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	Plato on Rhetoric and Poetry (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
		Plato certainly thought that matters of the greatest importance hang in the balance, as is clear from the famous statement that “there is an old quarrel between philosophy and poetry” (Rep.
		Plato has in his sights all of “poetry,” contending that its influence is pervasive and often harmful, and that its premises about nature and the divine are mistaken.
		The questions are complicated by the fact that Plato was not (or, not primarily) thinking of poetry as a written text read in silence; he had in mind recitations or performances, often experienced in the context of theater.
	plato.stanford.edu /entries/plato-rhetoric (0 words)

	Phaedrus (Plato) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		The Phaedrus, written by Plato, is a dialogue between Plato's main protagonist, Socrates, and Phaedrus, an interlocutor in several dialogues.
		The Phaedrus was presumably composed around 370 BC, around the same time as Plato's Republic and Symposium; with those two texts, it is often considered one of Plato's literary high points.
		The dialogue begins with a series of speeches on love; the second half consists of discussion on the nature and proper practice of love and rhetoric, encompassing discussions of the soul, madness and divine inspiration, and the practice and mastery of an art.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Phaedrus_(dialogue) (4339 words)

	Phaedrus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Phaedrus (15 BC – AD 50), Roman fabulist, was by birth a Macedonian and lived in the reigns of Augustus, Tiberius, Gaius and Claudius.
		The dates of their publication are unknown, but Seneca, writing between AD 41 and 43, knows nothing of Phaedrus, and it is probable that he had not yet published anything.
		From a literary point of view Phaedrus is inferior to Babrius, and to his own modern imitator, La Fontaine; he lacks the quiet picturesqueness and pathos of the former, and the exuberant vivacity and humour of the latter.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Phaedrus (1150 words)

	Rational Madness: Philosophic Mania in Plato's Phaedrus
		Plato specifies that erotic mania occurs when one is reminded of beauty itself by earthly beauties; it is the lover's attraction to the forms, not his infatuation with the boy, which brings upon him the charge that he is mad.
		At the same time, it is clear that Plato does not take his treatment of philosophic mania in the Phaedrus to pose a difficulty: he praises it as the best form of divine inspiration (249e), and presents Socrates as increasingly inspired throughout his speech.
		Plato calls poetic mania a possession from the muses, when they seize the poet's soul (245a); the philosophic lover, too, is no longer within himself, but is struck from his senses and divinely inspired (250a).
	www.apaclassics.org /AnnualMeeting/05mtg/abstracts/Obdrzalek.html (720 words)

	Plato: Phaedrus (Site not responding. Last check: )
		Plato's Phaedrus is a rich and enigmatic text that treats a range of important philosophical issues, including metaphysics, the philosophy of love, and the relation of language to reality, especially in regard to the practices of rhetoric and writing.
		Readers should be aware, however, that the positions outlined in the dialogue represent Plato's thought as much as that of his teacher and have become part of the philosophical tradition called Platonism.
		Derrida criticizes Plato's idealist insistance that our ideas have their origins in a transcendent realm of perfect Forms, available only to reason (logos in Greek) as logocentrism; he calls Socrates's assumption of an essential link between the meaning of a speaker's words and the speaker's physical voice (phonos in Greek) phonocentrism.
	maven.english.hawaii.edu /criticalink/plato/index.html (637 words)

	It is well known that Plato, a devoted student of Socrates, chronicled many of Socrates’ speeches and conversations
		Phaedrus is taken in by the thought of making love (the physical act of sex) with someone who does not pursue you (as Lysias said).
		This is in stark contrast to the Phaedrus of the Phaedrus.
		Phaedrus seems to pick up on these advances and is intrigued by the speech, he then decides to read it all over and tell Socrates all about it.
	www.acad.carleton.edu /curricular/CLAS/courses/CL114/special/Harris.htm (1304 words)

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		Thus far we may believe that Plato was serious in his conception of the soul as a motive power, in his reminiscence of a former state of being, in his elevation of the reason over sense and passion, and perhaps in his doctrine of transmigration.
		Plato, with his great knowledge of human nature, was well aware how easily one is transformed into the other, or how soon the noble but fleeting aspiration may return into the nature of the animal, while the lower instinct which is latent always remains.
		PHAEDRUS: My tale, Socrates, is one of your sort, for love was the theme which occupied us--love after a fashion: Lysias has been writing about a fair youth who was being tempted, but not by a lover; and this was the point: he ingeniously proved that the non-lover should be accepted rather than the lover.
	www.gutenberg.org /dirs/etext99/phdrs10.txt (18313 words)

	20th WCP: Rhetoric, Paideia and the Phaedrus
		We recall that Phaedrus' response to the Palinode is 'principally aesthetic,...
		Socrates' effort succeeds in unchaining Phaedrus from his fixation on Lysias but, as Rutherford notes, the latter's response is couched in terms of admiration of the fineness of the speech rather than of its perfectionist aspirations.
		The comments Phaedrus finds so extraordinary are those that concern the conditions for learning; when later Socrates insists on the importance of the intellectual environment for 'living speech' one remembers both Phaedrus' earlier incomprehension and the inappropriateness of his aestheticising response to Socrates' second speech; perhaps the two go together.
	www.bu.edu /wcp/Papers/Lite/LiteWarn.htm (1550 words)

	Phaedrus - Plato
		PHAEDRUS: I am fortunate in not having my sandals, and as you never have any, I think that we may go along the brook and cool our feet in the water; this will be the easiest way, and at midday and in the summer is far from being unpleasant.
		PHAEDRUS: Indeed, you are pleased to be merry.
		PHAEDRUS: They would say in reply that he is a madman or a pedant who fancies that he is a physician because he has read something in a book, or has stumbled on a prescription or two, although he has no real understanding of the art of medicine.
	books.mirror.org /plato/phaedrus (0 words)

	The Internet Classics Archive \| Phaedrus by Plato
		And this I owe to you, Phaedrus, for I observed you while reading to be in an ecstasy, and thinking that you are more experienced in these matters than I am, I followed your example, and, like you, my divine darling, I became inspired with a phrenzy.
		Your love of discourse, Phaedrus, is superhuman, simply marvellous, and I do not believe that there is any one of your contemporaries who has either made or in one way or another has compelled others to make an equal number of speeches.
		Only think, my good Phaedrus, what an utter want of delicacy was shown in the two discourses; I mean, in my own and in that which you recited out of the book.
	classics.mit.edu /Plato/phaedrus.html (0 words)

	Plato and his dialogues: a list of Plato's works
		Plato and his dialogues : Home - Biography - Works and links to them - History of interpretation - New hypotheses - Map of dialogues : table version or non tabular version.
		A complete alphabetical list of all works by or attributed to Plato may be found at the end of note 3 in the contents description of the latest complete edition of their English translation (Hackett, 1997), or on the page of this site that provides links to Plato's works on the Web.
		Lastly, readers wishing to put Plato's dialogues in context with regard to the litterary and historical activity of his time will find in the bibliography on and around Plato available elsewhere on this site bibliographical indications on works whose reading may shed light on the dialogues.
	plato-dialogues.org /works.htm (0 words)

	Plato, Phaedrus ToC: The Online Library of Liberty (Site not responding. Last check: )
		Plato used his teaching Academy to spread his ideas on moral philosophy, epistemology, and political theory which came to exert a profound influence on western philosophy for centuries afterwards.
		Thus far we may believe that Plato was serious in his conception of the soul as a motive power, in his reminiscence of a former state of being, in his elevation of the reason over sense and passion, and perhaps in his doctrine of transmigration.
		Plato, with his great knowledge of human nature, was well aware how easily one is transformed into the other, or how soon the noble but fleeting aspiration may return into the nature of the animal, while the lower instinct which is latent always remains.
	oll.libertyfund.org /Home3/HTML.php?recordID=0295 (15194 words)

	Phaedrus - Seth Warren: The pharmakon and the Phaedrus
		Phaedrus - Seth Warren: The pharmakon and the Phaedrus
		Phaedrus is a sleek charter yacht that embraces luxury on an intimate scale - Virgin Islands or the Grenadines as your destination.
		Phaedrus Estate was established at the end of 1997, just as the owners/ The wines made under the Phaedrus label have been available in various Melbourne
	newinfoseek.com /nwis/phaedrus.html (352 words)

	Plato - Phaedrus Plato
		Plato The Allegory Of The Cave From The Republic
		Plato the Platypus and his buddies make the transition from college to careers but can't quite get the hang of it. By Alexis Fajardo.
		Discusses Plato and Freud's description of the soul (psyche) in terms of an internal conflict for authority over the individual. Elaborates this into an understanding of internal politics.
	www.platon.org /phaedrusplato (1673 words)

	Plato, from The Phaedrus
		Plato, The Phaedrus – a dialogue between Socrates and Phaedrus written down by the pupil of Socrates, Plato, in approximately 370 BC.
		I cannot help feeling, Phaedrus, that writing is unfortunately like painting; for the creations of the painter have the attitude of life, and yet if you ask them a question they preserve a solemn silence.
		He will rejoice in beholding their tender growth; and while others are refreshing their souls with banqueting and the like, this will be the pastime in which his days are spent.
	www.units.muohio.edu /technologyandhumanities/plato.htm (986 words)

	Ancient Greek Online library \| Plato
		Plato was born in Athens in May or December around 427 BC.
		Plato became a pupil of Socrates in his youth, and—at least according to his own account—he attended his master's trial, though not his execution.
		When he was 40 years old, Plato founded one of the earliest known organized schools in Western civilization on a plot of land in the Grove of Academe.
	www.greektexts.com /library/Plato (0 words)

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	evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com /academy_contents.htm (0 words)

	Plato: Phaedrus
		And so it is with written words; you might think they spoke as if they had intelligence, but if you question them, wishing to know about their sayings, they always say only one and the same thing.
		Phaedrus: You mean the living and breathing word of him who knows, of which the written word may justly be called the image.
		Phaedrus: A noble pastime, Socrates, and a contrast to those base pleasures, the pastime of the man who can find amusement in discourse, telling stories about justice, and the other subjects of which you speak.
	www.freeranger.com /chris/MM7.htm (760 words)

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		Come out, fair children, and convince Phaedrus, who is the father of similar beauties, that he will never be able to speak about anything as he ought to speak unless he have a knowledge of philosophy.
		I cannot help feeling, Phaedrus, that writing is unfortunately like painting; for the creations of the painter have the attitude of life, and yet if you ask them a question they preserve a solemn silence.
		About Lysias, whom we censured, and his art of writing, and his discourses, and the rhetorical skill or want of skill which was shown in them-these are the questions which we sought to determine, and they brought us to this point.
	philosophy.eserver.org /plato/phaedrus.txt (12855 words)

	Phaedrus - Plato - Penguin Group (USA)
		One of Plato’s most profound and beautiful works, Phaedrus takes the form of a dialogue between Socrates and Phaedrus, an amateur rhetorical enthusiast, on the topic of passionate or romantic love.
		Concerned with establishing principles of rhetoric, it argues that rhetoric is only acceptable as an art when it is firmly based on the truth inspired by love, the common experience of true philosophic activity.
		It is in this dialogue that Plato employs the famous image of love as the driver of the chariot of souls.
	us.penguingroup.com /nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,0_9780140449747,00.html (134 words)

	Amazon.com: Phaedrus: Books: Plato,Alexander Nehamas,Paul Woodruff (Site not responding. Last check: )
		Featuring some of Plato's most soaringly lyrical passages, the Phaedrus investigates the soul's erotic longing and its relationship to the whole cosmos, as well as inquiring into the nature of rhetoric and the problem of writing.
		Plato's striking variety in conversational address (names and various terms of relative warmth and coolness) is carefully reproduced, as is alteration in tone and implication even in the short responses.
		Nichols believes that Plato's thought on rhetoric has been largely misunderstood, and he uses his translation as an opportunity to reconstruct the classical position on right relations between thought and public activity.
	www.amazon.com /Phaedrus-Plato/dp/0872202216 (1502 words)

	Oxford University Press: Phaedrus: Plato
		Phaedrus is widely recognized as one of Plato's most profound and beautiful works.
		It takes the form of a dialogue between Socrates and Phaedrus and its ostensible subject is love, especially homoerotic love.
		Socrates reveals it to be a kind of divine madness that can allow our souls to grow wings and soar to their greatest heights.
	www.oup.com /us/catalog/general/subject/ClassicalStudies/AncientPhilosophy/~~/c2Y9YWxsJnNzPWF1dGhvciZzZD1hc2MmcGY9MTcwJnZpZXc9dXNhJnByPTEwJmJvb2tDb3ZlcnM9bnVsbCZjaT0wMTkyODAyNzcx (293 words)

	Harvard University Press: Euthyphro. Apology. Crito. Phaedo. Phaedrus by Plato
		Plato, the great philosopher of Athens, was born in 427 BCE.
		Much else recorded of his life is uncertain; that he left Athens for a time after Socrates' execution is probable; that later he went to Cyrene, Egypt, and Sicily is possible; that he was wealthy is likely; that he was critical of 'advanced' democracy is obvious.
		Unfinished also is Plato's last work of the twelve books of Laws (Socrates is absent from it), a critical discussion of principles of law which Plato thought the Greeks might accept.
	www.hup.harvard.edu /catalog/L036.html (375 words)

	Amazon.com: Plato's Phaedrus: Books: Plato,R. Hackforth (Site not responding. Last check: )
		Plato's Symposium: A Translation by Seth Benardete with Commentaries by Allan Bloom and Seth Benardete by Plato
		Although it is impossible, and likely to remain impossible, to assign a precise date to the composition of the Phaedrus, or even to fix with complete certainty its position in the order of dialogues, there has been an increasing tendency during the present century to consider it a relatively late work.
		Plato wrote the Phaedrus for a fifth century BC audience but we as modern readers are no longer familiar with the culture, language, mores, religion, and values of that period.
	www.amazon.com /Platos-Phaedrus-Plato/dp/0521097037 (1183 words)

	Presidential Lectures: Alexander Nehamas: Phaedrus
		While general interest in Plato dwindled, the strong tendency in 18th century Britain to link schooling and scholarship with the Classics did result in more English translations of Plato, and approximately twenty Platonic dialogues were translated by different scholars over the course of the century.
		Unlike a number of Plato's other works, it is a conversation between two and only two people...
		[Phaedrus] thinks that life would be unbearable without the pleasures of philosophical conversation [but] it is not clear that he understands the profound effect that philosophical ideas can have on one's life.
	prelectur.stanford.edu /lecturers/nehamas/phaedrus.html (1285 words)

	Plato: The Phaedrus
		Socrates meets Protagoras as the latter is heading out from the house of for an afternoon walk.
		Phaedrus has a speech of Lysias in his head, which he has been practicing.
		G.J. de Vries, A Commentary on the Phaedrus Plato (Amsterdam 1969).
	www.csun.edu /~hcfll004/Phaedrus-outline.html (619 words)

	Symposium and Phaedrus, Plato - Timeline Index
		It has been said that, after the Bible, Plato's dialogues are the most influential books in Western culture.
		Dramatizing a party in fifth-century B.C. Athens, the deceptively unassuming Symposium introduces--in the guise of convivial after-dinner conversation--profound ideas about the nature of love.
		After living for a time at the Syracuse court, Plato founded near Athens the most influential school of the ancient...
	www.timelineindex.com /content/view/969 (139 words)

	Phaedrus by Plato
		He has said his say and is preparing to go away.
		Phaedrus begs him to remain, at any rate until the heat of noon has passed; he would like to have a little more conversation before they go.
		Socrates, who has risen, recognizes the oracular sign which forbids him to depart until he has done penance.
	manybooks.net /print/platoetext99phdrs10.html (127 words)

	5.plato.phaedrus.htm (Site not responding. Last check: )
		In Phaedrus we see Socrates engage in the process known as psychagogia, or soul leading.
		Answer it for the individual Phaedrus, for him as a man, for him as an example of a human, etc...
		Name three important elements of dialogue (as a method) that have emerged in your reading of Phaedrus.
	www2.smumn.edu /facpages/~jtadie/5_plato_phaedrus.htm (496 words)

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