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| | Carina Walters (Avengers foe) |
 | | In addition, it is shown that it was he who powered down Carina, because she felt doubt in that last moment, and that betrayal weakened his self-confidence to the point where he couldn't continue the fight. |
 | | I personally think that when Carina said she was an Elder, that she meant that she was the daughter of an elder, and by extension, sort of an Elder herself. |
 | | Carina however, has not been seen alive, and presumably remains dead, so unless she is shown living, she must not be an Elder. |
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