaps” in history which seem to, if not support his theory, at least make you wonder:
	www.mentalfloss.com /blogs/archives/2429 (607 words)

	Catastrophism > Heribert Illig's Paper from the Toronto Converence (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-10)
		Catastrophism > Heribert Illig's Paper from the Toronto Converence
		Full Version: Heribert Illig's Paper from the Toronto Converence
		Catastrophism > Catastrophism > Catastrophist Chronology: The Queen of Sheba, the Joseph/Imhotep Equation etc
	designeduniverse.com /christian_catastrophism/lofiversion/index.php?t50.html (483 words)

	World Association of International Studies » Blog Archive » re: Publishing in Europe (Christopher Jones, ...
		the case of Dr Heribert Illig’s books, have gone into more than 19
		Illig has carved out his niche in history by asserting that the “Dark
		Ages” never took place, and were concocted by Pope Sylvester, and the
	cgi.stanford.edu /group/wais/cgi-bin/index.php?p=6209 (409 words)

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