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  Covenant Eschatology and the Hymanaean Heresy
The fact that Paul corrected Hymenaeus' chronology, and not his concept of the nature of the resurrection, is absolutely critical to any discussion of 2 Timothy, and yet, it is totally ignored by those who oppose Covenant Eschatology.
For Hymenaeus to suggest that the New World was perfected, inclusive of the Old World, therefore, was to say that the resurrection was past, and over throw the faith of some by insisting on the continued observance of the Old Law.
Hymenaeus, therefore, ostensibly had somewhat of a case, for as Max King has well stated, "The question is not whether the eschatological resurrection had begun, but whether it was a completed or consummated work of the quickening Spirit?" Hymenaeus could indeed effectively prove that the time had come for the resurrection.
hellbusters.8m.com /prophecy/DP/hymanaeanheresy.htm   (3454 words)

  
 Greek Mythology: HYMEN HYMENAIOS God of the Wedding Song & Ceremony ( Hymenaeus ) w/ Pictures
HYMEN or HYMENAEUS (Hymên or Hymenaios), the god of marriage, was conceived as a handsome youth, and invoked in the hymeneal or bridal song.
The poetical origin of the god Hymen or Hymenaeus is also implied in the fact of his being described as the son of Apollo and a Muse, either Calliope, Urania, or Terpsichore.
According to an Argive tradition, Hymenaeus was a youth of Argos, who, while sailing along the coast of Attica, delivered a number of Attic maidens from the violence of some Pelasgian pirates, and was afterwards praised by them in their bridal songs, which were called, after him, hymeneal songs.
www.theoi.com /Ouranios/ErosHymenaios.html   (1772 words)

  
 The Parousia
In other words, Hymenaeus and Philetus were telling the Jewish brethren that the resurrection of the dead happened under the Old Covenant system and thus were trying to lead them from Christ back to Judaism which would be apostasy (1 John 2:19).
Hymenaeus and Philetus were saying that God had consummated his promise to Israel under the covenant of the law thus "tramping the blood of Christ and calling it a unholy thing."
Hymenaeus and Philetus were telling the Jewish brethren that the resurrection of the dead already happened under the Old Covenant system trying to lead them from Christ back to Judaism.
www.newjerusalemministriesboards.com /parousia.htm   (1101 words)

  
 Error of Hymenaenism
Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some.
The assumption is then made that Hymenaeus did teach a type of non-physical resurrection, but that Paul did not correct his understanding of the nature of the resurrection, merely the timing of it.
Also, if Hymenaeus did in fact deny the proper nature of the resurrection as well, the condemnation of the timing issue would carry with it the implicit recognition of the gross error in his understanding of the nature of the resurrection.
www.tektonics.org /esch/hythere.html   (4986 words)

  
 What to Make of Hyper-Preterism
Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, men who have gone astray from the truth saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and they upset the faith of some.
Hymenaeus and Philetus referred to the Resurrection of the dead, both of the believer and the unbeliever.
The only way that Hymenaeus and Philetus could have said that the Resurrection had happened in the past is to redefine the Resurrection to have been a spiritual resurrection.
www.rustypth.com /hyperpreterism.htm   (1869 words)

  
 Why it is Perfectly OK to Say Naughty Things about Heretical Preterists!  |  Critical Articles
Therefore, if Hymenaeus didn't believe that a physical resurrection had already occurred, he must have believed in something else, probably that a spiritual resurrection of some sort had occurred in the heavenlies, which is what the heretical preterists of today believe, and which is what hyperpreterists assert that Paul believed.
So, the hyperpreterists argue, if Hymenaeus believed in a spiritual resurrection, and Paul believed in a spiritual resurrection, Paul couldn't be upset with Hymenaeus over that, and therefore, he had to be upset only over the timing of the resurrection.
Hymenaeus didn't believe in a physical resurrection, and that's why Paul was so upset with him and his friends.
www.preteristarchive.com /PartialPreterism/trotter_dan_ca_02-01.html   (8348 words)

  
 CALIPH HYMENAEUS BETA X¡Introduction Culture vs. CultDo what thou wilt shall be the whole
In this important sense, the O.T.O. is a crucible for the development of the social models necessary to a Thelemic culture, as opposed to Thelemic cult.My predecessor as head of the O.T.O., Caliph Hymenaeus Alpha 777 Xø, rescued the O.T.O. from the brink of extinction.
Hymenaeus Alpha met this trend by simple exampleÑhe established a reputation as a tolerant monarch, and thereby gave the lie to anarchy.
Caliph Hymenaeus Alpha was a pragmatist as well as a visionary, considering these papers plans for the future O.T.O. He observed the principles, and where practical, implemented them formally, as we are doing with the forthcoming promulgation of the Constitution.
www.skepticfiles.org /mys2/culture.htm   (1509 words)

  
 WHY IT IS PERFECTLY OK TO CALL HERETICAL PRETERISTS NAUGHTY NAMES
So the earliest date that Hymenaeus could have possibly taught that the resurrection had occurred is the date that Jesus ascended, which is approximately A.D. 30, which is the date the majority of scholars assign to Jesus' crucifixion, resurrection, and ascension.
So, if the dispute between Paul and Hymenaeus can't be over the TIMING of the resurrection as the heretical preterists so foolishly allege, then that leaves only one option for the subject of the dispute, namely, the NATURE of the resurrection.
Hymenaeus believed that those few that were raised at Jesus' crucifixion were all that were ever going to be resurrected.
www.thingstocome.org /perfectly.htm   (2544 words)

  
 Pantelism
Yet this confusion over the nature of 'heavenly things' is nothing new, even the literalistic thinking Nicodemus could not conceive how it was possible to be "born again" except but to enter the womb a second time [Jn 3:9-12].
Hymenaeus and Philetus were causing a lot of trouble, and like most of Paul's opposition they were Judaisers [based on Paul's constant warnings against "going back" to the Law –Judaism, this is plausible].
Had Hymenaeus and Philetus been correct, then adherence to the "Law" would also have become a requirement of faith, as it was still operative [though it had no redeeming value] while the Temple stood.
www.pantelism.com /IsTheResurrectionPast.htm   (542 words)

  
 CALIPH HYMENAEUS BETA XøIntroduction Culture vs. CultDo what thou wilt shall be the whole
Inthis important sense, the O.T.O. is a crucible for the development ofthe social models necessary to a Thelemic culture, as opposed toThelemic cult.My predecessor as head of the O.T.O., Caliph Hymenaeus Alpha 777 Xø,rescued the O.T.O. from the brink of extinction.
Hymenaeus Alpha met this trend by simple example--heestablished a reputation as a tolerant monarch, and thereby gave thelie to anarchy.
Caliph Hymenaeus Alpha was apragmatist as well as a visionary, considering these papers plans forthe future O.T.O. He observed the principles, and where practical,implemented them formally, as we are doing with the forthcomingpromulgation of the Constitution.
www.skepticfiles.org /mys2/hb-his.htm   (1357 words)

  
 In what sense did Hymenaeus and Philetus believe that the resurrection is past?   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
In II Timothy 2:17, 18 the scripture says that Hymenaeus and Philetus erred saying that the resurrection is past already and overthrew the faith of some.
Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, 18* men who have gone astray from the truth saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and they upset the faith of some.
I believe that Hymenaeus and Philetus were teaching the Gnostic doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which in essence was a doctrine similar the to teachings of the Sadducees, which stated that there was no such thing as the resurrection of the body.
www.scripturessay.com /printpage.php?id=484   (318 words)

  
 Alexander, Hymenaeus, Jannes, Jambres and Philetus   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
They refuse to believe the truth, although they have been faced with it, and God allows them to continue in their own "religious ways" until that day when "their folly shall be manifest".
And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
Hymenaeus and Philetus were linked to profane and vain babblings, increasing to more ungodliness
learnthebible.org /q-a-alexander-hymenaeus-jannes-jambres-philetus.htm   (1559 words)

  
 §12. "Hymenaeus; Laelia". XII. University Plays. Vol. 6. The Drama to 1642, Part Two. The Cambridge History of ...
A more ingenious and skilful adaptation from the Italian than Victoria, though from The Decameron and not, from a play, is the anonymous Hymenaeus, acted at St. John’s, Cambridge, probably in March, 1578/9.
In Hymenaeus, the young wife is the daughter of an elderly father, with three suitors—a doctor, a drunken German, and a young Venetian whom she favours.
It is the Venetian who drinks the potion prepared by his rival, the doctor, for the heroine’s father, and who, in consequence, goes through a series of adventures which nearly ends on the gallows, before he succeeds in winning his mistress’s hand.
www.bartleby.com /216/1212.html   (797 words)

  
 Paghat's Garden: Hawthorn Tree Myths
Hymenaeus was typically portrayed as a winged effeminate youth carrying a lit brand made from a hawthorn branch, or a lute with which to sing wedding songs, or a basket of fruits symbolic of a fruitive union.
Hymenaeus led even Zeus & Hera to their nuptial bed, but for himself he never had a female mate.
Hymenaeus was the god of wars that began over matters of desire, such as the Trojan War.
www.paghat.com /hawthornmyths.html   (1661 words)

  
 Hymenaeus Alpha: In Memoriam   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
HYMENAEUS ALPHA 777 was born as Grady Louis McMurtry on October 18, 1918 EV in Big Cabin, Oklahoma to Grady and Bee Ivery Puckett McMurtry.
He became a member of Ordo Templi Orientis in June 1941 when he was initiated to the Oº and Iº at Agapé Lodge, Pasadena.
His first profession was that of a soldier; he served in the European theatre during WWII, enabling him to become a personal student of Aleister Crowley (with time off for D-Day, and the liberation of France and the low countries).
www.netlife.fi /users/herne/oto/memoriam.htm   (388 words)

  
 Planet Preterist - A Respone to Trotter
Trotter asserts that preterists are heretics because, “ Hymenaeus and Philetus believed back then exactly what the hyperpreterist believe now: the resurrection of the dead has already occurred”.
He then asserts that preterists seek the impossible, that is, to disassociate themselves from Hymenaeus and Philetus by arguing that Paul was disagreeing with those two, not over the nature of the resurrection, but rather, over its timing.
On the other hand, I have heard of several people who have questioned their faith and even rejected Christianity because they thought the scriptures were errant regarding the numerous time sensitive predictions which in their mind failed to take place.
planetpreterist.com /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=789   (3114 words)

  
 TAARP - Appendix E - Section E 2.7 - Letter to the Ordo Templi Orientis
Duquette, Hymenaeus Beta, and Dr. Hyatt demonstrate an integration of the conscious ego with the Creative Spirit.
Hymenaeus Beta's comment on this issue, in the footnote on page xvii of "The Heart of the Master" certainly does not help me very much.
For example, what does Hymenaeus Beta really mean when he says, "For this edition, the texts for Trumps IV and XVII have been transposed to agree with their facing Trumps.
www.alpha-astrophysics.org /SectionE27.htm   (1245 words)

  
 The Journal of Biblical Accuracy: "Examine yourselves..."
Some, of whom were also Hymenaeus and Alexander, concerning the faith suffered shipwreck.
Something like this happened also with Hymenaeus, Alexander and Philetus: concerning the truth, they had strayed; concerning the faith, they suffered shipwreck.
Hymenaeus and Philetus, had strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past.
www.jba.gr /Articles/jbamay01a.htm   (3003 words)

  
 The Heathen Dogma of an Immortal Soul in Man Subsersive of the Resurrection of Jesus
There were in those days certain professors, of whom, perhaps, Hymenaeus and his brethren were some, who taught that Jesus Christ had not come in the flesh (2 John 7); yet they received the Apostles' doctrine that he did die, was buried, and rose again according to the Scriptures (1 Cor.
Hymenaeus and Philetus denied all this; and affirmed that it was mere appearance, and not reality, and that there was no flesh about him.
The "immortality of the soul", then, was the principle by which Hymenaeus and Philetus subverted the gospel of life and incorruptibility by Jesus at the resurrection; so that they affirmed "the resurrection was past already" (2 Tim.2:18) because there was "no future resurrection of the dead", seeing that, upon their hypothesis, there was none needed.
www.west.net /~antipas/books/faith_in_last_days/fld_063.html   (1136 words)

  
 PFRS Eternal Security (OSAS)
Then he named two acquaintances, Hymenaeus and Alexander, who became apostates by blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
Apparently, Hymenaeus was not content to make shipwreck of his own faith.
Paul knew, both by revelation and experience that people like Hymenaeus would abandon Christ because of a lust for fame and power.
www.pfrs.org /osas/osas04.html   (533 words)

  
 Hymenaeus - HighBeam Encyclopedia   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
Hymenaeus, in the New Testament, Christian denounced by Paul for heresy or apostasy.
Find newspaper and magazine articles plus images and maps related to "Hymenaeus" at HighBeam.
More information is at your fingertips at HighBeam Research:
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 The Interactive Bible: www.bible.ca   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
Hymenaeus was teaching falsely about the resurrection but had never been a christian
Hymenaeus was teaching the resurrection had already taken place
Hymenaeus, a false teacher, was at one time bought with Jesus' blood
www.bible.ca /fall-Hymen.htm   (113 words)

  
 Hymenaios - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In Greek mythology, Hymenaios (also Hymenaeus, Hymenaues, or Hymen; Ancient Greek: Ὑμέναιος) was a god of marriage ceremonies, inspiring feasts and songs (like wedding hymns, or epithalamia).
And when Apollo saw the boy, he was seized with love for him, and would not leave the house of Magnes" [1].
According to a later Romance, Hymenaios was an Athenian youth of great beauty but low birth who fell in love with the daughter of one of the city's wealthiest men.
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Hymenaios   (569 words)

  
 Hyper Preterism Renounced
Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, (18) who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some.
He was the first to be resurrected and I believe I will be resurrected in exactly the same manner.
Those who don’t share this hope with me do not know of the hope I have in Christ and have swallowed the gnostic lie of Hymenaeus thus painting themselves not as genuine Christians, but as damnable heretics unless they repent.
www.5solas.org /media.php?id=555   (1249 words)

  
 Thelemapedia: The Encyclopedia of Thelema & Magick | Hymenaeus Beta
Hymenaeus Beta is the current Outer Head of the Order (OHO or "Caliph") of Ordo Templi Orientis.
Following the death of Hymenaeus Alpha (Grady McMurtry), HB was elected as the new of Ordo Templi Orientis in a special election by all the active IX° members of O.T.O., where he assumed the name Hymenaeus Beta.
Frater Hymenaeus Beta XII° is the current Outer Head of the Order (O.H.O.) of Ordo Templi Orientis.
www.thelemapedia.org /index.php/William_Breeze   (427 words)

  
 Delivering people unto the devil? - Theology Review Board   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered to Satan in order that they may be disciplined not to blaspheme.
Hymenaeus is mentioned again as "one who has swerved from the truth" It is unclear whether the name "Alexander" here and in Acts 19:33,34 and 2 Tim 4:14,15 all refer to the same person.
The fact that he was disciplining them was not so much to punish but to help them learn not to blaspheme.
www.theologyreview.com /forums/showthread.php?p=37693#post37693   (1267 words)

  
 What About Hymenaeus and Philetus   |  Study Archive 
But how could Hymenaeus and Philetus be so stupid to say the resurrection had passed if everyone's conception of resurrection was bodies flying out of graves?
So what Hymenaeus and Phil were doing was negating the words of Christ and nullifying other VERY important prophecies that had to take place before that day would come (2 Thess 2:1-12).
I clicked on Hymenaeus and Philetus because I will be preaching on the effects of this kind of influence that effects the Church today and God's people.
www.preteristarchive.com /Preterism/fenley-ward_mp_01.html   (2061 words)

  
 Hymenaeus
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Hymenaeus and Alexander are two examples of this.
I turned them over to Satan so they would learn not to blaspheme God.
www.allaboutgod.com /truth-topics/hymenaeus.htm   (49 words)

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