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  Jerald and Sandra Tanner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jerald and Sandra Tanner are long-time Utah residents and prominent critics of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS Church).
Sandra is a great-great-granddaughter of Brigham Young, the second president of the Mormon Church.
The Tanners concur with Hofmann, however, in contending that the LDS church's apparent inability to discern the forged documents is evidence against church leadership being divinely inspired.
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Jerald_and_Sandra_Tanner   (1204 words)

  
 D. Michael Quinn responds to Jerald and Sandra Tanner
The Tanners are aware that the History of the Church was compiled from a variety of sources (many of which were only loaned to Church historians, to be returned once they had extracted pertinent information), and that the exact source for the account of Joseph Smith's prophecy of August 6, 1842 is not clear.
The Tanners claim that Mormon temple ordinances are the Item Y that Joseph Smith copied from the Item X of Masonry: "We feel that there is only one logical explanation for the many parallels between the temple ceremony and Masonry, and that is that Joseph Smith borrowed from the Masons" (page 490).
The Tanners introduce the third editorial practice with a statement on the last page of their Preface: "Capitalization and underlining are used for emphasis throughout this book." As is true of ellipses, the occasional use of underlining or italics for emphasis is fully acceptable and even desirable.
www.lds-mormon.com /mo2.shtml   (5304 words)

  
 Jerald and Sandra Tanner - Career anti-Mormon critics   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
The Tanner's would like to have you believe that they are honest seekers after truth and they are simply providing a service by publishing copies of documents which are generally not available.
The Tanners have repeatedly assumed a holier-than-thou stance, refusing to be fair in applying the same debate standard of absolute rectitude which they demand of Mormonism to their own actions, writing, and beliefs.
The Tanners seem to be playing a skillful shell game in which the premises for judgment are conveniently shifted so that the conclusion is always the same--negative.
www.lightplanet.com /response/tanners.htm   (273 words)

  
 Jerald and Sandra Tanner & FARMS - SHIELDS
The Tanners were also wrong in stating that “it appears that FARMS has vast resources that will be used to criticize our work and the work of other critics of the church” and to complain that “we, of course, do not have millions of dollars to fight off such an attack” (p.
So it appears that the Tanners, in their strike at FARMS, latched on to Matt Roper’s mention of Lawrence Foster in a review of the Tanners’ work in a FARMS publication, then cited Foster’s opinion that Joseph Smith was mentally ill, which led to five pages dealing with this subject and peripheral issues.
Actually, the Tanners would have difficulty accepting the idea that Joseph Smith was mentally ill. It conflicts with their own idea of a brilliant man who was able to pull together the Book of Mormon from bits and pieces of the Bible (including the Apocrypha) and other sources.
www.shields-research.org /Reviews/Tanners_and_FARMS_a_review.htm   (3595 words)

  
 Utah Lighthouse Ministry: About Us
Jerald and Sandra Tanner were raised in the LDS faith, both with a strong Mormon family history.
Jerald is the great-great-grandson of John Tanner, well known for his sizeable financial contributions to Joseph Smith and the LDS church in 1835 when the church was deeply in debt.
Sandra Tanner is a great-great-granddaughter of Brigham Young, the second president of the Mormon Church.
www.utlm.org /navaboutus.htm   (248 words)

  
 Jerald and Sandra Tanner’s Distorted View of Mormonism
It is this distinction that the Tanners gloss over in their analysis (pages 150-52) of what they call "First History" published by Oliver Cowdery in 1834, in which he failed to include the "First Vision" even though it had been recorded as early as 1832.
The Tanners have done a commendable job of showing the passages from the Book of Mormon that are virtual quotations or paraphrases of the Bible (pages 74-79), and had they wanted to they could have quoted from studies showing similar patternism in the revelations of the Doctrine and Covenants.
The Tanners also feel that they have repudiated the ancient claims of the Book of Mormon through their painstaking survey of secular literature that was available to Joseph Smith, passages of which are very similar to passages in the Book of Mormon.
www.fairlds.org /apol/misc/misc02.html   (14180 words)

  
 Charisma Magazine Online
Sandra Tanner said that although both sides ultimately agreed to drop the lawsuit, it gave ULM national exposure that resulted in hundreds more people contacting the ministry through its Web site.
Jerald is the great-great-grandson of John Tanner, well-known for his sizeable financial contributions to LDS founder Joseph Smith and the Mormon church in 1835 when it was deeply in debt.
Sandra Tanner is a great-great-granddaughter of Mormon leader Brigham Young.
www.charismamag.com /a.php?ArticleID=7356   (757 words)

  
 DARRICK ANSWERS THE TANNERS (and other critics)
TANNERS: Constance Cumbey claims that I told her that it was HER book that brought me out of the New Age movement, and that in a conference call with Mark Trosclair I claimed that I denied that I had "ever been a Mormon".
TANNERS: The Tanners write that I appeared on Al Kresta's radio show and denied being a Mormon, and confessed to using different names and that I called Constance Cumbey a "nut" and spoke disrespectfully of her.
TANNERS: The Tanners say that I wrote in The Gainsayers that I accepted the Lord at age 15, but what I wrote in New Age Messiah Identified that I became a Christian in 1984, and this is a contradiction and that in 1984 I was serving a mission in California.
www.angelfire.com /mo/baha/trojan.html   (4618 words)

  
 Jerald and Sandra Tanner's "A Look at Christianity" review
I was a bit disappointed with that statement--not because I really wanted to hear what the Tanners thought of the Creation/Evolution debate (I've read up on what Christians think of it enough to already know what they were going to say), but because it is always entertaining to hear the arguments for Creationism.
The Tanners quote Thomas Paine and Bertrand Russell in such a way as to make you think that Paine was almost a God-fearing Christian and that Russell was a miserable man who hated being an atheist as it brought severe unhappiness to his life.
One example of the horrible logic that the Tanners seem to employ in many of their works is found on p.
www.2think.org /hii/tanner.shtml   (1287 words)

  
 News about religious cults, sects, and alternative religions - December 2, 2000 (Vol. 4, Issue 291) - 1/2   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
Utah Lighthouse Ministry and Jerald and Sandra Tanner entered into a settlement agreement subject to Court approval with Intellectual Reserve, Inc., the copyright owner for LDS Church publications as to a federal lawsuit alleging a copyright violation filed in October, 1999.
Under the tentative settlement, ex-Mormons Jerald and Sandra Tanner, who have spent nearly four decades in the critical study of Mormonism through their Salt Lake-based Utah Lighthouse Ministry, agreed to destroy copies of the handbook.
The Tanners asked to be removed from membership rolls in the 1960s and were excommunicated for apostasy, she said.
www.apologeticsindex.org /news/an201202.html?FACTNet   (6576 words)

  
 James' Testimony   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
Jerald and Sandra Tanner, she said that it was.
One of the big bosses came up and asked me what I was reading one day, when he noticed that the authors were Jerald and Sandra Tanner, he got a stern look on his face and walked away.
Yet, Sandra Tanner was the most influential to me during this period.
www.concernedchristians.org /testimonials_james.php   (1563 words)

  
 Cult News.com: Leading Mormon historians and researchers contemplate retirement
Sandra and Jerald Tanner of Salt Lake City have researched the Mormon Church (LDS) and its history for three decades.
Along the way the Tanners became part of Mormon history themselves, as pivotal players in numerous critical and important archival revelations, not always appreciated by their former church.
The Tanners raised three children in Utah and throughout their family life resided a short walk from the historic Mormon Temple erected under the direction of Sandra's revered ancestor.
www.cultnews.com /archives/000534.html   (679 words)

  
 Challanging the Tanners   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
The contention has arisen from the Tanners in their book "Mormonism Shadow or Reality?" 5th ed., 1987: 300-301 that R.C.Webb, a defender of the Mormon Prophet Joseph Smith was completely bogus and useless as a source of information on the Egyptological explanations of Joseph Smith on the facsimiles in the Book of Abraham.
The Tanners, as I have said again and again, would do very well to get their noses into what the ancient Egyptians really thought, especially about the ideas of hidden meanings in the ancient Egyptians' words and phrases, and the multiple forms and functions that Egyptian deities could take.
The Tanners are guilty of misrepresenting the actual status of the fragments of papyri in the possession of the Chruch of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
www.bibleman.net /Challenging_the_Tanners.htm   (6504 words)

  
 The Tanners and William Heth Whitsitt
The Tanners' intentional rejection of any possible pre-baptismal role for Rigdon in the unfolding of Mormon origins (prior to October 1830) is a matter seemingly separate from their equally studied inattention to any substantial Spalding authorship claims.
The Tanners apparently expect their readers to generally ignore the problematic Rigdon, along with his personal brand of radicalized, pre-millennial Campbellite doctrines and practices (mostly unique doctrines and practices, I might add), many of which are also neatly spread throughout a certain book first published in Palmyra in 1830.
Tanner (or their successors) will demonstrate to the satisfaction of all, that my remarks are in error and that the Rev. Dr.
sidneyrigdon.com /wht/WhitRev1.htm   (16957 words)

  
 Rebuttal to Gerald and Sandra Tanner
Tanner’s monumental work, Mormonism, Shadow, or Reality, is one of the more eloquent and thorough (as to scholarship) testimonials I have had the pleasure of reading concerning the divinity of Joseph Smith’s mission.
Tanner across from the table bountifully spread with the goodness of Protestantism, for which I was grateful of course, for they seemed to truly be in the service of the humble, where I explained to him the circumstances of my divine account and reasons for my understanding of Joseph Smith, relating to Mr.
I then increased in favor with my hearers, to the point of actually forming a society for the liberation of Zion among them, whereupon I was then cast out upon the sidewalk again, being ejected by this Christian organization for threatening their order as Jesus the Pharisees with the truth.
www.artbulla.com /zion/tanner.html   (997 words)

  
 SouthernUtah.com Community Forums - Mormon Church vs Jerald and Sandra Tanner
I"m interested in finding out what it was the Tanners had posted on their web site to stir the Mormon Church up so much as to sue them.
The Tanners and the Mormon Church have had an on going relationship for many many years, The LDS Church usually chooses to ignore whatever it is they have to say or write about.
She was raised LDS but succesfully had her name removed from the records of the church in 1975.
forums.southernutah.com /showthread.php?t=337   (945 words)

  
 FAIR Topical Guide: Tanner, Jerald and Sandra
Barry R. Bickmore, "The Tanners on the Hereafter: A Case Study in 'Studied Ignorance'," (Mesa, Arizona: FAIR, May 2004) An examination of one chapter of the Tanners' magnum opus, "Mormonism--Shadow or Reality," and finds that a grossly flawed methodology and approach has produced only a caricature of Latter-day Saint beliefs.
Charles Pyle and Cooper Johnson, "Did Earlier LDS Leaders Understand the First Vision?," (Mesa, Arizona: FAIR, December 2002) Examining charges, originating with the Tanners, that early LDS leaders didn't feel Joseph Smith was visited by the Father and Son in the First Vision.
Russell C. McGregor, "Wild Bill Rides Again: The Tanners on the Danites," (March 1999) Analysis of an article about the Danites and Blood Atonement by Jerald and Sandra Tanner.
www.fairlds.org /apol/ai188.html   (1386 words)

  
 Reason: Filling in the missing pieces of the Mormon History Puzzle.   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
Written by Jerald and Sandra Tanner and published by their Utah Lighthouse Ministry.
Although blasted by many church authorities and apologists, the Tanner's work has provided important insights and documentation for the work of many serious LDS and non-LDS historians alike.
Many of the books and material contained on our site are published by Jerald and Sandra Tanner.
www.xmission.com /~country/reason/reason.htm   (697 words)

  
 Mormon News for WE 21Nov99: Churchwide News   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
U.S. District Court Judge Tena Campbell continued her order restraining LDS Church critics Jerald and Sandra Tanner from posting the Church's Handbook of Instructions or including links on their website to third parties that have posted the material.
She also indicated that the LDS Church seems likely to win its case claiming that the Tanners have violated the copyright law.
Jerald and Sandra Tanner, targets of a copyright infringement lawsuit brought by the LDS Church, are asking U.S. District Judge Tena Campbell to dismiss the Church's lawsuit against them, claiming that the 17 pages of the Church Handbook of Instructions that they posted on their website are not copyrighted.
www.mormonstoday.com /991121/NGeneral.shtml   (753 words)

  
 Pages 10-11--Joseph Smith's 1831 Polygamy Revelation, A Response to the Anonymous LDS Historian, Jerald and Sandra ...   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
If the author of Jerald and Sandra Tanner's Distorted View of Mormonism had taken the time to thoroughly read our book, he would never have made the serious error of accusing us of suppressing information on the 1831 revelation.
Actually, the author of Jerald and Sandra Tanner's Distorted View of Mormonism could not possibly have picked a worse area to criticize.
The claim that we suppressed knowledge concerning the 1831 revelation is about as far from the truth as it is possible to be.
www.xmission.com /~country/reason/clndest2.htm   (2300 words)

  
 Anonymous LDS Historian's Response to Mormonism: Shadow or Reality? - SHIELDS
Moreover, the Tanners cast the LDS Archives in a sinister light because it was closed to the public for many decades, but fail to comment that
The failure to cite well-known evidence that challenges their conclusions occurs repeatedly in the Tanners' analysis of the seven-volume History of the Church.
A similar non sequitur occurs when the Tanners say (on page 304) that "it is logical to assume" that a letter written by an anti-Mormon at Marissa, Illinois on November 23, 1967 (with at least a two-day transit) to the Metropolitan Museum of New York was the cause of the
www.shields-research.org /Critics/Tanner05.html   (12775 words)

  
 Tanner Worship
The Tanners would probably be upset to know that they've been a tremendous AID to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints since they force our members to have greater awareness of our roots and heritage.
The Tanners then become the unwitting foundation for the Mormon determined to understand early Mormonism and this Mormon is given something tangible to hold on to (whether it be the Journal of Discourses or Parley P. Pratt) and his serious study begins.
The Tanners are smart and have known for over thirty years that human nature ensures they will rarely encounter a Mormon who can systematically refute their portrayal of Mormonism when it's based upon historical writings.
www.adherents.com /people/pt/Jerald_Sandra_Tanner.html   (9805 words)

  
 Utah Lighthouse Ministries (ULM) - The Tanners - SHIELDS
Utah Lighthouse Ministry is owned and operated by Jerald and Sandra Tanner.
The Tanners were once members of the LDS Church, but have turned from it.
Review of Jerald and Sandra Tanner, "Joseph Smith's Use of the Apocrypha." Salt Lake City Messenger 89 (December 1995): 1-14.
www.shields-research.org /Critics/Tanners.htm   (518 words)

  
 Copyright Decision Against Anti-Mormons (CESNUR)   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
Since other anti-Mormons subsequently reposted the "Handbook" on their own Web sites, the Tanner offered links to these sites, claiming that this was a way to bypass LDS censorship.
The Court has now found the Tanners guilty of contributory infringement through the mere fact of linking, and has ordered the links removed.
Firstly, the fact that the Tanner's intent was to attack and criticize the copyright owner carried a weight in determining the decision (the situation is certainly different when texts are reproduced for scholarly or research purposes, without any attempt at damaging the reputation of the copyright owner).
www.cesnur.org /testi/tanners.htm   (292 words)

  
 Jerald and Sandra Tanner   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-22)
"Jerald and Sandra Tanner have read widely enough in the sources of LDS history to provide that [larger] perspective, but they do not.
Although the most conscientious and honest researcher can overlook pertinent sources of information, the repeated omissions of evidence by the Tanners suggest an intentional avoidance of sources that modify or refute their caustic interpretation of Mormon history." ("Career Apostates,"dialogue,summer 1984,pp.35-60)
For a report on a discussion at the Utah Lighthouse Ministry's bookstore between Sandra Tanner and three LDS Scholars, click here
www.angelfire.com /ga/kevgram/Tanners.html   (146 words)

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