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  Reference.com/Encyclopedia/Omnibenevolence
Omnibenevolence is defined by the Oxford English Dictionary as "unlimited or infinite benevolence".
The notion of an omnibenevolent, infinitely compassionate deity, has raised certain atheological objections, such as the problem of evil and the problem of hell.
Omnibenevolence also plays a prominent role in Islam: the second of the 99 Names of God is Al Rahman, meaning "all beneficent" or "most compassionate".
www.reference.com /browse/wiki/Omnibenevolence   (450 words)

  
 The Krueger-McHugh Debate: Theism or Atheism
God is omnibenevolent, or morally perfect, and this precludes god enjoying unjust torture or suffering.
God: Can't know this, since god is omnibenevolent, and according to the xian view of sex, god can't "debase" himself to know the desire for such pleasure.
Premise #1 is surely unproblematic because if god is omnibenevolent, god wants what is best for each person and wouldn't want anything more than he wants what is best for each person.
www.infidels.org /library/modern/doug_krueger/krueger-mchugh/krueger1.shtml   (4091 words)

  
 Plastic: Netherlands Hospital Euthanizes Terminally Ill Babies
The reason I label the assumtion of an omniscent, omnipotent, omnibenevolent god as untenable is not simply lack of evidence, this would only make it unlikely, but because of the very existance of profond suffering (essentially the argument from evil).
Once we allow divine inscruitability anywhere we must admit even the extreme possibility that god is specifically lying to us about what is right and wrong to test our depth of conscience, i.e., the story of abraham and his son is an example of what not to do.
The point of all of this is not to attack catholic dogma, but to make it clear that the conclusions about euthanasia and the like are dependent on many subtle points of faith and intuitions about the nature of an inscruitable entity.
www.plastic.com /comments.html;sid=04/12/01/03425331;cid=56   (1731 words)

  
 Evil is as evil does
The Christian conception of god is supposed to be an omnibenevolent, omniscient, omnipotent entity.
Starting with the tale of a god who creates a man and a woman to tempt them with a forbidden fruit, placed in plain sight, that he knew they were going to take anyway, it relates numerous tales of divine atrocities.
The only conclusion that we can hold is that omnibenevolence itself cannot be a divine attribute, in the sense that we humans understand it.
www.objectivethought.com /atheism/evilis.html   (1253 words)

  
 MIDDLE KNOWLEDGE AND CHRISTIAN EXCLUSIVISM
God in His providence has so arranged the world that as the Christian gospel went out from first century Palestine, all who would respond freely to it if they heard it did hear it, and all who do not hear it are persons who would not have accepted it if they had heard it.
This multipl[ies] (by infinity) the amount of evil that must be reconciled with the existence of an omnipotent and omnibenevolent God…"{6} Or again, "...
And, of course, the doctrine of transcircumstantial damnation is merely an auxiliary doctrine proposed in response to an objection based on what I regard as the very dubious assumption that necessarily, an omnibenevolent God would not create persons who actually reject His grace and are lost, but who would have been saved under other circumstances.
www.leaderu.com /offices/billcraig/docs/middle1.html   (6047 words)

  
 God is not omnibenevolent - IIDB
So, my purpose is to encourage users here to seriously consider refraining from the use of "omnibenevolence." Proving to a Christian that God cannot be both omnibenevolent and omnipotent is about as useful as proving to Christians that Buddha is in fact not God.
God is said to be 'all-merciful', I've heard that expression in church, as well as 'all-loving.' In sunday school children sing 'god loves all the little children,' etc, and christians continuously speak of god's love.
Granted, as I mentioned, they'd claim that all his wrath and justice and vengeance and raining sulpher and fire and brimstone and all the rest is in fact "good" (in the moral sense, I suppose?).
www.iidb.org /vbb/showthread.php?t=197346   (3231 words)

  
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If God is omnibenevolent, he would want to prevent all evil.
Perhaps he is not fully omnipotent (there are certain things he just cannot do), or perhaps he is not really omnibenevolent.
So, the ultimate problem with denying that God, is, say, omnibenevolent, is that it flies in the face of what many of us concieve God to be - and the God we are really worried about existing.
www.angelfire.com /rant/theonlyshocker   (1270 words)

  
 Evil Disproves God?
This, to me, is similar to saying that a three dimensional object transcends a two dimensional shape - not by having those two dimensions to the nth degree, but by having a third dimension that the two dimensional shape does not.
The Christian gospel does not primarily know God as one who is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, the Christian gospel primarily knows God as the one who is revealed in Jesus Christ.
And so, when a Christian claims God is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, one must go to the biblical presentation of Jesus Christ to find out what they mean.
www.users.fast.net /~bekkenhuis/page10222.html   (2261 words)

  
 What is Faith? The answer from Irregular Times   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
This apparent injustice created by an omnipotent omnibenevolent God doesn't make any sense to believers, yet sense must be made of it, because they believe that the universe must makes sense because it operates according to God's rules.
Belief in the justice of the afterlife is essential to emotional satisfaction of believers by their religion because it provides psychological defense against the contradiction of an omnipotent omnibenevolent God presented by the unjust world.
However, the idea of an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, omniscient God is logically incompatible with the existence of Hell.
irregulartimes.com /whatfaith.html   (833 words)

  
 AnalPhilosopher The Logical Problem of Evil
They try to show that evil is compatible (after all) with an omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent being, i.e., that the mere fact of evil, such as we saw in the case of Hurricane Katrina, does not preclude God’s existence.
To say that God is omnibenevolent is to say that he is perfectly good.
In Genesis 18, it is explained that there was much wickedness in Sodom and Gomorrah, that God was punishing that wickedness, and that if there had been even ten righteous people in the former city, it would have been spared.
www.analphilosopher.com /posts/1126503735.shtml   (1932 words)

  
 Ephilosopher :: Philosophy of Religion Forum :: All Loving = Revealing in Unambiguous Ways   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
As humans, we have no true knowledge of what it means to be all loving (omnibenevolent).
As humans we do have no true knowledge of what it means to be omnibenevolent.
I don't know of a point in the Bible where God is specifically described as loving everything, or the Qu'ran for that matter, which are, correct me if I'm wrong, but the only two books supposedly divinely inspired that attest to a God that is beyond our natural universe.
www.ephilosopher.com /phpBB_14-action-viewtopic-topic-516&6.html   (978 words)

  
 Drifty's Rants - -
Even if we say God is omnibenevolent regardless, then if God is omnipotent it has the ability to eliminate evil.
Some people say that Satan made evil but that puts him to the level of God and goes against the definition of God being a being in which there can be no greater.
If he is not omnibenevolent that would allow God to do anything, and if he is omnipotent that is a scary thought.
www.ocf.berkeley.edu /~bac/DR/religion/theodicy.php   (604 words)

  
 ON THE FREE WILL DEFENSE AGAINST ARGUMENT FROM EVIL - Aparthib Zaman
One of the most damaging argument against the existence of God is the argument from evil, which says the presence of evil (Both natural and moral) implies lack of omnibenevolence, a defining attribute of God and thus contradicts God's existence.
The words omnipotent = all-powerful, omniscient = all-knowing and omnibenevolent = all compassionate are attributes often applied to God, that he is all-powerful, knows all that can be known and is infinitely compassionate.
Most importantly, is it consistent with an omnibenevolent being to require that evil be committed on children, innocent men and women (after all evil is defined as wrongs perpetrated on the innocent, not on the wicked) just so that the victims (if they survive) or those who were spared can appreciate the good?
www.mukto-mona.com /Articles/aparthib/FREE_WILL_DEFENSE.htm   (3333 words)

  
 Theological Noncognitivism Examined
Similarly, while some might say that omnibenevolence involves more than just loving everyone maximally, most of them would probably say that that property is enough on its own.
For any given act is bound to provide at least one person with a lesser degree of happiness than the degree of happiness with which another act would provide him, but which provides somebody else with a greater degree of happiness than could any other (conceivable) act: one man’s heaven is another man’s hell.
We come next to (G6): “the personal, omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, eternal ruler and creator of the universe.” That this definition is intelligible should not be controversial.
www.sewanee.edu /philosophy/Journal/Archives/2002/Conifer.htm   (5006 words)

  
 fidlet.com » the argument from evil against the existence of God
Personally speaking, I am more comforted by the possibility of a non-omnipotent and non-omniscient God because it raises the possiblity of a God who is changing and growing and learning over time (much as we all are), and/or the possibility of a god who is restrained by some sort of rules (for example, nonintervention).
Omnibenevolent means being and doing good at all times.
From the outset, a false premise is assumed.
www.fidlet.com /?p=16   (8450 words)

  
 What is Faith? The answer from Irregular Times   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
First, believers see that in a world which is supposed to be ruled by an omnipotent and omnibenevolent God, bad things nonetheless happen.
In a kind of circular logic, the existence of the divine justice of the afterlife is amply proven to the believer by the otherwise unthinkable injustice of the world created by God.
Though such a line of questioning, the attempt to prop up belief in an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, omniscient God through the invention of the justice of Heaven and Hell falls apart as an internally inconsistent idea.
www.irregulartimes.com /whatfaith.html   (833 words)

  
 A Re-Examination of the Problem of Evil
Since God is omnibenevolent, he wants to stop human suffering.
The association of omnibenevolent with the term "omni-good" is therefore correct : an omnibenevolent being would always be disposed to only effect good, without exception.
It seems to be always implied in discussions on God's nature that a god's morality should be the same as ours because we use the same word, "good".
www.objectivethought.com /atheism/argumentfromevil.html   (1365 words)

  
 [No title]   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
[3] It is not the case that God is omnibenevolent and omnipotent.
Furthermore, God did not create mankind so that man may reach perfection through freedom, but “creation came about in struggle with the primordial chaos, so that the divine purpose is only imperfectly written into their nature.” ([1], 49) Therefore, mankind is capable of moral evil.
One might claim that God is still responsible for the moral evil that exists in the world, contradicting the belief that God is omnibenevolent.
www.cs.rpi.edu /~fairgr/papers/evil.doc   (2990 words)

  
 TooMuchSexy.blog - Is God really Omnibenevolent?
P4: God is Omnibenevolent and therefore by definition wants to remove evil from the world.
A better (logically) argument is that since God is omniscient, and we are not, we cannot prove, disprove, or even judge his omnibenevolance.
Omnibenevolent is often misused by philosophers to prove the absense of God, qed, and is not biblical in the way we comprehend it.
www.toomuchsexy.org /index/weblog/comments/3540   (1503 words)

  
 The Problem of Evil   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
The argument is based on what most philosophers believe is the main idea of what God is. God is a being that is omnipotent (all-powerful), omniscient (all-knowing), and omnibenevolent (perfectly good).
Atheologists claim that a being that has those qualities cannot have created the world we live in, due to the amount of evil in the world.
The argument admits that there is evil in the world, but asserts that the evil was not of God's creation and is not under God's power to eliminate (denying premise #3).
www.geocities.com /lord-leachim/philosophy/problemofevil.html   (2485 words)

  
 Balderdash
It is not that God just chooses not to do such things, rather that God's nature as omnibenevolent constrains what she can do.
One possible response is that God isn't necessarily omnibenevolent, but, as a matter of fact, since she never chooses to do something which is unloving, is omnibenevolent.
Your God is omnipotent (all-powerful, able to do anything), omnibenevolent (all-loving), omniscient (all-knowing) and the creator of all that exists.
gssq.blogspot.com /2004/08/quote-of-post-words-easy-to-be.html   (2413 words)

  
 Evil is as evil does
If we mean an impersonal, universal force, then it doesn't have the capacity to act and to be good or evil.
If we're talking about the common personal, creator, omnibenevolent god, then he should surely want to do good.
After all, that's what "omnibenevolent" means in the first place.
www.suite101.com /article.cfm/atheism/66870   (410 words)

  
 Someplace Somewhere - Can the concept of God make sense?   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
For example, John Stuart Mill believed that God was omniscient and omnibenevolent, but not omnipotent.
Exactly what do you mean by "omnibenevolent?" It's a pretty vague and imprecise term.
The way i'd get around that is to not insist that time be created, but say rather that God had existed in some sort of time prior to creating our local space-time continuum, our shared universe.
www.someplacesomewhere.com /topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2203   (5327 words)

  
 View topic - If god really was omnibenevolent... :: Atheist Network   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
Bear in mind the very concept of "hell", even for a limited amount of time, would be rendered meaningless should it be created by an omnibenevolent god.
It wouldn't be torture, it would probably be "re-education" - teaching someone what they did wrong during their lifetimes and what they should have done instead.
A truly omnibenevolent god wouldn't have created heaven or hell, he would just utilise re-incarnation.
www.atheistnetwork.com /viewtopic.php?t=14482&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=   (1114 words)

  
 [No title]   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
The idea here is that the existence of evil poses, at a minimum, a serious problem for traditional theism (the view that God exists and is omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent).
God exists and is omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent.
Hence, (1) is false; that is, either God does not exist, or God is not omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent.
www.siue.edu /~evailat/evil.html   (173 words)

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