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  AKMA’s Random Thoughts: Digital Genres Two
Logosyllabic writing seems to have been general; alphabetic writing seems to have originated from a single source.
Logosyllabic texts cite witness lists, which were authenticated with seals (for those who had them) or fingernail-imprints.
The ancestors of the autographically-signed deed were stamp-sealed Aramaic texts, mediating the Egyptian logosyllabic deeds and the Aramaic autographically-signed deed.
akma.disseminary.org /archives/000496.html   (1358 words)

  
 Bajoran - OF Database
The number of characters in the script implies that its either syllabic or logosyllabic.
Modern Bajoran text usually requires pairs of symbols to write words and concepts, although odd numbers of characters are also used in Bajoran texts (possibly as abbreviations).
Both ancient and modern Bajoran text has been called ideographic - each character or a pair of characters represents a single thought pictured, however as with Chinese (most chinese characters represent syllables and have a semantic component, they are very few true ideograms), this is probably a misconception.
database.obsidianfleet.net /Bajoran   (1053 words)

  
 Unaahil B'aak: The Temples of Palenque
Logosyllabic writing systems in Mesoamerica appear to have been innovated in the Middle to Late Preclassic periods (600 bce) by either the Zapotec, centered at the site of Monte Alban in Oaxaca, Mexico, or the writers of the Epi-Olmec script probably Mixe-Zoquean speakers (Justeson et al.
The key difference between the Mayan script and other logosyllabic Mesoamerican writing systems that allowed for its linguistically more precise decipherment was a large corpus of inscriptions and its continued use into the Colonial period.
His failed attempt had dire consequences for phonetism in general because it indicated to many researchers that either Landa’s alphabet was a sham or that the script itself was primarily symbolic or ideographic.
lodev.wesleyan.edu /palenque/glyphs   (1801 words)

  
 MESOAMERICAN WRITING SYSTEMS   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
It was originally thought that Maya writing was purely logographic because of the many hundreds of different glyphs.
After a long period of attempts to decipher the Maya glyphs, it was discovered that the system was logosyllabic and became increasingly phonetic over time.
Maya writing uses a syllabary made up of glyphs rather than a pure alphabet and is a mixed system.
www.angelfire.com /ca/humanorigins/writing.html   (3251 words)

  
 logosyllabic (via CobWeb/3.1 planetlab2.tamu.edu)   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
logosyllabic is one of the topics in focus at Global Oneness.
When Morley and his team first arrived in 1924 to commence their excavations, Chichen Itza was an abandoned and sprawling complex of several large ruined buildings and many smaller ones, most of which lay concealed under mounds of earth and vegetation.
Morley's publications include: 1915- An Introduction to the Study of Maya Hieroglyphs 1920- The Inscriptions of Copán 1938- The Inscriptions of Petén (5 vols.) 1946- The Ancient Maya (revised 3rd ed.
www.experiencefestival.com.cob-web.org:8888 /logosyllabic   (987 words)

  
 syllabary Information Center - printable cherokee syllabary
The Chinese, Cuneiform, and Mayan scripts are largely syllabic in nature, although based on logograms.
They are therefore sometimes referred to as logosyllabic.
Indian languages and Ethiopian languages have a type of alphabet called an abugida or alphasyllabary.
www.scipeeps.com /Sci-Linguistic_Topics_R_-_T/syllabary.html   (517 words)

  
 Mayan Script - Crystalinks   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
Recently, their descendants have started to learn the script once again from the scholars who have deciphered it.
- The Mayan script is logosyllabic combining about 550 logograms (which represent whole words) and 150 syllabograms (which represent syllables).
There were also about 100 glyphs representing place names and the names of gods.
www.crystalinks.com /mayanscript.html   (472 words)

  
 Biblical Archaeology Society Online Archive Browse
Chinese writing (from about 1500 B.C.), which is largely logographic and has tens of thousands of characters (an extremely inefficient system), never systematically incorporated the rebus principle, but it appears full-blown in Mesopotamian cuneiform, made up of wedges impressed in clay, and Egyptian hieroglyphics, which consists of stylized pictures.
These and other forms of ancient writings are called logosyllabic because the writing is made up of logograms (signs that stand for words but have no necessary sound attached) and syllabograms (signs that stand for syllables).
Logosyllabic writing nonetheless requires hundreds of signs to convey meaning within the context of any particular language.
www.basarchive.org /sample/bswbBrowse.asp?PubID=BSAO&Volume=1&Issue=1&GroupID=2   (4843 words)

  
 Gatorsports.com :: 100 years of Gator Football   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
With inscriptions in the Maya script dating from the latter part of the 1st millennium BCE, this logosyllabic writing system remained in use up to as late as the 16th-century Spanish conquest, in particular during the period of Mesoamerican chronology known as the Classic period (c.
The Maya writing system, known generally as Maya hieroglyphics, has however been confirmed as a fully-functioning writing system, in which it was possible to unambiguously express any statement of the spoken language.
The script is a type best classified as logosyllabic, whose symbols (glyphs, or more formally graphemes) include both logograms and syllables.
www.gatorsports.com /apps/pbcs.dll/section?template=wiki&text=Mayan_languages   (2384 words)

  
 The Mayan World - Fun Facts, Questions, Answers, Information
His death was and is thought to be one of the most dramatic moments in Classic Mayan history.
Sir Eric Thompson, according to Michael Coe in his outstanding book, "Breaking the Maya Code", led the world astray by insisting on a mythical and mystical interpretation of the glyphs and saying that they refered to something we would never be able to understand.
Knorosov, on the other hand, believed the text was logosyllabic and was widely ridiculed by Thompson and his followers until his theories were eventually proved.
www.funtrivia.com /en/subtopics/The-Mayan-World-131536.html   (782 words)

  
 LISTSERV 14.4
One could say that they are not really *expressions* but rather *spellings* (of expressions), because "4U" can be considered as a spelling variant of "for you".
From another point of view, these spellings are rebuses, representing "a small logosyllabic fringe component" of the writing system of a language.
From the point of view of writing, it is proposed to call such expressions "rebus wrintings".
listserv.linguistlist.org /cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0009C&L=linguist&F=&S=&P=7342   (262 words)

  
 930113; Evolution of Writing Systems; Academic Americak Encylcopedia; Prodigy, 930113
Unlike phonetic indicators, syllabic signs were meant to be read and interpreted as elements of the language being written.
In most logosyllabic (or word-syllabic) writing, words are still indicated with logograms, while the syllabic signs are reserved for grammatical elements.
A conflict arises in any logographic or logosyllabic writing system between economy--the number of signs required to write a given message--and explicitness--the number of signs required to avoid ambiguity of meaning.
www.welchco.com /02/14/01/60/93/01/1304.HTM   (2944 words)

  
 Indus Valley Script
The third ranges from logosyllabic to logographic, running upwards of hundreds of signs (like 500 signs in Hieroglyphic Luwian).
It appears that the maximum number of Indus script symbols is 400, although there are 200 basic signs (i.e.
This means that the Indus script is probably logosyllabic, in that it has both signs used for their meanings, and signs used for their phonetic values.
indoeuro.bizland.com /project/script/indus.html   (563 words)

  
 Table of Contents and Excerpt, Urton, Signs of the Inka Khipu
Some scholars insist that so-called true writing should be limited to systems based on phonograms, which are the various types and levels of graphemes that denote the sounds of a language.
Logosyllabic systems are based on combined logogram plus syllabogram signing units; these include cuneiform and Egyptian and Mayan hieroglyphic writing.
Other students of writing seek to permit a wider range of types of scripts and signing systems--including nonphonologically based ones--within the fold of writing systems (e.g., Boone 1994: 15-17).
www.utexas.edu /utpress/excerpts/exurtsig.html   (8380 words)

  
 Indus script - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Russian scholar Yuri V. Knorozov (or Knorosov), who has edited a multi-volumed corpus of the inscriptions, surmises that the symbols represent a logosyllabic script, with an underlying Dravidian language as the most likely linguistic substrate.
Knorozov is perhaps best known for his decisive contributions towards the decipherment of the Maya script, a pre-Columbian writing system of the Mesoamerican Maya civilization.
Knorozov's investigations were the first to conclusively demonstrate that the Maya script was logosyllabic in character, an interpretation now confirmed in the subsequent decades of Mayanist epigraphic research.
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Indus_script   (990 words)

  
 Language Aquisition By Iain   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
· To learn a logosyllabic or featural script writing system costs one skill point to advance it each degree (i.e.
· I would suggest that if your native language has a logosyllabic or featural script writing system then it should cost at least twice as many skill points to become literate in it as normal.
Here is an example, taken from my role-play world, of a set of languages and the relationship between them.
www.strolen.com /content.php?node=2343   (1902 words)

  
 Review of Aronoff & Rees-Miller, eds. (2001)
Daniels makes one of his main theoretical points on the first page of his essay: 'there can be no purely logographic script'.
The most ancient type of script is not logographic, but logosyllabic (or morphosyllabic), in which 'each character stands for a morpheme, and the characters can be used for the sound of the morpheme as well as for its meaning'.
Next comes the syllabary; then the abjad, in which each symbol stands for a consonant; then the alphabet; then the abugida, in which each symbol represents a consonant followed by a particular vowel; and finally the featural script, 'in which the shapes of the characters correlate with phonetic features of the segments they designate' (43-44).
dingo.sbs.arizona.edu /~langendoen/Review-Aronoff2001.htm   (5674 words)

  
 FORWARD
Myself, when one does not believe in the arguments of the phoneticists, one should at least discuss this viewpoint.
The proofs for the logosyllabic character of the Maya script (and other mesoamerican scripts) are so reliable and undoubted that [this omission] signifies Porter must simply be ignorant.
That he would send his book to germany, rests naturally on the internationally known readiness of German Professors and Publishers to publish books, that are full of unsupported assumptions, despite their deficiencies.
members.fortunecity.com /mayaglyphs1/books/kju-10/0001.html   (1411 words)

  
 artnet.com Magazine Features - treasures of a lost civilization
It traded overland and by boat, reaching many thousands of miles away.
That's mainly because its language remains indecipherable, its logosyllabic pictographic structure (similar to that of contemporary Dravidian in Southern India) defying all attempts at clarification.
The valley was discovered accidentally in 1851 by British adventurers who were exploring the Middle East.
www.artnet.com /magazine_pre2000/features/stern/stern3-19-98.asp   (917 words)

  
 Wikinfo | Bajoran
This gives approximately 200 symbols in the written language.
No translation for these symbols exists although the number of characters in the script implies that its either syllabic or logosyllabic.
Bajoran can be written both in vertical columns going from top to bottom, right to left or in horizontal lines going from left to right top to bottom like Chinese
www.wikinfo.org /wiki.php?title=Bajoran   (552 words)

  
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A ruler's death often initiated the construction of a new temple or an addition to an existing one for their interment.
The Maya had a fully developed written language which was a combination of phonetic symbols and logosyllabic signs, meaning syllabic signs played a significant role.
More significantly, the Maya had the only writing system that fully represented their spoken language in the Pre-Columbian New World.
www.yale.edu /ynhti/nationalcurriculum/units/2006/4/06.04.08.x.html   (10646 words)

  
 Complex scripts - Logographic, Sematographic, Morphophonetic   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-13)
In fact there is no theoretical upper limit to the number of symbols in some scripts, such as Chinese.
These scripts could be called logophonetic, morphophonemic, logographic or logosyllabic.
Complex scripts may include the following types of symbol:
www.omniglot.com /writing/logographic.htm   (292 words)

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