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	Ngo Dinh Thuc Pierre Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Thuc's brother, Ngô Đình Khoi, was buried alive because of his refusal to become a minister in the first communist government.
		It is alleged (by the Vezelis group in particular) that Archbishop Thuc was abducted by a group of Vietnamese priests while in New York and was taken to Missouri and hidden away from the contact of his friends.
		Archbishop Thuc promptly broke with Palmar de Troya - not because of Paul VI's objections, but rather because he came to conclude that the Palmarian movement was deviant and illegitimate, and that the apparitions were fraudulant.
	www.wikipedia.org /wiki/Ngo_Dinh_Thuc (960 words)

	Thuc_Consecrations
		Ngo was Titular Bishop of Saesina, 1938-60, Archbishop of Hué, Viet Nam, 1960-68, and Titular Archbishop of Bulla Regia, 1968-1984.
		Ngo's lineage includes the broadest conceivable spectrum of theologies likely ever to be held by men all claiming to possess valid "Catholic" priestly and episcopal orders that are derived from a single prelate alive in their lifetimes.
		Ngo to perform the ordinations and consecrations by convincing him that a bi-locating Pope Paul VI (the real, imprisoned, one, not the imposter) had appeared in Spain and approved the idea.
	www.tboyle.net /Catholicism/Thuc_Consecrations.html (7056 words)

	Moises Carmona
		On October 17, 1981, Father Carmona was consecrated bishop by the traditional Catholic Archbishop Peter Martin Ngo Dinh Thuc.
		Father Carmona continued as pastor of Divine Providence parish separated from the church establishment as a traditional Catholic declaring that the papacy was vacant and dismissed Pope Paul VI and his successors as antipopes.
	www.ebroadcast.com.au /lookup/encyclopedia/mo/Moises_Carmona.html (193 words)

	THE RESURRECTION OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH
		Thuc is probably the most enigmatic of the four bishops from whom all reliable episcopal consecrations of the Church in the future are derived.
		Thuc sent a letter shortly before his death warning against such a letter as this and stating that this "statement" was a forgery and that he was in fact actually remaining faithful to the Catholic Church despite his being deprived of needed medication.
		Thuc had quite another story: In Mexico, two priests, Adolfo Zamora Hernandez of Mexico City and Moises Carmona y Rivera of Acapulco had, on their own, embraced the position of sedevacantism and also came to believe that they should be made bishops in order to help rebuild the Church.
	www.the-pope.com /church08.html (7565 words)

	Encyclopedia: Ngo Dinh Diem
		Ngo Dinh Nhu Ngo Dinh Nhu was born in Vietnam, he was the younger brother and chief political advisor of South Vietnams first President Ngo Dinh Diem and their brother Bishop Thuc of Hue.
		Archbishop NgÃ´ ÄÃ¬nh Thuc Pierre Martin Archbishop NgÃ´ ÄÃ¬nh Thuc Pierre Martin (å´å»·ä¿¶) (approximately pronounced Ngoh Din Took) (October 6, 1897â€“December 13, 1984), Roman Catholic Archbishop of HuÃ©, Vietnam, was born in HuÃ©, on October 6, 1897, of Catholic parents.
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	www.nationmaster.com /encyclopedia/Ngo-Dinh-Diem (2873 words)

	Validity of Thuc Consecrations
		Thuc that the solution to the Church's problems were to be found in alleged "Marian apparitions" at Palmar de Troya, Spain, and he urged the Archbishop to consecrate bishops for the Palmar supporters, who wished to preserve the traditional Mass.
		Thuc, appointed by Pius XI and consecrated a bishop in 1938, founded the Diocese of Vinh-long and was named Archbishop of Hué in 1960.
		Thuc consecrated him on 7 May 1981, that "the consecration was valid," that "the traditional rite was followed integrally (except for the reading of a Roman mandate)," and that "Abp.
	www.catholicrestoration.org /library/thucvalidity.htm (8860 words)

	Society of St. Pius X - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Donald J. Sanborn, who were later consecrated as bishops through the episcopal lineage of Archbishop Ngô Ðình Thuc Pierre Martin.
		The SSPX leadership indicated their distrust, saying Castrillón was vague on how this would be implemented and supported, and citing what they called objectionable Vatican dealings with the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP) [9] and on the 1988 consecrations.
		They demanded two preliminary "acts of good faith" before continuing negotiations: that the Holy See officially declare that every Catholic priest has always been able to celebrate the Tridentine Mass and cannot be forbidden from doing so; and, secondly, that it declare null its declaration that the 1988 consecrations had resulted in excommunication.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Society_of_St._Pius_X (2490 words)

	The Bishop Speaks, February 1998 Seraph Vol. XVIII No. 6
		It was Archbishop Ngo who was the first to have the courage of his convictions in declaring publicly that the See of Peter was vacant, that is, occupied by an imposter.
		And, because the great sacrifice made by Archbishop Ngo to preserve the Church in Her sacred hierarchy is a prime target of the devil and his followers, it is our determination to remain faithful to his efforts to preserve the apostolic succession within the true Church, without succumbing to the left or to the right.
		As a chosen part of the apostate Church, former Jesuit, Malachi Martin hypocritically labels obedient Catholics as `disobedient' while he and his kind pretend to be `obedient' to an authority which, in practice, neither he nor his kind obey.
	friarsminor.org /xviii6-8.html (2896 words)

	TheModern Anti-Popes
		December 1975 proved to be a busy time for Gomez as he was ordained in thae same month by the wayward Catholic Archbishop, Peter Martin Ngo-Dinh-Thuc.
		In January the following year Ngo-Dinh-Thuc consecrated Gomez (along with several of his followers).
		Another Peter II is Pierre Henri Bubois of Brussels, another still is the German Julius Tischler and yet another is Maurice Achieri of Le Perreux, France who became an anti-Pope in 1995.
	www.angelfire.com /weird2/obscure2/anti-pope.html (1546 words)

	Peter Malkin - Encyclopedia Glossary Meaning Explanation Peter Malkin
		Peter Zvi Malkin (his Hebrew name is צביקה מלחין, Tzvika Malkhin), (May 27 1927-March 1 2005), was an Israeli secret agent, and member of the Mossad intelligence agency.
		After retiring in 1976, Peter Malkin devoted his time to painting, a profession he used as a cover during his Mossad years.
		Peter Malkin - Encyclopedia Glossary Meaning Explanation Peter Malkin.
	www.encyclopedia-glossary.com /en/Peter-Malkin.html (426 words)

	CATHOLIC - A News, Informational, and Educational, Ecclesiastical Journal Dedicated to Preserving the Authentic Apostolic Tradition of the Catholic Church
		Peter Martin NGO DINH THUC was the victim of persecution (1); and that, contrary to general opinion, he never ceased to be a witness to the Faith (II).
		Peter Martin, Ngo-Dinh-Thuc, a highly respected member of the hierarchy in the Church during the reigns of Pius XI and Pius XII and a witness to the persecution of the Faith during the times of Paul VI and Wojtyla.
		Thuc illegally Consecrated and ordained in such an open manner, shows that he clearly wished to do so; his instinct for the Faith and his observation of the "machinations" accomplished during the course of Vatican II gave him a clairvoyance with regard to the state of the Church.
	catholic.shrineofsaintjude.net /homec081.html (6517 words)

	Pope Pius XIII - Papal Judgment on Thuc Orders
		Peter was married, and yet we read nothing in scripture or tradition that tells us that he ever lived with his wife after becoming a bishop and the Vicar of Christ.
		Thuc was in a Monastery in New York State We were told that the members of the Monastery would not let phone callers, even priests, talk with Msgr.
		Thuc descendants, at the present time, are without the mental and moral training to perform in the Orders that they now possess.
	www.truecatholic.org /pope/thucorders.htm (1368 words)

	Peter Mansfield - Encyclopedia Glossary Meaning Explanation Peter Mansfield
		Sir Peter Mansfield FRS, (born October 9, 1933), is a British physicist who was awarded the 2003 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his discoveries concerning magnetic resonance imaging (MRI).
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	www.encyclopedia-glossary.com /en/Peter-Mansfield.html (301 words)

	thucdate.htm
		Thuc was consecrated Titular Bishop of Saesina; a Bishop of Hue 1938-60 [ 1]
		Clemente Ferdinand Dominguez Gómez consecrated bishop by Thuc.
		After all, Thuc DID accept the fact of his first excommunication as evidenced by his “reconciliation” in 1976.
	jloughnan.tripod.com /thucdate.htm (1749 words)

	archbishop Thuc excommunicated
		Thuc most definitely exhibited some of these symptoms." He goes on to inform us that "considered alone they mean little, but when taken as a whole they are compelling proof that he [Msgr.
		Archbishop Thuc comes from a once prominent Vietnamese family which was politically powerful in South Vietnam during the early years after the 1954 split of the country into North and South.
		It is suggested without any evidence whatsoever, that Archbishop Thuc suffered from loss of "short term memory." Technically, this means not the forgetting of what one ate for breakfast or where one misplaced one's glasses, but the inability to remember three items at five minutes on a mental status exam.
	www.giaodiem.com /FotoNews/Thuc_excom.htm (2208 words)

	The Sedevacantists - An outline of their origins and activities
		Peter was appointed by Our Lord to be the visible head of the Church on earth.
		Archbishop Pierre Martin has made just such a declaration on February 25, 1982, and states that the Holy See is vacant.
		The Pope could hardly be said to have lost his office simply because one layman, one priest, one bishop, or even one Cardinal, declared that he had lost his office.
	www.sspx.ca /Angelus/1983_February/Sedevacantists.htm (2367 words)

	In Today's Catholic World
		Thuc was completely in his right mind, and that he observed the rite of ordination perfectly.
		What interests us about Archbishop Thuc, then, is not his sins or poor judgement, but (1) the fact that he performed these consecrations, (2) the fact that he used the traditional rite, (3) the fact that he was in his right mind.
		Thuc stayed in 1983 and 1984, also attested to the fact that even at that time, shortly before his death in 1984, Abp.
	www.todayscatholicworld.com /sept05tcw.htm (16057 words)

	Principles for priests
		To usurp authority which belongs to the papacy is to set up one’s own church; and therefore even a priest who has not been ordained by one of Thuc’s bishops goes into schism the moment he submits to his authority; and the Faithful may not receive the sacraments from schismatics.
		It is difficult to think of more disastrously erroneous doctrine than that the See of Peter is validly occupied by John Paul II, who could not unfairly be described as the personification of the very synthesis of the erroneous doctrines pervading our era.
		[51] The list of the crimes that Thuc has committed against the Church and against God is a long one, and we shall mention merely some of the more horrifying ones.
	www.mtintouch.net /~nlight/priests.htm (2835 words)

	The Thuc Problem
		Hagen, she states that in 1960, Bishop Thuc was raised to that of Archbishop under the apostate John XXIII; and again in 1968 Thuc was transferred to the titular Archbishopric of Bulla Regis under the reign of the apostate Paul VI.
		When I write to the Thuc apologists I get no answer, but they in turn denigrate the valid election of 1998 which we can prove is what God had waited to install after the last 40 years of darkness.
		All this was the result of Bishop Thuc’s ordination and consecration without mandate and in violation of all Catholic sacramental ordinances.
	www.truecatholic.org /gb/gb-199907-thucprob.htm (1902 words)

	Carmelite Order of the Holy Face
		In the January 1976 some of prophets were consecrated bishops by a famous roman catholic bishop, Peter Martin Ngo dinh Thuc (1897-1984) from South Vietnam.
		Ngo dinh Thuc was the first one from a countless group of people used by Dominguez and Corral.
		Ngo, who moved to Toulon in France and cut all his connections with them.
	www.wandea.org.pl /carmelite-order.html (1844 words)

	ibio2.htm
		He is Archbishop Peter Martin Ngo-Dinh-Thuc, and is come from Rome to carry out a transcendental mission.
		Archbishop Peter Martin returns to Rome and is no longer allowed to enter Spain.
		Clemente, Primate of the Church: "You shall be the Peter to come, the Pope who will consolidate the Faith and the Church in her integrity, who shall battle against heresy with great power, for legions of An gels shall assist you...
	www.geocities.com /Area51/Lair/7170/ibio2.htm (1782 words)

	CNS STORY: Timeline of principal doctrinal decisions, documents, 1981-2005
		-- March 12, 1983: Notification reaffirming the excommunication of traditionalist Archbishop Pierre Martin Ngo Dinh Thuc, formerly of Hue, Vietnam, and his accomplices for the illicit ordination of priests and bishops.
	www.catholicnews.com /data/stories/cns/0502666.htm (1766 words)

	FORTES IN FIDE Files
		In this pamphlet, he expresses a rather harsh opinion of the episcopal opinions of Archbishop Ngo Dinh Thuc, which he would soften later (see "fif3-12.zip" below).
		Peter Morgan of England, "Catholics, beware!" by Fr.
		Articles include "Always Be Ready to Satisfy Everyone Who Asks You to Explain That Hope Which Is in You" (I Peter III:15), an editorial by Fr.
	www.the-pope.com /fif.html (1407 words)

	The Most Reverend Terence R Fulham
		In truth it must be admitted that almost everybody who has written an article in favor of Thuc began their career denying Thuc.
		The response was immediate and overwhelming: the verdict is already in – Thuc is valid case closed.
		However, I did not say all the “Thuc” bishops and priests are invalid – but I believe it to be so based on evidence that no-one has yet seen.
	www.olfatima.com /four_legs_good.htm (938 words)

	sep15bks.htm
		In order to diffuse this sophism, he proceeds to trace the lineage and trials and travails, and yes triumphs, of the beleaguered Archbishop Pierre Martin Ngo Dinh Thuc.
		Jerusalem had abandoned the Faith, with the Jews cooperating with the pagan Romans to crucify their Messiah, and even Peter himself running for his life, and denying his Lord.
		Under the Christian covenant it continued there in Jerusalem until Peter took his See to Antioch, and then later to Rome.
	www.dailycatholic.org /issue/04Sep/sep15bks.htm (2355 words)

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	Immaculate Heart Of Mary -- Recommendations and Resources
		In the same year, the Rule was approved by Bishop Robert McKenna, O.P., whose episcopal lineage can be traced back to Archbishop Peter Martin Ngo-Dinh-Thuc, who would later be excommunicated for consecrating four bishops in Palmar de Troya, Spain without the Vatican's permission.
		In 1989, the Reverend Mark Pivarunas was elected Superior General of the Congregation.
		In 1986, the Congregation held its first General Chapter establishing a formal set of Rules and Constitutions.
	www.becomingapediatrician.com /health/78/immaculate-heart-of-mary.html (862 words)

	traditionalmass.org Articles: Thuc, Abp. Traditional Latin Mass Resources
		"We, Peter Martin Ngô-dinh-Thuc, Titular Archbishop of Bulla Regia, give notice of the following to all: on the 17th day of the month of October, in the year 1981, we conferred the episcopal rank of the Catholic Church on Father Moses Carmona Rivera, with all rights pertaining to said rank.
		Translation of handwritten certificate issued by Archbishop Thuc
	traditionalmass.org /articles/article.php?id=52&catname=13 (121 words)

	Corona Spinarum
		February 25, 1982 Munich +Peter Martin Ngo-dinh-Thuc Archbishop
	www.vaticaninexile.homestead.com /files/Corona_Spinarum.htm (415 words)

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