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	Consider Phlebas Information
		Taking the captured Idiran in two, who refuses to believe that Horza is on it's side, they continue the search for the Mind.
		The remaining, near death, Idiran manages to set one of the trains in the command system running on a collision course up the tunnel.
		Between the crashing train and the Idiran's fire only Horza, Balveda and the drone Unaha-Closp are left and Horza begins a wild and furious rampage after the Idiran.
	www.khantazi.org /Rec/IainMBanks/Consider.html (1266 words)

	Idiran-Culture War
		Total casualties amounted to 851.4 billion sentient creatures, including medjel[?] (slaves of the Idirans), sentient machines and non-combatants.
		The conflict was one of principles; the Culture went to war because the Idirans[?]' fanatical imperial expansion, on religious grounds, threatened the Culture's very right to exist.
		Ultimately, the conflict would appear inevitable; the Idirans would not halt their expansion, because their Faith wouldn't allow it; the Culture is so ill-defined, having no borders or laws, that it may also have grown ceaselessly -- as Horza[?], the protagonist in Consider Phlebas, observed.
	www.ebroadcast.com.au /lookup/encyclopedia/id/Idiran-Culture_War.html (219 words)

	Idiran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Idirans are biologically immortal and are very resilient to physical damage as they are protected by a natural keratinous body-armour.
		Idirans are capable of taking enormous amounts of damage and can survive massive trauma that would kill a human being instantly-for example, losing a large fraction of their head.
		The Idirans are a deeply religious people and believe in a single, rational God who wants a better existence for his creation.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Idiran (318 words)

	Idiran information - Search.com
		Idirans are biologically immortal and are very resilient to physical damage as they are protected by a natural keratinous body-armour.
		Idirans are capable of taking enormous amounts of damage and can survive massive trauma that would kill a human being instantly-for example, losing a large fraction of their head.
		The Idirans are a deeply religious people and believe in a single, rational God who wants a better existence for his creation.
	domainhelp.search.com /reference/Idiran (332 words)

	Idiran-Culture War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		The conflict was one of principles; the Culture went to war because the Idirans' fanatical imperial expansion, justified on religious grounds, threatened the Culture's "moral right to exist".
		As the Culture saw it, the Idirans' extending sphere of influence would prevent them from improving the lives of those in less-advanced societies, and thus would greatly curtail the Culture's sense of purpose.
		As Horza, the protagonist in Consider Phlebas, observed, the conflict was inevitable; the Idirans would not halt their expansion, because their Faith wouldn't allow it; the Culture is so ill-defined, having no borders or laws, that it would also have grown ceaselessly.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Idiran-Culture_War (320 words)

	Amazon.com: Idiran
		21 stowage bins 27, 157-8 'Idiran 153-9, 154-8 tweezers 7 tyres...
		between the Culture and the Idirans, a race of three-legged creatures...
		of the near immortal, tri-ped Idirans who are fighting a semi-religious...
	www.amazon.com /s?ie=UTF8&keywords=Idiran&index=blended&page=1 (806 words)

	Consider Phlebas Review
		Horza is a Changer, a constructed humanoid species, officially neutral in the Culture-Idiran war, the members of which have the ability to change their appearance over some time to exactly resemble other humans, which makes them excellent spies and moles.
		Of course, Horza escapes this first danger, and is soon sent by his Idiran masters on a new mission, to recover a newly-created Culture Mind, of apparently special abilities, which escaped from an Idiran attack and landed on a "dead world", off-limits to both Idirans and the Culture.
		Ostensibly Horza is an Idiran advocate (to us readers), though Banks` heart clearly isn`t in it, and the Culture comes off rather better (though somewhat ambiguously and unconvincingly so).
	www.sff.net /people/richard.horton/phlebas.htm (781 words)

	Encyclopedia :: encyclopedia : The Culture (Site not responding. Last check: )
		The first Culture novel, its central protagonist is working for the religious Idiran Empire against the Culture.
		Now, in the light of a star that was destroyed 800 years previously during the Idiran War, plans for revenge are being hatched.
		The Doctor Who Virgin New Adventure The Also People by Ben Aaronovitch is set in a Dyson sphere occupied by the People, who are an obvious homage to the Culture.
	www.hallencyclopedia.com /The_Culture (2577 words)

	CONSIDER PHLEBAS Iain M
		Idirans are enormous bio-armored aliens that walk on three thick legs.
		They are under a "jihad to calm, integrate and instruct other species and bring them under the direct eye of their God." In other words, they are at war with the humans.
		A Mind has escaped a battle with Idirans and is hiding there, a most clever Mind with a great secret.
	www.yetanotherbookreview.com /consider_phlebas.htm (497 words)

	Review of Iain M. Banks' Consider Phlebas
		The main character, Horza, is a Changer, who takes the side of the Idirans in their colossal war against the Culture.
		As it states in one of the appendices, the Culture is very different than the religiously dictated expansionism and conformity of the Idiran civilization.
		Beneath the layers of irony of Horza's mistaken allegiance to the Idirans, we get some pretty clear statements: "Horza recalled that the Culture's attitude to somebody who believed in an omnipotent God was to pity them...
	www.challengingdestiny.com /reviews/phlebas.htm (882 words)

	Look to Windward (Iain M. Banks) (Site not responding. Last check: )
		Eight hundred years ago, during the war between the Culture and the Idiran's the current Hub of Masaq' Orbital was part of a force that destroyed two stars (The Twin Novae Battle) and ended a war.
		The Chelgrians have just signed an armistice that ended their Caste War (which was instigated by the Culture) in which over 5 billion souls perished.
		Eight hundred years after the most horrific battle of the Idiran war, light from its catastrophic, world-destroying detonations is about to reach the Masaq' Orbital, home to the far-flung Culture's most adventurous and decadent souls.
	www.shadowdark.org /webstore/viewproduct.php?asin=0743421922 (521 words)

	Locus Online: Book Selection: October 2000: Iain M. Banks
		Towards the end of the war between the Culture and the Idiran, two suns were destroyed, killing billions.
		Ziller, who has been commissioned to write a symphony to be performed when the last light of the second sun fades from view, lives in exile after a disastrous civil war on Chelgria failed to overthrow the vicious caste system he despises.
		Hub, the artificial intelligence that manages Masaq’, is a Culture Mind that fought in the Idiran War and is haunted both by the death of its identical twin and by the deaths it was responsible for, each of which it recalls perfectly.
	www.locusmag.com /2000/Reviews/BookSelections2000_10a.html (511 words)

	The Culture vs [Archive] - SpaceBattles.com (Site not responding. Last check: )
		The Culture as of the late Idiran War (fully militarized) vs the Foundation Federation (an era of your choosing), the Homomdans, the Idirans (both as of the late Idiran War), the 4th Empire, and a limited remaining faction of the Xeelee (no Photino Birds).
		As for the Idirans and the Homomdans, neither of them by the end of the Idiran war are really much of a match for the Culture.
		1330 AD: The Culture begins to make it clear to the Idirans and the galaxy at large that it intends to fight on despite three years of continual defeats: First major stand is made at the Glittercliff, and the neutral Orbital Vavatch is destroyed by the Culture to prevent it falling into Idiran hands.
	kier.3dfrontier.com /forums/archive/index.php/t-19711.html (3295 words)

	RPGnet: Review of Consider Phlebas
		Basic Plot: Bora Horza Gobuchal is a Changer, a shapeshifting sub-species of human, amidst a great galactic war between the militant (and monstrous) Idirans and the hedonistic (and more human) Culture.
		Horza works as a spy and assassin for the Idirans, nourishing a deep--and perhaps unwarranted--hatred for the Culture.
		When a Culture 'Mind' (a highly developed computer consciousness that runs a ship) pulls off an unheard of maneuver in jettisoning itself from an explosion (and thus hinting at technological possibilities that could sway the outcome of the war), Horza is commanded by his Idiran leader, Xoralundra, to recover the Mind for the Idirans.
	www.rpg.net /reviews/archive/9/9782.phtml (529 words)

	Special Circumstances: Look to Windward by Iain M. Banks
		The plot here concerns the aftermath of the Culture's conflict with the Idirans that was the plot in "Consider Phlebas".
		In this novel, rather than the original swashbuckling action there is a somber reflection of the themes of war and revenge.
		Ziller is busy composing a symphony for the Orbital Mind Masaq' to commemorate the destruction of two suns in the Idiran war at the hands of the warship it used to be before it retired to become an Orbital.
	www.cs.sfu.ca /~anoop/weblog/archives/000187.html (639 words)

	Look to Windward - PowerBookSearch!
		A century ago Chel fought a dreadful civil war over its caste system; Ziller was so disgusted he left and never returned, but the Culture admits it fomented the war by political anticaste manipulations.
		Also in the recent past was the Culture's war against the expansionist Idirans, won handily by the Culture.
		As a fighting spaceship, the Hub fought in that war and, to its everlasting anguish, was responsible for many deaths.
	www.powerbooksearch.com /booksearch0743421922.html (1253 words)

	Remnants of an Empire [FT] [Archive] - jolt.co.uk public forums
		The 'dumb' sensor package, in its essence a gunplatform stripped of guns and equipped with a hyperspacial drive and a fair amount of sensors, jumped, for a moment oscillating between the hyperspacial volumes, then returning into the 'normal' volume of space that lies in between the hyperspacial layers.
		Medjel yelped and ran, their many limbs almost in chaos, while Idiran warriors cursed and concentrated on the task at had, their obscenely powerful but nonetheless subsentient computers calculating, analysing, coordinating.
		Of course, just as the sensors of the Idiran fleet watched their present 'Neighbors', analysing them and their capacities, offensive ones, defensive ones, so the Idirans were watched.
	forums.jolt.co.uk /archive/index.php/t-456123.html (2644 words)

	Culture Sentients (Site not responding. Last check: )
		Has a single broad midlimb and arms like a human (except for the fur) ending in broad, six-digit hands more like paws.
		Tripedal species, allied with the Idirans during thethe Idiran-Culture war 1323 - 1375 AD.
		Sheltered the Idirans after the earlier Skankatrian-Idiran war 1345-991 BC.
	www.zaramis.nu /anders/culture/hum.html (348 words)

	Christopher Palmer- Galactic Empires and the Contemporary Extravaganza: Dan Simmons and Iain M. Banks
		This destruction is a minor episode in the war with the Idirans that provides the context for the novel, and its main purpose is to demonstrate to the Idirans, who consider themselves very tough, that the Culture is willing to sacrifice its own biggest and most costly creations.
		Horza is actually flying the Clear Air Turbulence within the huge, miles-long holds and corridors of the Ends of Invention, blasting with plasma from its propulsion systems at the rear and with laser cannons at the front to clear his way.
		The fate of Horza’s affair with Yalson, a fellow member of the story’s band of adventurers, is witness to this, even though it is eventually disclosed that she has become pregnant, an unusual event in adventure novels (§11:362).
	www.depauw.edu /sfs/backissues/77/palmer77.htm (8580 words)

	Amazon.co.uk: Consider Phlebas: Books (Site not responding. Last check: )
		The Idirans fought for their Faith; the Culture for its moral right to exist.
		Both the Culture and the Idirans sought it.
		It was the fate of Horza, the Changer, and his motley crew of unpredictable mercenaries, human and machine, actually to find it, and with it their own destruction.
	www.amazon.co.uk /exec/obidos/ASIN/1857231384 (980 words)

	Photos : Conscious Bob's Portfolio : Sketches of Idiran Details from Consider Phlebas Iain M Banks
		Conscious Bob's Portfolio » Sketches of Idiran Details from Consider Phlebas Iain M Banks
		Sketches of Idiran Details from Consider Phlebas Iain M Banks
		I was trying to nail the physical characteristics of an Idiran.
	community.imaginefx.com /fxpose/conscious_bobs_portfolio/picture18506.aspx (100 words)

	Iain Banks FAQ - an unofficial FAQ for the author Iain Banks
		Q. If the Culture is Iain Banks' image of utopia, was the Idiran empire his image of dystopia?
		The first published novel featuring the Culture was 'Consider Phlebas' in 1987.
		The Idiran empire was to be the antithesis of the Culture; deeply religious, racist (well, speciesist), centralist, warlike and basically fascisistic".
	www.iainbanksfaq.haddonstuff.co.uk (3313 words)

	Scene 18
		1000 type 9 conquest unit (idiran battle ship with up grades)
		8000 type 4 conquest units (Idiran battle cruisers with TW up grades)
		5000 type 9 conquest unit (idiran battle ship with up grades)
	www.angelfire.com /rpg2/tanithryudo/YvW_Story/Scene18.html (12160 words)

	Look to Windward - Iain M. Banks - Review - The Final Solution (Site not responding. Last check: )
		A drone, secretly a member of Contact, makes the connection and he (/it) also works with the Hub (The Mind or computer running the Orbital) whose representative Avatar is always close.
		The Idiran War was the last major conflict involving the Culture, almost lost early on because of the amount of time it took the Culture to mobilise.
		The Limiting Factor went on a series of raids deeps within Idiran space to try and slow their advance whilst the Culture mobilised.
	www.dooyoo.co.uk /printed-books/look-to-windward-iain-m-banks/287646 (1164 words)

	:: sylvan korvus :: books: (science) fiction
		Phlebas is a tense action-thriller that follows the anti-hero Changer, Bora Horza Gobuchul, acting as a mercenary in the Idiran war against the Culture.
		While Horza seeks this AI Mind for his Idiran employers, a Culture agent, Perosteck Balveda, seeks to recover the mind herself to prevent it from falling into enemy hands.
		While not necessarily likeable, Horza does make for a very human protagonist in the story, and his relationships with his nemesis Balveda, and one of the crewmembers of the Free Company he has joined give his character depth and show that there's more to this story than action; which there's certainly a lot of.
	www.korvus.com /books/sf.html (5632 words)

	culture data repository \| Is Horza a git?
		-brendan- the Idirans saw the war, long before it was even declared, as a "continuation of the permanent hostilities demanded by theological and disciplinary colonisation"
		I never supported the Idirans but was never comfortable with the Culture philosophy as well [at least in this instance].
		-brendan- The Idirans underestimated the resolve of the Culture.
	www.culturelist.org /cdr/article.cfm?id=267 (2307 words)

	Review: Ambiguous Reparations: Iain M. Banks' Look to Windward, reviewed by John Aegard
		The Culture does not exist merely so that it can be violently transformed in the course of a novel.
		Even Consider Phlebas' cataclysmic Idiran War was never posed as a Culture-changing event.
		The Minds of that novel had calculated the exact circumstances of their victory well in advance, and, despite billions of tragedies, the Culture as a whole sailed on unaffected.
	www.strangehorizons.com /20001218/look_to_windward.shtml (999 words)

	RPGnet Forums - Once and for All - which Culture novel to start a newbie on?
		Consider Phlebas: Ok, so now you know what The Culture is from the inside - now see it from the outside looking in.
		Look to Windward: Bookends the Culture timeline (referencing the Idiran War), and again shows very clearly what life for most of the trillions of Culture citizens is like.
		Use of Weapons and Excession are both really great books, but they're also not user-friendly to anyone starting out.
	forum.rpg.net /printthread.php?t=220817 (480 words)

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