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  Érudit | RON n31 2003 : Urquhart : Metaphor, Transfer, and Translation in Plato’s   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-14)
The Ion’s iron rings suggest the interminable progression of metaphor by which meaning is constructed and kept current, and this view of language, in which meaning is constructed by the poet rather than reflected or distorted, points to a reprieve for poetry from Socrates’s banishment of it in Republic X.
Ion recognizes that his performance as a rhapsode is shaped by the act of performing, understands that he becomes a rhapsode only in the interactive act of interpreting Homer for his audience.
Plato’s position as the author of Ion, a dramatic dialogue, further underscores that the text points to the creation of meaning through interpretation and transfer and suggests that Plato, himself, is a poet—or perhaps a poetic rhapsode or a rhapsodic poet, either of which seems to be very similar to Shelley’s definition of poet.
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 The Internet Classics Archive | Ion by Plato
I often envy the profession of a rhapsode, Ion; for you have always to wear fine clothes, and to look as beautiful as you can is a part of your art.
O that we were wise, Ion, and that you could truly call us so; but you rhapsodes and actors, and the poets whose verses you sing, are wise; whereas I am a common man, who only speak the truth.
Why, yes, Ion, because you may possibly have a knowledge of the art of the general as well as of the rhapsode; and you may also have a knowledge of horsemanship as well as of the lyre: and then you would know when horses were well or ill managed.
classics.mit.edu /Plato/ion.html   (3483 words)

  
 Plato on Rhetoric and Poetry (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
Plato has in his sights all of “poetry,” contending that its influence is pervasive and often harmful, and that its premises about nature and the divine are mistaken.
Ion is a prize-winning professional reciter of poetry — a “rhapsode” — and of Homer in particular.
Ion chooses the latter on grounds that it is “lovelier.” It is an invitation to hybris, of course.
plato.stanford.edu /entries/plato-rhetoric   (12979 words)

  
 Plato-Ion
Ion the rhapsode has just come to Athens; he has been exhibiting in Epidaurus at the festival of Asclepius, and is intending to exhibit at the festival of the Panathenaea.
Ion is delighted at the notion of being inspired, and acknowledges that he is beside himself when he is performing;-his eyes rain tears and his hair stands on end.
ION: Why, Socrates, the reason is, that my countrymen, the Ephesians, are the servants and soldiers of Athens, and do not need a general; and you and Sparta are not likely to have me, for you think that you have enough generals of your own.
humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk /~hkshp/wclassic/plato-ion.htm   (4867 words)

  
 Plato's
Ion the rhapsode has just come to Athens; he has been exhibiting in Epidaurus at the festival of Asclepius, and is intending to exhibit at the festival of the Panathenaea.
Ion is delighted at the notion of being inspired, and acknowledges that he is beside himself when he is performing;--his eyes rain tears and his hair stands on end.
ION: Why, Socrates, the reason is, that my countrymen, the Ephesians, are the servants and soldiers of Athens, and do not need a general; and you and Sparta are not likely to have me, for you think that you have enough generals of your own.
www.ancienttexts.org /library/greek/plato/ion.html   (4674 words)

  
 Plato’s Attack on Drama
Dismissing popular works because they create an emotional effect upon their readers is not a new idea; part of the reason Plato banished poets from his ideal society was their ability to move the public, especially to a false belief.
Ion: [...]  For I must frankly confess that at the tale of pity my eyes are filled with tears, and when I speak of horrors, my hair stands on end and my heart throbs.
Ion: No indeed, Socrates, I must say that, strictly speaking, he is not in his right mind.
www.tccc.cc.nc.us /swood/DRA/Plato.htm   (1297 words)

  
 Free Essay Analysis of Ion by Plato   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-14)
Ion is a rhapsode, a professional narrator of Homer, who obtained the first prize in the festival of Asclepius.
Ion’s lack of understanding of literature becomes crucial when one considers the role of such Greek rhapsodes as interpreters of Homer, and in that capacity, as essentially rewriters of the text.
Ion says that an artist is like a general because when an artist produces a work, he has to have various aspects.
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 Plato
Further, Plato’s fears that poets (for classical theorists, ‘poets’ included dramatists and, by extension, all creative writers) were bad influences on the public inaugurate discussion of art’s ethical dimension and the dynamics between artist and audience.
Whereas Plato’s thinking was grounded in the ideal world of Being, his pupil Aristotle’s thinking was grounded in the physical world of Becoming—in the processes of nature, in the definitions of kinds, parts, and functions.
Plato and Aristotle were products of their time (a time of exterior conflict and of interior dissent) and therefore limited to thinking within the parameters of the possible available at that time.
social.chass.ncsu.edu /wyrick/debclass/Plato.htm   (5146 words)

  
 Bryn Mawr Classical Review 97.4.2
M. concludes that "like Ion himself we are left in a state of aporia, unable to decide how to read S[ocrates]' apparent eulogy of the poets." But if the eulogy is insincere (as it must be if "apparent"), then it is not a genuine eulogy at all, and so there should be no aporia.
Ion by the end, we are told, seems "to have learnt nothing from Socrates' cross-questioning" (M. on 541b1-2).
But when at 541a5-7 Ion agrees that it is not the case that all good generals are good rhapsodes, he may, for all we know from this text, think that no good generals could be members of his profession.
ccat.sas.upenn.edu /bmcr/1997/97.04.02.html   (5367 words)

  
 Plato's "Ion"
In this dialogue, Plato explores, through Socrates' questioning of Ion the rhapsody, the origin of and impetus of poetry, the poet's relationship to the things he discusses, and the relationship of the critic to the poet and the work.
Socrates (Plato) determines that the only explanation is not that the poet operates by art but rather by inspiration from God.
Socrates (Plato) likens this to a series of rings suspended from chains with God at the top followed by the muse, the poet, the rhapsode and the audience.
core.ecu.edu /engl/kaind/crit/iontext.html   (855 words)

  
 The Dialogue, Ion
SOCRATES: Then, my dear fellow, if we say Ion is good at Homer and good at the other poets alike, we shan't be wrong, since you admit yourself that the same person is a sufficient judge of all that speak about the same things, and the poets pretty well all poetise the same things.
ION: What is proper for a man to say-so at least I take it, or what for a woman, what for a slave or what for a free man, what for a subject or what for a ruler.
ION: The reason is, my dear Socrates, that my own city of Ephesus is under your state's rule and generalship, and needs no general of its own; and your state and Lacedaimon would not choose me as general, for you think you are enough by yourselves.
www.ionpartnersllc.com /dialogue.htm   (3798 words)

  
 Plato, Ion ToC: The Online Library of Liberty   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-14)
Plato used his teaching Academy to spread his ideas on moral philosophy, epistemology, and political theory which came to exert a profound influence on western philosophy for centuries afterwards.
Ion is delighted at the notion of being inspired, and acknowledges that he is beside himself when he is performing;—his eyes rain tears and his hair stands on end.
Ion is made to admit that he, being the best of rhapsodes, is also the best of generals.
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 Electronic Antiquities Volume I, Number 3   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-14)
In a fashion appropriate to Plato's early dialogues, this essay then ends with a question mark (Section III); my musings, in the end, may not elaborate the instability of language itself (as in more committed deconstruction), but rather the instability of the rhapsode Ion's own use of language.
Because Ion cannot give an account of himself, cannot evaluate his words, and does not comprehend poetry as a whole, he must then be possessed or inspired.
The suspicion remains that Plato is looking over our shoulder.(3) This use of the deconstructive approach may not have unraveled the exclusive distinction between reason and inspiration, but rather taken the argument one step further.
scholar.lib.vt.edu /ejournals/ElAnt/V1N4/becker.html   (2566 words)

  
 bloch
Furthermore, as Micaela Janan (1994: 7) notes, "Plato, Freud, and Lacan all explicitly theorize a connection between desire and creative art." In this paper, I tease out the implications of Janan's observation in respect to the Ion, and suggest that it in fact adumbrates a psychoanalytic theory of poetry.
In the Ion, Socrates argues that great poetry is produced, performed, listened to, and even interpreted in a state of inspiration or possession.
Plato's Socrates suggests that the inspired poet "cannot compose until he is possessed and out of his mind," and he compares the poet with Corybantic dancers (534; trans.
www.apaclassics.org /AnnualMeeting/04mtg/abstracts/konstan.html   (426 words)

  
 "The Ion" (Plato)
Plato of "theory of forms," "theory of knowledge," "nature of forms," and "art." Where in the Ion does Plato express antagonism toward art?
Part of Plato's distrust of art comes from his view that a physical object (such as a flower) is one step removed from the form or universal (such "Flower-ness").
Ion is a rhapsode, or someone who presents the work of such poets as Homer.
www.csulb.edu /~jvancamp/361r10.html   (4066 words)

  
 Ion
Plato is notorious for irony, and it is common to disregard such passages as mere mythical ornamentation surrounding Plato’s core dialectical philosophical concerns.
My own view is that Plato inserts such artistic passages as this one in the Ion in order to communicate insights for which he cannot offer dialectical grounding.
Plato’s purpose is to stimulate our adventure of discovery, an adventure that, while centered on the quest to know the forms, nonetheless engages all dimensions of the human soul.
www.personal.kent.edu /~jwattles/ion.htm   (2489 words)

  
 Ion by Plato Socrates Ridicules Inspired Musicians
Plato describes the insane or mad prophesying in Corinth.
Why, yes, Ion, because you may possibly have a knowledge of the art of the general as well as of the rhapsode; and you may also have a knowledge of horsemanship as well as of the
But then, Ion, what in the name of goodness can be the reason why you, who are the best of generals as well as the best of rhapsodes in all Hellas,
www.piney.com /MuIon.html   (4003 words)

  
 Harvard University Press: Statesman. Philebus. Ion by Plato
Plato, the great philosopher of Athens, was born in 427 BC.
Much else recorded of his life is uncertain; that he left Athens for a time after Socrates' execution is probable; that later he went to Cyrene, Egypt, and Sicily is possible; that he was wealthy is likely; that he was critical of 'advanced' democracy is obvious.
Unfinished also is Plato's last work of the twelve books of Laws (Socrates is absent from it), a critical discussion of principles of law which Plato thought the Greeks might accept.
www.hup.harvard.edu /catalog/L164.html   (375 words)

  
 Journal of the International Plato Society
Issue Five of the Plato journal of the International Plato Society opens with a contribution by Béatrice Bakhouche on Calcidius, and one by David Konstan on the Ion.
Then follow five contributions that were presented at a worskshop on Plato’s Statesman at the University of Notre Dame in September of 2004 (not all the papers were submitted for publication).
Dal numero 3 PLATO sarà composta principalmente di articoli non commisionati dalla rivista.
www.nd.edu /~plato/plato5issue/contents5.htm   (969 words)

  
 Ion Notes
Plato held that there is another world, the world of Ideas or Forms, where the form of "humanity" and "the good" and everything else that has a form, exists fully and constantly.
Plato held that the soul has three parts, a part that desires, a part that is responsible for anger and enforcement, and a rational part.
Socrates, as opposed to Plato, would not be concerned with whether those events were real or true or anything else so much as their status vis-a-vis virtue.
www.uvm.edu /~jbailly/courses/Socrates/Notes/ion.html   (2489 words)

  
 Plato Ion   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-14)
Plato was Socrates' student and an accomplished philosopher in his own right.
For now, let us assume, with the philosophers, that Plato is telling us the truth, in some sense, about what Socrates asked Ion, the rhapsode.
In all the dialogues, Socrates interrogates his student/subjects in a pattern of linked questions, the "elenchus," that is designed to gradually trap them in a contradiction which will expose some basic concept to new understanding.
faculty.goucher.edu /eng215/plato_ion.htm   (381 words)

  
 Ion (Plato) E-book by Plato
Plato (~428-~348 BC) - One of the greatest and most influential Greek philosophers, he was a disciple of Socrates and the teacher of Aristotle.
Plato founded a school of philosophy known as the Academy.
Ion (380 BC) - A conversation between Socrates and Ion, a rhapsode (reciter).
www.19.5degs.com /ebook/ion-plato/773   (135 words)

  
 PLATO - ION - 360 BC - FULL TEXT - IN ONE COMPLETE WEBPAGE PART - Translated by Benjamin Jowett (1817-1893) - Athenaeum ...
PLATO - ION - 360 BC - FULL TEXT - IN ONE COMPLETE WEBPAGE PART - Translated by Benjamin Jowett (1817-1893) - Athenaeum Library of Philosophy
Ion: No, Socrates; but from Epidaurus, where I attended the festival of Asclepius.
Nevertheless I am conscious in my own self, and the world agrees with me in thinking that I do speak better and have more to say about Homer than any other man. But I do not speak equally well about others- tell me the reason of this.
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 Plato - The Ion (Plato) - Free Books 5000.com
Plato (~428-~348 BC) - One of the greatest and most influential Greek philosophers, he was a disciple of Socrates and the teacher of Aristotle.
Plato founded a school of philosophy known as the Academy.
Ion (380 BC) - A conversation between Socrates and Ion, a rhapsode (reciter).
www.freebooks5000.com /books/summary-PLAT_IO.htm   (832 words)

  
 Ion Partners, LLC   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-14)
Ion was a contemporary of Socrates and Plato in ancient Greece.
Socrates engages him in a dialogue and concludes that his success is due to Divine inspiration and not art or science.
Click here for a link to the dialogue, Ion, by Plato.
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 Plato's Ion & Meno
The Philosophy Documentation Center is pleased to offer dramatized, unabridged versions of philosophical dialogues on audio CD from Agora Publications.
In Plato's Ion & Meno, Socrates questions Ion, an actor who just won a major prize, about his ability to interpret the epic poetry of Homer.
As the dialogue proceeds, the nature of human creativity emerges as a mysterious process and an unsolved puzzle.
www.pdcnet.org /agorapim.html   (281 words)

  
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For consider what a very commonplace and trivial thing is this which I have said -- a thing which any man might say: that when a man has acquired a knowledge of a whole art, the enquiry into good and bad is one and the same.
Nevertheless I am conscious in my own self, and the world agrees with me in thinking that I do speak better and have more to say about Homer than any other man. But I do not speak equally well about others -- tell me the reason of this.
But suppose I were to ask you: By the help of which art, Ion, do you know whether horses are well managed, by your skill as a horseman or as a performer on the lyre -- what would you answer?
www.ilt.columbia.edu /publications/Projects/digitexts/plato/ion/ion.html   (3471 words)

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