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	Platonic love - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Platonic love in its modern popular sense is an affectionate relationship into which the sexual element does not enter, especially in cases where one might easily assume otherwise.
		At the same time, this interpretation is a misunderstanding of the nature of the Platonic ideal of love, which from its origin was that of a chaste but passionate love, based not on uninterest but virtuous restraint.
		The understanding that Platonic love could be interpreted as masculine eros, albeit unconsummated, is intimately linked with the construction of a homosexual identity, and the cultural model of platonic friendship / pederasty was used by educated gay men since the early Renaissance.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Platonic_love (660 words)

	Plato’s theory of Love: Rationality as Passion
		Love is a remedy for an ancient wound inflicted on us by the gods, who divided us in two as a punishment for our arrogance.
		But although all things love, and all men are in some sense lovers, few recognise the object of their love, that which motivates their striving, that which underlies their every desire, that which will ensure ‘perpetual possession’.
		Plato’s view of love as love of immortality, and love of immortality as the key to parental love can be helpful in discussing parental love, its ambitions, its shortcomings, especially the feasibility of its ideal unconditionality.
	members.aol.com /PracticalPhilo/Volume4Articles/PlatoTheoryOfLove.htm (6469 words)

	Renaissance Neo-Platonism (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
		In addition, Platonism never really faded out of the Western tradition nor was the Italian Renaissance a rediscovery of Plato; rather, the Italian Renaissance forged new philosophies from Plato and the Platonic tradition in antiquity and the Middle Ages.
		Ficino did not condemn sexuality or erotics nor deny that Platonic love was only possible outside sexual relations; his only concern was the nature of the spiritual bond between two people.
		The language of Platonic love, however, gave the Italians a language with which to define non-sexual male-male relationships.
	www.wsu.edu:8080 /~dee/REN/NEOPLATO.HTM (2801 words)

	John Addington Symonds:
		Platonic love, in the true sense of that phrase, was the affection of a man for a man; and it grew out of antecedent customs which had obtained from very distant times in Hellas.
		Love, like poetry and prophecy, is a divine gift, which diverts men from the common current of their earthly lives; and in the right use of this gift lies the secret of all human excellence.
		Accordingly the Platonic conception of Greek love soon revealed its unsubstantiality, whereas the Dantesque conception of feudal love allied itself to the symbolising tendencies of the age in art and letters, and to the hazy webweavings of contemporary science.
	www.fordham.edu /halsall/pwh/symonds-dante.html (5669 words)

	20th WCP: Loving Persons
		Whereas the acquisitive objection holds that Plato’s account of love is determined by possession of the object of love and thus incompatible with loving another for his/her own sake, the egocentric objection pushes this criticism somewhat further by claiming that the motivation and activities of all Platonic love is focused on the self.
		Love, however, includes desire both in terms of setting on an object to be loved and in terms of desiring to "give" or "procreate" in the presence of the Good/Beautiful.
		Love is the name of a relation which is characterised partly in terms of desire, but includes active valuation and recognition.
	www.bu.edu /wcp/Papers/Anci/AnciMoon.htm (7052 words)

	Chicken or the Egg: Platonic Love - Revisited
		When I wrote my views about that subject, I was undecided whether platonic love truly exists, or if it can only be present in the absence of physical attraction, and if it is considered as a last resort when circumstances prevent either party from pursuing a relationship.
		Platonic love is defined as "an affectionate relationship into which the sexual element does not enter, especially in cases where one might easily assume otherwise." Otherwise stated, platonic love is devoid of any physical attraction or sexual interest.
		Nevertheless, many use the term platonic love when there is a marked degree of hidden sexual attraction, and either party cannot pursue it, for one good reason or another.
	chickybaberules.blogspot.com /2005/11/platonic-love-revisited.html (2566 words)

	Neoplatonism in Spenser's Poetry (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
		...the new philosophy of love in its inception and original spirit ran contrary to the earlier romantic devotion to one’s lady in courtly love and the later romantic ideal of married love.
		The birth of love in the lover’s soul was ascribed to reminiscence.
		Love in the Garden of Adonis has been shown to be the natural instinct, innocent so far as it is indulged in a sinless Eden, or within the sinless bonds of marriage.
	phoenixandturtle.net /excerptmill/Ellrodt2.htm (7268 words)

	Modern Man Forums - "Platonic love" (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
		Further the critic pointed out that as the book is nearly 50 years old this platonic love is often confused with a homoerotic subtext.
		In addition, he contends that the emergence of and acceptance of homosexuality has put a damper on platonic love between two men lest it be misconstrued as something else.
		The short answer for me would be that platonic love would hold a higher element of caring about the person and their welfare, rather than just liking (even really liking) to spend time with them.
	www.modernman.com /forums/DCForumID17/202.html (740 words)

	ipedia.com: Platonic love Article (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
		Platonic love is a term commonly applied to an affectionate relationship into which the sexual element does not enter, especially in cases where one might easily assume otherwise.
		The term amor platonicus was used as early as the 15th Century by Marsilio Ficino, as a synonym for "amor socraticus," referring to the affection which between Socrates and his pupils.
		"Platonic Love is a fool's name for the affection between a disability and a frost." - Ambrose Bierce
	www.ipedia.com /platonic_love.html (191 words)

	lovetheatre
		Love is supposed to include a desire for the loved one's happiness; yet a dose of jealousy is considered standard equipment in any love affair, and typically the lover desires the loved one's happiness only insofar as the lover has caused it.
		The phenomenological mark of love is this: Love is the acute consciousness of the impossibility of possession.
		The theater of love presents a consensual simulation of love, rooted in the awareness of its own ephemeral character and heightened by sensual pleasure, in which the unrepeatability of the episode figures the irreplaceability of the historical individual.
	www.chass.utoronto.ca /~sousa/lovetheatre.html (6365 words)

	Platonic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Look up Platonic in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
		Plato's influence on Western culture was so profound that several different concepts are linked by being called "platonic" or Platonist, for accepting some assumptions of Platonism, but which do not imply acceptance of that philosophy as a whole.
		Platonic love, a relationship that is not sexual in nature
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Platonic (174 words)

	Chicken or the Egg: Platonic Love
		Personally, I have platonic relationships with women who are “conventionally attractive”, but I feel nothing for them.
		I mean, the women I have platonic relationships with haven’t been based upon being a “last resort”… we just have “a” relationship that we both understand.
		I think we use the term "platonic" to denote situations where we have undeclared feelings for someone, but those feelings are hardly pure friendship if we're attracted to the person.
	chickybaberules.blogspot.com /2005/05/platonic-love.html (2679 words)

	Platonic Love (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
		One of the most important anf famous theories of love in Western literature is the cluster of ideas that Diotima conveys to Socrates at the highpoint of Plato's Symposium.
		This desire is not only the openly sexual kind (what is usually called "love"), but also the desire of riches, the artist's desire of beautiful works, or the philosopher's love of wisdom.
		The most admirable lovers are those who move from the love of the physical and individual to the love of the intellectual and general.
	faculty.frostburg.edu /phil/forum/Love.htm (340 words)

	Love and Friendship Poems
		Platonic love is very much a part of any close friendship.
		Poems About Teen Love A subcategory of Love Poems, this category deals with the very real joys and pains of discovering love as a teen, often for the first time.
		Love Poems For Two A subcategory of Love Poems, this section includes erotic poems of a more adult nature.
	www.netpoets.com /poems/lovers (679 words)

	SIDNEY (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
		Notice how the "thought" of the poem progresses through three units of four lines each, but the poem is orgainized as an octave (abba abba) and a sestet in the Italian manner..
		The moon is a symbol of chastity, supposedly immune to the powers of love (Cupid with his arrows).
		If Love can't lay claim to Stella's virtuous self, then the lover's pursuit of Stella seems to be stopped (the objection/"demur" stops/"stay"(s) the courtship.
	campus.queens.edu /depts/english/sidney.htm (1176 words)

	Platonic Love (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
		Eryximachus 185e-188e: Love is a force in the cosmos (à la Empedocles).
		Aristophanes 189a-193d: Love is the desire to have wholeness restored.
		Socrates 201d-212c: (From Diotima): Love is the desire to procreate in beauty.
	www.uh.edu /~cfreelan/courses/platoniclove.html (381 words)

	qdaqh
		Love of the Aegean Sea portrays one of the most bittersweet types of love — the unrequited, one-sided love often known as “Platonic Love.” I had always thought that when a relationship’s “platonic,” it just means it is based on a sincere friendship.
		According to this series, however, “platonic love” is probably the highest and most tragic form of love, because it involves caring and loving a person from a distance, never expecting anything in return and never revealing one’s true feelings.
		Aside from all the Greek-themed plot points (the platonic love triangles, the “Plato’s Eternity” bracelet, the “evil eye” keychain, and the absolutely gorgeous scenic shots), QDAQH is essentially about the struggles one star-crossed couple suffers in order to be together.
	www.geocities.com /avcorner2000/qdaqh.html (1689 words)

	Platonic. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000. (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
		Plato did not invent the term or the concept that bears his name, but he did see sexual desire as the germ for higher loves.
		Marsilio Ficino, a Renaissance follower of Plato, used the terms amor socraticus and amor platonicus interchangeably for a love between two humans that was preparatory for the love of God.
		From Ficino's usage, Platonic (already present in English as an adjective to describe what related to Plato and first recorded in 1533) came to be used for a spiritual love between persons of opposite sexes.
	www.bartleby.com /61/14/P0361400.html (241 words)

	MavTalk 2.0: Platonic Friends
		Thus, true to Lenore's breakdown, a Platonic Love (friendship) between potential mates is meant to be the foundation of True Love (Love of God...
		Platonic relationships as all relationships have their ups/downs, on/off agains, but they end on Earth one way or another as all friendships do.
		This categorization seperates the love interests from the friendships interests and once that man is classified as a friend, he loses a lot of the appeal and allure of what a present (or new) love interest provides for them.
	www.mavtalk.com /cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=001388 (4825 words)

	Plato [Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy]
		Platonic dialogues continue to be included among the required readings in introductory and advanced philosophy classes, not only for their ready accessibility, but also because they raise many of the most basic problems of philosophy.
		Also in that dialogue, we are told of the "ladder of love," by which the lover can ascend to direct cognitive contact with (usually compared to a kind of vision of) Beauty Itself.
		In the Phaedrus, love is revealed to be the great "divine madness" through which the wings of the lover's soul may sprout, allowing the lover to take flight to all of the highest aspirations and achievements possible for humankind.
	www.utm.edu /research/iep/p/plato.htm (7918 words)

	Another Theory on "Platonic" - Kindred Spirits
		This I know might sound strange to some of you but I have come to the conclusion that JKR just used another of her sneaky tricks on us and delibrately fooled us by using a word that has a very deep meaning and needs to be discussed thoroughly to be understood.
		Plato's idea of love was platonic coz he thought love to be pure, to be real love should be platonic, "mind love" if you might.
		The Lover's role is to, obviously, love his beloved and to become a teacher/mentor to the beloved.
	www.portkey.org /talk/index.php?showtopic=8774 (2543 words)

	Ageless Love - Platonic Love
		I believe a love may and often starts platonically, but well, I'm like you on that, I need the rest of the "stuff" to grow with the relationship.
		The conclusion was this: woman can be friends with a man and have no sexual desires and fantasies about him at all whereas men want to have sex with any woman if he spends enough time with her.
		Yes I have had platonic love with the opposite sex.
	www.agelesslove.com /boards/printthread.php?t=6740 (1292 words)

	kiad: "Platonic Love"
		naturalborn's comment and I couldn't figure out if it was a reference to platonic forms or platonic love.
		I was there during the Queen's Jubilee last summer, it was lovely.
		I took a horseback riding trip to tal y lyn, and shivered in thought of the grey king, and I mentioned the legend and St. Cadfan's church, and the locals were suprised a yank knew so much about their little town.
	kiad.livejournal.com /344686.html (807 words)

	PLATONIC LOVE - LoveToKnow Article on PLATONIC LOVE
		PLATONIC LOVE - LoveToKnow Article on PLATONIC LOVE
		The term in English goes back as far as Sir William Davenant's Platonic Lovers (1636).
		To properly cite this PLATONIC LOVE article in your work, copy the complete reference below:
	www.1911encyclopedia.org /P/PL/PLATONIC_LOVE.htm (110 words)

	The feeling of platonic love - Planetblaze.com Forums
		I told my female friend i loved her when i was pissed and she said she loved me to
		I love her dearly, but she'll always be my best friend.
		My flatmate said he loved me when he got back from holiday.
	www.planetblaze.com /forum/index.php?showtopic=8338 (1107 words)

	GRS 80: Platonic Love and Its Cultural Context (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-21)
		Members of the seminar will devote the first seven weeks of the winter term to a careful reading of Plato's treatment of erotic love in the Symposium and Phaedrus, together with secondary literature exploring the cultural and philosophical issues at stake in those works.
		In the last three weeks, each class member will select an ancient text or artifact which presents a viewpoint on erotic love and will study it either for its value as evidence of social interactions or for its encoded message as social comment.
		Results of this study will be presented both orally and in a written essay between 20 and 30 pages in length.
	www.dartmouth.edu /~grs80 (221 words)

	Juliet's Secret Diary - Women Issues - Snowballing in Love
		Shift your thinking to "they were just doing the best they could do at the time."
		If you find you are being critical of yourself, stop and take a moment to love and appreciate yourself.
		When you do this, watch how the situation softens and how you are able to bring yourself back into a more loving space.
	www.luvshades.com /womenfolk/merritt27.htm (514 words)

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