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Topic: Ivernic


  
  Primitive Irish language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Before Gaelic dialects evolved in Ireland, some allege that the inhabitants spoke Ivernic, particularly in Munster.
Cormac mac Cuilennáin, king and bishop of Cashel in Munster in Ireland, born 836, died 908, wrote a large Glossary which said that the "Iron-speech" was "dense and difficult" and had recently died out and that two words of it were remembered: ond = "stone" and fern = "anything good".
It is difficult to argue from two words, but it could be that Ivernic was language which was spoken in Ireland before any Indo-European languages arrived.
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Ivernic   (743 words)

  
 YourArt.com >> Encyclopedia >> Iverni   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-31)
A descendant group, the Corcu Loígde, gave their name to the modern county and city of Cork.
Other proposed Ivernic groups include the Corcu Duibhne of County Kerry, the Déisi of Waterford, the Osraige of the Kingdom of Osraige/Ossory and the Dál nAraidi of Antrim.
The Builg, identified with the historical Belgae and mythological Fir Bolg, may have been identical with, or a sub-group of, the Iverni.
www.yourart.com /research/encyclopedia.cgi?subject=/Iverni   (159 words)

  
 Croman's Grove   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-31)
Such Ivernic words as were borrowed soon after the Goidelic invasion would be indistinguishable in form from purely Goidelic words ; compare such tribal or geographical names as Cruthin (< *Pritenî), Lagin (< *Laginî or the like), Ulaid (< *Ulutî), Albu (< *Albiû).
Only when a word was adopted into Irish at a later period, and when at the same time there happens to be something in its form which shows that previous to being borrowed it had undergone a particularly Brittonic development, or when it includes certain consonants or consonant-groups (e.g.
Especially notable among these Ivernic loanwords are the national name Goídil, the name of the Irish language Goídelg, and a number of pagan deity names including Nuadu (or Luadu), Ded, Cathaer Már, Buchet, in Tat Már, Allduí.
groups.msn.com /CromansGrove/appendix2addenda.msnw   (1434 words)

  
 Primitive Irish Language info here at en.88of100c.info   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-31)
Advocates of that theorem conceive that Ivernic elementary diverged from Gaulish circumference 500 BC survived a setup Goidelic-speaking invasion of Ireland (sometime medially 500 100 BC).
It was said to be motionless spoken by a minority in Munster at the relay of Bede in about AD However its speakers were in future absorbed into the Goidelic-speaking population, by the relay the Vikings had landed Limerick in about 850, the Ivernic Goidelic languages had merged into Irish.
It is onerous to feud from two words, but it could be that Ivernic was tongue which was spoken in Ireland before a bit Indo-European languages arrived.[citation needed]
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 Primitive Irish language   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-31)
But when the druids were replaced as the learned class by Christian monks, formal Primitive Irish was replaced as the language of learning by Latin.[citation needed] The vernacular forms, freed from the conservative influence of the formal register, changed rapidly, until a new written standard, Old Irish, established itself.[citation needed]
Advocates of this hypothesis believe that Ivernic first diverged from Gaulish around 500 BC[citation needed] and survived a proposed Goidelic-speaking invasion of Ireland (sometime between 500 and 100 BC).
It was said[citation needed] to be still spoken by a minority in Munster at the time of Bede in about AD However its speakers were eventually absorbed into the Goidelic-speaking population, and by the time the Vikings had established Limerick in about 850, the Ivernic and Goidelic languages had merged into Irish.
green-day.rightlikealso.info /Primitive_Irish_language   (1302 words)

  
 Random Works of the Web » Blog Archive » Primitive Irish language   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-31)
Advocates of this hypothesis believe that Ivernic first diverged from Gaulish around 500 BC and survived a proposed Goidelic-speaking invasion of Ireland (sometime between 500 and 100 BC).
It was said to be still spoken by a minority in Munster at the time of Bede in about AD 700.
However its speakers were eventually absorbed into the Goidelic-speaking population, and by the time the Vikings had established Limerick in about 850, the Ivernic language had evolved into Irish.
random.dragonslife.org /primitive-irish-language/995   (701 words)

  
 Names [Archive] - The Guild
Ivernic was still spoken by a minority in Munster (where the Irish faction starts) until the tail end of the 800s AD, and Ivernic names still existed.
Ivernic is written down in the post-Christian period, and was the day-to-day language of several parts of western Munster, and occassionally a few kings.
However, by that point, no Ivernic speakers still existed (or, at least, no populations spoke it; it is possible that the rare scholar might have taken an interest in the language).
forums.totalwar.org /vb/archive/index.php/t-49132.html   (11373 words)

  
 Croman's Grove
Brittonic was spoken in Britain and Ireland, and had several divisions which it may be best to see as dialects.
Among these were Pretanic ("Pictish"), Ivernic (this is a claim by T.F. O'Rahilly, which is controversial, but which I accept), Cumbric, and the language which eventually became Old Welsh and Old Cornish.
All of these languages died out, or evolved and were replaced (in Britain) by Early Welsh and Early Cornish (Cumbric and Pretanic were replaced by Archaic Irish and Pretanic was also later replaced by a dialect of Old English that became Broad Scots; in Ireland the Brittonic languages/dialects were replaced by Primitive Irish).
groups.msn.com /CromansGrove/celtlanghist.msnw   (1009 words)

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