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Topic: Obodrites


In the News (Sat 26 Dec 09)

  
  The way
Relations between the Frankish emperor and the Obodrite leaders were very close in the decades around 800, due to the common Saxo-Danish enemy.
Oldenburg (known as Starigard by the Slavs, and Brandehuse by the Scandinavians) was another trading centre in the territory of the Obodrites.
Hedeby remained a Danish town despite its multinational population; in the same way Reric-Mecklenburg was Obodrite, Wolin a town of the Wolin Slavs; Truso, Prussian; Staraja Ladoga, Slav and Finno-Ugrian; and Novgorod an international mercantile centre of the Ilmen Slavs.
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 Forts
The castle of the rulers of the Obodrites was situated in, Mecklenburg not fat from the Baltic near
Obodrites, it was one of the largest of Slav defensive structures.
The main concern of the Slav kingdoms of the Obodrites, the Pomeranians, the Poles and above all the Kiev Rus' was with territorial questions and national administration.
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 My Lines - Person Page 156
The Obodrites were the northwesternmost of the Slav tribes in medieval Europe, occupying lands in the area of northeastern coastal Germany..
Billung I of the Obodrites was born circa 700.
Mieceslas I of the Obodrites was born circa 781.
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 Obotrites
The Obotrites (sometimes Abodrites, Obodrites) were a mixed group among the Slavic peoples who had in the 6th century AD settled in the regions later known as Mecklenburg and Schleswig-Holstein in what is now north-eastern Germany.
They alternately fought with and served as tributaries to the Frankish kings and their successors in the East, acknowledging finally the suzerainty of the Holy Roman Empire in 1170, after which the region underwent rapid Germanisation.
In common with other Slavic groups, they were often described by Frankish sources as Wends, a term properly denoting the distinct (but possibly related) ancestors of today's Sorbs, who lived to the south-east.
www.ebroadcast.com.au /lookup/encyclopedia/ob/Obotrites.html   (120 words)

  
 My Lines - Person Page 157
Mistui II, Prince of the Obodrites was born circa 899.
He was the son of Mieceslas II of the Obodrites and N.
Mieceslas II, Prince of the Obodrites was born in 919.
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 The Conversion and Destruction of the Wends
Among the Obodrites it appears to have been all the tribe, including women and children, indicating that participation was probably at the level of family or clan rather than of the individual.
An instance of this is the rebellion of 1160, where the Obodrites continued to raid Denmark despite their leaders' agreement to stop.
The Duke was ready to attack the Obodrites and he used this as an excuse to do so.
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 charles
While he was waiting for the Slavs whom he had summoned to arrive, news reached him that Witzin, the king of the Obodrites had been caught in an ambush that the Saxons had set on the Weser, and that they had killed him as he was trying to cross the river.
They took up arms and invaded the country of the Obodrites, who were allies of the French, and had always behaved loyally towards them from the time that they had made their pledge.
Eburis, one of the king's emissaries, was at the battle, fighting on the side of the Obodrites, on the right wing.
www.bu.edu /english/levine/charles.htm   (14939 words)

  
 Regents of Mecklenburg
Before the German conquest 1160 was Mecklenburg inhabited by Slavic tribes, the most important of these were the Obodrites, but thereafter were the Slavs gradually assimilated by the German settlers that arrived in large numbers.
It had been the Saxon duke Heinrich the Lion that had conquered Mecklenburg and he installed a descendent of the Obodrites princes (Pribislaw) as his vassal.
After having been under Danish supremacy 1200-1227 was Mecklenburg once again German, but the overlordship of it was claimed by both Saxony and Brandenburg until the Mecklenburg princes were elevated to dukes 1348 whereby Mecklenburg became subordinated only to the German Emperor.
www.tacitus.nu /historical-atlas/regents/germany/mecklenburg.htm   (193 words)

  
 Projekat Rastko - Luzica / Project Rastko - Lusatia
These advances lacked secular support, however, and the revolt of 1066 demonstrated anew how easily they could be swept away; for the Church in Slavia had no parish system and only a handful of bishoprics in the extreme west of the land.
The Obodrites, for instance, had a Christian faction within the tribe from the tenth century on.l6 Perhaps they simply did not know what to make of Christianity.
The results of the Wendish Crusade were theses no land was taken, and the Obodrites received baptism--falsely, said Helmhold.82 A few oppida, such as Malchow, were destroyed, but no place of importance.83 The baptisms were indeed falsely received, and the piracy was not ended.
www.rastko.org.yu /rastko-lu/istorija/eknox-destruction/eknox-destruction3.html   (6472 words)

  
 WHKMLA : History of the Wends, prior to 814
The WENDS - a collective name for the west Slavic people who settled the region west of the Oder river - have settled the lands to the east of the Elbe and Saale rivers, and beyond that line in the upper Main and Altmark-Luechow-Dannenberg region during the Barbaric Peoples Migration, probably in the 6th century.
At the time of Charlemagne, sources report of the OBODRITES who settled between the Baltic Sea and the lower Elbe in what is Mecklenburg today, the WILZI and HEVELLI in modern Brandenburg, the SORBS (LUSATIANS) in modern Saxony.
The German settled area in Holstein was separated from the Baltic Sea by a small stretch of Slavic country, WAGRIA; the Wagrians were a branch of the Obodrites.
www.zum.de /whkmla/region/germany/wends1.html   (197 words)

  
 Paradox Interactive Forums - The Sorbs/Lusatians, Wieletes and Obodrites   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
In general Obodrites are the best documented of the 3 'Greater tribes'.
The common Obodrites themselves were Germanized quick enough already - by the end of the 18th century had these languages disappeared.
Drewians had no political system developed as they submitted themselves to Germany early on, which ensured their 'autonomy' in the region otoh (they were used to defend the German borders from especially Obodrites).
www.europa-universalis.com /forum/printthread.php?t=185176   (3236 words)

  
 charles2
The Slavs, out of their ancient hatred of the Obodrites, willingly joined the army that king Godofrid led against the Obodrites, and they returned to their territories as soon as they were able.
The Danes levied many charges at the Obodrites, and the Obodrites did the same for the Danes, in the presence of the emperor and the barons of France, but both sides left without getting anything done, and the case remained unfinished.
The spot was on a river called the Strurie (Stor), and, in the language of the country, "Essephet." Count Egbert and the counts of the country undertook and directed the construction of the city, and they began to fortify it on the first Ides of March.
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 Mecklenburg
Later the region became known as Wendenland, Wends was the German name for the Slavic tribes who inhabited the region.
Henry the Lion, Duke of Saxony, conquered the Obodrites in 1160, after a long resistance led by its last pagan prince, Niklot, who died the same year.
Przybyslaw [Pribislav], son of Niklot, became Henry’s vassal and founder of the Mecklenburg dynasty; he accepted Christianity, acknowledged German suzerainty and was recognized in 1170 as a prince of the Holy Roman Empire.
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 WHKMLA : History of the Wends, 11th to 13th Century
The rulers of the Obodrites (1170) and Pomoranians accepted both christianity and the sovereignty of the Empire, the former thus being transformed into the DUCHY OF MECKLENBURG, the latter into the DUCHY OF POMERANIA.
For the Obodrites the DIOCESIS OF SCHWERIN was formed, for the Pomoranians the DIOCESIS OF KAMMIN.
Both dukes, seeing the positive effect of German settlement on the revenues of their neighbours, invited German settlers - both burghers and farmers - to come into their country and settle.
www.zum.de /whkmla/region/germany/wends3.html   (365 words)

  
 Germanisation of the land between the Elbe-Saale and the Oder rivers   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
In the north, that is in the Obodrite and Veleti lands, Germanic political control was not fully established before the middle of the twelfth century.
In the north, a substantial episcopal tithe was paid to the bishopric of Oldenburg, by at least the Western Obodrites, from the middle of the tenth century.
The areas conquered earlier, like the western and central Sorbian and Western Obodrite lands must have had a greater proportion of bondsmen than other regions.Nevertheless, the uniform trend was toward an increased ratio of un-free people in society, the same as in other parts of the Europe.
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 Thoughts on Aliens, UFO, and Ancient Astronauts - Alternate History Discussion Board
If that is so, Western Slav Obodrites may have been familiar with this method.
We know that Charlemagne often used his Obodrite allies against the Saxons, without any qualms about allying himself with pagans, and therefore they may have used freely methods of warfare that were forbidden to the Christian Franks.
However, 776 is a very early date for Obodrite intervention on a large scale and the Syburg is distinctly too far west to give much credence to this explanation9.
www.alternatehistory.com /discussion/showthread.php?t=8594   (3983 words)

  
 All Empires History Forum: Serbian Medieval History
If we'd be in the 9th century or so Id be calling myself a Chrobatian right now as well...perhaps there's little difference really, we jsut dont know as much as we'd like.
Both his descendants became the dukes of Mecklenburg and the Obodrite people eventually became Germanized...
The Obodrites' independent principality, which was developed by the early 9th century, was conquered in the middle of 12th century by Henry the Lion, duke of Saxony, after a long resistance lead by its last pagan prince, Niklot (d.
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 Danish kings in the 8th and 9th centuries
First appears in the year 804 [ARF], when he came with his fleet and entire cavalry to Schleswig, on the border of his kingdom and Saxony, exchanging envoys with Charlemagne.
Godefrid attacked the Obodrites in 808, which resulted in an engagement with the Franks in which his brother's son Reginold was killed [ARF].
A conference between representatives of Godefrid and Charlemagne in 809 led to no agreement [ARF], and Godefrid attacked the Frisians in 810, but was murdered by one of his retainers later that year [ARF], being succeeded by his brother's son Hemming.
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 It Was a Good Day for Cohen Salian
As Wends were Slavs, while some say the Slavs derived from the Neuri, the Obodrites may just have been of Buz, son of Nahor.
It now seems irresistible to connect the Obodrites became the Batavians (I read that as Bat-Avi) that I had, previous to creating this chapter, interpreted as both Buz-branch Avvites and proto-Salian/proto-Merovingian Franks.
See that the Mecklenburg Flag uses a crowned bull, and recall that the Oxford Coat used a red bull when Oxford was ruled by Veres.
www.tribwatch.com /salian.htm   (4460 words)

  
 Notes on Poland -- Part 1
Among the most notable are the Welatabi, Sorabians, Abodrites (Obodrites?), and the Bohemians.
Boleslav II declares for opposition, possibly due to Boleslaw's support of rival princes of Libice (vs Premyslids in Bohemia).
Boleslav II uses Imperial truce declared for Obodrite campaign, and absence of Sobeslaw to conquer principality of Libice.
slavic.freeservers.com /Poland1.html   (2910 words)

  
 Data Obii to Quadi - The Ethnohistory Project
Not known from where they came, but these are Obodrites in the Alfoeld (map 302).
Although Polabane is given as a subgroup above, Polabians are given as a major group consisting of Obodrites (sensu lato) & Lutici (Wilcy) in E. Vana: The World of Ancient Slavs says that while Germanics left earlier, land was unihabited for some time.
This may be population left behind when rest of Obodrites moved N to nr Elbe R & Baltic.
life.bio.sunysb.edu /ee/msr/Ethno/gendate8.html   (7960 words)

  
 Earlier vikings - Alternate History Discussion Board
The reason we hear so much about the Viking raids is that the poor, victimised Frankish and Anglo-Saxon Christians wrote so much about them.
I'm fairly sure if the chronicles of the Saxons, Picts, Obodrites, Wilzi, Wends, Lombards, Aquitanians, Basques and Danes would have something to say about the Franks if we had them.
Placed into perspective, the Viking era is still impressive, but its maritime accomplishments don't look that unique any more.
alternatehistory.com /discussion/showthread.php?t=119   (1839 words)

  
 Ancestors and Family of Henry III the Lion of Saxony   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
In 1160 the bishopric of Oldenburg was also transferred to that city.
From 1158 on Henry had subdued the Slavic Obodrites in several expeditions, extending his power all over Mecklenburg and thus opening the way for its Christianization and colonization.
In 1160 Schwerin became the seat of the bishopric of Mecklenburg and was granted the privileges of a city.
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 LOWLANDS-L archives -- December 2004, week 1 (#26)
I would not expect it to be Saxon, not Low Franconian either.
There is this Saint Vicelin (Vicelinus, Vincelin, Vizelin, Wissel, Witzel, Wizelin), the Apostle of Holstein (which used to be partly Slavonic) and of the Obodrites (~ Abodrites, a Western Slavonic people of the greater Elbe region and in what is now roughly Mecklenburg, possibly a far-western community of Pomeranians).
Nevertheless, the fact that he worked in the north should not make us jump to the conclusion that he was a Northerner, or that his name is even Germanic.
listserv.linguistlist.org /cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0412a&L=lowlands-l&F=P&S=&P=2980   (1223 words)

  
 Europe's 12th-Century Development by Sanderson Beck
In 1160 Henry was supported with a northern attack from the coast by Valdemar's Danish army.
The Slavs retreated, and the Obodrites were defeated.
The next year Henry's forces captured Vratislav, whose brother Pribislav in 1162 led a massacre of the garrison at Mecklenburg that enslaved the women and children and burned down the town.
www.san.beck.org /AB20-Europe12thCentury.html   (23248 words)

  
 I3770: Philip of ANJOU (1256 - 1-JAN-1277)
The Slav duke Godescale had renounced Christianity after his father's death; but when vengeance did not satisfy him, he re-converted, establishing monasteries and canons in Lubeck and Oldenburg.
As leader of the Obodrites, Godescale joined with Bernhard of Saxony and Wilhelm of Brandenburg in an unsuccessful campaign against the Lyutitzi.
In 1056 Frank king Henri I met Heinrich III and challenged him to a single combat, but the German emperor made a hasty departure and died later that year.
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 Qwika - similar:Germans
The tribes settled the area late in the first millennium.
The Polabian Slavs were grouped in three basic tribal groups: Ranes Wieletes (Redars and Czrezpienians) Obodrites (Obodrites and Wagrs) Lusatian Sorbs (Sorb...
White (collection: White people or White race) is a term used as a form of ethnic or racial classification of people.
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 Projekat Rastko - Luzica / Project Rastko - Lusatia
Wendish society, on the other hand, did not develop, or rather, its development was interrupted.
In the early twelfth century some Wendish leaders, like the Obodrite Pribislav and the Pomeranian Wratislav, appeared to recognize that fundamental changes in their society were necessary if the Wends were to survive as a people.
Events in the West, the colonization movement and the crusading fervor, overtook these tentative beginnings.
www.rastko.org.yu /rastko-lu/istorija/eknox-destruction/eknox-destruction5.html   (2747 words)

  
 the English pantheon - Wizards Community
Late in the years of the 8th century, the Danes at last struck against the missionary arm of Charlemagnes war machine, sacking both Lindisfarne and Jarrow after the custom of their self-proclaimed enemies.
Godfrid then struck at Charlemagne's northern ally, Thrasko of the Obodrites, drove him into exile and made 2/3's of their land tributary.
He secured northern artisans and trade, bulding up Offa of Old anglia's famous Danevirke in the process, and then he descended on Frisia, fighting 3 engagements with local imperial troops, and beating them each time.
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