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	OMACL: Hesiod, the Homeric Hymns and Homerica: Homeric Fragments (Expedition of Amphiarus to the Cercopes)
		THE MARGITES (fragments) Fragment #1 -- Suidas, s.v.: Pigres.
		160: He refers to Margites, a man who, though well grown up, did not know whether it was his father or his mother who gave him birth, and would not lie with his wife, saying that he was afraid she might give a bad account of him to her mother.
		(3) Attributed to Homer by Zenobius, and by Bergk to the "Margites".
	omacl.org /Hesiod/homrfrag.html (762 words)

	Margites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		The Margites, a comic mock-epic of Ancient Greece, is about an idiot named "Margites" (Greek μάργος "raving, mad; lustful") who was so dense he didn't know which parent had given birth to him.
		It was commonly attributed to Homer, as by Aristotle: " His Margites indeed provides an analogy: as are the Iliad and Odyssey to our tragedies, so is the Margites to our comedies.
		It is written in mixed hexameter and iambic lines, an odd whim of Pigres, who also inserted a pentameter line after each hexameter of the Iliad as a curious literary game (Peck 1898).
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Margites (307 words)

	Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, page 949 (v. 2) (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		7), and was highly esteemed by Callimachus, and its hero Margites as early as the time of Demosthenes had become proverbial for his extraordinary stupidity.
		297.) Suidas does not mention the Margites among the works of Homer, but states that it was the production of the Carian Pigres, a brother of queen Artemisia, who was at the same time the author of the Batrachomyomachia.
		The time at which the Margites was written is uncertain, though it must undoubtedly have been at the time when epic poetry was most flourishing at Colophon, that is, about or before B.
	www.ancientlibrary.com /smith-bio/2057.html (903 words)

	homer - Article and Reference from OnPedia.com
		Homer (Greek Ὅμηρος Hómēros) was a legendary (or perhaps mythical) early Greek poet and rhapsode traditionally credited with authorship of the major Greek epics Iliad and Odyssey, the comic mini-epic Batrachomyomachia ("The Frog-Mouse War"), the corpus of Homeric Hymns, and various other lost or fragmentary works such as Margites.
		A few ancient authors credited him with the entire Epic Cycle, which included further poems on the Trojan War as well as the Theban poems about Oedipus and his sons.
		The decipherment of Linear B in the 1950s by Michael Ventris and others convinced scholars of a linguistic continuity between 13th century BC Mycenaean writings and the epic poems attributed to Homer.
	www.onpedia.com /encyclopedia/Homer (622 words)

	The Poetics of Aristotle - Aristotle - Free Online Library
		As, in the serious style, Homer is pre-eminent among poets, for he alone combined dramatic form with excellence of imitation, so he too first laid down the main lines of Comedy, by dramatising the ludicrous instead of writing personal satire.
		His Margites bears the same relation to Comedy that the Iliad and Odyssey do to Tragedy.
		But when Tragedy and Comedy came to light, the two classes of poets still followed their natural bent: the lampooners became writers of Comedy, and the Epic poets were succeeded by Tragedians, since the drama was a larger and higher form of art.
	aristotle.thefreelibrary.com /Poetics-of-Aristotle/1-4 (700 words)

	Margites * People, Places, & Things * Greek Mythology: From the Iliad to the Fall of the Last Tyrant
		Margites * People, Places, and Things * Greek Mythology: From the Iliad to the Fall of the Last Tyrant
		The Margites; one of the remains of the fragmentary poems and comments known as Homerica.
		This particular group of fragments is so small and obtuse that little can be gained as to the subject or the intent; the fragment is interesting simply because of its antiquity.
	www.messagenet.com /myths/ppt/Margites_1.html (289 words)

	Bryn Mawr Classical Review 2006.01.28
		Its major contribution is a new assessment of the place of the "Margites" in Aristotle's evolutionary scheme.
		In Aristotle's evolutionary scheme, according to Jacob, the "Margites" occupies the same position in relation to the iambikê idea, as do the Iliad and the Odyssey in relation to those epic poems (the Cypria, the Little Iliad etc.) that attempted to narrate long, variegated, "episodic" myths at the expense of internal cohesion.
		As such, the "Margites" would be a direct forerunner of the kind of comedy exemplified by Crates, as opposed to those comedians who still adhered to the "iambic form"; likewise, the Homeric epics would directly prefigure the best of Greek tragedy, as opposed to the "episodic" plays exemplified by Agathon (cf.
	ccat.sas.upenn.edu /bmcr/2006/2006-01-28.html (3273 words)

	Pigres of Halicarnassus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		He is spoken of by the Suda (s.v.
		279) believes that the Margites, though not composed by Pigres, suffered some alterations at his hands, and in that altered shape passed down to posterity.
		Some suppose that the iambic lines, which alternated with the hexameters in the Margites, were inserted by Pigres.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Pigres_of_Halicarnassus (205 words)

	rogueclassicism: Lost Works
		IN the fourth chapter of his On the Art of Poetry, Aristotle wrote: "Homer was the supreme poet in the serious style...
		The Margites, it is claimed, was Homer's first work.
		The name of the hero, Margites, derives from the Greek margos, meaning madman.
	www.atrium-media.com /rogueclassicism/Posts/00001935.html (564 words)

	Amazon.com: Margites: Books (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		as a 'barbarian from Pella' and Alexander as a mock-heroic 'Margites'.
		Basil90 teaches how some good use may be made of Margites, a sportful poem not now extant writ by Homer; and...
		Homer's pur- pose in writing his lost comic epic, the Margites, "the first Dunciad" and "the first Epic poem" (48).
	www.amazon.com /s?ie=UTF8&keywords=Margites&tag=httpexplaguid-20&index=books&link_code=qs&page=1 (830 words)

	MARGITES (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		Date "MARGITES" was first used in popular English literature: sometime before 1644.
		Margites The first dunce whose name has been transmitted to fame.
		Source: compiled by the editor from various references; see credits.
	www.websters-online-dictionary.org /Ma/Margites.html (356 words)

	OMACL: Hesiod, the Homeric Hymns and Homerica: The Contest of Homer and Hesiod
		The Chians, on the other hand, bring forward evidence to show that he was their countrymen, saying that there actually remain some of his descendants among them who are called Homeridae.
		The Colophonians even show the place where they declare that he began to compose when a schoolmaster, and say that his first work was the "Margites".
		The Pythia answered: `The Isle of Ios is your mother's country and it shall receive you dead; but beware of the riddle of the young children.' (1) Hearing this, it is said, he hesitated to go to Ios, and remained in the region where he was.
	omacl.org /Hesiod/homrhes.html (1633 words)

	Homer
		He made a law: any singer or bard who came to Athens had to recite all they knew of Homer for the Athenian scribes, who recorded each version and collated them into what we now call the Iliad and Odyssey.
		Many other epic works were attributed to Homer, including the comic mock-epic Margites.
		For centuries, scholars have debated whether an individual named "Homer" existed.
	www.ebroadcast.com.au /lookup/encyclopedia/ho/Homer.html (506 words)

	3345.Aristotle.Janko.html
		his Margites, etc. In these the iambic verse-forin arrived too, as is appropriate.
		Thus some of the ancients became composers of heroic poems, others of lampoons, just as Homer was the greatest composer of serious poetry (not that he alone composed well, but because he alone composed dramatic representations), so too he was first to indicate the form of comedy, by dramatising not an invective but the laughable.
		For his Margites stands in the same relation to comedies as do the Iliad and Odyssey to tragedies.
	www.hfac.uh.edu /mcl/classics/Secure/3345.Aristotle.Janko.html (2678 words)

	Aristotle Poetics Examples
		In the case of epics, his task was easier because only one author's work were widely known to him, those of Homer.
		According to Aristotle, the lost Homeric mock battle narrative, Margites, is to comic drama as the Iliad and the Odyssey are to tragedy.
		Note that this suggests genres originate in pairs, each balancing qualities the other excells in with qualities it lacks and its partner has in abundance.
	faculty.goucher.edu /eng211/aristotle_poetics_examples.htm (1510 words)

	Bookreporter.com - FREDDY AND FREDERICKA by Mark Helprin
		While it's true that less is sometimes more, that principle apparently doesn't apply to the books of Mark Helprin, nor would his readers wish for less.
		Some scholars believe Homer himself may have written a comic epic or a mock epic called the "Margites," of which only a few fragments survived him.
		Helprin's comic epic differs from the classic model only in its use of comedy, otherwise addressing important and serious matters, with the action centering on a courageous hero who in some way is above the common man --- like Jason or Odysseus or, in this case, Freddy.
	www.bookreporter.com /reviews2/1594200548.asp (477 words)

	Famous Myths
		Like Ovid it was written in dactyllic hexameter, and also like Ovid' s and the Metamorphoses, it is unsure whether Homer is the author of all the stories passed down through the Iliad and Odyssey, the two most famous works traditionally associated with him.
		Others include The Homeric Hymns, the Margites, and the Epic Cycle of poems about Thebes (wikipedia, "Greek Mythology").
		Homer's Iliad depicts the siege of Illium, a city in Troy, in what is commonly referred to as the Trojan War.
	www.personal.psu.edu /sjt5000/myths.htm (1395 words)

	Bryn Mawr Classical Review 2003.07.36
		The original edition contained the poems and fragments of Hesiod, the Homeric Hymns, the Homeric Epigrams, remains of the Epic Cycle, the Contest of Homer and Hesiod, and other Homerica.
		According to West's preface, the new Loeb versions will distribute and expand upon this material across three volumes, with this particular volume containing 1) the Homeric Hymns, 2) Homeric Apocrypha (Margites, Cercopes, Epikichlides, The Battle of the Weasel and the Mice, and The Battle of Frogs and Mice), and 3) ten ancient Lives of Homer.
		The three sections of the work are presented quite separately with distinct introductions, and even a separate index for the Lives, and it therefore seems best to discuss each portion of the book according to its own individual merits.
	ccat.sas.upenn.edu /bmcr/2003/2003-07-36.html (1021 words)

	Highbeam Encyclopedia - Search Results for margites (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		Find newspaper and magazine articles plus images and maps related to "margites" at HighBeam.
		Cover Story: The missing masterpieces; What links Homer's Margites, Shakespeare's Love's Labour's Won and Sylvia Plath's Double Exposure?
		They were all written, and then, for one reason or another, irrevocably lost.
	www.encyclopedia.com /searchpool.asp?target=Margites (236 words)

	A Bibliophile's Worst Nightmare - April 26, 2006 - The New York Sun
		Yet there are indications that at one time both did exist.
		Aristotle praises "Margites" in the fourth chapter of his "Poetics" as being the foundation for all Greek comic writing.
		There are indications that Shakespeare's drama "Love's Labour's Won" was actually printed in an edition of a 1,000 copies.
	www.nysun.com /article/31650 (651 words)

	Margites - Everything on Margites (information, latest news, articles,...)
		Margites - Everything on Margites (information, latest news, articles,...)
		The Margites, a comic mock-epic of Ancient Greece,
		is about an idiot named "Margites" (Greek μάργος "raving, mad; lustful") who was so dense he didn't know which parent had given birth to him.
	www.spiritus-temporis.com /margites (330 words)

	Aristotle: Poetics (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		High-minded persons imitated noble deeds and heroes, while "ignoble" or "trivial" persons chose to compose parodies lampooning the foolish behavior of their fellow humans.
		Aristotle gives the works of Homer credit for establishing the main lines of both the "serious" and the "low" forms of poetry, attributing to Homer a lost epic called Margites which depicts comic episodes in the life of Margites, a buffoon.
		Continuing his history of the development of tragedy and comedy, Aristotle argues that both genres began as improvisations based on earlier forms, tragedy slowly emerging from dithyrambic poetry and comedy developing out of the phallic songs performed at festivals of Dionysus.
	maven.english.hawaii.edu /criticalink/aristotle/gloss/gloss4.html (434 words)

	Schulers Books (Hypatia - 38/97)
		Why must not the Margites, like everything else, have been a sensation of my own?
		Hypatia used to say Homer's poetry was a part of her....
		but I have proved that the Margites is a part of me....
	www.schulers.com /books/ch/h/Hypatia/Hypatia38.htm (1361 words)

	Aristotle on the art of poetry eBook
		We know of no such poem by any of the pre-Homeric poets, though there were probably many such writers among them; instances, however, may be found from Homer downwards, e.g.
		his Margites, and the similar poems of others.
		In this poetry of invective its natural fitness brought an iambic metre into use; hence our present term ‘iambic’, because it was the metre of their ‘iambs’ or invectives against one another.
	www.bookrags.com /ebooks/6763/11.html (454 words)

	M to Medea 2 * People, Places, & Things * Greek Mythology: From the Iliad to the Fall of the Last Tyrant
		For Homerica and translations of the Epic Cycle, I recommend the Loeb Classical Library volume 57, ISBN 0674990633; you can sometimes find this book at the library or you can order it from the Book Shop on this site which is linked to Amazon.com.
		See Margites by itself with citation tips (best for bookmarking).
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	www.messagenet.com /myths/ppt/_m1001.html (2945 words)

	Homer
		whom the ancients claim to have written the epic poems the Illiad and Odyssey, as well as the lesser known Margites and Batrachomyomachia.
		The ancient sources were not even sure about when he lived.
		This page was last updated on July 21, 2004.
	dante.udallas.edu /hutchison/Sources/homer.htm (102 words)

	Barth Intro (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		For all its wildest flights of fancy and raucous humor, ancient comedy never loses its classical preoccupation with form.
		In fact, the reason we know so little about the story-line of the lost comic epic Margites is that most of the ancient scholarly commentators who cite it are concerned less with its matter than its meter.
		The same preoccupation with form you will note in Barth.
	wings.buffalo.edu /academic/department/AandL/classics/epicpage/menintro.html (267 words)

	Harvard University Press: Homeric Hymns. Homeric Apocrypha. Lives of Homer by Martin L. West
		Among the longest are the hymn To Demeter, which tells the foundational story of the Eleusinian Mysteries; and To Hermes, distinctive in being amusing.
		The comic poems gathered as Homeric Apocrypha include Margites, the Battle of Frogs and Mice, and, for the first time in English, a fragment of a perhaps earlier poem of the same type called Battle of the Weasel and the Mice.
		The edition of Lives of Homer contains The Contest of Homer and Hesiod and nine other biographical accounts, translated into English for the first time.
	www.hup.harvard.edu /catalog/L496.html (219 words)

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