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  EIR
In an historic decision, the Churchwide Assembly of the ELCA, meeting at Denver in August 1999, debated, amended and accepted CCM as "the basis for a relationship of full communion to be established between the Episcopal Church and the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America." The vote was 716 to 317, or nearly 70% in favor.
It consists in a succession in the episcopal ministry of a local church which itself lives in the continuity of the faith of the apostles and which is overseen by the bishop in order to keep it in the communion of the catholic and apostolic church.
The EC "is free to maintain that sharing in the historic catholic episcopate, while not necessary for salvation or for recognition of another church as a church, is nonetheless necessary when Anglicans enter the relationship of full communion in order to link the local churches for mutual responsibility in the communion of the larger church".
www.episcopalchurch.org /6947_9388_ENG_Print.html   (8159 words)

  
 Called to Common Mission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Conservatives within ELCA argued that requiring historic episcopate would contradict the traditional Lutheran doctrine that the church exists wherever the Word is preached and Sacraments are practiced.
In response, the 2001 ELCA Churchwide Assembly adopted a bylaw permitting ordination of pastors to be performed by another pastor with permission of the local synodical bishop in "unusual circumstances".
This would appear to contradict the agreement reached with the Episcopal Church, but that may depend on whether the bylaw is used in practice.
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Called_to_Common_Mission   (183 words)

  
 Commonweal : Half a loaf
The “historic episcopate” proved to be that ground for the Lutherans.
The “historic episcopate,” the succession of bishops that goes back to the Apostles, is deemed an essential element of the church.
Mutual recognition, however, would have allowed Lutherans to adopt the “historic episcopate” as a means, not an essential, of their church’s proclamation of the gospel, while Episcopalians could state that the ELCA had maintained the essentials of faith, even without the historic episcopate.
www.commonwealmagazine.org /article.php?id_article=257   (905 words)

  
 Defending the Orthodox Faith   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
Episcopal parishes across the country should be examining their curricula for Confirmation classes — not just for young people, but adults as well.
The unique inheritance of the Episcopal Church was to be part of that Communion that served as a faithful depository of orthodoxy; indeed, the distinguishing nature of Anglicanism is its preservation of historical catholicity.
Understand that to the continental reformers, catholicity was a theological concept before it was a historical one; they saw the essence of catholicity as being in faithfulness to the Gospel and the conduct of the Apostles in the early Church.
www.stpaulsepis.org /orthodox.html   (6414 words)

  
 ccm ed task force
The ECUSA position is that the Historic Episcopate is necessary for salvation, and necessary for a church to be a "true church!"
When an "historic episcopate" becomes a requirement for church unity, this implies God's Word, Baptism, and the Lord's Supper are not good enough to be the "signs" of unity...
Episcopal bishops are to participate as a sign of unity between the two churches (CCM 12).
www.churchofthemaster.com /ccm.htm   (7906 words)

  
 "Called to Common Mission" - Questions and Answers
Lutherans and Episcopalians together affirm "that the historic catholic episcopate under the Word of God must always serve the Gospel, and the ultimate authority under which bishops preach and teach is the Gospel itself." Further, the "canonical Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments" are embraced by both churches.
The historic episcopate is the orderly transmission of the office of bishop or overseer, with its roots in the time of the early church.
No. In "Called to Common Mission," both the ELCA and The Episcopal Church bear witness to the conviction that the historic episcopate is not essential to the church as church (paragraph 13).
elca.org /ecumenical/fullcommunion/episcopal/ccmresources/ccm_q_a.html   (4221 words)

  
 IN A PREDICTABLE
The fourth and final side of the Quadrilateral ('the historic episcopate') is the most extensively and notoriously abused.
The 'historic episcopate' exists to express and effect the relationship of each diocese (in the person of its bishop) vertically with the Church of the ages and horizontally with the contemporary world-wide communion.
That there is no such 'tradition' of diocesan autonomy in matters of doctrine or morals, and that the 'historic episcopate' exists, very largely in order to ensure that there is not, is clearly a truth about which the Episcopal Church is in denial.
trushare.com /60MAY00/my00wayl.htm   (910 words)

  
 Welcome to the Church of Norway
The Anglican acknowledgement of the historical Episcopal sees and our practice of consecrations as signs of intention to be an apostolic church were welcomed, but not made a matter of discussion in our church.
One interpretation of the entire Porvoo document had been that it “de-theologizes” the historical episcopate, regarding it no longer as “a not necessary theological construction to claim the apostolicity of the Church.” The Synod did not say that in the same way, but focused on the wider framework in which the issue has been settled.
The historic episcopal succession is accepted as a sign of continuity and unity of the apostolic Church.
www.kirken.no /english/engelsk.cfm?artid=5897   (2770 words)

  
 CCLEC Publications -- Episcopal Oversight and Ecclesiastical Discipline
In short, the objection is that, in spite of the historic episcopate, the life and doctrine of ECUSA are in such disarray that its links with the one, holy, catholic ;: o:i and apostolic church are in question.
Thus, its proposers acknowledge the fact that the historic episcopate is but a sign of apostolicity and that it can become an empty sign.
Further, neither party is claiming that the historic episcopate is a necessary implication of the Gospel.
www.episcopalian.org /cclec/paper-philturner1.htm   (4781 words)

  
 wfn.org | ELCA Synod Assembly Wants 'Historic Episcopate' Optional
In approving the proposal, the ELCA agreed to accept the historic episcopate -- the concept that those who ordain new pastors are from a line of bishops stretching back to the earliest days of the church.
The Episcopal General Convention will meet in July to vote on "Called to Common Mission." Episcopalians approved a similar document in 1997, but the ELCA Churchwide Assembly rejected it by a six-vote margin that year.
The historic episcopate is "a ceremonial appeal to human authority and is not necessary for the true unity of the Christian Church," said the resolution.
www.wfn.org /2000/04/msg00016.html   (328 words)

  
 EIR
But let's ask that devout sister or brother from the Episcopal Church, "Why is the historic episcopate important to you?" I'm quite sure they would say that it's a very positive thing for them and their church.
The historic episcopate reminds them that the church doesn't begin all over again every time there's a merger or every time a group breaks off and forms another church body--something we Lutherans need to understand.
But they also appreciate the historic episcopate as a good sign, a wholesome way of remembering that the Gospel is carried forward from one generation to the next by faithful pastors and bishops, as well as by faithful lay leaders.
www.episcopalchurch.org /6947_561_ENG_Print.html   (6434 words)

  
 Canon Veal on Anglican Polity
This was the beginning of the Anglican Communion – first autonomous Episcopal church, offspring of the C of E. Seemed to suffice… “far from intending to depart from the C.
In the Episcopal Church in the USA the highest and final authority is the General Convention, from which there is no appeal.
If an Episcopal election occurs near the time of a General Convention, then this process can be shortened by the action of the Convention and no appeal to the Standing Committees is necessary.
www.nwt.org /anglican_polity.htm   (1025 words)

  
 Denver Catholic Register - World/Nation
While some Lutheran churches have continued having their pastors ordained by bishops in the historic episcopate, others have not, and Lutherans do not see the historic episcopate as an essential mark of the church.
Under "Called to Common Mission," the Episcopal Church has temporarily suspended the application to the ELCA of the Anglican Ordinal's prohibition against exercise of ordained ministry by anyone not ordained by a bishop in the historic episcopate.
Martensen said the agreement with the Episcopal Church, however, was the first entry of the ELCA into communion with a church which regards the historic episcopate as a necessary part of its structure.
www.archden.org /dcr/archive/20010117/2001011706wn.htm   (657 words)

  
 Southwestern Minnesota Synod   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
His concern about this historic episcopate was apparently not sufficient to warrant his speaking out against numerous actions and abuses taken by our leadership in Chicago, the Council of Bishops, outspoken individual bishops, or presiding Bishop H. Anderson.
When the Episcopal Church is providing a "temporary suspension of their ordinals," that is, the rules or understanding that define what they believe, in CCM they are giving us time to convert to their way of belief.
This is clearly demonstrated in the Episcopal practice of Holy Communion where it requires a priest of the historic episcopate to officiate, with their special gift, in order for Jesus Christ’s body and blood to be present in the bread and wine.
www.rrcnet.org /~saviors/response.html   (2790 words)

  
 Thursday Theology #156 - Urban Ministry and the Historic Episcopate
Thursday Theology #156 - Urban Ministry and the Historic Episcopate
But not once did I hear the phrase "historic episcopate" raised by the 25 or so Episcopalian clergy and lay leaders nor by the rest of us who were Methodist, Lutheran, Church of God in Christ and Church of the Brethren.
But when the speeches are droning on during the August heat in Indianapolis, it won't be thoughts of the historic episcopate — or not — which will keep me focused on the work at hand.
www.crossings.org /thursday/Thur0607.htm   (829 words)

  
 Issues In Perspective with Dr. Jim Eckman
In practical terms, though it means that ELCA pastors and Episcopal priests can preside over Holy Communion and other sacraments in respective churches and that there will be greater collaboration between the two churches on many levels.
Episcopal bishops are elected for life, while ELCA bishops are elected for three-year terms.
Where Episcopalians regard the historic episcopate as a safeguard for church unity, the ELCA believes the Word and the sacraments are sufficient for this unity.
www.issuesinperspective.com /index_529.cfm   (1065 words)

  
 wfn.org | Wartburg Speaker Says Historic Episcopate for Unity, Not Salvation
"We should adopt the historic episcopate not to ensure apostolicity but for the sake of catholicity for the unity of the church," he added.
The Episcopal Church and ELCA "are in agreement in all major issues of faith," Armentrout said.
We do this not because [the historic episcopate] is essential for salvation but for the sake of unity in the church." Armentrout said the historic episcopate symbolizes modern Christians' oneness with God's people of every time and place.
www.wfn.org /2000/04/msg00038.html   (555 words)

  
 ELCA ASSEMBLY APPROVES FULL COMMUNION WITH EPISCOPAL CHURCH   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
In approving the proposal, the ELCA agreed to accept the "historic episcopate," the concept that those who ordain new pastors are from a line of bishops stretching back to the earliest days of the church.
The matter of the historic episcopate had become the focal point of debate on the fellowship proposal.
While a number of Lutheran churches around the world have the historic episcopate, it has never been a part of American Lutheran church life, and numerous voting members of the assembly said they did not believe the church needed it.
ourworld.compuserve.com /homepages/730071677h/ELCAAPPR.HTM   (1288 words)

  
 Protestantism and the Historic Episcopate   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
Second, we must insist that "episcopal authority" is not merely a definitional given--not merely an instance of a given bishop providing a list of all his predecessors in office, stretching back to the Apostles themselves in order to demonstrate an unbroken line of irresistible (?) authority.
Intriguingly, he himself had to face a great deal of episcopal opposition to his program, and was called by some of his opponents "the dangerous man" and "the schismatic Hildebrand".
True ministry can exist in a bad state just as bodily life continues during a disease; the Church and not the ministry is the fundamental thing, and so the ministry is a matter of the well-being (bene esse) of the Church and not of her being as such (esse).
www.societaschristiana.com /History/Original/ProtestantismAndEpiscopate.html   (5011 words)

  
 Some Comments on the South India Scheme
It will hardly be questioned that the historic episcopate is of the very essence of Anglicanism, and no doubt the promoters of the scheme realize this, for they say that "the uniting Churches accept the historic episcopate in a constitutional form as part of their basis of union" (p.
At the time of writing (September, 1935) it is still possible that this difficulty may be obviated by the method of "voting by houses," the votes of bishops, presbyters and laymen being taken separately.
For the thirty years after the inauguration of the union, episcopal and non-episcopal ministries are to exist side by side.
justus.anglican.org /resources/pc/india/fhood.html   (2747 words)

  
 EIR
The Episcopal Church insisted on the historic episcopate.
The rest of the churches refused to adopt the historic episcopate.
Member communions include the African Methodist Episcopal Church, African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Christian Methodist Episcopal Church, the Episcopal Church, International Council of Community Churches, Presbyterian Church (USA), United Church of Christ, and the United Methodist Church.
www.er-d.org /6947_548_ENG_Print.html   (396 words)

  
 Q&A on Called to Common Mission
11 that "‘Historic succession’ refers to a tradition which goes back to the ancient church, in which bishops already in succession install newly elected bishops with prayer and the laying-on-of-hands." It is a tradition, not part of the essence of the church or of the gospel.
In one sense, by agreeing to a doctrinal statement that echoes the language and content of the Lutheran confessions, it is the Episcopal Church that is gaining the most important thing: a living confession of the faith of the church.
In a similar fashion, the ordination of Henry Melchior Muhlenberg, a founder of the Pennsylvania Ministerium, was approved by the state-supported church consistory of Leipzig.
www.ltsp.edu /layed/ccm3.htm   (1115 words)

  
 bargain   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
On August 19, 1999, the ELCA Churchwide Assembly voted 716-317 to adopt the Episcopal historic episcopate as the permanent polity of the ELCA.
The Episcopal historic episcopate is now binding ELCA law, but as Martin Marty told the ELCA Church Council, "Episcopalians do not expect Lutherans to accept the historic episcopate as a matter of faith...
ELCA bishops are obligated to hold The Episcopal Church to its verbal acceptance of the bishops' resolution.
www.luthercomment.org /bargain.htm   (749 words)

  
 EIR
A misunderstanding has been created on the WordAlone website, and falsely attributed to me, as "admitting" that the Episcopal Church believes the Historic Episcopate to be necessary to salvation.
From their text as a whole it is clear that they were only ruling on one very narrow question, and one that has nothing whatsoever to do with the Historic Episcopate.
What they said about the Historic Episcopate they did say, but only in passing, and their comment about it has no canonical or legal standing.
www.episcopalchurch.org /6947_559_ENG_Print.html   (637 words)

  
 SD Synod ELCA: Synopsis April 2000   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
The historic episcopate is a manner of conducting ordinations of pastors that is very important to the Episcopal church and has been a part of their heritage and tradition for centuries.
Forms of the historic episcopate have also been a part of some Lutheran churches in the world, including in the United States.
Creating wiggle room on the historic episcopate didn't happen through the open process of amending and discussing CCM before and during the Churchwide Assembly in August, 1999.
inst.augie.edu /~sdsynod/Synopsis0004.html   (1511 words)

  
 The VOICE - October 1999
In the most controversial provision, the Lutherans would agree to join Episcopalians in the historic episcopate, a sign of the church's continuity with the apostolic church.
While agreeing with "the historic practice whereby the bishop is representative of the wider church," and should "regularly" preside, it concedes that there might be emergency situations in which that would not be possible.
Marty said that he celebrated both moves and said, from a historical viewpoint, it is the first time in U.S. religious history that a church has bridged the gap between churches so diversely governed-congregational, presbyterian, synodical, conferencial and episcopal.
www.dioceseofnewark.org /vox21099.html   (1086 words)

  
 Christian Century: letters - Letter to the Editor   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
The historic succession is a part of the historic episcopate, not the whole; the terms are not interchangeable.
A person is ordained into the historic episcopate, but does not "receive" it.
Neither Lutheran nor Episcopal ecumenists have yet demonstrated how the historic episcopate can be received by a nonepiscopal church with a single-order ministry.
www.findarticles.com /p/articles/mi_m1058/is_27_118/ai_79371681   (959 words)

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