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	MP3Pro vs. MP3
		The leader here is MP3Pro, and although its AFC was much different from the original in highs, the sound, in general, was excellent.
		The MP3Pro has a better 3D sound, the MP3 has a higher resolution and accuracy, and the WMA is a bit too "resonant".
		If you remember, the idea of the MP3Pro (or rather of the SBR technology) is to cut off highs so that a frequency range will be more narrow; further the highs are to be restored at the decoding stage according to information on lower frequencies.
	www.digit-life.com /articles/mp3pro (2736 words)

	Mp3PRO - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		RCA was the only company to offer portable players compatible with mp3PRO, but they have dropped support for the format.
		To play mp3PRO files with the full sample rate in Windows, users are required to install additional software.
		Limitations with getting a functional Linux player are largely due to RCA not releasing the mp3PRO source code, even after discontinuing support for the format.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Mp3PRO (305 words)

	New high-quality MP3 format debuts \| CNET News.com
		While MP3Pro files will work with software and devices based on the current MP3 format, they may sound worse on systems designed for standard MP3s because of differences in the way the sound is recorded.
		MP3Pro uses two separate streams of data to improve audio quality, only one of which can be detected by older players.
		The MP3Pro format will be completely compatible with past MP3 files, so a new player will still be able to play songs encoded, or "ripped," with earlier technology, the companies say.
	news.com.com /2100-1023-268399.html?legacy=cnet (1040 words)

	Anybody remember hearing about mp4 and mp3PRO???? - TechIMO Forums
		Mp3PRO was brought up at the "old place", i think RCA had a player for it.
		Mp3pro files were also backwards compatable with mp3 but they played back at 22khz (instead of 44khz) when played thru a normal mp3 player.
		Even a 128kb mp3pro, which should be equivalent to 164kb or so, sound really squashed and flat compared to an mp3 of similar bit-rate.
	www.techimo.com /forum/t7514.html (717 words)

	Learn all about mp3PRO and Audion (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
		mp3PRO is an evolution of MP3, developed by the original geniuses behind the world's most popular audio file format.
		Using "Spectral Band Replication" (SBR), 64k mp3PRO files contain the original (limited) MP3 audio data as well as higher frequency SBR data.
		There's no easy way to tell if a file is mp3PRO or not by simply 'looking' at it.
	www.panic.com /audion/mp3pro.html (206 words)

	New tech promises more music using less memory \| CNET News.com
		MP3Pro is being developed by Coding Technologies, a spinoff of the Fraunhofer Institute for Integrated Circuits, which shares patent rights to the MP3 format with Thomson.
		Thomson and Fraunhofer charge licensing fees for the use of MP3, and with MP3Pro the companies may be looking to create a format compelling enough for music distributors to buy.
		With MP3Pro, Thomson is challenging competitors such as Microsoft and RealNetworks, which have released formats that some industry analysts say are superior to Thomson's current MP3 format.
	news.com.com /2100-1040-250822.html (962 words)

	WINAMP.COM \| Forums - MP3Pro
		I compared the mp3pro version of a song to an mp3 version, using the latest lmae encoder, and it is extreamly clear that there were far less artifacts and the stability and quality of the encoding was much better.
		I compared the mp3pro version of a song to an mp3 version, using the latest lame encoder, and it is extreamly clear that there were far less artifacts and the stability and quality of the encoding was much better.
		From: Toledo, OH I beleive MP3Pro has an assload of royalties you have to pay to be able to use it to decode...
	forums.winamp.com /showthread.php?threadid=52470 (1051 words)

	Can't enable mp3Pro
		This is a new one to me, I dont even know where to find mp3pro and I have the FULL version of Nero7...my version is 7.0.8.2.
		You can test the Nero Burning ROM 7 mp3PRO encoder plugin as soon as Nero Burning ROM 7 is installed.
		mp3PRO files can be compressed to half the size of the conventional MP3 files with the same quality.
	forums.afterdawn.com /thread_view.cfm/340477 (804 words)

	ST \| STMicroelectronics is Developing DSP-based Decoder Chips for Coding Technologies' mp3PRO Standard \| T1062D (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
		mp3PRO is widely expected to be adopted by equipment makers and consumers because it is compatible with the highly popular MP3 standard.
		Since mp3PRO requires less bandwidth than MP3 it will also allow streaming Internet audio to be used reliably over lower speed connections, allowing more users to take advantage of Internet radio services.
		During the coding of the file the audio spectrum is separated into two bands, one for low frequencies and one for high frequencies.
	us.st.com /stonline/press/news/year2001/t1062d.htm (850 words)

	Talk:Mp3PRO - Whole Wheat Radio (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
		There is a report from Germany of playing mp3PRO by simply putting the plugin into XMMS and renaming it.
		Wine is pretty temperamental in my experiance, so others may have better luck with it, or it may work with later (or earlier) versions of wine or the players.
		However, the wikipedia entry for mp3PRO says that even RCA have stopped supporting it.
	www.wholewheatradio.org /wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Mp3PRO&printable=yes (1142 words)

	mp3licensing.com - About mp3PRO
		In 2001 Thomson announced the arrival of mp3PRO, the next generation of mp3.
		Using advanced psychoacoustics techniques and music structure analysis, mp3PRO creates files that are more compact than original mp3 files, with equal or better sound quality and complete backwards and forwards compatibility.
		New or upgraded mp3PRO decoders will tap into this part of the stream and put the two bands back together, resulting in the full audio bandwidth.
	www.mp3licensing.com /mp3/mp3pro.html (701 words)

	MP3Pro quality vs. MP3 - Hydrogenaudio Forums
		If MP3Pro at 80 or 96 could achieve MP3 128 or better quality, I would find it very intriguing for portable use - which is where I listen to most of my music.
		I suppose that the overall quality a good mp3 at 130 kbps can't be reached with mp3pro, especially at 80 or 96 kbps.
		MP3Pro 64 is NOT MP3 128 despite the claims.
	www.hydrogenaudio.org /forums/index.php?showtopic=8753 (2190 words)

	MP3Pro: More Music in Less Space PC Magazine - Find Articles
		MP3Pro audio technology is compatible with MP3 but creates files that are half the size of original MP3 files without reducing sound quality.
		A typical MP3Pro file may use a bit rate of 64 Kbps (half the rate of a high-quality MP3 file).
		An MP3Pro plug-in for Nullsoft's Winamp works with Versions 2.x, but because of changes in the interface, the MP3Pro plug-in does not work with Winamp3.
	www.findarticles.com /p/articles/mi_zdpcm/is_200308/ai_ziff44714 (828 words)

	mp3PRO Audio File Format
		The MP3PRO file format was developed by Coding Technologies to provide enhanced compression to the MP3 system.
		MP3PRO was designed after MP3s had been in use for a while, and many users had sacrificed the high quality sound in order to create smaller files for use in internet radios and on portable devices.
		Also, since most players and software packages do not support MP3PRO, using this as a file storage system might ensure that your songs are unplayable on most players you could want to buy.
	www.lisashea.com /hobbies/music/formats/mp3pro.html (185 words)

	indicate mp3pro files - Hydrogenaudio Forums
		If you have files of different formats which use the same bitrate, a little manual work will be necessary, but this is still the only fairly fast solution I can think of.
		Once you've done that, you can give the mp3Pro files a different extension (you can do it in one batch using ren .mp3 .mp3pro from a console window), and associate them with Winamp (via the folder options).
		MP3Pro decoder for Winamp v1.2 has user option to show "MP3Pro" on the display.
	www.hydrogenaudio.org /forums/index.php?showtopic=11678 (1035 words)

	MP3PRO - MisticRiver :: For iriver Enthusiasts (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
		MP3pro tries to restore some of the high frequencies lost at low bitrates by hiding some additional informations in the low frequency range as far as I remember.
		Anyways, MP3pro only sounds better at very low bit rates which can not carry high frequencies (reproducing them naturally is another story), which is below 128, and I'd doubt the result with those bitrates even with MP3pro is very high quality.
		It may be no real acid-test of legacy MP3PRO decodes - but i had a CL JB1 (A Creative Labs Nomad/DAP jukebox) driving some speakers as background audio at StuffLive last year just as a kinda impromptu test of what uber mp3 enthusiasts call 'inferior' mp3 encoding.
	www.misticriver.net /showthread.php?t=515 (1173 words)

	mp3PRO Launch Pushed Back - 7/9/2001 - TWICE - CA91715 (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
		Thomson nonetheless expects to make mp3PRO software upgrades available sometime later this year for whichever RCA portables are found to be upgradable to mp3PRO.
		Thomson, which will licenses the technology to other CE makers, believes the wait for mp3PRO will be worth it.
		For nonportable hard-drive jukeboxes, upgradability to mp3PRO won't be a problem, Cole said.
	www.twice.com /article/CA91715.html (583 words)

	mp3licensing.com - About mp3PRO Compatibility
		The most important fact about mp3PRO is that mp3PRO is completely backwards and forwards compatible with mp3.
		There is also no need to include an mp3 encoder and an mp3PRO encoder in one single product, since the mp3PRO encoder is able to produce mp3 and mp3PRO encoded content.
		The number of channels will not change whether such mp3PRO content is played on an mp3PRO system or on an mp3 system, in case of "mono" and "stereo" content.
	mp3licensing.com /mp3/mp3pro2.html (452 words)

	FileForum \| mp3PRO Player/Encoder
		mp3PRO is an improved version of the popular mp3 coding-decoding format that provides improved sound and creates files that are half or less the size of original mp3 files.
		Offering 128 kbps performance at a 64 kbps-encoding rate, mp3PRO doubles the digital music capacity of flash memory and of compact discs.
		Disabling the higher bit rate was a mistake; they should have limited the amount of play time so we could hear the quality level.
	fileforum.betanews.com /detail.php3?fid=992555006 (418 words)

	MP3Pro Audio Specification Debuts (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
		The MP3Pro audio format took the stage Thursday with the formal release of an audio encoder/decoder from Thomson Multimedia.
		The extension to the popular MP3 format uses a new algorithm to widen the audio bandwidth; the effect is to either improve the quality of the compressed audio, or allow it to be stored in a smaller file size.
		The bitrates supported by MP3Pro are, in mono: 24-, 32-, and 40-bit; and in stereo, 32-, 40-, 48-, 56-, 64-, 80-, and 96-Kbps are supported.
	www.extremetech.com /article2/0,1558,55089,00.asp (966 words)

	Mp3PRO claims downloads half the size - Articles @ MP3Machine
		Mp3PRO is both backwards and forwards compatible with mp3 and creates files that are 1/2 the size of normal mp3 files.
		mp3PRO, the eagerly anticipated next generation version of the world’s most popular audio compression format, makes its debut with the introduction of the free demonstration mp3PRO encoder/decoder now available for download.
		Utilizing advanced psychoacoustic techniques and music structure analysis, mp3PRO creates files that are twice (or more) as compact as original mp3 files, with equal or better sound quality, along with backwards and forwards compatibility.
	www.mp3machine.com /news/923 (789 words)

	MP3Pro Decoder? - Hydrogenaudio Forums
		If you are going to use the Winamp MP3Pro plugin to decode these files and you wish to play them back using FB2K, I would recommend you recompress them losslessly or leave them as WAV format.
		Decoding without an mp3pro decoder won't work at all, because the standard mp3 decoder decodes only part of the stream, resulting in what seems like highly degraded quality.
		This would let you use the Winamp MP3Pro decoder, but you would have to modify the binary with a hex editor first to change the extension to something else to avoid clashing with mpglib.
	www.hydrogenaudio.org /forums/index.php?showtopic=11884 (1454 words)

	mp3PRO encoder/decoder - MegaGames software
		mp3PRO, the eagerly anticipated next generation version of the world’s most popular audio compression format, makes its debut with the introduction of the free demonstration mp3PRO encoder/decoder.
		Launched by Thomson multimedia, mp3PRO is an improved version of the popular mp3 coding-decoding (codec) format that provides improved sound and creates files that are half or less the size of original mp3 files.
		This application, which is compatible with Windows 9X, 2000, NT, and Millennium, encodes.WAV files into mp3PRO files at 64 kbps and plays back all mp3 and mp3PRO files.
	www.megagames.com /news/show.cgi?&idtype=software&database=67& (186 words)

	mp3PRO or wma? - MegaGames mp3
		Microsoft's Windows Media format already has the small file size MP3Pro is just achieving and employs anticopying technology making it popular with record labels like Warner Music Group and BMG Entertainment.
		Arland said MP3Pro will not include an anticopying feature, but that such technologies could be implemented in the future if there is a need.
		The only way that will change is if WMA proves to offer so much better quality that a bypass for the copyright restrictions is developed.
	www.megagames.com /news/html/mp3/mp3proorwma.shtml (227 words)

	Nero 6 [mp3PRO Plug-In]
		Then the successor mp3PRO appeared with similar or better sound quality at half the bit rate, i.e.
		At high frequencies, the sound is dull and lacking in tonal clarity.
		Songs encoded with mp3PRO at an encoding rate of 64kBit/s provide almost CD quality, which corresponds to a rate of 128 kBit/s.
	ww2.nero.com /nero6/eng/mp3PRO_Plug_In.html (304 words)

	iPod: MP3Pro Files Play at Encoded Resolution \| iPoding \| What's that in your pocket?
		The MP3Pro compression format allows audio files to be encoded at a lower resolution, making the.mp3 file smaller in size.
		However, when played back on a device, or in an application that works with MP3Pro, the sound quality is perceived to be similar to the same file encoded at a higher resolution.
		The MP3Pro format allows a file to be compressed at 64 kbit/s, yet sound like it was encoded at 128 kbit/s when played back on a MP3Pro device or application.
	www.ipoding.com /modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=979 (294 words)

	World´s First Portable MP3Pro player: Evergreen EG-MSD
		MP3Pro players have always been on the drawing board, but Evergreen will be the first to take the plunge into unchartered territories.
		The MP3Pro format is compatible with.MP3, but compresses the audio even more: up to twice the compression.
		A number of audio players can be upgraded to MP3Pro and if you buy a new one, you might want to check for an upgradable one.
	www.ubergizmo.com /15/archives/2005/08/worlds_first_po.html (346 words)

	EETimes.com - Next-generation MP3 compression gains hardware support (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-05)
		MP3Pro is an MP3-compatible follow-on that its backers say improves audio file-size efficiency and fidelity.
		TI will port the MP3Pro algorithm to its C54X DSP family by year's end, with a C55X port expected to be completed in the first quarter, said Randy Cole, chief technology officer for TI's Internet audio business.
		MP3 ASIC vendor Micronas (Freiburg, Germany), meanwhile, "sees MP3Pro as a mainstream audio codec and has it on the road map," said Peter Moeller, marketing manager for personal digital entertainment at the company.
	www.eetimes.com /story/OEG20010921S0021 (1181 words)

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