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Topic: LocalTalk


In the News (Wed 23 Dec 09)

  
  LocalTalk   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
LocalTalk is a particular implementation of the AppleTalk networking system from Apple Computer.
LocalTalk can have a number of definitions, but the most rigorous is a system of four-wire cabling, plugged into self-terminating connectors, running the AppleTalk protocol stack, at a rate of 232,000 bits/s.
These ports were often referred to (erroneously) as "localtalk ports", and would be found on most Apple hardware until being replaced by USB and Ethernet in the late 1990s.
www.serebella.com /encyclopedia/article-LocalTalk.html   (256 words)

  
 MacTip #30, Mac Networking Basics.
LocalTalk- If you choose a LocalTalk network your point of contact for the network will be the printer port of each Mac.
LocalTalk is slow no matter how you look at it when used for transferring files.
Generally the limit of a LocalTalk networks ability to transfer information is about 30k per second, about 10 times as fast as a 33.6 modem.
www.themacintoshguy.com /mactips/archive/tip30.shtml   (2791 words)

  
 Macintosh Guide: TroubleShooting: Localtalk
LocalTalk is easy to set up and requires a minimal hardware investment for Macintoshes (and compatibles), but it has had little impact into the IBM (and compatibles) world, making LocalTalk cards expensive for those computers.
Apple's LocalTalk networking standard is not widely accepted by PC users, this has made it is more expensive than ethernet, whose extensive acceptance and varied third-party support has forced prices down.
Connecting a Macintosh to a LocalTalk network is easy; all that is needed is an active network jack, a teleconnector, phone wire, and a resistor.
www.yale.edu /acsca/macguide/Trouble/Localtalk.html   (1871 words)

  
 Sharing Disks and Files
LocalTalk is not common on Windows PCs, but you can add LocalTalk hardware to a PC (see MacWindows Solutions for products).
LocalTalk is usually used for small networks or ad hoc networks, when you need to temporarily move files between machines.
LocalTalk uses ordinary telephone wire with standard RJ-11 telephone connectors, the same as you use to plug in a telephone and modem.
www.macwindows.com /netbasic.html   (2600 words)

  
 Macintosh Networking - the Short Course
LocalTalk is built into the hardware of all Din8 Macs and in some of the 9 pin Macs, and is included in Mac OS versions 7.0 and later (System 6.0.8 has limited support as well.)
LocalTalk was originally designed to allow for basic printer and file sharing using AppleTalk (also built into the OS.) As a result, you'lll find a sometimes bizarre mix of connectivity options in printers.
The LocalTalk standard provides for speeds of up to 230.4 Kb/s (or about 29 KB/s), but not all Macs are capable of this speed - it depends on the version of the serial controller on the logic board.
www.mccsc.edu /~rschmelz/education/macnetworking.html   (2268 words)

  
 LocalTalk Overview
LocalTalk refers to the physical networking -- that means the built-in controller in many Apple computers, the cables and the expansion cards required on some systems.
It is often assumed that the LocalTalk box is only used with a mini DIN style printer port, so be careful to purchase the right one for your computer.
For the LocalTalk boxes at each end of the chain, only one of the mini DIN sockets is used.
www.mandrake.demon.co.uk /Apple/ltalkintro.html   (896 words)

  
 LocalTalk (Linktionary term)   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
LocalTalk is a LAN (local area network) protocol that defines AppleTalk packet transmission over a 230.4-Kbit/sec cabling system.
LocalTalk was originally called AppleTalk, but Apple changed the name in 1989 to LocalTalk.
LocalTalk is a physical bus topology that is wired with twisted-pair telephone wire in a daisy-chain configuration.
www.linktionary.com /l/localtalk.html   (230 words)

  
 Basic Networking
The LocalTalk printer(s) can be daisy-chained together with the first attached to the hardware bridge then the Ethernet cable is plugged in as well as the power cord.
All LocalTalk printers and file servers will be routed over the network making them available to Ethernet connected users as well.
The typical LocalTalk lab was daisy-chained in groups of computers, with a printer or two per table.
www.ops.org /tech/bas_netwk.html   (1349 words)

  
 LocalTalk transition continues
LocalTalk is not the same as AppleTalk, which connected Apple users over the network; now, Ethernet cabling provides the same services at enhanced speeds.
LocalTalk transition milestones were announced to customers in October and December, 1999, and February, March and April of this year.
A LocalTalk connection will be in the printer or modem port; if the connection is in any other port, it is probably an Ethernet connection, but it is possible to have both and Ethernet and a LocalTalk connection.
www.uh.edu /infotech/news/story.php?story_id=383   (602 words)

  
 Bridging LocalTalk and Ethernet
There are two kinds of wiring typically used on the Macintosh: LocalTalk and ethernet (see LocalTalk and Ethernet for more details).
LocalTalk is usually run on phone wire using Farallon PhoneNet adapters or a generic equivalent.
LocalTalk Bridge is a control panel (no longer supported by Apple, but apparently available for free download) that connects a LocalTalk network to an ethernet network.
www.lowendmac.com /network/bridge.shtml   (973 words)

  
 What is LocalTalk? - Knowledge Base
LocalTalk is a networking technology built into all Macintoshes that have modem and/or printer serial ports, most LaserWriters, and some other Macintosh printers.
LocalTalk networks are normally built with a daisy-chain topology (i.e., each device is connected to the next).
Though Apple sells its own LocalTalk cable, most LocalTalk networks use Proxim (formerly Farallon) PhoneNET connectors, which are cheaper and support longer cable lengths.
kb.iu.edu /data/aidj.html   (174 words)

  
 Connecting LocalTalk and Ethernet Networks
For new iMac or G4 owners who need LocalTalk network or printing access, a hardware bridge is the main option, since your Mac lacks serial ports.
LocalTalk Bridge is a free download from Apple.com, but hasn't been updated for a few years and may have compatibility problems with newer Macs.
Using a hardware bridge is as easy as plugging the printer into the LocalTalk port, then connecting the Ethernet Mac or network to the bridge's Ethernet port.
www.atpm.com /network/setup/localtalk_ethernet.htm   (568 words)

  
 Macintosh LocalTalk Network Setup
Note that LocalTalk is pretty slow, transmitting network data at about 30K per second.
You generally connect the LocalTalk adapter to the Mac's printer port, which is the default port for LocalTalk networks.
If you are missing terminators for your LocalTalk adapters, contact a manufacturer (like Proxim) to see if they have replacement terminators available.
atpm.com /network/setup/localtalk_adapters.html   (326 words)

  
 LocalTalk Bridge, LaserWriter Bridge 2.x: How To Use
Apple LocalTalk Bridge enables a Macintosh computer (the host) to function as a bridge between a LocalTalk network and an Ethernet, token ring, or infrared network.
The LocalTalk network should be connected to the printer port of the host.
Versions of LaserWriter Bridge and LocalTalk Bridge prior to 2.1 are not compatible with Open Transport, and version 2.1 is not fully compatible with Mac OS 8.5 and later.
docs.info.apple.com /article.html?artnum=17476   (827 words)

  
 Windows NT: Planning Your AppleTalk Network
However, LocalTalk is not as fast as ethernet; consequently, network performance is not as good as it would be if all the clients used ethernet.
LocalTalk networks can have as many as 254 nodes (but are actually limited to 32 or fewer nodes because of media capacity); EtherTalk and TokenTalk networks can have as many as 253 nodes for every number in the network range, for a maximum of 16.5 million nodes.
The seed router for LocalTalk network #2 must be Server 5, because the router on Server 5 is the only one available for this network.
www.microsoft.com /technet/archive/winntas/proddocs/network/xns17.mspx   (3261 words)

  
 Connecting the printer
LocalTalk refers to the physical connection; AppleTalk is the protocol.
LocalTalk connectors and cables are available through your local reseller.
You can use LocalTalk connectors and cables to connect the printer directly to your computer, without connecting it to any other network.
www.office.xerox.com /userdoc/P450/02Chapter3.html   (1091 words)

  
 LocalTalk to EtherTalk
LocalTalk Bridge takes very little memory and works amazingly well, even on older Macintosh II vintage boxes.
LocalTalk Bridge is officially unsupported and needs a version of Mac OS between 7.1 and 8.1.
LocalTalk Bridge 2.1, the final version ever to be, is available on Apple's Web site.
www.math.louisville.edu /~lee/macwritings/LCN9910.shtml   (1412 words)

  
 Guidelines for retiring LocalTalk network connections
The migration from LocalTalk connections to Ethernet connections for Macintosh computers and printers is designed to enhance the quality of networking service Macintosh customers receive.
First, customers with LocalTalk devices should contact the IT Support Center or their local service provider to begin the process of retiring their LocalTalk connections.
LocalTalk is scheduled to be shut down on this date.
www.uh.edu /infotech/news/story.php?story_id=545   (476 words)

  
 Small Dog Electronics - New and Refurbished Apple / Mac Computers
Since LocalTalk networks use the printer port on older Macs, all you need to buy are PhoneNet connectors for each Mac or printer you wish to network.
That's all you need for a simple LocalTalk network, but given that it's highly unlikely that a new Mac will ever support LocalTalk again, you're probably going to be more interested in using LocalTalk to connect an older Macintosh or printer to an Ethernet network.
Whereas LocalTalk networks use a daisy chain configuration, 10Base-T Ethernet networks use a star configuration, with the hub at the center of the star.
www.smalldog.com /buyguides/networkprimer.html   (2178 words)

  
 LocalTalk PC Board Info Page
The LocalTalk PC board is an expansion board for your IBM/PC compatible that allows your PC to talk with your Macintosh; it's a network card.
LocalTalk is the hardware protocol for the physical network medium, including pinouts, voltage specifications, etc. The network protocol that the two computers use is AppleTalk.
The PC with the Ethernet and LocalTalk adapaters serves as this router.
www.the4cs.com /~corin/localtalk   (630 words)

  
 LocalTalk   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
However, because it communicates at only 230.4 Kbps and is normally limited to the AppleTalk protocol, it has largely been superseded by Ethernet.
LocalTalk networks are normally built with a linear-bus topology.
Though Apple sells its own LocalTalk cable, most LocalTalk networks use Farallon PhoneNET connectors, which are cheaper and support longer cable lengths.
www.bodeen.org /networking/localtalk.html   (112 words)

  
 Mac-Linux Networking Issue 26   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
The Macintosh-router segment is LocalTalk and the router-Linux box segment is Ethernet (thinnet).
Some people might say that LocalTalk, at 230 KB/sec is too slow to be useful for networking.
However, since Ethernet packets can be almost 3 times larger than LocalTalk packets, one thing to try is to move the burden of reducing the packet size from the router to the Linux box by reducing the MTU parameter of the Linux Ethernet interface.
www.lg.ps.pl /issue26/dubs.html   (1995 words)

  
 Zoom Telephonics: Zoom TribeStar IP Now Includes IP Support and Patch Panel
TribeStar IP is a switching hub with eight packet-switched 230,400 Kbps LocalTalk ports and one 10 Mbps Ethernet port.
TribeStar IP can create a path between established LocalTalk and Ethernet networks that is eight times broader than a typical hub or router, eliminating slow hub or router bottlenecks.
Because TribeStar IP processes concurrent LocalTalk signals by packet-switching among its eight LocalTalk ports, it is much faster than ordinary LocalTalk hubs, which can usually handle only one signal at a time.
www.zoom.com /about/news97_18.html   (576 words)

  
 Connecting Macs
LocalTalk's biggest disadvantage is speed, which brings me to the third and final option: Ethernet.
One last point, somewhat related to both ethernet and LocalTalk: if you have a computer with both types of interfaces (any Mac with an Ethernet port/card will work as long as it has a standard mini DIN-8 serial port too), you can set up that computer as a LocalTalk Bridge.
With a LocalTalk Bridge in place (I use an SE/30 for mine, and have a LaserJet 6MP, LaserWriter, Classic, Classic II, Plus, and SE on the LocalTalk portion of my network), all the LocalTalk devices can see (and, optionally, be seen by) all the ethernet-equipped devices.
chrislawson.net /writing/macdaniel/2k0201.shtml   (1245 words)

  
 Connecting LocalTalk Devices to Ethernet Networks
One solution we are considering is clustering the machines and printers and put them on an EtherPrint device that connects up to 8 LocalTalk devices to ethernet.
This would be more cost effective than putting a single device on each EtherPrint, as the premium to go from 1 to 8 ports is relatively small ($200 to $230 or so).
The answers validated our current LocalTalk network, which uses Farallon StarControllers (though people preferred the Shiva Fastpath over the Farallon I/5, which we use), and also our decision to purchase Asante ethernet NICs/adapters for our older machines.
www.jagshouse.com /localtalk_network.html   (385 words)

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