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		So, therefore, Mary the wife of Clopas may NOT be a relative at all NOR is she necessarily the same woman as “Mary the mother of James and Joseph/Jose” in the Synoptics.
		This mysterious “Mary” appears again; this time called “Mary the wife of Clopas.” If this passage is speaking about three women, rather than four (as it almost certainly is), the comma after “his mother’s sister” may be identifying Clopas’ wife as the sister (or ‘tribal-relative’) of Jesus’ mother.
		It is also quite possible that, as John’s gospel so often does, this reference to Mary as “wife of Clopas” is a conscious intention to clear up any questions about the “mother of James and Joseph (Jose)” in the Synoptics -- that is, to clearly distinguish her from Jesus’ mother.
	www.bringyou.to /apologetics/a27.htm

	Ya'akov Ha Tsedek and the Destruction of the Jerusalem Temple [Free Republic]
		But at this stage I do not wish to argue for or against the supposition that Mary the wife of Clopas and Mary the mother of James and Joses were different women, provided it is clearly understood that Mary the mother of James and Joses was not the same person as the Lord's mother.
		The only conclusion is that the Mary who is described as the mother of James the less was the wife of Alphaeus and sister of Mary the Lord's mother, the one who is called by John the Evangelist "Mary of Clopas," whether after her father, or kindred, or for some other reason.
		Let me point out then what John says,[1] "But there were standing by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene." No one doubts that there were two apostles called by the name James, James the son of Zebedee, and James the son of Alphaeus.
	www.freerepublic.com /forum/a394d3ff9758a.htm

	Rejection of Pascal's Wager: James, The Brother of Jesus
		Thus Mary of Clopas was the mother of James, brother of the Lord.
		Now Mary of Clopas given in John's gospel is to be identified with Mary, the mother of James the Less and Joses given in Mark's.
		Another necessary supposition is the identity of "Mary of Clopas" and "Mary the mother of James the Less and Joses".
	www.geocities.com /paulntobin/jamesbrother.html

	Cleophas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		The Roman Catholic Church recognizes a Saint Mary of Cleophas or Clopas; thus the question of whether or not this Mary, mother of a James, is a phantom duplication of Mary the mother of James the brother of Jesus, may not be asked by good Catholics.
		This view is based on the identification of Mary, the mother of James etc. (Mark, xv, 40) with Mary, the wife of Clopas, and the consequent identity of Alphaeus, father of James (Mark, iii, 18), with Clopas.
		"Clopas" is mentioned in Gospel of John xix, 25, where a Mary present at the Crucifixion is called Maria he tou Klopa.
	www.wikipedia.org /wiki/Clopas

	The Road to Emmaus
		Elsewhere, a woman named Mary (often called "the other Mary" to distinguish her from Mary the mother of Jesus and Mary Magdalene) is named as the wife of Clopas (John 19:25).
		So the most likely companion for Clopas on the Road to Emmaus would be his wife Mary, who had been a witness to the Crucifixion and to the empty tomb (Mark 16:1).
		Still elsewhere, this Mary is identified as the mother of the Apostle James the Less and Joses (Mark 15:40).
	www.worcesterdiocese.org /pastoral/icon-bkgrd.htm

	Burial box does nothing to resolve Christian debate over Joseph's children
		Mary, wife of Clopas, might be a relative of the Virgin Mary and mother of James the early church leader, he argued.
		He noted that Matthew 27:56 mentions a "Mary, the mother of James and Joseph" at the crucifixion, and suggests she may be the same "Mary, wife of Clopas" that John 19:25 says was at the foot of the cross with Mary, the mother of Jesus, and Mary Magdalene.
		The explanation that these were stepsiblings from Joseph's first marriage began with accounts of Jesus' life that the church did not judge authoritative enough to be canonized as scripture.
	www.post-gazette.com /World/20021023james1023p2.asp

	Marys' Children?
		John's Gospel has a similar list of women: "...standing by the Cross of Jesus were His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene." [John 19:25; RSV] According to John, Mary the mother of Jesus was present at the Cross, but John also records another Mary other than Mary Magdalene.
		Israel vs. Jacob, Simon vs. Peter, Paul vs. Saul...), or Clopas was not the name of her husband but her father, birthplace or whatever.
		Perhaps the other Mary was married twice, or Alphaeus was also called Clopas (not uncommon in the Bible, e.g.
	users.binary.net /polycarp/MarysKids.html

	brothers.txt
		James and Joseph, or Joses, are, as we have seen, the sons of Alpheus, or Clopas, and of Mary, the sister of Mary the Mother of Jesus, and all agree that if these are not brothers of the Saviour, the others are not.
		As married women are not distinguished by the addition of their father's name, Mary of Clopas must be the wife of Clopas, and not his daughter, as has been maintained.
		Mary of Clopas is indeed called the "sister" of the Blessed Virgin, (John, xix, 25), but it is uncertain whether "sister" here means a true sister or a sister-in-law.
	geneva.rutgers.edu /src/others/brothers.txt

	John 19:25
		Most translations say, "Mary wife of Clopas," but there's no real way of knowing whether it means wife of or daughter of or sister of, for that matter.
		In a recent conversation with a friend, I said: John 19:25 is translated in the NAB as, "Standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary of Magdala.
		What I'm arguing here is the author of the Gospel refers to the mother of Jesus as "Mary of Clopas" in anticipation of Jesus naming Clopas Mary's son.
	www.ibiblio.org /bgreek/archives/greek-1/msg00017.html

	bible.org: ISBE
		There is a difference of opinion as to whether "Mary of Clopas" should be understood to be the wife of Clopas or the daughter of Clopas, but the former is more probable.
		That would make James, the son of Mary of Mt 27:56, the son of Mary of Clopas.
		We know from Mt 27:56 and Mk 15:40 that there was a James who was the son of Mary, and that this Mary belonged to that little group of women that was near Jesus it the time of the crucifixion.
	www.bible.org /isbe.asp?id=421

	BIO: Philip and James
		Conclusion: James the son of Clopas was perhaps the nephew of either Mary or Joseph, and so would have been known as the first cousin of Jesus.
		John (19:25) lists the women standing by the cross of Jesus as "his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene." If this list mentions only three women, then Mary the wife of Clopas is presumably a sister-in-law to the Virgin Mary.
		Besides, we note that Matthew and Mark are speaking of women who stood at a distance, while the Virgin was close enough to hear her Son speak.
	www.hillsdale.edu /Personal/Westblade/REL/Biography/05/01a.html

	San Damiano Crucifix Reflections Archives
		The Mary's of Clopas are those who pray for others, who bring meals on wheels, who attend funerals and visit nursing homes, who send cards to the sick and who bring muffins to the new neighbors.
		For many of us, Mary of Clopas is the saint whom we might best emulate.
		John tells us in his Gospel "Near the cross of Jesus there stood His Mother, his Mother's sister Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene" (John 19:25) as well as St. John the Evangelist.
	www.penitents.org /SanDamArchives.html

	Les peintures murales de nos églises, menu général
		The characters are the same: Joseph, the mother of Christ and her sister, the woman of Clopas and Mary Magdalene.
		The same characters are found in both: Joseph, the mother of Christ and her sister, the woman of Clopas and Mary Magdalene.
		lose to the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother's sister: Mary, the woman of Clopas and Mary Magdalene.
	www.impens.com /simple/P26CUK.html

	Brothers and Sisters of Jesus
		It is probable that Mary, the wife of Clopas, was a cousin, perhaps a first cousin of Jesus's mother.
		Mary (the wife of Clopas), the mother of James (the younger), Joseph (Joses), and Salome.
		John 19:25 Standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary of Magdala.
	www.trosch.org /the/brothers.html

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		The question remains, however, whether the sister of Mary, the mother of Jesus, is the same as Mary the wife of Clopas, or is it a fourth woman at the cross who is the mother of James and John, the sons of Zebedee?
		A cross reference between the above helps us to see that Mary Magdalen seems not to have had any children, while Mary the wife of Clopas was mother to James the younger and Joseph.
		It remains possible that they could be one in the same if Clopas or Zebedee had died and the wife had remarried the other.
	www.thecitizennews.com /main/archive-010513/fp-05.html

	Catholic, Christian, Cogent
		Mary the wife of Clopas is the "sister" of Mary the mother of Jesus, which makes the "brothers" actually Jesus' cousins (or possibly more distant relatives).
		James, Joseph/Joses, Simon and Judas/Jude are not sons of the Virgin Mary but of Clopas and his wife Mary/Maria.
		This would mean that James the Apostle, son of Alphaeus/Clopas is the James talked about in Matthew 13:55, Mark 6:3, and Jude 1.
	homepages.paradise.net.nz /mischedj/ct_brothers.html

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		Clopas came from Hebrew where a soft p is pronounced as ph, which became f in Spanish.
		The variation in the spelling of Clopas was due to confusion with a man by the name of Cleopas ( Luke 24:18).
		Mary Clopas was married to Clopas, about whom nothing is known in scripture.
	www.biblenews1.com /history2/20021025.htm

	Holy_Family.wps.htm
		Clopas, of his wife, "the other" Mary [not “The Virgin”], were the parents of at least four sons and five daughters.
		For scriptural precedent for an “in-law” spoken of as the full-relative, see John 19:25 where Mary, the wife of Clopas, the brother of Joseph, is called “sister” of “The Virgin” Mary when she was actually her “sister-in-law”.
		Joseph’s younger brother Clopas (Cleophas), whose name is a contraction of the Greek name Kleopatros [the masculine form of the feminine Cleopatra], is mentioned in the Bible and maybe identified with Alphaeus (Mt 10:3; Mk 3:18; Lk 6:15), the Syriac spelling of his name.
	www.angelfire.com /ego/et_deo/Holy_Family.wps.htm

	Friends of the Nazarene - Nazarene Commentary - James - INTRODUCTION TO THE LETTER OF JAMES
		In answer to this theory it may be said that (1.) it is improbable that the wife of Clopas was sister to Mary, a fact which would require two sisters to be of the same name.
		(2.) That Mary, the wife of Clopas [John 19:25] was sister of Mary, the mother of Jesus.
		The sister was no doubt Salome, the mother of John, named as one of the four women in the other gospels, and whom John omits to name from the same motives which prevented him from ever naming himself.
	www.nazarene-friends.org /nazcomm/59/000.htm

	CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: St. James the Less
		Probably the son of Cleophas or Clopas (John 19:25) where "Maria Cleophæ" is generally translated "Mary the wife of Cleophas", as married women are commonly distinguished by the addition of their husband's name.
		This identification requires the identity of Mary, the mother of James (Matthew 27:56; Mark 15:40), with Mary the wife of Cleophas (John 19:25), and, consequently, the identity of Alpheus (2) and Clopas (4).
		The James (5) of Jude 1:1 must certainly be identified with James (3), the brother of the Lord and the Bishop of Jerusalem.
	www.newadvent.org /cathen/08280a.htm

	The Brethren of the Lord by J.B. Lightfoot
		On the other hand, if, admitting the second identification and supplying the ellipsis in ‘Mary of Clopas’ by ‘wife,’* we combine with it the statement of Hegesippus that Clopas** the father of Symeon was brother of Joseph, we get three cousins, James, Joses, and Symeon, on their fathers’ side.
		In the course of his argument he confesses plainly that he does not know why Mary is called Clopae, (or Cleophae, as he writes it): it may be, he suggests, after her father or from her family surname ('gentilitate familiae') or for some other reason.
		The last-mentioned Mary is to be identified with the wife of Alphaeus and mother of James.
	philologos.org /__eb-jbl/brethren.htm

	Was St. Joseph Previously Married?
		Clopas is recorded as Joseph's brother; Mary of Clopas the wife of Clopas.
		At the foot of the cross, it is said Mary of Clopas was there.
		Accordingly, James and Jude (two of the "brethren") are sons of Mary, wife of Clopas.
	www.ourladyswarriors.org /articles/josmarried.htm

	Are there people TODAY related to Jesus Christ? What is Jesus' family tree? - at BibleStudy.org
		Mary, mother of James and Joses, is considered to have been the wife of Clopas ( John 19:25).
		If true, then John and Jesus were first cousins since John's mother, named Mary who was the wife of Clopas, was also the sister of Mary, the mother of Jesus.
		27:56 with Mark 15:40) elder brother of the Apostle John (therefore cousin of Jesus) [this identifies Zebedee and Clopas as being the same individual].
	www.biblestudy.org /question/jesustre.html

	The Virgin Mariam and the Family of Jesus Christ (No. 232)
		John 19:25 states clearly that Mary (Maria) the wife of Clopas was the sister of Mary (Mariam) mother of Messiah.
		Thus, we have either two brothers marrying two sisters or the record by Hegesippus is misconstrued to show that Clopas was the brother of Joseph.
		Christ’s uncle Clopas was also married to Maria, mother of James the Less and Joses.
	www.logon.org /english/s/p232.html

	SALOME
		Anastasius tells us that Mary, the sister of Jesus, married Clopas, her uncle (an accepted custom in ancient Israel) which clarifies the confusion of John 19:25, which identifies her as Mary's sister (sister-in-law).
		Simeon, however, was the son of Clopas, the younger brother of Joseph who assumed the levirate position, as I said, after Joseph's death.
		Clopas became the head of Joseph's household after his death.
	grailchurch.org /salome.htm

	Glossary
		Mary the wife of Clopas may thus be recognized as the wife of Alphaeus, and it is possible to suppose that Alphaeus and Clopas are the same person.
		Mary the wife of Clopas must then be identified as the sister of Jesus' mother.
		Efforts to connect Clopas, and therefore Alphaeus and his sons, with the family of Jesus, are based on the inference that only three women are named in John 19:25 (cf.
	www.bibletexts.com /glossary/alphaeus.htm

	The Brick Testament
		Jn Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary of Magdala, and the disciple whom he loved.
	www.thebricktestament.com /the_gospels/the_crucifixion/jn19_25.html

	apolo 96
		Clopas [KLOE puhs]- the husband of Mary, one of the women who was present at the crucifixion of Jesus (John 19:25; Cleophas, KJV).
		Clopas, Husband of Mary, one of the women who stood at the foot of the cross of Jesus (Jn.
		Clopas of the RSV, Cleophas of the AV is apparently to be identified with Alphaeus apparently, the two nanes being veriant forms of the same Aramaic original ( The New Westminster Dictionary of the Bible, copryright 1965)
	www.catholicapologetics.net /apolo_96.htm

	Clergy Journal, The: Surveying the cross: In the Cross of Christ I Glory (part 3 of 5)
		Clephane, along with Jesus' mother, his aunt, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene, claimed a space beneath the cross - for that is where Clephane would take her stand.
		From a young age Elizabeth Clephane had very delicate health but to the limit of her strength she and her sister served the poor and the sick of her town and gave to charity all they did not need.
		We continue with this third sermon in the series of five called "Surveying the Cross." In each sermon we are looking at the cross of Christ from the perspective of a well-known hymn.
	www.findarticles.com /p/articles/mi_qa3853/is_200105/ai_n8936195

	Mary Ever-Virgin - The Perpetual Virginity of Mary
		The second James is the son of Mary, the wife of Cleophas (a man whose name is also rendered as Clopas and Alphaeus).
		It becomes very clear that James and Joseph are the sons of Mary wife of Clopas.
		In the parallel text Mark 15:40 We are given the same list: Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James the younger and Joses (rendered in some MS's as James the less), and Salome, identified as the wife of Zebedee, the sister of Mary.
	users2.ev1.net /~scott.rogge/catholic/virgin.html

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