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	Nov 2007 Questions And Answers
		Andrew, the PPK/S was introduced in 1968 due to silly bureaucratic restrictions imposed by the U. Gun Control Act of 1968 which required that import pistols have a minimum depth of four inches.
		He was in WWII but had the gun tagged 1918, recovered from the Battle of the Bulge.
		He also had a similar gun, that had no markings on it except a Chinese looking symbol.
	oldguns.net /q&a.htm (3541 words)

	Rifles And Light Machine-Guns - LoveToKnow 1911
		Some of these units with their guns were engaged in the battle of the Somme 1916 but apparently the result, in the trying conditions of the trench-warfare battle, was not very successful.' Tests have been made of the Madsen gun at different times in the British and United States armies.
		Guns of this weight, however, though they might be sufficiently mobile for trench warfare battles, were evidently too heavy for the more open warfare of 1917 and especially 1918, and a new and lighter model called the 08/18 was brought out.
		The gun fires when the bolt reaches its forward position as the striker projects through the face of the bolt, and is cocked when the mainspring is compressed and the bolt drawn to the rear.
	www.1911encyclopedia.org /Rifles_And_Light_Machine-Guns (12186 words)

	Divisional Machine Guns
		Machine gun companies that were attached to infantry battalions designated as division or brigade reserve for a particular mission were usually placed under direct command of their respective brigade commanders, to fill gaps of fire and to protect the brigade flanks.
		When in the former role, the guns were placed to cooperate with the field artillery units in neutralizing suspected enemy observation posts and machine guns during the attack and to sweep the approaches for possible enemy counterattacks after the capture of the final objective.
		When they employed their guns in that fashion, the machine gun officers often ran into opposition from the rifle company commanders, who preferred to have the guns farther forward, fearing that their infantrymen would be at risk of stray low rounds as they advanced under the overhead machine gun fire.
	www.worldwar1.com /dbc/divmguns.htm (1290 words)

	NationMaster - Encyclopedia: Lebel gun (Site not responding. Last check: )
		The Lebel was the standard bolt action rifle of the French army from 1886 until 1916, and would otherwise be the first truly modern military rifle had it not been for its magazine.
		Machine gun companies that were attached to infantry battalions designated as division or brigade reserve for a particular mission were usually placed under direct command of their respective brigade commanders, to fill gaps of fire and to protect the brigade flanks.
		When they employed their guns in that fashion, the machine gun officers often ran into opposition from the rifle company commanders, who preferred to have the guns farther forward, fearing that their infantrymen would be at risk of stray low rounds as they advanced under the overhead machine gun fire.
	www.nationmaster.com /encyclopedia/Lebel-gun (700 words)

	Vickers machine gun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		The gun was fitted with interrupter gear to allow it to fire through aircraft propellers, and slots were cut in the water jacket so that it was cooled by air flow instead.
		As the machine gun armament of fighters moved from the fuselage to the wings in the years before WW2, the Vickers with its cloth belts was replaced by the Browning Model 1919 with metal clips in some aircraft, especially fighters.
		The gun was 3 feet 8 inches (1.1 m) long and its cyclic rate of fire was between 450 and 600 rounds of ammunition per minute, with a range of approximately 4,500 yards (4,100 m).
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Vickers_machine_gun (1107 words)

	Chauchat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		The gun was much lighter (9 kilos) than the portable "light" machine guns of the period, such as the Maxim Mle 1908-15 and the Lewis gun.
		As a result, the Chauchats in 8mm Lebel continued to be used by the A.E.F. until supplies of the newly manufactured Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR) were allocated sparingly and late, during the Meuse-Argonne offensive (September 1918).
		The venerable 8mm Lebel round, which was one of the major handicaps of the CSRG, had been discarded for a 7.5mm rimless cartridge resembling a necked down 7.92mm German Mauser round.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Chauchat (2110 words)

	USCA1 Opinion
		Boulanger bases this argument on the fact that the police did not find a gun on him when they stopped him on the railroad tracks shortly after the robbery, and on the fact that the informant told the police that the gun he saw in the apartment was fake.
		Regarding Count II, Boulanger argues that neither Lebel nor Baron were able to positively identify the firearm found in the apartment as the firearm used in the robbery and that, at best, the evidence merely established that a robbery was committed with what appeared to be a firearm.
		Although Lebel and Baron originally told the officers that the man was between 5' and 5'4" tall, they testified differently, and it was up to the jury to resolve this discrepancy.
	www.ca1.uscourts.gov /cgi-bin/getopn.pl?OPINION=05-1477.01A (5186 words)

	Trench Warfare -- Social 10-7 (Site not responding. Last check: )
		The machine gun was a weapon that shot several rounds of ammunition in a matter of seconds.
		The problem with the machine guns is that they would frequently overheat, so then a water-cooled machine gun would have to be used.
		At first the machine gun was used as a defensive weapon, to keep enemies away from posts, but later the machine gun was also used as a very effective weapon inside the trenches and other situations in the war.
	www.freewebs.com /trenchwarfare/weapons.htm (739 words)

	Bambooweb: Lebel gun
		The Lebel Model 1886 rifle was the standard bolt action rifle of the French army from 1886 until 1916.
		The Lebel was based on the earlier Gras rifle of 1874, sharing it's somewhat oversized bolt handle and general layout.
		As is to be expected, the basic concept was soon copied by most rifle designers, and reached it's peak in the Mauser M98, which combined the new powder with a rimless cartridge and box magazine.
	www.bambooweb.com /articles/l/e/Lebel_gun.html (235 words)

	COALITION for Gun Control - Kids & Guns
		Guns are frequently part of the cycle of intimidation and violence that many victims face in their homes.
		A review of children and youth gun incidents since 1991 reveals that rifles and shotguns are the firearms most often recovered, and that they usually belong to a friend or a relative.
		Air guns are also the main cause of eye loss and a secondary cause of trauma in children and young adults.
	www.guncontrol.ca /Content/Kids.html (1846 words)

	Fusil d'Infanterie Mle.1886 dit "Lebel"
		The gun powder in use during this period was fl powder which, after firing left a powdery residue that can easily foul the bore causing the weapon to lose its accuracy and velocity.
		The Mle.1886 "Lebel" had a massive, exposed square slab sided receiver which necessitated the use of a two piece stock, a two piece bolt which had a detachable bolthead with straight bolt handle, and a 8 round manually loaded tubular magazine which give this weapon its distinctive look from all other weapons during that period.
		In 1893 the military had found some weaknesses in the arm so the Lebel was upgraded with the following major modifications, the bolt head was modified with a separate rotating shield to allow powder gases to safely be vented from the weapon in case of a primer was pierced or of cartridge case rupture.
	www.reenactor.net /units/151ri/weps/lebel.html (1108 words)

	July 1998 Questions And Answers
		In 1980 my grandfather bought a gun from a man who said it had never been fired, it is a Winchester model 94 rifle chambered for a.32 special it has a number on the receiver 233xxxx the rifle is in factory new condition by NRA standards.
		The gun is essentially a standard semi-automatic gun in a fl polymer bull-pup frame with a collapsible carrying handle on top and a swiveling shoulder/inner-elbow rest and a flip-up front sight.
		Gun was passed from oldest son to my father(youngest) and we think it may have been in the family for several generations.
	www.oldguns.net /q&a7_98.htm (7854 words)

	First World War.com - Encyclopedia - Hotchkiss Guns
		The French army's standard heavy tripod mounted machine gun throughout the war was the Hotchkiss 8mm M1914 machine gun.
		Even with the increased belt the gun was unable (for obvious reasons) to meet the theoretical cyclic rate of 600 rounds per minute.
		There were also concerns with the reliability of the gun's magazine feed; it was not deemed a particularly reliable weapon for use in the trenches.
	www.firstworldwar.com /atoz/mgun_hotchkiss.htm (373 words)

	French
		The Germans and their breech loading Dreyse needle guns had prooved the superiority of a cartridge gun.
		At the outbreak of WWI the French authorities realized that the Berthier was supperior to the lebel and issued it to line troops as the Fusil d'Infanterie MLE 07/15.
		The rimmed 8mm Lebel worked well in a tube magazine, but jammed in a box and did not function well in machine guns, thus the change.
	www.geocities.com /milsurpunderground/French.html (1404 words)

	A Historical Look at the .30-06
		Gun writer Dan Johnson shares his thoughts and opinions on all things that go boom.
		The gun was charged by means of a five-round clip, which held the cartridges in place by means of a curious flip-over wire bail.
		Guns and Ammo; the nation's leading gun and ammunition magazine, is now the web's best resource for information on current gun news, ammunition ballistics, long guns, hand guns and new products in the gun market.
	www.gunsandammomag.com /classics/3006_031306 (1085 words)

	Small Arms of the First World War - Small Arms of the Allied Powers
		This was not necessarily because the Lebel was so successful, on the contrary it was in fact outclassed by Mauser and Enfield rifles, but because French officials believed that a complete switch to another rifle was not justified because so many Lebel and Berthier rifles were in existance.
		Lewis Gun was a light machine gun invented by US Army Colonel Isaac Newton Lewis in 1911 and was adopted by the British in 1915 but not the US for political reasons.
		While the gun itself weighed 28 pounds, it was still half the weight of a full size Vickers machine gun and could be carried by a single soldier, not to mention also one sixth of the cost to produce.
	home.sandiego.edu /~wilsons-07/WWI/allied.html (3261 words)

	Argghhh! The Home Of Two Of Jonah's Military Guys..: Guns by Nation Archives
		There is no provenance for this gun, so let's assume it's Union (so no point in trying to steal it, goblins).
		The Ross is one of 20,000 or so that were bought by the US gov't for training during the early days of WWII, and is US Ordnance marked.
		This gun is SA marked, and may be either a gun repaired to carbine length, or a gun made after the war for the collectors market.
	www.thedonovan.com /archives/cat_guns_by_nation.html (2217 words)

	The Arms Room: November 2006
		The Lebel, a hastily-designed derivative of the tubular-magazine Kropatschek, and its 8x50mmR cartridge, which was based on the case head dimensions of the earlier 11mm Gras round to theoretically allow for emergency conversions of older rifles, were obsoleted almost overnight by Mauser and Mannlicher designs which were loaded with clips or from chargers.
		Being saddled with the fat, rimmed 8mm Lebel round prevented the use of a Mauser-style staggered box magazine, and with the cartridges stacked vertically, the new carbine could only accommodate three rounds without (it was thought at the time) making the receiver impractically bulky, but it could be reloaded much faster than any shortened Lebel.
		The sights were the same as those on the Lebel; a tangent-type rear sight combined with a coarse front blade that had a thin notch in the middle for fine aiming.
	cosmolineandrust.blogspot.com /2006_11_01_archive.html (2648 words)

	New heart gave Manatee man more years (Site not responding. Last check: )
		LeBel's daughter caught the eye of pulmonologist Jim Copeland, who was part of the medical team that replaced LeBel's severely damaged heart.
		LeBel never learned the identity of the 27-year-old motorcycle accident victim whose family gave LeBel an extra decade of life, but he was forever thankful, said his sister, Sue Loiko of Sarasota.
		LeBel's family said that during his failing health in recent years, he was grateful for the help he received from his brother-in-law, Bill Loiko, of Sarasota, and close friend Bill Murray of Bradenton.
	www.heraldtribune.com /apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061119/NEWS/611190517/1006/SPORTS (593 words)

	10.4x38R from 8x50R Lebel brass - www.ezboard.com (Site not responding. Last check: )
		With the recent arrival of Graf brand Boxer 8x50R Lebel brass, I checked out the feasibility of using it to form 10.4x38R cases for Swiss Vetterli and Peabody rifles converted to centerfire.
		Lebel case dimensions are very close at head and rim to the 10.4x38R.
		Despite the slightly wider rim, the Lebel cases don't extract any better or worse in the Vetterli.
	p090.ezboard.com /fcollectorguns35625frm1.showMessage?topicID=7425.topic (1074 words)

	Weapons and Equipment
		Guns used in the field were almost always equpped with an armored blast shield (Armor 30), and a ground sight (often telescopic) was also mounted (the AA sight was left in place).
		The gun is transported on a forked two-wheel trailer, from which it could be fired (with a limited traverse).
		The gun was most often towed by a Chenillette UE Supply Carrier or truck, although it often suffered damage from towing and so was just as likely to be carried/mounted on the bed of a truck.
	www.mchome.net /dirk/weirdwars/weaponsequipment.htm (5901 words)

	Attorney General for Alberta v. Attorney General of Canada, 2000 SCC 31 (2000) (Site not responding. Last check: )
		Gun control has traditionally been considered valid criminal law because guns are dangerous and pose a risk to public safety.
		Parliament's aim was to reduce the misuse of guns in crime, including domestic violence, as well as to reduce suicides and accidents caused by the misuse of firearms.
		Given the general acceptance of the gun control legislation that has existed for the past hundred years, the constitutional validity of which has always been predicated on Parliament's concern for public safety, it is difficult to now impute a different purpose to Parliament.
	www.healylaw.com /cases/alberta.htm (14716 words)

	THE FRENCH CONNECTION II
		A total of only 1,168 Model 1917 Browning machine guns were delivered to Europe before hostilities ceased in November 1918, and the first recorded use of the BMG in combat did not occur until September 26, 1918, toward the end of the war.
		The Hotchkiss remained the primary medium-heavy machine gun used by the A.E.F throughout the summer of 1918 when most of the decisive battles of WWI were fought, and only replaced by the late arrival Browning in the fall of 1918.
		With 130+ pounds of gun and mount, plus all the ammo that is required to feed a machine gun of this capacity, it would have been necessary for soldiers to devise such a method to easily move the gun from one position to another without disassembly.
	www.tgca.net /french_connection_ii.htm (2544 words)

	::Infantry weapons in World War One::
		Some infantrymen were trained to use the relatively new machine gun but the majority had to make do with his rifle.
		The Lebel was first produced in 1886 so by 1914, it should have been a tried and tested weapon.
		Anyone loading the Lebel had to be very careful how they did this as there was a chance of the bullets exploding in the magazine as they were loaded nose to tail.
	www.historylearningsite.co.uk /infantry_weapons_in_world_war_on.htm (689 words)

	pistol2 (Site not responding. Last check: )
		M1874 is the same gun with a fluted cylinder.
		M 1892, "Revolver d'ordonnance modele 1892", AKA "Lebel" revolver in 8 mm Lebel (smokeless) with the belt holster.
		M 1892, "Revolver d'ordonnance modele 1892", AKA "Lebel" revolver in 8 mm Lebel (smokeless) with the sholder holster and straps.
	www.oldrifles.com /french-pistols.htm (112 words)

	Hotchkiss Mle 1914 8mm French Heavy Machine Gun
		At the outset of the War, the French Army was equipped with the Hotchkiss-S:t Etienne HMG Mle 1907, but this gun soon proved to be less than satisfactory, and was thus replaced with this model, the Puteaux-Hotchkiss Mle 1914.
		This new gun was produced quickly in large numbers, making it possible to re-equip the French Army.
		It was a very reliable weapon, with the only drawback being the feed method: the metallic feed trays with 24 or 30 8mm Lebel Rounds reduced the practical rate of fire.
	www.landships.freeservers.com /hotchkiss_mg_info.htm (367 words)

	[No title] (Site not responding. Last check: )
		The guns all look wicked and forbidding, for their technology is mostly borrowed from light machine guns, and their approach is no nonsense.
		The lady who said on Geraldo these guns could deliver "100 rounds in 20 seconds" was not only lying, she was being irrelevant.
		These guns are accurate to rough service levels to 500 yards or less in the hands of an experienced rifleman, but are not as accurate as traditional semiautomatic rifles.
	www.textfiles.com /politics/GUNS/arifle2.txt (2860 words)

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