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  The Internet Classics Archive | Meno by Plato
O Meno, there was a time when the Thessalians were famous among the other Hellenes only for their riches and their riding; but now, if I am not mistaken, they are equally famous for their wisdom, especially at Larisa, which is the native city of your friend Aristippus.
Yes, Meno; and again we are in the same case: in searching after one virtue we have found many, though not in the same way as before; but we have been unable to find the common virtue which runs through them all.
I am afraid, Meno, that you and I are not good for much, and that Gorgias has been as poor an educator of you as Prodicus has been of me. Certainly we shall have to look to ourselves, and try to find some one who will help in some way or other to improve us.
classics.mit.edu /Plato/meno.html   (9035 words)

  
 Plato: Forms
In the middle and late dialogues, Plato employed the conversational structure as a way of presenting dialectic, a pattern of argumentation that examines each issue from several sides, exploring the interplay of alternative ideas while subjecting all of them to evaluation by reason.
Plato later came to disagree with his teacher on this point, arguing that genuine knowledge of virtue is attainable through application of appropriate educational methods.
Plato believed that the same point could be made with regard to many other abstract concepts: even though we perceive only their imperfect instances, we have genuine knowledge of truth, goodness, and beauty no less than of equality.
www.philosophypages.com /hy/2f.htm   (2276 words)

  
 Plato and Mathematics
Plato believed at first that Mathematics would be the key to Thought, but in the Meno he abandons hope in the context of a few sentences, which we have constantly misread.
B C. I take it that Plato was intrigued by this new mode of thinking, used it extensively in the early dialogs and gradually displaced it, especially after the Meno, in favor of more substantial modes of argumentation.
So if Plato now cites this as an example of how he is going to proceed in the Meno, and perhaps later, in the search after supreme truth, by a method of method approximations, this is a very important element of method and purpose, one which must be taken with great seriousness and respect.
community.middlebury.edu /~harris/Philosophy/Plato.html   (3126 words)

  
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In Meno, for example, "desiring fine (good) things and having the power to acquire them." The first clause is too broad, he argues, for it characterises vicious as well as virtuous people - everyone desires what is perceived as good - the second also since it lets in the unjust acquisition of goods.
Plato's way out is that learning is not coming to know anew, but recollection of what has been previously known.
Plato in fact thinks that the Forms (conceptual truths about them: mathematics, geometry, definitions) are the only objects of knowledge; sensible objects can only be objects of opinion (see Republic).
www.mala.bc.ca /~black/plato1.txt   (1204 words)

  
 Plato: The Meno   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
When Meno proposes as his definition a multitude of virtuous actions, Socrates complains that such a list is no use at arriving at a single, clear meaning for the key term.
Plato's Socrates is inviting us to participate in a quest, not to repose in the cozy certitude of a received answer.
Plato knew that to catch people's attention about the issues that mattered to him, it was not enough to write lectures or sermons: he had to provide a hero, someone to take the place of the traditional warrior heroes of Greek culture.
www.mala.bc.ca /~johnstoi/introser/meno.htm   (6896 words)

  
 Plato's Republic
Plato thinks that this is the energy that drives the soul and may be used to reason to keep desire in line.
Plato's answer to that is to identify the nature of the "tyrannical personality": since the tyrant is subject to completely unlimited desire, he can never be satisfied with anything he has.
Plato's comment about this reveals an important principle of his thought: This was a person who had lived a good life and had just returned from a reward for it in heaven.
www.friesian.com /plato.htm   (6934 words)

  
 Plato, Meno ToC: The Online Library of Liberty   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
Meno is very ready to admit that justice is virtue: ‘Would you say virtue or a virtue, for there are other 74virtues, such as courage, temperance, and the like; just as round is a figure, and fl and white are colours, and yet there are other figures and other colours.
The Meno (81 ff.) goes back to a former state of existence, in which men did and suffered good and evil, and received the reward or punishment of them until their sin was purged away and they were allowed to return to earth.
  Meno, Gorgias, and Empedocles are all agreed that colour is an effluence of existence, proportioned to certain passages.
oll.libertyfund.org /Home3/HTML.php?recordID=0403   (14706 words)

  
 Meno, by Plato (introduction)
Meno is very ready to admit that justice is virtue: ‘Would you say virtue or a virtue, for there are other virtues, such as courage, temperance, and the like; just as round is a figure, and fl and white are colours, and yet there are other figures and other colours.
We cannot argue that Plato was more likely to have written, as he has done, of Meno before than after his miserable death; for we have already seen, in the examples of Charmides and Critias, that the characters in Plato are very far from resembling the same characters in history.
The Meno goes back to a former state of existence, in which men did and suffered good and evil, and received the reward or punishment of them until their sin was purged away and they were allowed to return to earth.
etext.library.adelaide.edu.au /p/plato/p71mo/introduction.html   (7917 words)

  
 Plato - Meno   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
Plato was an Athenian Greek of aristocratic family, active as a philosopher in the first half of the fourth century BC.
Plato is no longer a Socratic, not even a critical and original Socratic: he has turned Socrates into a Platonist.
In the second Socrates is represented as setting Meno’s untutored slave boy a geometrical problem (to determine the length of the side of a square twice the size of a given square) and scrutinizing his answers by the usual elenctic method.
pressurecooker.phil.cmu.edu /80-250/guides/Plato-Meno-1.html   (954 words)

  
 Plato’s Theory of Forms
In the dialogue Meno, Plato agrees that enquiry is impossible, because, unless we already knew something, we would not recognize, the subject about which we were inquiring.
Whilst the details of the mechanics are scanty, Plato's notion that the power to abstract and perceive the commonalties in apparent opposites is our "step and point of departure" to true knowledge, is a theme we can discern in all the great systems of human thought.
The theory still stands as a beacon after two and a half thousand years, attesting to the vast sweep of mind Plato was able to attain, using the simple means he found in himself and the strength he found by the acknowledgement of his own weakness.
www.ccs.neu.edu /course/com3118/Plato.html   (2706 words)

  
 Meno - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Meno suggests that there are many different types of virtues, for example, some are appropriate for men, some for women, some for slaves, others for children.
Meno adds that the good things must be obtained in the right way, so being wealthy would be a virtue if the wealth were obtained in a just way.
A third and rather obvious possible teacher of virtue is Socrates himself, and it is clear that Plato believes that his instructor has the ability to impart wisdom and virtue upon his students as he has done with Plato.
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Meno   (681 words)

  
 Meno
Meno, to begin: some choices for the origin of V: teaching, or telling through words (requires a teacher and a learner); practice (you do it yourself); nature (it's already in you, natural, God-given); or a combination or something else.
Three parts of Meno: with Meno, discussion of virtue; with the slave, inquiry-knowing; with Anytus, the city and philosophy (this structure is similar Platonic dialogues in general)
Meno's first definition of virtue (71e): he names the specific virtues that go with the categories, naming outward activities; he neglects to talk about motive.
home.uchicago.edu /~ahkissel/plato/meno.html   (778 words)

  
 Notes on Plato's dialog Meno
Good versions of the Meno are available free online: check out here, or here, or here, and other sites also (use a search engine such as Google).
Meno, none of the early questions — whether virtue is knowledge, whether virtue can be taught, the nature of virtue itself — are answered.
Plato doesn’t point this out explicitly, but it’s clear we’ve just seen a perfect example, in Anytus, of the shortcomings of unjustified true belief.
instruct.westvalley.edu /lafave/Meno.htm   (672 words)

  
 Sketch of Plato's Theory of Knowledge   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
Plato (circa 427-347 B.C.E.) was the first Western philosopher to consider in some detail the nature of knowledge and the way it is obtained.
In his dialogue Meno, Plato points out that there is no practical difference between knowledge and correct opinion.
Also of little contemporary interest is Plato's description in the Meno and Phaedo of how we obtain knowledge through "recollection" of what was known before we were born.
hume.ucdavis.edu /phi102/plato.htm   (254 words)

  
 Plato's Ion & Meno
A similar discussion between Socrates and Meno probes the subject of ethics.
Socrates and Meno are unable to identify teachers of ethics, and we are left wondering how such knowledge could be acquired.
The text is presented in an updated version of the Jowett translation, which helps to bring the work to life for students and non-academic audiences.
www.pdcnet.org /agorapim.html   (281 words)

  
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But if not by knowledge, the only alternative which remains is that statesmen must have guided states by right opinion, which is in politics what divination is in religion; for diviners and also prophets say many things truly, but they know not what they say.
And if there be such an one, he may be said to be among the living what Homer says that Tiresias was among the dead, "he alone has understanding; but the rest are flitting shades"; and he and his virtue in like manner will be a reality among shadows.
Then, Meno, the conclusion is that virtue comes to the virtuous by the gift of God.
www.fordham.edu /halsall/ancient/plato-meno.txt   (9569 words)

  
 Plato, The MENO
Meno: To manage the affairs of one's city so as to benefit one's
Meno: areté is 'the ability to rule over men'.
Meno has defined virtue in terms of only one of its parts–
www.csun.edu /~hcfll004/meno-outline.html   (451 words)

  
 Excerpt from Meno: Plato   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
The following extract from Plato's Meno discusses not only the value of learning but also Plato's belief that learning is actually remembering.
This philosophy of education is based on the belief that the soul is immortal and that a person has innate knowledge which they have only forgotten in this life.
[12] Socrates: I told you, Meno, just now that you were a rogue, and now you ask whether I can teach you, when I am saying that there is no teaching, but only recollection; and thus you imagine that you will involve me in a contradiction.
www.faithnet.org.uk /Philosophy/Plato/menotext.htm   (2339 words)

  
 Plato Meno
The dramatic form of a dialogue suggests that the character, circumstances, and actions of its participants, along with their speeches, are to be taken into account by the reader.
Many readers, once it is understood who is talking and perhaps where and when, should be able to go through this dialogue without consulting any notes, except perhaps for the geometrical illustrations provided in the note for Speech 356 (86E-87B) and Appendix B of this volume.
The time of the dialogue seems to be not long before Meno leaves Greece for an ill-fated military expedition in Persia.
www.pullins.com /Books/51714PlatoMeno.htm   (892 words)

  
 Halving a square
In Plato's dialog Meno, Socrates leads a slave boy to a discovery that the area of the large square is twice the area of the smaller one.
Depending on your interpretation of the diagram, the only thing that may be needed is counting the number of equal right triangles.
Following is an excerpt from the Plato's dialog Meno.
www.cut-the-knot.org /proofs/half_sq.shtml   (640 words)

  
 Protagoras and Meno - Plato - Penguin UK
Exploring the question of what exactly makes good people good, Protagoras and Meno are two of the most enjoyable and accessible of all of Plato's dialogues.
Widely regarded as his finest dramatic work, the Protagoras, set during the golden age of Pericles, pits a youthful Socrates against the revered sophist Protagoras, whose brilliance and humanity make him one the most interesting and likeable of Socrates' philosophical opponents, and turns their encounter into a genuine and lively battle of minds.
The Meno sees an older but ever ironic Socrates humbling a proud young aristocrat as they search for a clear understanding of what it is to be a good man, and setting out the startling idea that all human learning may be the recovery of knowledge already possessed by our immortal souls.
www.penguin.co.uk /nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9780140449037,00.html   (166 words)

  
 Amazon.ca: Plato's Meno in Focus: Books: Jane M. Day   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
Plato's Meno in Focus brings together in one volume an English translation of the text, a selection of illuminating articles on themes in the dialogue published between 1965 and 1985 and an introduction which sets the Meno in its historical context and opens up the key philosophical issues discussed in the various articles.
Many of the articles have until now been available only in the most highly specialized libraries.
The Meno provides an excellent introduction both to Plato and to philosophy in general.
www.amazon.ca /Platos-Meno-Focus-Day/dp/0415002974   (250 words)

  
 PLATO - MENO - 380 BC - FULL TEXT - IN FOUR WEBPAGE PARTS - PART ONE - Translated by Benjamin Jowett (1817-1893)
PLATO - MENO - 380 BC - FULL TEXT - IN FOUR WEBPAGE PARTS - PART ONE - Translated by Benjamin Jowett (1817-1893)
For I literally do not know what virtue is, and much less whether it is acquired by teaching or not."
And I myself, Meno, living as I do in this region of poverty, am as poor as the rest of the world; and I confess with shame that I know literally nothing about virtue; and when I do not know the "quid" of anything how can I know the "quale"?
evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com /plato_meno01.htm   (4994 words)

  
 Meno by Plato -- eText at PhilosophyClassics.com
Plato in which the importance of the investigation of facts is as much
MENO: I should say that health is the same, both in man and woman.
MENO: Yes, indeed; he was born in the house.
www.literatureclassics.com /etexts/261   (18587 words)

  
 Plato Bibliography   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
Julia Annas, An Introduction to Plato's Republic (Oxford, 1991).
Mary Margaret Mackenzie, Plato on Punishment (California, 1981).
Alexander Nehamas, "Meno's Paradox and Socrates as a Teacher," in OSAP 1985; also in Benson, ch.
www.uh.edu /~cfreelan/courses/Plato.biblio.html   (99 words)

  
 Meno by Plato
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PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: Meno; Socrates; A Slave Of Meno; Anytus -
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 Protagoras and Meno - Plato - Penguin Group (USA)
Protagoras and Meno - Plato - Penguin Group (USA)
In this new edition, two of Plato's most accessible dialogues explore the question of what exactly makes good people good.
This lively and accessible new translation conveys the literary elegance and subtle humor of Plato's original dialogues
us.penguingroup.com /nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9780140449037,00.html   (79 words)

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