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	Reformed Paedobaptism
		The argument that paedobaptism is not taught obviously and explicitly in the Holy Scriptures proves too much for the antipaedobaptist cause even more specifically in the practice of baptism itself, for there is no clear, explicit example of the baptism of any youth of any age in the Bible.
		If we may not practice paedobaptism because there are no clear, explicit examples of it found in the Bible, we must equally avoid the adult baptismal requirement of a profession of faith, because there are no clear, explicit examples found in the Bible that ministers required all baptized to offer a profession of faith.
		Perhaps the most fundamental objection to paedobaptism, or at least the sentiment that is at the root of most of the other objections, is that paedobaptism is not fair and just because it permits the parent to act for the child while in the Bible everyone must act only for himself in spiritual matters.
	www.mbrem.com /baptism/defense.htm (4698 words)

	A Summary of John Calvin's Defense of Paedobaptism
		He reminds his readers too that paedobaptism is a hoary practice: "[T]here is no ancient writer who does not refer to its origin, as a matter of certainty, to the age of the apostles."
		Following [16], Calvin sets forth the inconsistency of those who argue for the difference between circumcision and baptism and against paedobaptism on the grounds that circumcision means mortification while baptism means new life, while they simultaneously insist that baptism means burial.
		3:21 against paedobaptism is not valid, for the "answer of a good conscience" inherent in the meaning of baptism refers to the future, not the past, of the one baptized.
	www.forerunner.com /puritan/PS.Calvin_baptism.html (1868 words)

	Book IV Chapter 16 (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-19)
		Argument, that baptism being appointed for the remission of sins, infants, not having sinned, ought not to be baptised.
		But he himself, showing that the answer of a good conscience forms the truth of circumcision, and, at the same time, commanding infants to be circumcised, plainly intimates that, in their case, circumcision had reference to the future.
		Doubtless, the design of Satan in assaulting paedobaptism with all his forces is to keep out of view, and gradually efface, that attestation of divine grace which the promise itself presents to our eyes.
	www.reformed.org /books/institutes/bk4ch16.html (12403 words)

	Restless till we rest in You: 05/01/2005 - 05/31/2005
		The infant children of believing parents are to be treated as children of the covenant, not just the same as adults born outside the church, who have spent a lifetime in active rebellion against God.
		To demand such an example is to presuppose that paedobaptism bears the burden of proof...
		Another argument against paedobaptism is that the practice of baptizing people before they make a decision to follow Christ creates the problem of producing a lot of baptized pagans, who reject Christ later in life.
	trahtoom.blogspot.com /2005_05_01_trahtoom_archive.html (2623 words)

	CGR: Credobaptism vs. Paedobaptism
		I believe and practice paedobaptism, but if a family in the church wished to not have their child baptised, rather wait until the child expressed faith in Christ, I'd have no problems with admitting it.
		The position of Credobaptism denies paedobaptism in that it is a belief that only those who confess Christ should be baptized.
		Paedobaptism denies credobaptism in that it believes that people (babies) who haven't/can't confessed Christ should be baptized.
	www.christianguitar.org /forums/showthread.php?t=104935 (1519 words)

	Paedobaptism Considered (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-19)
		Done through the instrumentality of what is regarded as “the church”, it assured loyalty, whether prince or pauper, to the papal interest.
		Such is the power of this sacerdotalism upon the human nature, that even those who declare themselves to be opposed to the practice of paedobaptism, nevertheless practice a duplicitous substitute, conveniently calling it “infant dedication”, and which is undertaken with a pomp and ceremony not dissimilar to the paedobaptist rite.
		Paedobaptism is an invention of men, whose pride affords it higher authority than the example and teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ and the apostles.
	www.theforgottenbible.org /Paedobaptism_considered.htm (1444 words)

	Baptism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Baptism among Christians is performed by aspersion (sprinkling water over the head), infusion (pouring water over the head) or full immersion (lowering the entire body into a pool of water).
		The choice to be baptized is made by a confessing believer (believer baptism, or credobaptism), regardless of age, as a confession of his faith; or on behalf of the child by his or her parents (paedobaptism) if the parents have themselves been baptized, and profess faith.
		Some churches practice credobaptism and some practice paedobaptism and some churches practice both.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Baptism (4244 words)

	I know less than I'm letting you in on.
		In Paedobaptism and Circles I introduced a basic framework for discussing the relationship between the sacraments, especially Baptism, and the Church.
		And while I don't believe he ever withdrew from the doctrine of paedobaptism, his stripping the sacraments of their value and significance ultimately influenced the Church to think similarly, and eventually change into the professional conversionism that dominates the American evangelical landscape today.
		As these Puritanical groups are thriving today (Baptists, Non-denoms, Pentecostals, etc.) for reasons I may only speculate about, exceeding amounts of pressure are put on Mainline Denominations (Lutherans, Anglicans, Presbyterians, and I would even say Catholics) within the Church Universal to embrace similar conceptions of the Faith.
	www.truthbecomeslies.com /2005/04/paedobaptism-and-circles-part-ii.htm (2539 words)

	A RESPONSE (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-19)
		People who come from a Reformed, Anglican, or Roman Catholic background can and should preach about the importance of evaluating the tradition of paedobaptism, because that is their own tradition, which is likely to color their view of Scripture if they are not careful.
		But I have realized now that my thinking was backwards: if anyone has to prove their viewpoint to me (or you), it is the credobaptists, because they are flying in the face of most Christians, and most godly theologians, in the history of the church.
		With this in mind, it should not be difficult to see how the Reformers viewed paedobaptism as perfectly consistent with their theology, because the child of the covenant who believes can vividly see the loving initiative of God in the sacrament he received prior to any movement toward God on his part.
	www.faithsonoma.com /readingroom/baptismargue.htm (7636 words)

	Christ Reformed Church: The Sacraments, Lecture 4 - Baptist Objections to Infant Baptism and the Reformed Response (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-19)
		Spurgeon's famous objection to paedobaptism at this point, "children are brought to Christ not to a font," completely misses the point of our Lord's words and the concerns of the Reformed Christian.
		The Baptist also raises these supposed inconsistencies as evidence of the untenable or inconsistent nature of paedobaptism, but inconsistencies in someone's practice merely demonstrates that we are all sinners with different levels of sanctification, and in no way necessarily negates the theory underlying it.
		Nettles' main point seems to be that all of the members of the New Covenant are regenerate (since the law is written upon their hearts and minds).
	www.christreformed.org /resources/sermons_lectures/00000062.shtml?main (7370 words)

	Borg Blog: My Reasons for Embracing Paedobaptism (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-19)
		This is not put forward as a comprehensive list of proofs or even as a defense of the position, but simply a summary of the key ideas and thoughts that have led me to this place.
		Nearly 2,000 years after Pentecost, there is no uniformity of thought or practice among credobaptists – and even among the small subset of “Reformed Baptists” – for when the church should recognize a child’s profession of faith as credible.
		In contrast, the practice of paedobaptism emphasizes the fact that baptism is a work of God, not an “act of obedience.” After all, what “choice” did the infant have in his baptism?
	langborgh.blogspot.com /2004/07/my-reasons-for-embracing-paedobaptism.html (1293 words)

	Scott - Baptism (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-19)
		Man doesn't establish a covenant with God, but rather God with man. So it seems that to justify paedobaptism, there is an extraordinary burden of proof to show that the children of faithful believers are not simply the recipients of special means of grace, but actually recipients of God's mercy.
		I don't think that's true, even considering all the different ways that believing parents could fall short, and even qualifying parents' faithfulness (and hope for their children's salvation) as rooted in grace from first to last.
		The federal-vision retort to the preceding paragraph is that God's covenants include offspring, yet offspring who are in violation of the covenant are subject to God's judgment.
	scott.andstuff.org /Baptism (606 words)

	the journals
		In their belief of paedobaptism, which is the baptizing of infants, they practice a damnable heresy contrary to Scripture, and it is my sincere prayer that every paedobaptist will see their error and come to hold the true teachings of Scripture regarding baptism.
		To their own embarrassment, the doctrine of paedobaptism, embraced by the major Presbyterian denominations, was not practiced until late in the history of the Church.
		I love the brethren who hold to it, but I think the theology of paedobaptism is hurtful to the church and the mission of the gospel.
	sethandjulie.net /journal (6362 words)

	Is Infant Baptism Truly Based on Scripture (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-19)
		Horton’s paedobaptism, I do not question his sincerity in seeking to honor Christ and promote what he believes to be a biblical teaching.
		I think this helps to demonstrate how weak the case for paedobaptism is and how superficial their exegesis can become when they have a cause to defend.
		But, of course, we must always remember that paedobaptism is a practice in desparate search of proof from the New Testament – and any text even remotely suggestive is game.
	home.earthlink.net /~ddcerkel/Infant_baptism_horton.html (5321 words)

	•Sacramental-blog•
		The argument for paedobaptism is not, in my opinion, best understand as a chain of good and necessary inference containing a number of individual arguments or links.
		At the outset it is important that we appreciate (as I stated in a previous post) that paedobaptism was not originally practiced on the basis of a deduction from Scripture, either from the Old or from the New Testament.
		Erroneous arguments for paedobaptism should not be taken as proof that the practice of paedobaptism is itself in error.
	sacramentalblog.blogspot.com /archives/2004_02_01_sacramentalblog_archive.html (17710 words)

	Horne -- Defense of Paedobaptism Contra Greg Welty
		The idea that their relationship began from the womb was not some sort of fantastic exception, but the general expectation.
		Because the argument for paedobaptism cannot be made directly from Scripture, people like Horne are forced to argue their point from inference.
		You see, arguing for paedobaptism from the inference that the New Covenant includes both elect and non-elect members is a disjointed argument.
	www.craigwhite.net /craignew/paedobaptism_horne-welty.htm (16633 words)

	Articles: First Reformed Presbyterain Church (PCA): Minco, Oklahoma (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-19)
		No, we practice paedobaptism because we are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Bible teaches us to do so.
		The first thing which usually comes up in a discussion of paedobaptism versus credobaptism ("believer's baptism") is the claim that there is no verse which authorizes the baptism of babies in the New Testament.
		Our belief in paedobaptism has much to do with our belief that the Church of Jesus Christ began in Genesis and continued on through various different stages in history as one continuous people of God, and still continues on today.
	www.mincopca.org /articles.html?cm_id=8 (5980 words)

	The Mode of Baptism (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-19)
		However, by far the most important of them is the idea of the covenant of grace which unites the covenants as one and thus the covenant peoples as one.
		If the idea of the covenant of grace falls, both covenant theology and their argument for paedobaptism fall with it.
		First it is necessary to point out that the idea of the covenant of grace is an artificial construct, not one that the Scriptures themselves describe.
	www.christonomy.com /Articles/Theology/ModeOfBaptism.aspx (1993 words)

	Sola Gratia: Paedobaptism - Institutes of the Christian Religion
		Divisions of this chapter, - I. Confirmation of the orthodox doctrine of paedobaptism, sec.
		Lest this should seem absurd, he adds, "Of such is the kingdom of heaven." But if infants must necessarily be comprehended the expression, "of such," clearly shows that infants themselves, and those like them, are intended.
		Wherefore, if we would not maliciously obscure the kindness of God, let us present to him our infants, to whom he has assigned a place among his friends and family that is, the members of the Church.
	incolor.inetnebr.com /stuart/baptclvn.htm (12056 words)

	Baptizo — Home Page of the Largest Collection of Believers' Baptism (Immerison) Links on the Internet
		All four of them practice paedobaptism (that is, they subscribe to infant baptism), which is opposed to credobaptism.
		Churches of Christ and the Christian Churches are sacramentalists, even though they do not practice paedobaptism or infant baptism and hold to a "form" of credobaptism or believers' baptism.
		Basically it is for the busy Christian who wants to find out quickly whether or not he has found a believers' baptism site that truly promotes immersion for those who are regenerate only (that is, only for those who are born again).
	www.angelfire.com /ia/Baptizo (1466 words)

	I know less than I'm letting you in on.
		Paedobaptism and Circles - Part II - Continuing the Dialogue [7]
		In communication, the only thing more important than the desire for mutual understanding is being able to speak in the same language.
		So, since we are visual creatures before we are verbal ones, I've decided to take an important step in communication by explaining the distinctions between paedobaptism and credobaptism using circles and single letters.
	www.truthbecomeslies.com /archive/2005_04_01_index.htm (4340 words)

	John Heemstra - Sydnie Baptized (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-19)
		I happen to be part of a denomination that baptizes children, but I've also had many discussions with those who say baptism is only for those who understand and profess faith.
		Although my personal stance on baptism is somewhat conflicted uncertainty, being 45% reformed-paedobaptist, 55% baptist, (having researched both positions and having watched children raised in baptistic families get saved) I strongly believe that each person should know the scriptures and do what they honestly believe commanded by God.
		Here's the best understanding I have of the explanation of paedobaptism: (In case you ever get into a discussion about this.
	www.sophtek.com /jlh/modules.php?name=News&file=article&thold=-1&mode=flat&order=1&sid=39 (1128 words)

	Frontline Ministries - Rationale Behind Paedobaptism
		The practice of Paedobaptism is performed with the hope of future regeneration, faith, repentance and confession.
		The ramifications of Paedobaptism when carried out in church life can send the message that those baptized in infancy are regenerated.
		“Paedobaptism is clearly tied to sacralism in church history.” During the Constantinian era, church and state were regarded as coextensive.
	www.frontlinemin.org /paedo.asp (6764 words)

	MB Forum: Pedobaptism
		In short - Infant baptism (also called paedobaptism and pedobaptism), the baptism of the infant or young children of believers.
		Its really too bad, as far as I am concerned, that paedobaptism is practiced.
		I would also add tha paedobaptism is a practiced founded in beliefs abotu the New Covenant which I find biblcially unsupportable.
	www.mbforum.ca /topic/753.html (694 words)

	CGR: View Single Post - Could some kind person please explain paedobaptism for me? (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-19)
		Seeing as this appears to be the only point of reformed/presbyterian theology (to my knowledge) that I don't agree with, I have a LOT of questions.
		Basically, I want to make sure that my disagreement is not with a false representation of paedobaptism.
		Ironically, it's not in the dictionary; but if you're one too, then you'll know what it means anyway.
	www.christianguitar.org /forums/showpost.php?p=883530&postcount=1 (156 words)

	CGR: Is Paedobaptism Wrong?
		Note: paedobaptism does not say that infants only can be baptized.
		I don't think anyone in their right mind would claim that only babys should be baptised.
		I think that people should not be baptized as infants but instead wait until they are old enough to understand the church and make their own decisions about which church they want to enter.
	www.christianguitar.org /forums/showthread.php?t=74610 (1636 words)

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