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  Animal glue - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hide glue may be supplied as granules, flakes, or flat sheets, which have an indefinite shelf life if kept dry.
Gelled hide glue does not have significant strength, so it is vital to apply the glue, fit the pieces, and hold them steady before the glue temperature drops much below 120°F. All glues have an open time, the amount of time the glue remains liquid and workable.
Where hide glue is in occasional use, excess glue may be held in a freezer, to prevent spoilage from the growth of microorganisms.
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Animal_glue   (1229 words)

  
 Hide Glue at Tools for Working Wood
Hide glue is the oldest and most traditional of all the glues used in woodworking.
Hide glue is the traditional glue for veneering, and a bit of practice you can successfully veneer without a pile of clamps or a vacuum press.
Hide glue is sold in many different "gram strengths." The higher the gram strength, the tackier and stronger the glue.
www.toolsforworkingwood.com /indextool.mvc?prodid=MS-HIDEGL.XX   (573 words)

  
 Woodworking: Making a Case for Hide Glue - In the Woodshop
Hide glue can be stained and coloured so a finish cannot be ruined by a little squeeze out caught in the pores of the wood.
A couple of dabs of hide glue will temporarily affix clamping cauls to the sides of a dovetailed, solid wood carcass: they can be tapped off with a mallet after the clamps are removed and a couple passes with a plane will remove all traces of evidence.
Hide glue may not be a product you use straight off the shelf but the time taken to prepare it is offset by its wide variety of positive attributes and, with the glue pot gurgling away, the scent of fresh glue in the air will render you wistful and nostalgic.
www.inthewoodshop.org /2005/hideglue.shtml   (2409 words)

  
 Hide Glue Production   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-25)
This is simply because of the abundance of cattle hides due to the enormous world wide consumption of beef and subsequent tanning of hides for leather.
The trimmed hide pieces (too small or irregular shapes to provide useable leather) are shipped to the hide glue plant.
Hide glue is a protein derived from the simple hydrolysis of collagen which is a principal protein constituent of animal hides.
www.bjorn.net /prod.htm   (192 words)

  
 Musical Instrument Repair Glue- Glues used to build acoustic guitars
Hide glue is one the oldest and most useful glues used in instrument making and repair.
Hide glue is purchased in a dry form, mixed with water and then heated before use.
Glue is not a filler and should not be considered a fix for a poorly fitting joint.
www.fretnotguitarrepair.com /glues.htm   (783 words)

  
 Glue FAQ
Animal (hide) glue is derived from "collagen" which is a protein constituent of hide materials, bone and connective tissues associated with the hides.
A stainable filler can be made by simply mixing the hide glue (both hot and liquid) with very fine sawdust, the finer the better) It is best to work with a light colored sawdust like maple as it is easier to color a fill darker that it is to lighten it.
Hide glue will not react with a surface coating, either under or over it, but it is wise to remove all excess.
www.vanedwards.co.uk /glue.htm   (1380 words)

  
 Hide Glue 101 - Topic Powered by eve community   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-25)
Hide glue is a protein-type adhesive that was used on all clocks and furniture until the 1950’s, and in some cases, even to the present day.
Modern glues applied to a failed glue joint will not last as long as one where hide glue is used on a joint previously bonded with hide glue.
If you use liquid hide glue in damp weather, it may take longer to dry, and if conditions are not conducive, the project may need to be taken to a drier location, assuming the glue's expiration date has not passed.
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 How to Prepare Hide Glue for Musical Instrument Repairs - violin, viola, cello, bass
Hide glue is the standard glue that is used by violin makers, and is prized for its organic nature and ability to be dissolved to remove a plate or other part of a violin and perform necessary repairs.
Hide glue is made in a double-boiler to prevent the glue from over heating or becoming scorched on the bottom.
All glue pots and brushes should be cleaned at the end of the day’s work by scalding and use of a good disinfectant as a safeguard against bacterial infection.
www.violins.on.ca /luthier/glue.html   (1685 words)

  
 Hide Glue
Most modern glues are not able to re-bond to other glues or for that matter to themselves so clean timber to timber contact is a must, especially when working on the restoration of furniture.
Hide glue comes in a powder or pearl form and is mixed weight for weight with water.
Glue is painted on the two right angled faces, the block is placed in position and then slowly but firmly rubbed up and down until the glue starts to grab and the block can no longer be moved freely.
www.ubeaut.com.au /hide.html   (878 words)

  
 Hide Glue
Old-fashion hide glue is one of the oldest kinds of adhesives on the planet, but even in this age of snazzy high-tech super glues it remains a highly useful, sometimes indispensable addition to the woodworker's arsenal of stickums.
Hide glue sets up hard when cured, so it can be sanded or machined cleanly, and it will not extrude from stressed joints or exhibit other symptoms of thermoplasticity.
Hide glue isn't perfect for every application; there are lots of glueups where it would be next to impossible to keep the glue hot while you put everything together.
www.highlandwoodworking.com /index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=107   (1511 words)

  
 Collecting antique American clocks comes as a natural outgrowth of my interest in the nation
Original formula hide glue is still produced today and remains the choice of professional craftspeople for repair and restoration of antique furniture, clocks, musical instruments and numerous other high-quality applications.
Hide glue is derived from "collagen" which is a protein constituent of animal hides, bone and connective tissues associated with the hides.
Hide glue must be warmed and maintained at a consistent temperature.
www.xrestore.com /Pages/HideGlue.htm   (1561 words)

  
 Hide Glue & Supplies at The Best Things
Hide glue is the traditional woodworking purist's choice and that is for good reason.
Hide glue must be kept warm when being used.
Hide glue joints have held well on antique furniture that is hundreds of years old, yet if you do need to pull a joint apart, with moisture and heat a hide glue joint can be reversed without damaging the workpiece.
www.thebestthings.com /newtools/hide_glue.htm   (557 words)

  
 Etherington & Roberts. Dictionary--glue
Animal glue is a protein derived from the simple hydrolysis of collagen, which is the principal protein constituent of animal hide, connective tissue and bones.
Hide glue, which is by far the superior of the two, yields a fairly neutral pH in solution, usually in the range of 6.5 to 7.4, although wider variations are possible.
These so-called flexible glues are usually prepared from high quality grades of hide glue, with the ratio of plasticizer(s) to dry glue controlling the degree of flexibility that is imparted.
palimpsest.stanford.edu /don/dt/dt1560.html   (841 words)

  
 Hot Hide Glue -- Questions and Answers
Freshly made animal hide glue is so much stronger than the wood itself that there is no comparison.
If glue is applied too slowly, or is too thick, it will break easily because a large percentage of it was getting cold while the percentage of water in the glue was too low, so your latitude to tolerate slow application time is greatly shortened.
Glue doesn't have to stink to be old.
www.player-care.com /hide_q-a.html   (4171 words)

  
 HideGlueInfo
Hide glue shrinks as it dries, and the cleat will be drawn tighter and will have sufficient strength in most cases.
Hide glue is derived from the collagen found in animal hides.
Hide glue is about 2/3 water, and it is important to pay attention to the amount of water absorbed into the work piece.
www.frets.com /FRETSPages/Luthier/Data/Materials/hideglue.html   (1294 words)

  
 Hot hide glue
he first secret of using hot hide glue is to mix the glue in a small container, then place this into the glue pot and surround it with a water bath.
The most important requirement for a hot hide glue pot is that it have a lid in place at all times when dissolving and using the glue.
Remember that hide glue gels as it cools, so without a lid the top surface of the glue cools and loses moisture, forming a skin unless constantly stirred.
www.spurlocktools.com /id57.htm   (960 words)

  
 WoodCentral Articles & Reviews
Hide glue is one of my favorite glues and one I consider almost perfect for many woodworking joints.
To prepare the hide glue, mix equal parts of water and hide glue granules into the jelly jar, and place the jar into the specially made lid, stirring occasionally.
One luthier makes a batch of hide glue and freezes it into ice cube trays, and just pops a cube out as he needs it (see Frank Ford's site, frets.com, which is a wonderful repository of knowledge).
www.woodcentral.com /cgi-bin/readarticle.pl?dir=shop&file=articles_640.shtml   (1006 words)

  
 Hide glue - Woodwork Forums
Hide glues are generally seldom used these days due to the availability of so many modern type glues.
We stock Perl Hide glue which is often used for the same purpose.
Many of the old rocking horses were coated with gesso which is a batter made from mixing hide glue water and talc or calcium carbonate (chalk dust).
www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au /showthread.php?p=4465   (518 words)

  
 ANIMAL HIDE GLUE   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-25)
Use a premium quality hide glue formulated to be water soluble and usable at different thicknesses.
Hide glue is liquid when hot or very warm and will gel or thicken if allowed to become cold.
Hide glue can be sanded smooth after drying, but pains should be taken to do the best job possible during the wet stages.
www.nativewayonline.com /glueinst.htm   (353 words)

  
 Troubled Times: Hides   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-25)
Hide scraps should be pulverized, since the paper thin hide scrapings release their glue faster than sinew.
Flexible hide glue can be made by adding glycerin in weight equal up to the dry weight of the glue.
Old literature reports that hide glue can be waterproofed by adding 40% linseed oil, but tung oil works slightly better, however the results are only mildly water resistant.
www.zetatalk.com /shelter/tshlx010.htm   (267 words)

  
 Glue - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Historically, glue only refers to protein colloids prepared from animal tissues.
The meaning has been extended to any type of glue-like substances that are used to attach one material to another.
Glue is the title of a novel, see Glue.
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Glue   (146 words)

  
 Using Hide Glue   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-25)
Hide glue is reasonably easy to work with, but it takes practice to get comfortable with it.
Usually, I weigh out 100 grams of dry glue; I use a ratio of 100 grams of glue to 180 grams of water.
I can't use volume measure because the granulated glue will be finer and have a greater density as I get to the bottom of my jar.
www.frets.com /FRETSPages/Luthier/Technique/Glue/UseHideGlue/usehideglue1.html   (269 words)

  
 MMD Archives: Hot Hide Glue
The best glues will take up 3-5 times their weight in water and will be a solid and cohesive mass that has to be "scraped" out of the glass.
Hot hide glue can be made stronger than any other kind of wood glue, as a rule, although many varieties are not.
However, the strong hide glue has less chance of that, and once you learn to be gentle and not disturb drying pneumatics, you will never have an instance of that.
mmd.foxtail.com /Archives/Digests/199604/1996.04.21.05.html   (1138 words)

  
 The Pros and Cons of Hide Glue - Woodworking.com
The first respondent brought it up, writing "hide glue was nearly worthless back in the old days and still is." He went on to describe it's brittleness, it's vulnerability to moisture and just it's lack of strength.
Another participant conceded that hide glue may not be ideal for furniture in humid climates, but also writes about hide glued joints: "As you stated, a few good whacks and they come apart.
He asserts that only hot hide glue, properly prepared by dissolving the glue flakes in 160 degree (F) water, woks as a viable adhesive.
www.woodworking.com /articles/index.cfm?fa=show&id=174   (446 words)

  
 Electric Glue Pot - Woodcraft.com
Our industrial strength glue pot takes all the hassles out of heating and using traditional water-based animal hide glues.
Hide glue should be heated in a double boiler or electric glue pot to a temperature of 130º-150º.
This traditional glue is preferred by restoration cabinetmakers, and period furniture reproducers for its authenticity.
www.woodcraft.com /family.aspx?familyid=337   (137 words)

  
 Titebond Hide glue? - Discussion Forums
Since hide glue is mainly animal protein, it is kept at a nice warm temperature, and it is wet, it makes a lovely home for all sorts of bacteria, mold, and fungi, which thrive in the same conditions it takes to make good hot glue.
I think this is what the problem with liquid hide glue is; they're trying to walk a fine line between a product that will stay liquid for a long time, and one which still has sufficient strength for woodworking.
I glues some peices together and then came back the next day, took off the clamps, and with a large flat head screwdriver (crude I know) I pretty eaisly pryed the peices apart.
www.acousticguitar.com /ubb/Forum12/HTML/000698.html   (1250 words)

  
 WoodCentral Articles & Reviews
Franklin's hide glue is nothing more than dry hide glue and urea.
The glue temp should be 120-160 degree F. The water in the sauce pan, therefore, should be hotter than you want to wash your hands in, but not boiling (or even close).
Depending on your environmental conditions, this hide glue is going to give you a couple of minutes of open time before it gels (more if it's hot and humid).
www.woodcentral.com /cgi-bin/readarticle.pl?dir=furniture&file=articles_150.shtml   (928 words)

  
 Facts About Hot Hide Glue by Craig Brougher
Any glue which relies on the evaporation and absorption of moisture away from the joint to set and to eventually dry creates a "lacy pattern" in its joint structure, through which air is able to flow unless the joint is securely clamped for 24 hours.
And because carpenter glues release their moisture into the flat, thin pneumatic boards being glued down-- long before the joint actually sets-- that moisture creates a slight warpage in many of the pneumatic leaves, which gradually warp and curl the wood, creating more skating and sliding around by the clamp pressure.
Hot hide glue dries with a 100% chemical bond on the parts, creating a perfectly airtight seal, as long as the glue consistency (which is adjustable--another great advantage) is adequate and the joint in full contact when the parts were initially placed together.
www.player-care.com /hideglue.html   (1893 words)

  
 GuitarJigs.Com: Hide Glue
ide glue has been used for thousands of years, and is considered by many to be the premier guitar making glue.
he dry glue is first mixed with water, then heated to 145°F in a glue pot or double boiler.
y storing your hide glue in various size bottles, you can choose the exact amount you need for each job without the waste.
www.guitarjigs.com /hideglue.html   (277 words)

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