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	Palantir / Palantiri
		The exception among the palantiri in Middle-earth was the Stone of Osgiliath, which could survey all of the other palantiri at once.
		The palantiri were polarized and the axis from the top pole to the bottom pole had to point to the center of the earth.
		The Stone of Annuminas was kept in the capital of the North-kingdom and it was the palantir used by the King.
	www.tuckborough.net /palantir.html (2907 words)

	Palantir and Seeing Stones
		The palantiri were made by the Elves of Valinor in the Uttermost West, almost certainly by the Noldor and possibly by Feanor.
		Of these, Elendil took seven palantiri with him on his flight to the continent of Middle-earth, and in time they were distributed among seven places: four in Gondor and three in Arnor.
		The other two palantiri in Arnor were those of the watch-tower of Amon Sul and the city of Annuminas.
	www.firstage.net /articles/palantir.html (860 words)

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		Chapter 2 - The Early History of the Palantiri ============================================== Not much survives of the role to which the orbs were put in the earliest days.
		So since the greater number of the palantiri were probably stolen from Formenos, it is conceivable that the Eldar had but eight stones remaining, of which they gave all but the Master Stone to those who will need it most in the centuries to come.
		To furnish the relationship between the sister kingdoms, the palantiri were placed so that contact could be maintained with all parts of the kingdoms.
	members.tripod.com /Tabris23/books/book17.txt (3456 words)

	History of the palantiri.
		The palantiri were placed so that contact could be maintained between all parts of the two Kingdoms.
		Due to the skill of their creators, the palantiri are virtually indestructible.
		The palantiri are regarded as one of the greatest secrets and, indeed, among the most precious treasures in all Middle-earth.
	myweb.tiscali.co.uk /kenjimin/Merp/background/palantir.htm (700 words)

	The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum - Hunt for the Palantíri RPG
		The Palantiri were objects of immense power and would be prime targets for anyone seeking to seize political authority by sinister means.
		Clearly, these were the palantiri of Annúminas and Amon Sôl that had sunk some thousand years before, when the Elven ship sent to rescue the King had capsized and all aboard, including Arvedui, perished beneath the ice.
		Diera stared at the distant vessel in anger as she thought of the risk the Palantiri were in of falling into evil hands.
	forum.barrowdowns.com /showthread.php?t=10989 (9875 words)

	Entmoot - Wars of the Palantiri, the Witch-King and the Ithil Stone
		The Palantiri could not be used to corrupt others in anyway better than a face to face talk could, if anything they could be worse as you can lie in a face to face conversation.
		As for the Palantiri being less effective for corruption than a face to face meeting, you are probably right, but I don’t see how this applies.
		They don’t transmit images or (the equivalent of) sounds that don’t actually exist (the Palantiri don't transmit actual sound.) What I mean is this: If Saruman and Denethor were conversing using the Stones, the evidence suggests that Saruman was fully capable of lying (verbally) to Denethor, but he couldn’t show him something that didn’t exist.
	www.tolkientrail.com /entmoot/showthread.php?t=13090 (3852 words)

	Middle-Earth Historic Documents
		Because of this, and the defeat of king Ondoher on the fields of Dagorlad in 1944 T.A. by the Easterlings, Gondor is such weakened that she still cannot move her troops back into Mordor, from where they had to withdraw in 1856 T.A. when the Wain Rider attacks started.
		The watch on Mordor has therefore since been exclusively carried out using the palantiri, the seeing stones, an undertaking made much harder by the loss of the master palantir in Osgiliath during the Kin-Strife.
		Arthedain, the last of the northern kingdoms, fell in 1974 under the onslaught of the Witchking of Angmar, and two of the three palantiri of the Northern Kingdom are now lying on the bottom of the Bay of Forochel.
	redwolf.org.uk /merp.html (7261 words)

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		The Palantiri are better and worse for minions than they are for heroes.
		But three of the minion Palantiri are worth MORE MPs than the hero versions - this when, in general, minion items tend to be worth less.
		Of all the Palantiri, the one of Elostirion is the one that gains the most in comparison.
	fan.theonering.net /morgulrats/cotd/cotd528.html (466 words)

	Lord of the Rings Fanatics Library (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
		In the Simarillion, (Chapter 6, Of Fëanor and the Unchaining of Melkor), the Palantiri are mentioned as one of the first creations of the restless mind and high craft-skills of Fëanor.
		So also in C the palantiri taken by Arvedui are those of Annuminas and Emyn Beraid, for in that text the Stone of Amon Sul was said to have been broken (p.
		We also learn that among the Palantiri in Gondor, one was considered as "the chief and master" - the one under the Dome of Stars at Osgiliath before its ruin.
	www.lotrlibrary.com /agesofarda/palantir.asp (2214 words)

	Lord of the Rings, The - Literature Guide - MSN Encarta
		Pippin, Aragorn, and Denethor all use one of the palantiri.
		The most pervasive of these elements are the Rings of Power, the palantiri, and Gandalf.
		Select three or four other supernatural objects or characters and show how they fit into Tolkien's concepts of Middle-earth.
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	Minas Tirith Forums: How powerful was Himring and what about the palantiri?
		I am pretty sure that more than 7 palantiri were orignally made, but only 7 were given to Amandil for being faithful by the Eldar.
		I also came up with the theory that Fëanor constructed the palantíri for himself and his seven sons and I think that it is quite interesting.
		Letters?) that the seven palantiri were not at all identical, as the Orthanc-stone.
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	The One Ring: The White Council :: View topic - Sauron and the Palantiri
		The making of the palantiri isn't just a question of power and strength, it is a question of skill and craftsmanship.
		Unlike the making of the One Ring, which was an un-natural and evil harnessing of Sauron's power, the making of the palantiri (and the Silmarils) is simply an expression of the finely honed skills of the Noldor, and Feanor in particular.
		Sauron tried to bend the Palantiri that did exist to the same purpose but he did not have sufficient skill to be totally successful (although he did manage to ensnare Saruman).
	forums.theonering.com /viewtopic.php?t=86896 (815 words)

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		The Numenoreans, led by Elendil, carried with them to Middle- earth a seedling of the White Tree, Nimloth the Fair, the sceptre of Annuminas, and the palantiri, seven seeing-stones given them by the Elves.
		The palantiri were crystal globes, about half the size of a man's head, which were deepest fl in colour when not in use.
		However, by the time of the War of the Ring, only the palantiri of Orthanc and Minas Tirith were still in use, and the stone of Minas Ithil had been taken to Mordor.
	www.freewebs.com /lotr_houses-of-healing/weapons_palantiri.htm (139 words)

	KMC Forums - The Seven Palantiri
		The Palantiri looked like; in rest; to be made of solid glass or crystal in deep fl hue, and perfectly smooth spheres, the size was for the smallest about 1 feet and the great stones (nr.
		4.: The Palantir in Osgilliath, the strongest of them and called Anarions Palantiri, was lost in the war of the Kin-strife in the ruin and burning of the tower in the city in T.A.1437 during the reign of Eldakar.
		7.: The last Palantiri, the one from Orthanc came in the hands of Aragorn II., T.A.3019 and where it vent after his death there is no saying but i asume it was left over to his son Eldarion and it still is in his heirs costody in Minas Tirith in Gondor.
	www.killermovies.com /forums/f34/t25433.html (1432 words)

	MECCG Scenario: To Seek the Seeing-stones
		Rumour has returned to Middle-earth that the palantiri of Amon Sul and Annuminas, lost centuries ago in the ship-wreck of King Arvedui in the icy waters of the Bay of Forochel, have resurfaced in the cold northern lands of Forodwaith.
		The Rangers of the North, remnants of the ruling house of the Dunedain, have called for those courageous enough to brave the harsh wastes and fearsome creatures of these northernmost reaches of of Endor, to return the seeing-stones to the rightful heirs of Elendil's line.
		Marshalling points for palantiri are doubled if you have both the Palantir of Amon Sul and the Palantir of Annuminas in play.
	fan.theonering.net /morgulrats/palantir.html (785 words)

	The Palantiri
		The Palantiri were Stones of Seeing that were able to communicate with eachother over great distances.
		Elendil brought 7 Palantiri to Middle-Earth and they were used by the Kingdom of Gondor to guard the empire.
		Sauron got his hands on the Palantir of Minas Ithil and used it to corrupt Saruman who had the Palantir of Orthanc and Denethor who had the Palantir of Minas Tirith.
	radio.weblogs.com /0116391/stories/2002/11/23/thePalantiri.html (123 words)

	Entmoot - The Heirlooms of Arnor
		We know that the ring of Barahir and the Palantiri went with the King, and the others were saved by other means.
		I agree that the Arnorian civil wars and war with Angmar were the Palantiri wars.
		The new thread is here:The Wars of the Palantiri, the Witch-King and the Ithil Stone
	www.tolkientrail.com /entmoot/showthread.php?t=13065 (3712 words)

	Star Wars: Message Boards: The Palantiri of Numenor
		Date Posted: Dec 23, 2003 12:20 PM This thread is to talk about the history of the Palantiri of Numenor, the seeing stones that Elendil took with him from the ruin of Numenor.
		Date Posted: Dec 23, 2003 12:32 PM ok, The Palantiri are seven stones that the exiles of Numenor brought with them when their homeland was destroyed, Elendil and his sons divided the stones, three Elendil kept to him and his relm of Arnor in the north.
		He is taking it to Aman, the continent to the west of Middle-Earth, where all the elves went.
	forums.starwars.com /thread.jspa?threadID=150678 (925 words)

	GreenBooks.TheOneRing.net™ \| Question & Answer \| Month of 05/04 (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
		My question concerns the palantiri and the fact that both Sauron and Saruman possessed one, and wielded them with ease.
		I have heard that they may represent the seven palantiri, or the seven ships that bore a palantir to Middle-earth.
		The answer, unusually enough, is to be found in the Index to the Lord of the Rings that was prepared for the second edition.
	greenbooks.theonering.net /questions/files/050504.html (1315 words)

	White Tree Questions - Page 2 - LOTRG Forums
		I thought the seven Stones represented the Palantiri and the stars were the seven stars that make up the Plough or Great Bear.
		Of the seven "famous" palantiri (those of Osgiliath, Annuminas, and Aman Sul) were destroyed according to various of Tolkien's notes and tales.
		None of this cannot be confirmed, but it is easy to imagine from Gandalf's words that Denethor might have been less obnoxious to a younger Faramir, and decorating his first armor as a sort of first rite of passage.
	www.lordoftheringsguide.com /forums/showthread.php?p=268274 (1503 words)

	The Shire Fellowship
		these Palantiri were used by the Men of old to see far off, and to converse in thought with one another In that way they long guarded and united the realm of Gondor.
		The Palantiri could not themselves survey men`s minds, at unawares or unwilling ; for the transference of thought depended on the wills of the user on either side, and thought (received as speech) was only transmittable by one Stone to another in accord.
		One of the qualities of the Palantiri was their ability to look back in time.
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	The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum - Hunt for the Palantíri Discussion Thread
		Marreth is an experienced captain of a sailing vessel whose most effective weapon is his ship and its armaments.
		For this reason, and because of Marreth’s bookish streak, Castamir appointed him to command the vessel that was traveling to the Ice Bay of Forochel to seek the lost palantiri of Amon Sûl and Annumínas.
		Luindal first explained how the Stones could be used to communicate thought and images over great distances, and even to twist and manipulate the mind of the speaker on the other end, duplicitous acts similar to what Sauron had already done.
	forum.barrowdowns.com /showthread.php?t=10988 (11909 words)

	Compilers and libraries on Palantiri (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
		The compiler suite on Palantiri is the GNU compiler.
		It is also possible to compile a program on Sauron and use it on Palantiri.
		In addition to the GNU libraries, a number of libraries are available on Palantiri.
	cfa-www.harvard.edu /itc/resources/palantiri/ar01s03.html (67 words)

	Palantiri - Gaming Source Network Forums (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
		The Palantiri should be accounted for, in the Mod I think.
		Amon Hen should be in the mod, as it was supposedly created before the third age, although Tolkien hasn't stated anywhere exactly when it was built..
		I think the Palantiri in Arnor (at Annuminas and Amon Sul) were lost in a shipwreck, along with one of the kings of Arnor.
	forum.gamingsource.net /index.php?showtopic=5373 (889 words)

	Palantir of Osgilath (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
		And Saruman's good with it anyway, because he can carry that around and use the abilities of the other Palantiri that you've sent other characters out to set up and use.
		This is extremely useful, even more so than Amon Sul's because it does it with all Palantiri and not just Annuminas (which is really good) and Elostirion (which is really bad).
		Otherwise all your efforts to bring out other Palantiri will be helping your opponent too, which sort of defeats the purpose of them (especially since they can often seriously harm the opponent, which becomes you if your opponent uses one of your Palantiri).
	www.trevorstone.org /metw/cotd/issues/93.html (500 words)

	The Palantiri quiz -- free game
		"Little is said about the Palantiri stones, but if you have read more carefully the "Lord of the Rings" and the "Unfinished Tales" you'll handle this quiz."
		There was a Palantiri at all of the three places
		True or false: The Palantir of Orthanc was brought there by Saruman.
	www.funtrivia.com /playquiz.cfm?qid=91919 (125 words)

	Peter, Pippin, and the Palantir -- The Lord Of The Rings -- Hollywood Jesus
		Of the latter Gandalf says, "Perilous to us all are the devices of an art deeper than we possess ourselves." And I must confess -- the art of film is clearly something beyond me. If it weren't, I'd be in Jackson's shoes, and not my own.
		For those more interested in the palantiri, the best resources are the chapter in the The Two Towers titled, "The Palantir;" "The Pyre of Denethor" in The Return of the King, and "The Palantiri" in Unfinished Tales.
		One of the most effective and gripping scenes in The Return of the King is Pippin's theft of the palantir.
	www.hollywoodjesus.com /lord_of_the_rings_feature_19.htm (1783 words)

	Palantiri history and timeline
		found it harder to use the palantiri as they were not legitimate users.
		Palantiri essay says it is notable that the master stone on Eressea is
		But the explanation for the lack of palantiri in 'The Silmarillion' is
	www.bookforumz.com /Palantii-histoy-timeline-ftopict31433.html (4144 words)

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