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  CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Early Historical Documents On Jesus Christ
Josephus must have mentioned Jesus, but he cannot have recognized Him as the Christ; hence part of our present Josephan text must be genuine, part must be interpolated.
Whatever force these two arguments have is lost by the fact that Josephus did not write for the Jews but for the Romans; consequently, when he says, "This was the Christ", he does not necessarily imply that Jesus was the Christ considered by the Romans as the founder of the Christian religion.
The historical character of Jesus Christ is also attested by the hostile Jewish literature of the subsequent centuries.
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  Josephus on Jesus - Paul Maier   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-27)
Josephus must have mentioned Jesus in authentic core material at 18:63 since this passage is present in all Greek manuscripts of Josephus, and the Agapian version accords well with his vocabulary and grammar elsewhere.
Moreover, Jesus is portrayed as a "wise man" [sophos aner], a phrase not used by Christians but employed by Josephus for such Old Testament figures as David and Solomon.
Josephus' second reference to Jesus in connection with the death of his half-brother James (20:200) shows no tampering whatever and is present in all Josephus manuscripts.
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 TBK - The Jesus Forgery: Josephus Unveiled
When addressing the mythical nature of Jesus Christ, one issue repeatedly raised is the purported "evidence" of his existence to be found in the writings of Flavius Josephus, the famed Jewish general and historian who lived from about 37 to 100 CE.
Indeed, Josephus was a well-educated Jew who lived in the precise area where the gospel tale was said to have taken place, as did his parents, the latter at the very time of Christ's alleged advent.
Even if the Josephus passage were authentic, which we have essentially proved it not to be, it nevertheless would represent not an eyewitness account but rather a tradition passed along for at least six decades, long after the purported events.
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 Jesus.Com.Au - Library - Documents - Josephus: On Jesus, Herod, John the Baptist   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-27)
Flavius Josephus was, by his own account, an educated Jew who obtained a Galilean military command in 66 CE before deserting to the Romans.
Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure.
Josephus says that Jesus disciples 'did not cease', and we have to ask, 'Did not cease to do what?' the answer will be in accordance with the context, and in the kind of context we envisage, 'did not cease to cause trouble' makes good sense.
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 Josephus on Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The passages in question give accounts of John the Baptist, Jesus's ministry (along with his death and resurrection), and the activities of the early church in which it resembles nothing so much as a faith healing movement; they are, however, bizarre in their inaccuracy and distortions of the matters.
In addition, the claim that Pilate condemned Jesus to be crucified and to die has been interpreted as a reaction to the Muslim belief that Jesus did not really die on the cross.
Josephus mentions at least nineteen people named "Jesus," a number of them living in the first third of the first century.
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 THEJESUS INTERPOLATION IN JOSEPHUS
Josephus is an invaluable source for the history of Judaism in the Second Temple period.
Josephus was born in 37 C.E. and was given the Hebrew name Joseph ben Mattathias.
So, according to Josephus, the destruction of Jerusalem happened as a consequence of the death of Ananus which casts a very dark shadow over the testimony of Origen of Alexandria, who claimed that Jospehus believed that the destruction of Jerusalem was due to the martyrdom of James, the brother of Jesus.
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 Jesus.com.au - Flavius Josephus
In chapter 18 Josephus has been discussing various disturbances and troubles of the period involving the Jews (two of Pilate's more culturally insensitive projects in Jerusalem, Jesus and the Christians, a scandalous but unrelated tale of deception and seduction in Rome, and the expulsion of 4,000 Jews from the capital).
Josephus was not a Christian and did not believe Jesus to be the Christ.
In a passage that refers to the death of Jesus' brother James, Jesus is merely said to be the 'the one called Christ', or possibly 'the so-called Christ' (Antiquities 20.200).
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 Did Josephus Refer to Jesus
Josephus himself incorporated a rough summary of the whole in his proem, and though it is improbable that these more elaborate chapter headings are the product of his pen, they may not be far removed from him in date.
Josephus did originally include an account of Jesus in his record of the governorship of Pilatus, we have every reason to be confident that he had his own good reasons for believing what he wrote to be true.
Jesus was both a teacher and a wonder-worker, that he got into trouble with some of the leaders of the Jews, that he was executed under the prefect Pontius Pilate, and that his followers continued to exist at the time of Josephus' writing.
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 Testimonium Flavianum
This would not be at all inconsistent with Josephus' style, particularly if he discounted as later followers' embellishments the claims made by Christians that Jesus was the Messiah.
About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he was one who wrought surprising feats and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly.
The only usually undisputed allusion to Jesus in Josephus is actually only a passing reference in the context of the trial of James.
ccat.sas.upenn.edu /~humm/Topics/JewishJesus/josephus.html   (936 words)

  
 from jesus to christ: a portrait of jesus' world: josephus, our primary source
Josephus himself grew up in and around Jerusalem; he claims to have been a part of the Pharisaic group.
Josephus is [also] interesting from another perspective because he clearly embellishes the stories from his own experience.
Josephus is certainly among the most enigmatic personages in the history of the Jewish people.
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 Josephus and Jesus Christ
Although Josephus may have viewed the story of Jesus as a rumor when he wrote this passage, he is intrigued by the story.
Certainly there was confusion among the disciples of Jesus over the role of the Messiah even after His resurrection, as expressed on the road to Emmaus (Luke 24:13-35) and in the beginning of Acts (1:6).
The TF remains an excellent answer to the question, “Are there historical references to Jesus Christ outside the Bible?” Despite aggressive and hostile critiques of this passage, a large majority of scholars have come to the conclusion that it is mostly the original work of Josephus himself (Whiston and Maier, page 662).
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 Josephus Jewish Antiquities
This excerpt from Josephus is important for the accurate knowledge it displays of the relationships and the political relations between the Romans and the various factions in Jerusalem.
James, the brother of Jesus who was called the Christ, and certain others.
The Sicarii captured at night during a festival the secretary of the Temples Captain of the guard a man called Eleazar son of Ananias the high priest.
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 Josephus on Jesus
Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure.
But a recent study by Alice Whealey has demonstrated that a variant Greek text of this sentence existed in the 5th century—"He was believed to be the Christ." The standard text, then, has simply become corrupt by the loss of the main verb and a subsequent scribal "correction" of the prolative infinitive.
In addition, the claim that Pilate condemned Jesus to be crucified and to die has been interpreted as a reaction to the Muslim belief that Jesus did not really die on the cross.
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 Josephus
Josephus mentions Jesus in Antiquities, Book 18, chapter 3, paragraph 3 (this paragraph is so phenomenal, that scholars now debate the authenticity of some of the more “favorable” portions of this text):
Jesus the eternal Son of God, who lived a sinless life, loves us so much that He died for our sins, taking the punishment that we deserve, was buried, and rose from the dead according to the Bible.
If you truly believe and trust this in your heart, receiving Jesus alone as your Savior, declaring, "Jesus is Lord," you will be saved from judgment and spend eternity with God in heaven.
www.allabouthistory.org /josephus.htm   (482 words)

  
 Josephus and Christ
In various places throughout Josephus' writings, whether he is describing his personal life or depicting the history of his Jewish ancestors, one gets a clear picture of a distinct relationship between Josephus and Christ.
From "The Life of Flavius Josephus," when Josephus speaks of a boat excursion he made at age 26, he says that it was by God's providence that he and his fellows did not drown after a near sinking in a storm.
When the residents of Galilee turned against Josephus and he contemplated his slim chances of living, Josephus openly committed the care of his life to God and opted not to run or even try to kill himself before his pursuers did.
www.allabouthistory.org /josephus-and-christ-faq.htm   (665 words)

  
 Josephus in the Ante-Nicene Fathers: all the citations
Josephus says, that when Moses had been brought up in the royal palaces, he was chosen as general against the Ethiopians; and having proved victorious, obtained in marriage the daughter of that king, since indeed, out of her affection for him, she delivered the city up to him.
Flavius Josephus the Jew, who composed the history of the Jews, computing the periods, says that from Moses to David were five hundred and eighty-five years; from David to the second year of Vespasian, a thousand one hundred and seventy-nine; then from that to the tenth year of Antoninus, seventy-seven.
And I think it in harmony with reason that Jesus was the first-fruit among men of the purity which consists in chastity, and Mary among women; for it were not pious to ascribe to any other than to her the first-fruit of virginity.
www.tertullian.org /rpearse/josephus/josephus.htm   (3224 words)

  
 Historicity Of Jesus FAQ
This "FAQ", often referred to as the "Historicity of Jesus" FAQ, is neither exhaustive, nor does it attempt to answer the question of whether Jesus of Nazareth really lived or not.
The early Christian writer Origen claims that Josephus did NOT recognize Jesus as the Messiah, in direct contradiction to the above passage, where Josephus says, "He was the Messiah." Thus, we may conclude that this particular phrase at least was a later insertion.
In particular, Josephus probably did not claim that Jesus was the Messiah, or that he rose from the dead.
www.infidels.org /library/modern/scott_oser/hojfaq.html   (2757 words)

  
 Evidence for Jesus - Understanding Josephus' comment
It is highly likely that Josephus included Jesus in his account of the period.Josephus discussed John the Baptist and other prophetic figures, such as Theudas and the Egyptian.
Further, the passage on Jesus is not adjacent to Josephus' account of John the Baptist, which is probably where a Christian scribe would have put it had he invented the whole paragraph.
In short, Jesus was a charismatic leader whose special powers of miracle-working and teaching were acknowledged and ratified by his followers....
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 Testimonium Flavianum
In his autobiography, Josephus refers to the "principal men of the city" (2), "the principal men of Jerusalem" (7), the "principal men of the city" (12), the "principal men belonging to the city" (12), the "principal men of the city" (12), and the "principal men of Jerusalem" (44).
Josephus, at least, has not hesitated to testify this in his writings, where he says, 'These things happened to the Jews to avenge James the Just, who was a brother of Jesus, that is called the Christ.
Josephus could have used it in the sense of a nick-name, not as a title, and thus there would be no need to explain the meaning of the name.
www.earlychristianwritings.com /testimonium.html   (10786 words)

  
 (DV) Salisbury: History's Troubling Silence About Jesus
Josephus would have had to renounce his pharisaical beliefs to say Jesus was the Christ.
In 70 CE Jerusalem is besieged by the Roman army and Israel as a nation is destroyed and dispersed.
Josephus does mention a Japha which is a suburb of present-day Nazareth.
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 Josephus
About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he was one who performed surprising deeds and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly.
About this time there was Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he was one who performed surprising deeds and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly.
To Luke, Jesus was mighty in deed and word before God; the phrase is a Semitism, most likely a rendition of the Hebrew lifne adonai, which can be rendered "in the opinion of the Lord." These deeds and words were witnessed and approved of by the Lord, that is, they were of a religious nature.
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 PTET - Did Josephus mention Jesus Christ?   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-27)
One point of interest is that Josephus is cited fourteen times by early Christian writers in the Ante-Nicence Fathers - and these are the only mentions of this supposed reference to Christ before Eusebius in the fourth century.
In short, while there is reason to doubt the validity of any references to Jesus Christ in the works of Josephus, the general consensus is that they are genuine at least in part.
Josephus in the Ante-Nicene Fathers: all the citations, Roger Pearse, Tertullian.org.
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 Historian Josephus Descibes Jesus - Jesus Central jesuscentral.com Life-of-jesus-ancient
Josephus was a Jewish historian who lived circa 37-100 AD.
James, the Brother of Jesus: Antiquities 20.9.1 "So he assembled the sanhedrim of judges, and brought before them the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James, and some others; and when he had formed an accusation against them as breakers of the law, he delivered them to be stoned..."
Jesus, Wise Man and Teacher: Antiquities 18.3.3 "Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, (if it be lawful to call him a man,) for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure.
www.jesuscentral.com /ji/life-of-jesus-ancient/jesus-josephus.php   (251 words)

  
 Josephus and Jesus. Christ Myth Refuted. Did Jesus Exist? A Christian Response
Since Josephus was not a contemporary of Jesus or his ministry, his methods were such that he naturally would write less about people like Jesus or John the Baptist, and only what could be corroborated by inquiry in his own day, writing in the 90s AD.
Jesus argued against the zealous revolutionaries and was not an apocalyptic fanatic; Jospehus would have admired this argument and position.
Jesus uttered many wise and philosophical maxims and Josephus was fond of Jewish wisdom and of Greek philosophy.
www.tektonics.org /jesusexist/josephus.html   (4098 words)

  
 TIME.com: Josephus and Jesus -- Feb. 28, 1972 -- Page 1   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-27)
That passage by Josephus, a 1st century Jewish historian writing in Greek, was for centuries perhaps the most cited piece of non-Christian testimony to the life and works of Jesus.
But Josephus' ingenuous paragraph appeared to be everything that Christian apologists could ask from a supposedly unbiased source: virtual confirmation of the basic truths of their faith.
But the two agree in thinking that the new passage derives from a quotation of Josephus in an early edition of an ecclesiastical history by Bishop Eusebius of Caesarea, a commanding figure of 3rd and 4th century Christianity.
www.time.com /time/magazine/article/0,9171,905859,00.html   (638 words)

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