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	FM 34-52 Appendix H
		The decreased fear down approach is used primarily on a source who is already in a state of fear due to the horrible circumstances of his capture, or on a source who is in fear for his life.
		A problem with the pride and ego approach techniques is that since both variations rely on trickery, the source will eventually realize that he has been tricked and may refuse to cooperate further.
		One word of caution, the pride and ego down approach is also a dead end in that, if it is unsuccessful, it is very difficult for the interrogator to recover and move to another approach and reestablish a different type of rapport without losing all credibility.
	www.globalsecurity.org /intell/library/policy/army/fm/fm34-52/app-h.htm (4411 words)

	Humility and pride : humbling of the ego (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-09)
		The untethered ego will betray the spirit and imprison it in the context of the world, because the ego wants to be imprisoned there, for that is where it receives affirmation, which is the only thing the ego wants.
		Pride will run the spirit around and around as the donkey chases after the carrot, and the only way this will change is if you ask for the spankings which correct it.
		The ego is a wise and cunning sleuth, always creeping in and messing up a good thing, and so the overself, when called in to correct it, must take on the roll of the punishing parent and grief giver, if the wild child is to be reeled in.
	www.jackhaas.net /bookHumilityPrideEgoRedTide.htm (930 words)

	AIC: Earned Pride Versus Falso Ego (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-09)
		Claiming that the secretary «needs her ego deflated» is nothing more than an indication of an unprovoked assault by a cowardly psy-pesti who cannot earn any pride for himself.
		A psy-pesti's «ego» (such as many acadème who place more importance on the acquisition of a stupid piece of paper rather than developing a genuine intellect) is based on trying to belittle the worth of others...
		Their pride is «false» for their pride originates from the «victims» they harm and not from their own selves.
	aeius.us /2002/earned-pride-versus-false-ego.html (927 words)

	Discover how your pride and ego are your real problems with help from Kevin.
		Pride says you are the right instead of the truth that either your choices or your angels are responsible.
		Pride is the two sides of the one coin of ego balanced on one side.
		Pride is the cover for the fears of failure and rejection.
	www.kevinfitzmaurice.com /ego_pride_half.htm (1750 words)

	ALETHEUS: Pride & Ego (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-09)
		Pride is our recognition of our own self-worth and the ability to live fully without reservation, allowing our true nature to shine outward while not giving in to the ego's temptation to compare ourselves to others.
		In Buddhism, grasping after the self and the sense of ego is the chief of all cravings and the deepest root of ignorance.
		That is the twisting, the illness, not the ego.
	aletheus.blogspot.com /2005/07/pride-ego.html (1982 words)

	Re: Pride and Ego Kerry (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-09)
		That is, in the context of a team effort, not a mono vs. mono contest or an otherwise meaningless match to the team.
		This is entirely consistent with the long established rule that breaking down your cue is unsportsmanlike.
		I understand and respect those that have conceded a shot out of courtesy, however if they've disregarded the need of their team, that courtesy and respect is not only misguided, it is misdirected (wrong team/player[s]) Once again, thanks for your perspective and your willingness to view this with an open mind.
	www.southcoastapa.com /MsgBoard/_disc/0000031f.htm (230 words)

	Pilgrim's Pride Corp. (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-09)
		Pilgrim's pride logo Pilgrim's Pride Corp. is the second-largest poultry producer in the United States, headquartered in Pittsburg, Texas.
		Headed by company president O. Goolsby, Pilgrim's Pride had a minor outbreak of avian influenza in May 2004.
		Pilgrim's Pride is a supplier of Kentucky Fried Chicken and was named its "supplier of the year" in 1997.
	www.kiwipedia.com /en/pilgrim-s-pride.html (96 words)

	Ego / Pride (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-09)
		In ego they become dirty, and in ego they are washed clean.
		In ego they are ignorant, and in ego they are wise.
		This is the nature of ego, that people perform their actions in ego.
	www.esikhs.com /gur_quot/ego_pride.htm (704 words)

	Interrogation Techniques Revealed By the United States
		Another variation is to pour water down the thoat of the subject being careful not to drown the subject but to make the subject feel the sensation of drowning." http://www.campusprogram.com/reference/en/wikipedia/w/wa/water_cure.html.
		Pride and Ego Down: Attacking and insulting the ego of a detainee, not beyond the limits that would apply to a POW.
		S: Change of Scenery Down: Removing the Detainee from the standard interrogation setting and placing him in a setting that may be less comfortable; would not constitute a substantial change in environmental quality.
	lawofwar.org /interrogation_techniques.htm (7640 words)

	Shrink Rap: How to Know Ego From False Pride
		We also feel pride when complimented or recognized by others for a job well done or a particular personal characteristic that we are exhibiting.
		One way to know the difference between false pride and legitimate ego strength is by noticing the degree of defensiveness involved in our reaction to something or somebody.
		It makes room for all the egos of others and realizes that everyone is the center, the sun, of his or her own individual universe.
	www.thestreet.com /comment/shrinkrap/10038793.html (894 words)

	[No title] (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-09)
		Description: "Pride and ego up" involves flattering a detainee and tricking him into talking about the greatness of his military or terrorist organization.
		This approach typically works best on sources who have been looked down upon by giving them a chance to show they have brains or military acumen.
		"Pride and ego down" works in the opposite fashion.
	slate.msn.com /features/whatistorture/PrideEgo.html (105 words)

	Commander Approved Interrogations Violating Geneva Conventions: ACLU
		"Pride and Ego Down; attacking or insulting the ego of a detainee, not beyond the limits that would apply to an EPW (enemy prisoner of war)."
		The harsh interrogator might employ the Pride and Ego Down technique." It noted that other nations may view the technique as inconsistent with Geneva Convention protections against intimidation.
		Isolation "while still complying with basic standards of treatment." Use of isolation for more than 30 days must be "briefed" to the military intelligence brigade commander, it said.
	www.commondreams.org /headlines05/0330-09.htm (818 words)

	Body and Soul: Been in so long it looks like down to me (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-09)
		Pride and dignity down, appropriate for the children as well who, spending years with the government assuming such authority over them, must emerge from the system with some confused ideas of boundaries, what of themselves belongs to them and what belongs to the government.
		May 28, 2005 9:03:32 AM "Pride and ego down" is more appropriate than these geniuses realize.
		It is clearly the pride and ego of the US that has been annihilated by such actions, yet our administration and its minions are too busy high-fiving each other to notice that those they purport to humiliate have the lock on human dignity, as proven by the administration's own actions.
	bodyandsoul.typepad.com /blog/2005/05/not_guilty.html (7761 words)

	Body and Soul: May 2005 (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-09)
		"Pride and Ego Down" refers to methods used to intimidate and break the will of recalcitrant prisoners during interrogation.
		But just a reminder, while we're obsessing over whether a Koran was flushed down the toilet or in the toilet (if I hear one more right-wing chortle about industrial grade toilets I'm going to scream): We are robbing people of their basic human dignity and killing them with impunity.
		But don't get too concerned yet because "defence officials stress that everything remains on the drawing board until orders are issued by the president" and you know how careful he is when it comes to executions.
	bodyandsoul.typepad.com /blog/2005/05 (9457 words)

	CorpWatch : An Interrogator Speaks Out (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-09)
		"'Pride and Ego Down' is revealing that you know they were caught in an embarrassing situation," says Nelson.
		This technique might involve divulging knowledge that the subject was caught dressed in women's clothing to get across a checkpoint, or that he had failed to save the life of a colleague.
		More often that not, you use "Pride and Ego Up," because your subject is [already] shattered emotionally, so you build up their morale, say they've acted like a hero."
	www.corpwatch.org /article.php?id=11941 (1087 words)

	The Review - The Right Questions
		Sporting names like "Pride and Ego Down" and "Fear Up Harsh," these approaches aim to exploit a detainee's self-love, allegiance to or resentment of comrades, or sense of futility.
		These included "Pride and Ego Down" - attacking a detainee's pride to goad him into revealing critical information - as well as "Mutt and Jeff," the classic good cop-bad cop routine of countless police shows.
		Soldiers talked back to their superiors, refused to wear uniforms, operated prostitution and bootlegging rings, engaged in rampant and public sexual misbehaviour, covered the facilities with graffiti, and indulged in drinking binges while on duty.
	www.aijac.org.au /review/2005/30-2/essay302.htm (3798 words)

	Ego & Pride: Turning Point - Youth Ministries of Hilltop CommunityChurch (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-09)
		The problem with self-pride is that it is a distancing attitude (e.g., elitist, superior)…whereas pride in others (and not in YOUR ‘contribution’ to their greatness…smile) is a bonding attitude.
		For we write nothing else to you than what you read and understand, and I hope you will understand until the end; 14 just as you also partially did understand us, that we are your reason to be proud as you also are ours, in the day of our Lord Jesus.
		The pride of your heart has deceived you, you who live in the clefts of the rocks and make your home on the heights, you who say to yourself, ‘Who can bring me down to the ground?’ (Ob 3)
	www.hilltopcommunitychurch.com /youth/parents/ego.htm (1647 words)

	Muslim American Society
		Some techniques, including the use of dogs to instill fear, putting detainees in painful stress positions, and the use of strobe lights and loud music in interrogations, surfaced in later abuse cases.
		The memo also authorized techniques of isolation and sleep and food deprivation and sensory manipulation to break down prisoners.
		- "Pride and Ego Down; attacking or insulting the ego of a detainee, not beyond the limits that would apply to an EPW (enemy prisoner of war)."
	www.masnet.org /news.asp?id=2310 (1020 words)

	Discover quotations on how your pride and ego are your real problems.
		Discover quotations on how your pride and ego are your real problems.
		"Pride flees from the man who penetrates into the self as the light of a campfire before the rays of the sun."--Buddhist saying
		"Pride is the two sides of the one coin of ego balanced on one side."--Kevin Everett FitzMaurice
	www.kevinfitzmaurice.com /quote_pride.htm (1972 words)

	Roger L. Simon: Does Hamas go to my dentist?
		Two of the sworn statements (by US military personnel) in the Abu Ghraib investigation refer to an interrogation method called "Pride and Ego Down", which involves taking a copy of the Koran, throwing it to the ground and stamping on it.
		Not quite the same as flushing it down the toilet, but it's hard to argue that the thinking behind it was any different.
		Flushing down the toilet or tearing pages out of, the qu'ran, are not reasons to kill people.
	www.rogerlsimon.com /mt-archives/2005/05/does_hamas_go_t.php (1614 words)

	EGO: *THE INNOCENT* BY JACKSON CRAWFORD
		This American, this man, this Prometheus, who did not shrink from pronouncing the judgment of âevil,â who did not hesitate to defend himself, who did not worry over what his neighbors would think of his confidence, of his courage â“ this man who was unequivocally a human being and a lover of his own life.
		Severson reached down and picked up the AK-47 which one of his attackers had dropped, pointing it at the European.
		He walked around the room for a few minutes, a room which he noticed was actually very small, windowless, and not at all decorated like the mosque which the European had described it as being.
	egoist.blogspot.com /2004/06/innocent-by-jackson-crawford.html (2473 words)

	How to Interrogate Terrorists (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-09)
		These included “Pride and Ego Down”—attacking a detainee’s pride to goad him into revealing critical information—as well as “Mutt and Jeff,” the classic good cop—bad cop routine of countless police shows.
		Soldiers talked back to their superiors, refused to wear uniforms, operated prostitution and bootlegging rings, engaged in rampant and public sexual misbehavior, covered the facilities with graffiti, and indulged in drinking binges while on duty.
		Whether or not those two particular stressors are worth defending (and many interrogators say they are not), their abuse should not discredit the validity of other stress techniques that the military was cautiously experimenting with in the months before Abu Ghraib.
	www.frontpagemag.com /Articles/Printable.asp?ID=16572 (5119 words)

	Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		They wear the same uniform as us, and they let their fellow soldiers down...
		On May 8, 2004, The Guardian reported that, according to a former British special forces officer, the acts committed by the Abu Ghraib Prison military personnel resemble the techniques used in R2I training.
		The U.S. commander in charge of military jails in Iraq, Major General Geoffrey Miller, has confirmed that a battery of 50-odd special "coercive techniques" can be used against enemy detainees.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Abu_Ghraib_prisoner_abuse (6042 words)

	MitsuGallery v2.0 .:: vision watercolor ::.
		His duty very much in mind, he led the guest down the hall to the front parlour, where she entered with a flourish, not bothering to wait for Heero to announce her properly.
		He was back to looking intensely down at his notebook, watching the words nimbly dodge the distractions to land neatly on the page.
		He glared sharply at the owner, who was working his way down one wall of the kitchenette with the yard-long cloth tape stretched as far as it would go.
	www.niagara.com /~mobile7/mitsutemp/bridle/Bridle_009.php (4643 words)

	This Modern World by Tom Tomorrow: May 22, 2005 - May 28, 2005 Archives (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-09)
		Some of them are going to make it on our up or down vote and some of them won’t.
		Frist looked miserable in his concession speech, repeating the phrase “up or down vote” so many times he sounded like an eight-grader on stage at a speech club contest, lost in his own uncoupling rhetoric.
		And these are not near-death experiences, where someone on an operating-room table passes out and sees himself going down a long tunnel.
	www.thismodernworld.com /weblog/mtarchives/week_2005_05_22.html (6855 words)

	Whiskey Bar: The Friday Flush (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-09)
		Guantanamo apparently didn't even have flush toilets at the time the incident supposedly happened, and it's hard to see how something the size and solidity of a book could be flushed down one anyway -- not without causing an eruption of material closely resembling Donald Rumsfeld's moral character.
		The toilet story, though, bears enough resemblance to the documented facts to reinforce the suspicion that Quran abuse was an occasional component of the "Pride and Ego Down" interrogation approach -- maybe not an officially authorized component, but one winked at up and down the chain of command.
		Thus we have the statement (unearthed by the ACLU) of a trainer from the Army's intelligence school at Ft. Huachuca who says he described an actual case of Quran abuse to an Abu Ghraib interrogator -- supposedly as a way to "explain why these activities were prohibited or restricted."
	billmon.org /archives/001872.html (587 words)

	NYU Stern (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-09)
		As MandA simmered down in recent years, the firm focused more on "high yield," advising parties involved in bankruptcies like Worldcom and U.S. Airways.
		"There are several issues—one is pride and ego and whatever," said the former Lazard partner.
		Despite the clash of egos playing out at the top, those in the industry say it might not be a terrible time to go public, although there is significant skepticism that Mr.
	w4.stern.nyu.edu /news/news.cfm?doc_id=3152 (1870 words)

	Documents Tell of Brutal Improvisation by GIs
		The sleeping-bag interrogation and beatings were taking place in Qaim about the same time that soldiers at Abu Ghraib, outside Baghdad, were using dogs to intimidate detainees, putting women's underwear on their heads, forcing them to strip in front of female soldiers and attaching at least one to a leash.
		It was a time when U.S. interrogators were coming up with their own tactics to get detainees to talk, many of which they considered logical interpretations of broad-brush categories in the Army Field Manual, with labels such as "fear up" or "pride and ego down" or "futility."
		Soldiers heard Mowhoush "being beaten with a hard object" and heard him "screaming" from down the hall, according to the Jan. 18, 2004, provost marshal's report.
	www.washingtonpost.com /wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/02/AR2005080201941_pf.html (2375 words)

	The Iraq prisoner abuse scandal widens - PRAVDA.Ru (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-09)
		Because honor is very important in the Islamic culture, it is culturally offensive for the Iraqi men to have been naked in front of a woman guard, as was shown in some of the pictures from the Abu Ghraib prison.
		Chaiken said they were taught this is called "P and E Down," or pride and ego down.
		"When you say something down the chain of command like, 'The Geneva Conventions don't apply,' that sets the stage for the kind of chaos that we've seen," said Rear Admiral John Hutson (ret.), who was the Navy Judge Advocate General from 1997 to 2000.
	english.pravda.ru /world/20/91/368/13696_prisoners.html (2114 words)

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