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	JOE CHOYNSKI
		Joe Choynski was a world-class fighter who tangled with larger men on a regular basis.
		Joe explained to the businessmen in the Big Apple that he could not fight because of his injuries but was told a “deal is a deal” and he must honor his contract.
		Choynski is described as "the greatest of all modern Jewish heavyweights" by Blady (1988 p 26), who later reported (1988 p 37) that, “Joe Choynski has been acclaimed by E.J. Muller, the [a] Director of the San Francisco Historical Boxing Museum, as that city’s ‘greatest uncrowned champion’.
	www.fightbeat.com /garfields/choynski.php (3184 words)

	When Jewish Fighters Dominated Boxing
		Joe Choynski was the exception--he came from an affluent family; his father was the first Jewish graduate of Yale who published a muckracking newspaper in San Francisco.
		Joe Choynski probably would have been a light heavyweight champion, but between the years of 1888 and 1902 when he fought, this weight class didn't exist, so he had to fight fighters bigger than he was.
		Choynski took the challenge, and the promoter called it a "physical education instruction." Choynski knocked Johnson out in the third round; and then five Texas Rangers threw both of them in jail where they became great friends and sparred for the guards.
	www.useless-knowledge.com /1234/mar/article398.html (873 words)

	Boxing News: Joe Choynski: Gatekeeper To Greatness Hardcore Boxing, hcboxing.com, ...
		Joe Choynski was born of Jewish extraction in San Francisco on November 8, 1868.
		Choynski used his experience to keep the younger Johnson at bay, and knocked him cold with a left hook in the third round.
		Choynski and Johnson were jailed for 23 days after the fight for violating a law forbidding a fight between a white man and a fl man. While in jail, Choynski tutored Johnson on the finer nuances of the art.
	www.hardcoreboxing.net /GSmith2222005.htm (1280 words)

	Amatoboxing (amatoboxingsite.multiply.com) - JOE CHOYNSKI by Sam Gregory
		Choynski fought some of the most outstanding heavyweights at the turn of the century despite the fact that he was usually outweighed, sometimes as much as 50 pounds.
		Choynski could see the raw talent in Johnson and ignored the color barrier that was so prevalent in the early 1900’s.
		Joe Choynski was a world class fighter; he not only fought the best, but also had the endorsement of his fellow fighters as well as the media.
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		Choynski taught Johnson the finer points of boxing while both men were in prison for having fought each other in a ring (at this time, laws prevented fls and whites from boxing one another).
		Choynski quickly became known as the first businessman-fighter, as he would usually insist on a 50-50 split of the money at a time when the winner usually took at least 80 percent.
		Joe never got a shot at the heavyweight title -- when Corbett, Fitzsimmons, and Jeffries were World Champions, they refused to give Choynski a title bout -- despite having battled, on equal terms, all the top fighters of the division.
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		Choynski taught Johnson the finer points of boxing while both men were in prison for having fought each other in a ring (at this time, laws prevented fls and whites from boxing one another).
		Choynski quickly became known as the first businessman-fighter, as he would usually insist on a 50-50 split of the money at a time when the winner usually took at least 80 percent.
		Joe never got a shot at the heavyweight title -- when Corbett, Fitzsimmons, and Jeffries were World Champions, they refused to give Choynski a title bout -- despite having battled, on equal terms, all the top fighters of the division.
	www.jewsinsports.org /boxing.asp?ID=4 (1185 words)

	Joe “Chrysanthemum Joe” Choynski
		Although he was never given a chance to fight for the World Heavyweight Championship, Joe Choynski fought the great boxers of his time in non-title bouts.
		Joe, who often gave away 30 to 70 pounds to an opponent, the Light-Heavyweight Division was not created until 1903, a year before he retired.
		Choynski retired in 1904, after 20 years in the ring.
	www.jewishsports.net /biopages/JoeChoynski.htm (331 words)

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	WAIL! The CBZ Journal (March 2002)
		The fact is that Choynski was a well-coordinated athlete who thoroughly understood how to fight another man. He manipulated his man around the ring, set him up with various tactics, and when the time was right - seized the moment to impart a solid smash to his adversary.
		Choynski was highly intelligent and well read in the classics, and often in his correspondence referred to some quotation to make a point" (see Kramer and Stern 1974 p 342).
		Jeffries described his fight with Joe, "Choynski rushed and we went at it hammer and tongs, with the crowd going wild.
	cyberboxingzone.com /boxing/w0502-tc.htm (3319 words)

	The Reporter - Rumors of big boxing match had area buzzing
		Joseph Bartlett Choynski was the son of Polish Jewish immigrant parents.
		His father was the antiquarian bookman and publisher Isidor Choynski, who made sure that his son was well-versed in the classics.
		Although Choynski never won any of the major titles, he was recognized as a fast, thoughtful boxer with the hardest punch of any boxer of his generation.
	www.thereporter.com /solanohistory/ci_5355385 (1038 words)

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		Barbadian, Joe Walcott, World Welterweight Boxing Champion during the early 1900's, is perhaps the only West Indian, universally recognised as a boxing legend.
		The rest is history, Jersey Joe Walcott is remembered today as one of the greatest Lightheavyweights that ever lived and a classy World Heavyweight Champion.
		This anecdote should not detract from the aura of the original Joe Walcott, for boxing historians the world over recognise him for what he was - a genius of an athlete and one of the finest pound for pound boxers of all time.
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	Jack Johnson - Biography and career (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-25)
		Choynski, an experienced boxer, knocked Johnson out, and the two were arrested for "engaging in an illegal contest" and jailed for 23 days.
		Joe Louis was not able to box for the heavyweight title until he proved he could "act white", and was warned against gloating over fallen opponents or having his picture taken with a white woman.
		Muhammad Ali in his autobiography relates how he and Joe Frazier agreed that Johnson and Joe Louis were the greatest boxers of old.
	www.fameboxing.com /jack-johnson.htm (1338 words)

	IBHOF / Joe Choynski (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-25)
		Choynski, who would eventually grow to 5'10" 172 pounds, had good boxing skills, but it was his toughness and awesome power that won him the respect from such all-time greats as Corbett, Jim Jefferies and Jack Johnson.
		The man known as "the California Terror" and "Little Joe" began his amateur career in 1884 and went on to win the Pacific Coast championship in 1887.
		Choynski gave Jefferies an unceremonious welcome to the upper echelons of the divisions.
	www.ibhof.com /choynski.htm (525 words)

	Joe Walcott, The Barbados Demon
		It was Joe Walcott, the Barbados Demon, welterweight champion of the world from 1901-1904, who actually coined the phrase "the bigger they are the harder they fall." Bob Fitzsimmons certainly popularized the saying before he faced Jim Jeffries, but it was Walcott who first said it.
		Joe Walcott, the "original", had the power to beat heavyweights; in fact he scored a first round kayo over 180 pound Tom McCarthy fairly early in his career.
		Joe died on Oct. 4, 1935 after being struck by a car in Manssillon, Ohio.
	www.coxsboxingcorner.com /walcott.html (1677 words)

	Burying The Demon
		Joe Walcott was born on March 13, 1873, in Barbados, British West Indies.
		"Barbados" Joe Walcott was a 5'1" freak of nature with a barrel chest and a reach equal to a much taller man. It was these physical attributes that enabled him to battle even heavyweights with success.
		Joe had been walking on night and was hit by a car dying at the scene.
	www.caribvoice.org /Sports/joewalcott.html (704 words)

	Bob Fitzsimmons - Death Valley Driver Video Review Message Board
		Choynski, the fine Jewish brawlers from Jim Corbett's home gym in San Francisco, regularly fought and defeated much larger heavyweights despite being only slightly larger than the newly puffed-up Fitzsimmons at perhaps 170lb.
		The two fighters met in Boston on June 17th, 1894 and though Choynski was undefeated in his previous 16 fights and considered Fitzsimmons' toughest test to date he was beaten mercilessly and floored repeatedly by the flsmith's well-placed power shots.
		Near the end of the 5th round, with Choynski once more on the canvas and struggling to regain his feet, the Boston police raided the club where the fight was being held and put a stop to the bout.
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	Boxing in the Klondike - Part 1
		The famous "Chrysanthemum" Joe Choynski was brought to the Yukon just the year before to test the local favourite and was beaten.
		That fight, with another contender Joe Millett, was supposed to have been 1904's fight of the year.
		He was in Joe Boyle's town and he had embarrassed his host.
	www.yukonalaska.com /klondike/boxing.html (2723 words)

	Amatoboxing (amatoboxingsite.multiply.com) - Posts (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-25)
		Joe was very adept at timing a jab and then either slipping under it or slipping to the side of it.
		Joe would now have his head on the opponent's chest and he would pummel the stomach, ribs and kidneys with savage purpose.
		Joe Louis was getting on in years and Jimmy Bivins was still in his mid twenties and beating everyone available.In 1944 Jimmy too entered the Army.
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	Legends
		He turned pro in 1917 and beat Joe Stecher for the World’s professional championship in two falls, the first after one hour and 22 minutes, and the second after one hour and 40 minutes.
		Barbados Joe, was a double-threat, a champion wrestler before trying his formidable hands at boxing.
		Joe fought in the despicable days when the color barrier prevented the majority of fl vs. white matches.
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		He turned pro in 1917 and beat Joe Stecher for the World’s professional championship in two falls, the first after one hour and 22 minutes, and the second after one hour and 40 minutes.
		Barbados Joe, was a double-threat, a champion wrestler before trying his formidable hands at boxing.
		Joe fought in the despicable days when the color barrier prevented the majority of fl vs. white matches.
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	Is Jack Johnson Free at Last? \| TheSweetScience.com Boxing
		He was a great champion, one of a kind, decades ahead of his time, but because of his race and uppity ways, because he rankled the establishment, he was deemed an enemy of the state and paid the price.
		Choynski was 32-years-old and past his prime, but he had sixty-eight bouts to his credit, including fights with John L. Sullivan, Gentleman Jim Corbett, Bob Fitzsimmons and Jim Jeffries.
		Johnson was thirty-seven at the time and the good life had taken its toll, but it wasn’t until the twenty-sixth round, under a blistering Caribbean sun, that the lumbering Willard caught Johnson coming off the ropes and clubbed him to the canvas with a combination.
	www.thesweetscience.com /boxing-article/1370/jack-johnson-free-last (1423 words)

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		Choynski shoule be given extra credit for being one of the first men to break the color barrier at the time and fight deserving fl fighters.
		He beat George Godfrey by kayo, who at the time was calling himself "America's colored champion" and was said to have carried the beaten Godfrey back to his corner.
		As good as Choynski was good but could not beat his nemesis Corbett in 3 tries, any one of which would have made him the champion.
	members.tripod.com /~bxhof/choynski.html (231 words)

	Battle of the barge - (Benicia Article)
		And then there was the bloody truth: 27 rounds; two broken hands (both belonging to the winner!); burning blistering, feet, police pursuits, a dangling lip that needed to be snipped between rounds -- without anesthetic; and a deck so bloody the fighters lost their footing.
		Choynski was smart and sturdy, the harder puncher and stronger man, though his bull-like rushes were no match for Corbett's fancy footwork.
		It is also said that the flap of Choynski's torn lip was 'repaired' by being snipped off with a scissors in full view of the crowd.
	www.benicianews.com /articles/index.cfm?artOID=7013&webpage=0&s=1 (1262 words)

	Cyber Boxing Zone -- Joe Choynski
		Choynski was a clever, well-coordinated fighter who hit hard with each fist and moved well on his feet; He was one of the outstanding light heavyweights at the turn of last century; He also fought as a heavyweight, despite weighing less than 180 pounds
		Choynski was inducted into the Ring Boxing Hall of Fame in 1960 and the International Boxing Hall of Fame in 1998
		Choynski was his sparring partner in many performances
	www.cyberboxingzone.com /boxing/choynski.htm (1433 words)

	Unforgivable Blackness . Sparring . Johnson's Rise \| PBS
		Many in the local boxing establishment thought Johnson was cocky, and they had brought Choynski in to knock Johnson down a peg.
		Choynski knocked out Johnson in the third round, just as the Texas Rangers arrived.
		Choynski was impressed by Johnson's skill, and told him "A man who can move like you should never have to take a punch."
	www.pbs.org /unforgivableblackness/sparring/rise.html (1033 words)

	O What A Morning - the Story of Jack Johnson \| Boxing blog
		In 1901 Johnson was arrested for participating in an illegal contest with Joe Choynski.
		Joe Choynski was a world class middleweight boxer.
		Choynski was one of the most intelligent fighters of his time.
	www.tko-boxing.com /o-what-a-morning-the-story-of-jack-johnson-arthur-john (1531 words)

	Boxing Insider : Columns : Sailor Tom Sharkey - Part 1
		In '98, after a tuneup fight with Sailor Brown, he was matched with 28-year-old Joe Choynski, a clever boxer who had not suffered a loss since 1891.
		It proved to be a terrible mismatch as Choynski dominated the action from the opening bell, attacking the stocky sailor without mercy.
		Joe hit him with every ounce of strength he possessed, and it was considerable, but Sharkey would not yield.
	www.boxinginsider.com /columns/stories/160100870.php (551 words)

	wbur.org Arts - Books - Natasha
		The author sums up the scene with admirable understatement: "Many of these things had nothing to do with sex." Natasha also bestows a peculiar gift on Mark's uncle, one designed to spare the man the tribulation of staying married to her mother.
		In this tale, the author switches back and forth from his dying grandmother to his research into the life of Joe Choynski, the Jewish prize fighter who, as legend has it, taught Jack Johnson the moves that made him champ.
		Fascinating as Joe Choynski may have been (to say nothing of the author's grandmother), the juxtaposition doesn't work.
	www.wbur.org /arts/2004/49363_20040712.asp (1258 words)

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